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Radioactiveman, at the risk of sounding pedantic, I dont for a second believe that 90% statistic . And why in gods name would European transport ministers care a jot about our bus station?? presumably they have more to worry about.
alright , it is indeed the end of this argument, you have just stated and repeated my ORIGINAL point that there be SHUTTLE BUSES to the city centre if the bus station were to be located in some place like Horgans Quay. The bus station should be in a central point in the city with integrated transport services around it i.e. that the train/bus station should be located TOGETHER.
For people who get to Cork by plane, there should be a regular SHUTTLE BUS to the city centre where they could get other trains/buses.
At the end of the day, this argument is irrelevant as your point that CIE will muck around and do precisely nothing with Horgans Quay is fair. Cork is treated like dirt by Dublin cue Martin Cullens recent confirmation that after spending â‚¬140m on corks new airport terminal, the cost over runs were so much that there will now be NO air bridges i.e. the terminal will be nice but you will still have to walk out into the lashing risking decapitation by an aircraft propellor. Unbelieavable.:p
the plans for the An Post site are now some of the most interesting in Cork.
spot on there jungle, the An post site would have been mental. If they do that tower right and previous pictures of the plans on this site look like they might, I think it will be brilliant to have that size of a tower there.
🙂 2 prominent Esso Stations (as part of a property reorganisation strategy) at Muskerry Service Station (Wester Road) and Bishopstown – both operated by the same owners.
sorry to doubt you lex, but i thought it was the muskerry and dunmahon station(douglas) that were being sold. :confused:Radioactiveman wrote:It is an essential public service which should remainn where 90% of the users actually requested it stay. QUOTE]
Fair enough. I actually dont recall the public survey where the people of Cork were asked their opinion by CIE. My point is that if there were shuttle buses departing the city centre regularly, then it wouldnt matter if the bus station was in horgans quay. The entire transport for the city should be there, you should be able to get off a train in Cork and immediately step onto a bus to East or west cork or the airport or city centre with an integrated ticket system. It’s CIE missing out on the small but obvious things like being able to get a single intercity ticket for slightly over half the price of a return ticket, not the same price as a full. CIE is a shambles.
Obviously PUG doesnt get the bus very often. Its completely out of the question to ask people to walk to Horgan’s Quay to get a bus to Dublin.
Radioactiveman, the uranium must have melted your eyes as you will see that I wrote about LITTLE SHUTTLE BUSES THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO AND FROM THE CITY CENTRE. And bunch makes the point even further, we all walk to the bloody train station.
I was really taking a pop at CIE for that one, they are an absolute shambles of an organisation, and are obviously running the FAI in their spare time. They are a highly unionised ineffective inefficent ultra orthodox organisation who in any other country would have had their management fired long ago for the inept serivce they provide for hilariously expensive prices.
Lex, this is why I was asking were Murnanes doing a business park up by the airport, I believe they have applied for an Airport Logistic Business Park with office, warehousing, commercial units at Farmers Cross 😉
From those images, the Glucksman Gallery looks like a treehouse! yes, yes I can hear your tut tuts from here. Will wander along someday and check it out a bit closer!
re the bus station, the only addition was the canopys and a bit of painting. I think they havent added to it much and personally would have moved the station to Horgans Quay and put those small little buses as shuttles from the city centre. Such a prime site with a waste of a bus station on it. I dont know if the procedure has changed but certainly it was the worst station layout I have ever come across i.e. when the buses pull out into oncoming traffic to try and back in to a space! And CIE not bothering with Horgans Quay? CPO the sods all the way.
I think apart from the new front, the Opera House is awful, a giant dilapidated brick, both inside and out.
Certainly, the opposite side of the quay to Merchants Quay needs a facelift.
Nice buildings? Clarion adds a bit, 5&6 Lapps Quay, Connolly Hall isnt bad in fairness.
Personally cant wait for the docklands, fingers crossed they get it right and put in nice designs but the vibe certainly seems to be going that way. The high rise as well will be good for Cork. Rock on O Flynns 17 storey tower.
[ I amazingly have found common ground with An Taisce, regarding the Ellesmere Properties (Howard Holdings) Lavitts Quay hotel proposal – [/QUOTE]
is there pictures available of the design? I know the pictures of the previous office that was to be on Lavitts Quay were on this website but is it radically changed from that? :confused:
Laois councillors back development plan – RTE
07 February 2005 22:00
The Fine Gael-led County Council in Laois has voted through a controversial Draft County Development Plan ]
surely that should read DAFT County Development Plan – someones making money out of this
did i see that Murnanes had planning in for a new business park up by the airport? any more info on that?
Has anyone heard of the possibility of a rail connection between Cork and Belfast, and Cork – Sligo???
jaysus, they cant manage the cork-dublin one, let alone any new ones….
thanks Lex,and redabbeyredux that is VERY much appreciated – I am sure no one will take it as an advertising banner, in fact, given that its a forum, anyone else is more than welcome to give me their input/suggestions if they are not on the list above! 🙂 Thanks again.
sorry Lex, could I trouble you again for your exoert opinion on a list of decent architects of commercial/retail type space? I think you posted it but it seems to have hopped off the website somewhere. Would really appreciate it, cheers 😎
and senator joe o toole denies all involvement of knowledge in the deal even though the farmer benfitting from it is his brother in law and senator joe o tooles back garden backs on to the land apparently. Seemingly the Department approached the farmer out of the blue….lexington wrote:Well what are you looking for? Design oriented? Or just slabs? ]
what about your top ten then? as for slabs or design , suspect its a bit of both, client I have will explain what they need, architect will design a nice building and go back to client, client will recoil in horror at cost and after a bit of to-ing and fro-ing all will be happy!! Seriously, your opinion on the top ten would be appreciated Lex. I’ll get back to you on the contact names, this thing I have is just kicking off so i’d like to see what other stuff the architects on the list have done before I go meet people. Thanks a mill for the offer though. 😎
quick ques fro you lot out there, could someone list me the top CORK architects? being creative people i know thats very subjective but I was looking for those who say do commercial/retail property, maybe residential as well, couple of projects I might need help on. Thanks a mill. 😎
air bridges sacrificed? thats nuts. perhaps if the costs wee closely examined, perhaps those huge beams that they used may not have to be used after all. That project is spiralling out of control at the airport which usually means someone is making money!
as for CIE, the chairman apparently wants to concentrate on passenger development but this musnt include the cork to dublin service which is a disgrace to humanity.
anyway, good to see another of the docklands sites at monahan road and the doyles warehouse at albert quay going under the hammer. :rolleyes:
dont think anyone will disagree with you about Horgans Quay, why they made an announcement about the 25m kent station and not say anything about horgans quay is ridiculous. I mean, if they are going to the trouble of changing the station around to front on to the quay and then not bother to sort out the rest, its just plain silly. Someone cynical like myself would wonder why a semi state has such power and are the unions causing grief, again.
The photo of the previous design anyway didnt look great to me to be honest, the high rise would surely be more vibrant if its not just a rown of tall buildings.
fingers crossed. 😎
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Any info or drawings on Clayton Loves plans for Carrigaline Town Centre? I know they are doing Douglas as well, any time line on either of them as to when they will be done?
(this is purely selfish reasons, I just bought a house there and am looking to find out what developments are happening apart from Brideviews apartments near the Cogan garage!!)
:rolleyes:hi there is there anyone who can tell me where i can find out detailed info on kent station for a modelling project ie dimensions, photos and history.thanks
Have a look in another thread called ‘Look at de state of Cork like’, do a search, I’m sure I saw it in there somewhere filed by a submitter called Lexington