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[quote=”Radioactiveman
A decision on John Murphy’s application for the Huguenot graveyard on Carey’s Lane has been delayed until 27th of July. [/QUOTE”]If its allowed then it needs a really sensitive design around it. Not a hint about Water street either?
mickeydocs wrote:TGV’s sold all over the worldQuote:alright, even though IRish Rail are one of my pet hates, lets talk about more important matters and keep this site to Corks Development like when Water St will get planning and how CSD even dream of fielding a candidate for the Dail based on buildings that should be lower than 3 stories. Had a look at their website and in fairness, they do have to put up with utter soul-less drivel (personal opinion) like the giant yellow brick from the ’70’s that is Victoria Cross but I completely disagree with CSD standpoint. Cork has great quays and could do 4/5 stories with 15 storey gateways like North Gate and South Gate etc.@mhenness wrote:
Did you not hear about the service upgrade to hourly trains between Cork and Dublin and also the new rolling stock that Irish Rail will be introducing? Sure, it still won’t be to continental standards but it should be a welcome improvement and hopefully an indicator of things to come?
Rolling stock? more like laughing stock. Carriages were due to be rolled out in Dec 05 – now it appears there may be ONE of the new trains MAYBE next month. Irish Rail should be privatised. Its the only way the company will work
councillors who object to high rise are disgrace – works perfectly well for other european cities e.g. amsterdam, berlin look fab at only 4-5 storeys high.
Cork is laden with potential and its being squandered – all those roads being built are great but at least 10 years behind the times – Kinsale bypass is being completed years late and they will tell us it came in on time and under budget – the roads will be complete just in time for them to realise that light rail needs to be put in.
being a non construction type person, Anyone see that steel sort of cage thing on the new glass city hall? presume thats there to hold the glass in place while they do something to it? surely wont be left there??
wow! cant believe they refused. Must only allow a developer one project at a time. The traffic in fairness would have been a bit much in the mornings. Even next to a major road.
again fair enough dkebab – what would you have loved though out of curiousity? as for looking out on important landmarks Crawford Art gallery design to me is redbriak boring and the Opera House is awful apart from a glass front – the inside needs a complete revamp and a giant concrete wall facing on to the quays aint exactly an important landmark.
Still dont agree about Patrick St and ambience – the ambience is created becuase cork is smaller than dublin and there are fewer people so there is room to walk around. Just in my own opinion i think it was completely politic stunt.
As for Dublin getting Docklands station by 2007, what else do you expect? they can build the Kinsale Overpass quickly when they need to, they can finish off the Ballincollig bypass almost on time (I dont believe a word that it was completed 6 months early) but they cant seem to rebuild a cork railway station that resembles a Victorian Barn – I mean part of the planning application is heating. That says everything.
re your opinion dkebab, thats fiar enough everyone is entitled to one but the Cork planners have no comebacks re granting permission to developments – looks arent part of their criteria it seems – the general consensus on Victoria Cross is that its hideous so no planner can ever come back and shoot down a building becuase of its looks. Plus its OCP that have spent a copule of hundred million (which of course they will recoup in spades) but its still their money so when we all have that amount of money we can build what we like.
I think its great for Cork and about time, we are years behind the rest of europe. All we need now is some vestige of a transport network. As for Patrick St getting best shopping street – I know they actually got it but that must have been a pure political thing – there isnt a hope that its the best in the country, sorry. Someone is trying to say Pana beats Grafton St and Henry St? nope. And a central shopping street getting ‘Best NEIGHBOURHOOD??’ – that says it all
Article in the Examiner today that the triangle on the river where the Cork Bonded Warehouses are has been cleared for sale after a legal challenge was dismissed – I thought OCP had bought this anyway? I know Lex reported it somewhere in this thread already
i’m with jdivision on that one, Emmet st side of the devt looks great, upper levels on Patrick St side are a bit too blocky and hopefully wont be cream/magnolia type colouring, could they not just bring the curve down on that side as well?
it really is exciting to see Cork and its quays starting to develop, not far from academy st will be Precincts block across the water, next to Paul Kennys Treasury building, , right opposite then will be the ‘flatiron’ Oyster devts next to the bus station, bounce back aross the river and Kent station will be brand new next to the brand new conference/event centre at Horgans Quay, just after will be the Water Street buildings with the Grangefield development across the water, just next to the redeveloped Pairc Ui Caoimh / Showgrounds
any architects out there with ability to do a quick map or photo of those developments if all built, could be an interesting exercise!
theblimp wrote:Tom McCarthy KingsleyQuote:I thought it was that Tom MCCarthy as well. Its would be great to see a hotel there and presumably you could stay and walk out the front lobby to Sth Mall, while passing Jacobs restaurant on the way, which I would think they will incorporate into the hotel.my contacts in the building trade tell me that those 2 parcels of land up by the airport went on sale yesterday – one of those parcels is residential so they will be the only houses right next to the main road – a solr bought the land in trust but if anyone hears who bought it out of curiousity, let us know
PS – as per the Examiner a Dublin estate agent bought the parcel of land zoned light industrial and the residential parcel buyer again as per The Examiner is rumoured to be O Brien O FLynn
@Maskhadov wrote:
what is the appeal for ? the apartments look good to me
the appeal seems to be to keep the site in the state it is now – why dont these people just fly to Berlin where you can have relatively small 3/4 story buildings that look magnificent.
@Radioactiveman wrote:
South Main Street. This is the oldest street in Cork City and at the moment is in a terrible condition – particularly at its southern end.
I think this is in the hands of Paul Kenny as well isnt it? if so I am sure he will be slightly busy with Patricks Quay for a while!
if a citys development and potential for decently designed buildings is decreed to by how good the fire brigade are, its time to give up.
I was crawling along traffic yesterday on the ring road in Limerick and got to look at the Quays where the Clarion hotel and the docks road has a lot of new developments – it looked pretty impressive to be fair – Cork could do with taking an example and improving on it!
ah wilkommen back lex my man(or woman), a veritable diatribe of property info there to amuse us – no doubt posting up here was starting to be a full time job! even if you have a short time left, keep us informed until the bitter end.
the transport network in cork is a complete and utter disgrace. if its true that councillors sniggered at the a “light rail system” we should all despair – please let us stop electing these people. Coming from Carrigaline it is easier for me to get to work by NOT using the kinsale roundabout and drive through all the suburbs, there is no buses after 11.15pm which is an utter disgrace, the green route from grange is a joke as it restricted all the traffic coming from douglas causing MORE congestion, at grange cross they are just about to finish roadworks that will just about bring the traffic to the situation it was (i.e. crap) BEFORE they built a very large and pointless wall and they had to buy land to do it (i.e. waste of time and money) – A light rail is a NECESSITY from Cork to Ballincollig, Blackpool, Glanmire, Douglas/Carrigaline, Grange/Airport and at the four gateways to the city there should be a hub to link up to Intercity buses / possibly trains.
we are light years behind and with the cost of having to buy out a toll bridge in dublin which provides nothing to the rest of the country, we are likely to remain there. 😡
all, did you note that where all the work is being done on the former Guys premises in Cornmarket St, that the digging has apparently resulted in residents in the area being relocated due to safety fears? (I am reduced to the Evening Echo as a source becuase Lex has absconded – whew! I am backed up by the Examiner).
Come back Lex, all is forgiven
bunch wrote:that unity house development on alfred st/lwr glanmire road is awful –QUOTE]
beats the decrepit garage that was sitting there rotting though!
any word on our OPW / Revenue friends and the blackpool site that seems to have beaten the pack? surely the Kenny or Goldcrop site would be more accessible to train station, Kenny site being literally around the corner and goldcrop site would have been so accessible if a footbridge ever goes from docklands to horgans quay? – having said that, the assumption raod site isnt miles away either.
