developments in cork
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- March 6, 2006 at 3:19 pm #759093
POM
Participant@jdivision wrote:
They made e27.5 million. AMV was e15m
That’ll make for some new retirement home out in Mahon!!!
March 6, 2006 at 4:05 pm #759094Radioactiveman
ParticipantThe South Infirmary/Victoria Hospital have been given permission to demolish the existing two-storey showroom and warehouses at Infirmary Road and to erect a new cancer screening facility for ‘Breastcheck’, comprising four full storeys of accommodation and partial fifth storey containing plant, the extension of the public footpath from the eastern side of Infirmary Road along the southern side of Hibernian Road to form a paved pedestrian space with steps and ramp giving access to the main entrance to the building on Infirmary Road and vehicular drop-off on Hibernian Road, and the construction of a temporary garden bounded by walls and railings facing Infirmary Road.
“Contemporary in design, the proposed finishes include brick, aluminum framed windows, metal louvre panels and metal balustrades.”
–Murray O Laoire Site Strategy Study of the future Breastcheck site (bottom left hand corner).March 6, 2006 at 8:53 pm #759095lexington
Participant*UPDATES*
🙂 Developers Tom and Michelle McCarthy are devising plans to convert their Jacob’s Mill development to use as a luxury 5-star 35-bedroom boutique hotel. The former mill has lain idle along Father Matthew Quay for almost 45-years and is currently being rejuvenated by contractors O’Flynn of Banteer on Mr. McCarthy’s behalf. The refurbishment design is being handled by Murray O’Laoire Architects with G+A Architects handling interior designs. The redevelopment was originally scheduled to accommodate apartment usage, however a subsequent application will seek a change of use to hotel operations – and the conversion of plans to accommodate 35 bedrooms. It is believed the 20 space parking structure will be retained. The hotel is earmarked to be titled ‘Jacob’s Country House Hotel’.
😎 Fleming Construction are expected to lodge their plans for the former Nemo Rangers Football Grounds (GAA) along the South Douglas Road early next week. Fleming Construction, who acquired the site in a part land-swap deal, intend to develop a high-end residential development of 102 units with 82 terrace, detached and semi-detached houses accompanying 20 new duplexes. Access to the new scheme is expected to be accommodated from the Douglas Road which will require the demolition of 2 existing road-frontage dwellings.
*UPDATES*🙂 Cork City Council have today announced their formal intention to seek offers on the development of a new Central Library. CCC are seeking a new premises ideally along or near Grand Parade, but will be open to any offers which deem worthy. A new 5,000sq m library premises of landmark design is sought to serve the city into the 21st century – it may form part of a broader mixed development or as a stand alone structure to be provided by the successful bidding developer. As part of the transaction, the existing Central Library premises on Grand Parade may form part exchange – given the prime city centre location, it is unlikely many will argue such an exchange. Should the library form part of a development on the existing Central Library site, the developer will be obliged to provide temporary accommodation for the facility in an accessible location.
– the formal invitation by CCC provides Grand Parade with yet another major potential redevelopment opportunity. One would have to consider possible moves by established interests in the area such as Paul Kenny (The Kenny Group), Frinailla and others. The opportunity exists to offer a major mixed-use development in a location second to none. Given the nature of the scheme, should it include the central library on site, and its prominent location, a real opportunity exists now for a scheme of statement architecture which lends itself to the importance of the street on which it resides as well as adding another important structural landmark. Potential for a major retail, leisure, commercial and residential quarter could exist given the ripe redevelopment potential of many adjoining and surrounding buildings abutting the Central Library on Grand Parade and to the rear along South Main Street. Of course, development on that scale would demand attention to the many unique and protected structures that adjoin the site, but this should in no way damper imaginative opportunities.
🙂 The South Infirmary-Victoria Hospital (SIVH) along South Terrace has been granted permission for the provision of its much needed BreastCheck facility on the former Irish International Trading Corp. site at 5D – 5F Infirmary Road. The 4, part 5-storey structure was designed by appointed agents for the national BreastCheck roll-out, Cullen Payne Architects. The scheme is not likely to come on-stream until mid-to-late 2007 at the earliest, however the grant represents a significant step in the facilitiy’s provision. 3 submissions were lodged regarding the application, including 1 from An Taisce and 2 adjoining property owners. The design of the rectangular structure has been generally welcomed, and arranged in such a way so as to accommodate future expansion at the SIVH. It is understood private parties are currently involved arranging a possible prospective healthcare development at the hospital.
😎 Cork City Council today have launched notice of their formulation of a Bishopstown-Wilton Area Action Plan. The plan will be open for public consultation at Wilton Shopping Centre on Tuesday 14th March between 3 p.m. – 8 p.m. and Wednesday 15th March between 3 p.m. – 8 p.m.
March 6, 2006 at 9:25 pm #759096kite
Participant😎 Cork City Council today have launched notice of their formulation of a Bishopstown-Wilton Area Action Plan. The plan will be open for public consultation at Wilton Shopping Centre on Tuesday 14th March between 3 p.m. – 8 p.m. and Wednesday 15th March between 3 p.m. – 8 p.m.[/QUOTE]
:confused: Is this a good or bad idea?, does this mean that the CSD group are now getting a payoff in the way of an action plan for Bishopstown? Is all the bull and cribbing about development that this crowd but out out over the past few years now paying off?
March 6, 2006 at 9:52 pm #759097POM
Participant@kite wrote:
:confused: Is this a good or bad idea?, does this mean that the CSD group are now getting a payoff in the way of an action plan for Bishopstown? Is all the bull and cribbing about development that this crowd but out out over the past few years now paying off?
Not really. Blackrock had an action plan for its harbour. Blackpool had one too. I don’t see any harm in an action plan, its formulation isn’t a blueprint according to lobbyists. The plan will be assessing sectors of the Bishopstown area and devising the best framework for each.
March 6, 2006 at 10:10 pm #759098kite
Participant@POM wrote:
Not really. Blackrock had an action plan for its harbour. Blackpool had one too. I don’t see any harm in an action plan, its formulation isn’t a blueprint according to lobbyists. The plan will be assessing sectors of the Bishopstown area and devising the best framework for each.
No city councilor in Blackrock or Blackpool as far as i am aware has called for a TOTAL ban on major developments in their area like Mary Shields FF (Bishopstown) has until the area plan is in place..brought about no doubt by the CSD and the unfair pressure the put on councilors of their area by the website they set up?, see what you think yourself, they can be found on http://www.corksouthwest.com
Update 7-3-06: on this matter the IE have an article in todays paper http://www.irishexaminer.com/pport/web/ireland/Full_Story/did-sgXymJGTRSdVUsglO-LCk0lQvU.asp
March 7, 2006 at 1:05 am #759099who_me
Participant@PTB wrote:
Sometimes I think that tis a bit of a pity that the waterways were filled in because it would be incredible to live in a city like Venice. Although that would have is own drawbacks. A Patricks street filled with water would make shopping difficult. And I hear that Venice has odour problems and is slowly sinking. But it would look incredible.
I’ve often thought the same. Previously, it would have been unthinkable, but with the increasing pedestrianisation of the city centre, it’d be wonderful to see wouldn’t it?
Ok, perhaps not if the water quality is as in the photo above, but still…;)
March 7, 2006 at 11:04 am #759100browser
ParticipantThis was put back to March as I recall. Any news?
March 7, 2006 at 11:41 am #759101theblimp
ParticipantLex – in relation to the Fr. Matthew Quay development, are you sure that the Tom McCarthy involved isn’t the ‘Kingsley Hotel’ Tom McCarthy as against the ‘McCarthy Developments’ Tom McCarthy? This one is always a bit confusing, but I think the ‘Kingsley Tom’ has the Jacobs on the Mall restuarant to the back of this proposed development – which might explain part of the proposed name. However the other Tom also has some hospitality experience having owned and run Blackrock Castle for a few years
BTW – ‘Jacobs Country House Hotel’ – how come the middle 2 words there look completely out of place to me !
March 7, 2006 at 12:47 pm #759102Pug
Participanttheblimp wrote:Tom McCarthy KingsleyQuote:I thought it was that Tom MCCarthy as well. Its would be great to see a hotel there and presumably you could stay and walk out the front lobby to Sth Mall, while passing Jacobs restaurant on the way, which I would think they will incorporate into the hotel.March 7, 2006 at 1:14 pm #759103tomthevet2003
ParticipantAny news on the Academy Street development? I thought planning was to applied for by now.
March 7, 2006 at 3:08 pm #759104jdivision
ParticipantPlanning for Academy St is going in tomorrow. I’ve seen the images – It’s lots of glass to the Emmet Place elevation. i’m sure people will have concerns over scaling but I like it. The changes to Faulkners Lane will be positive. There’s a stacked shell type structure planned for the Academy Street, Emmet St end.
March 7, 2006 at 3:14 pm #759105jdivision
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This is the Metropole planMarch 7, 2006 at 4:51 pm #759106lexington
Participant@jdivision wrote:
Planning for Academy St is going in tomorrow. I’ve seen the images – It’s lots of glass to the Emmet Place elevation. i’m sure people will have concerns over scaling but I like it. The changes to Faulkners Lane will be positive. There’s a stacked shell type structure planned for the Academy Street, Emmet St end.
That was to be my ‘exciting’ news! :p
@lexington wrote:
Re: The ‘exciting news’ pre-weekend, I understand the proposal is imminent but has been offset by a few days since the weekend.
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@browser wrote:This was put back to March as I recall. Any news?
The ABP decision date was put back to March 26th 2006. Revised plans on the scheme will be up for evaluation.
March 7, 2006 at 6:02 pm #759107jdivision
Participant@jdivision wrote:
Planning for Academy St is going in tomorrow. I’ve seen the images – It’s lots of glass to the Emmet Place elevation. i’m sure people will have concerns over scaling but I like it. The changes to Faulkners Lane will be positive. There’s a stacked shell type structure planned for the Academy Street, Emmet St end.
Having said that, I think the copper cladding doesn’t look great on the Academy St element. Might have been better to continue the grey of the shell down to that level.
March 7, 2006 at 8:56 pm #759108POM
Participant@kite wrote:
No city councilor in Blackrock or Blackpool as far as i am aware has called for a TOTAL ban on major developments in their area like Mary Shields FF (Bishopstown) has until the area plan is in place..brought about no doubt by the CSD and the unfair pressure the put on councilors of their area by the website they set up?
Update 7-3-06: on this matter the IE have an article in todays paper http://www.irishexaminer.com/pport/web/ireland/Full_Story/did-sgXymJGTRSdVUsglO-LCk0lQvU.asp
I was sitting in traffic today at Victoria Cross (surprise surprise) and looked over at those architectural ambominations rising up on the south side of the junction. It struck me that the city council cause more grief for themselves by granting these half hearted renditions. The extension to Victoria Mills is finished with the mostly dire coat of brown brick. Perhaps the idea was to cause variation in the building line but instead it utterly clashes. It would have been even somewhat less destructive were it to maintain the material finish of the first phase of the student development. What gets me is that by allowing this kind of junk go up it is only giving groups like that CSD crowd fuel for their fire and subsequently they go on the rampage which puts genuinely good designs like that at Victoria Cross and Dennehy’s Cross in the red. The council then have to deal with opportunist councillors riding the wave of ‘disapproval’ and create more grief for themselves in the long run…when all they had to do in the beginning was demand better. Yeah yeah yeah Victoria Mills may be good structurally and all that, I get it, but it is a faceless brick all the same. And its extension is worse. Its as if the architect sought to diminish the impact of the first section by devising a ghastlier addition to take away the attention. A 9 storey building is fine for the Victoria Mills location but it comes down to the design. Maybe the council, who as far as I know indicated their preference for the original Victoria Mills design, should revise their concept of good design. Bertie Pope’s design for Flemings next door isn’t all that better. Its a pity the good development like those proposed by Frinilla and that one across the road from Dennehys Cross are jeporadised by the mistakes of others and give lobbyists something to lobby about. Secretly they must be delighted.
March 7, 2006 at 9:33 pm #759109kite
Participant@POM wrote:
I was sitting in traffic today at Victoria Cross (surprise surprise) and looked over at those architectural ambominations rising up on the south side of the junction. It struck me that the city council cause more grief for themselves by granting these half hearted renditions. The extension to Victoria Mills is finished with the mostly dire coat of brown brick. Perhaps the idea was to cause variation in the building line but instead it utterly clashes. It would have been even somewhat less destructive were it to maintain the material finish of the first phase of the student development. What gets me is that by allowing this kind of junk go up it is only giving groups like that CSD crowd fuel for their fire and subsequently they go on the rampage which puts genuinely good designs like that at Victoria Cross and Dennehy’s Cross in the red. The council then have to deal with opportunist councillors riding the wave of ‘disapproval’ and create more grief for themselves in the long run…when all they had to do in the beginning was demand better. Yeah yeah yeah Victoria Mills may be good structurally and all that, I get it, but it is a faceless brick all the same. And its extension is worse. Its as if the architect sought to diminish the impact of the first section by devising a ghastlier addition to take away the attention. A 9 storey building is fine for the Victoria Mills location but it comes down to the design. Maybe the council, who as far as I know indicated their preference for the original Victoria Mills design, should revise their concept of good design. Bertie Pope’s design for Flemings next door isn’t all that better. Its a pity the good development like those proposed by Frinilla and that one across the road from Dennehys Cross are jeporadised by the mistakes of others and give lobbyists something to lobby about. Secretly they must be delighted.
😮 ABSOLUTELY right in everything you say POM, and for Architects to give VM an award is an insult to all, like you said CSD must be delighted.
March 8, 2006 at 8:10 am #759110lexington
Participant😀 Staff at 21 Lavitts Quay were working after hours tonight in advance of O’Callaghan Properties highly anticipated Academy Street project. After some delay, the scheme is now headed to Navigation House where it will seek approval from planners – hoping to provide a prominent rejuvenation to an ambitiously assembled site right in the heart of Cork city centre.
Ambrose Kelly’s Project Architects, in conjunction with Gehl Urban Design Consultants (Denmark), have been working and reworking the landmark scheme which will be divided over 2 blocks ranging in heights of between 4 (including mezzanine) and 9-storeys with a replenished and widened Faulkner’s Lane (now proposed at up to 8 metres in width) running between them – the lane, long (and disappointingly) left uncared for is currently in varying states of dereliction, it will now form a pedestrian friendly open-plan retail street with self-contained 2-storey over basement retail buildings (with residential units overhead). This is but one feature of the broader scheme which will encompass features which include 19 large comparison goods retail units (ranging in sizes of between 8,000sq ft and 25,000sq ft) and 91 new apartments. The gross retail area of the project will equal 17,923sq m with a net retail area of 10,971sq m (excluding mezzanine levels) – the 19 units will be located across the basement, ground floor, first floor and first floor mezzanine levels. The residential units will comprise of 17x 1-bedroom units, 54x 2-bedroom units, 15x 3-bedroom units and 5x duplex units – 2 gyms will also be included in the scheme. Demolition works include the removal of upper floor levels at the Sasha store on St. Patrick’s Street, the demolition of the former Ryan’s Pharmacy on St. Patrick’s Street and the provision of a new entrance at this location. Demolition of the Jean Scene building and a newly reconstructed facade will also be undertaken at Patrick’s Street. Facades at 1-6 Academy Street, 7 Academy Street & 8 Academy Street will be retained along with the AA offices at Emmet Place – further retentions are also included. 96 basement car-parking spaces are to be included for exclusive residential occupant use.
The €150m scheme utilises extensive glazing, particularly at the Emmet Place elevation, as well as notable copper cladded elements. A feature most notable along the Academy Street/Emmet Place elevations is the stacking of shell-like zinc cascades.
The bulk of the assembled 0.56 hectare Academy Street site (with total acquisition values estimated at between €85m and €100m) comprises of the soon-to-be former Irish Examiner offices and printing press. The building extends to 1,765sq m at ground floor level, with a further 1,022 sq m overhead at 1st floor level (+ printing press spaces), and was acquired by O’Callaghan Properties (OCP) in 2004 for an estimated €30m. Part of the deal included a site exchange feature which saw Thomas Crosbie Holdings (publishers of the Irish Examiner) acquire a site at O’Callaghan Properties’ Mahon Point scheme – this site was subsequently developed on lease from TCH by WebPrint Concepts as a new printing press facility (which now produces all TCH titles bar the UK-based Irish Post). Following this acquisition, OCP proceeded to purchased the former Johnson & Perrott showrooms at Emmet Place – in another similar land exhange deal, the Grand Circle Lounge (for a value believed to be in and around €1.2m), Taboo alternative bar, 97 St. Patrick’s Street and buildings along St. Patrick’s Street to the front of the section of Le Chateau bar extending onto Faulkner’s Lane. The block area had been identified for higher-order retail development by Cork City Council as part of its city centre retail strategy.
Agents for the scheme include Project Architects & Gehl Urban Design Consultants (Design), Niall Fitzsimons & Co. (Consulting Engineers), Chris Southgate (Conservation Engineer), Bowen Construction (expected Main Contractors) and Hamilton Osbourne King (Commercial and Retail Advisors).
With this scheme now destined to the throws of planning, attention will undoubtedly focus on the next big retail schemes earmarked for the city centre – including that of investor Joe O’Donovan and his assembled site linking St. Patrick’s Street to Grand Parade – which includes the former Capitol Cineplex, Central Shoe Stores and 50 St. Patrick’s Street.
March 8, 2006 at 10:42 am #759111Saucy Jack
ParticipantIts not dissimilar in finishes,scale,massing,materials mix to their Lavitts Quay development and the apartment block at 9 stories is probably too high for the city centre core area. However overall this project must be welcomed as a massive boost to Cork city business and shopping re-inforcing Cork as the premier shopping destination outside Dublin.
The new Faulkeners lane pedestrianised is great however Academy St.Drawbridge St. leading to the Quays must be pedestrianised also.March 8, 2006 at 12:02 pm #759112PTB
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This is the Metropole planDoes anyone feel that the development would be better without that tower in the center of the building. It looks very out of place. Firstly it looks too short and it also is too slender on top of the bulky building beneath. I’m not too fond of the colour either. It reminds me of that building across from the Opera House – Camden Quay? – thats in red brick which looks quite dull.
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