developments in cork
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- December 20, 2005 at 5:35 am #758733
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Participant@James Furlong wrote:
Hello all. I will shortly be seeking to appoint an architect for a small site of mine in the city area. From what I have seen of this place it seems like a good place to ask some professional opinion as you all seem so well informed. Any recommendations for a good architect and planner for a medium infill building design. I would like to think that we can provide an imaginative design to the site and would be thankful for any opinions.
James Furlong
thats kinda broad. what are you looking at residential office pub. what you mean by good architect?? shouldnt you be asking what you want to achieve and then find an architect best suited? as for planners theres mcutcheon mulcahy, brady shipman, rps and…cant think of any other ones with cork operations…sorry, think thats it. the old age is kickin in!!
December 20, 2005 at 2:26 pm #758734corkdood
Participant@lexington wrote:
🙂 😮 CCC in conjunction with Fleming Construction and Coleman Bros. Developments have made public notice of their intent to develop 405 new homes (287 social/affordable and 118 private) on the 24.5-acre lands at Shanakiel (former Convent/Hospital Grounds). The development will consist of 8 4-bedroom dwellings, 195 3-bedroom terraced houses, 16 3-bedroom duplexes, 16 ground floor 2-bedroom apartments – under the affordable category. With 1 2-storey 5 bedroom detached house, 4 4-bedroom houses, 6 3-bedroom, 36 3-bedroom terrace/semi-detached, 5 2-bedroom bungalows and 66 apartments over 10 2-storey blocks in the private element.
Lexington, Just digging up an old post of yours from earlier on this year. Has planning permission been given for this development including the private aspect?
December 20, 2005 at 3:16 pm #758735lexington
Participant@corkdood wrote:
Lexington, Just digging up an old post of yours from earlier on this year. Has planning permission been given for this development including the private aspect?
Yes – the project was cleared by CCC for a proportionately reduced scheme – I think approx. 360 units, clumsily I don’t have the exact figure to hand – but I believe construction should be ready for 2006.
December 20, 2005 at 3:26 pm #758736lexington
Participant(Ref: C:A&D thread [“developments in cork”] Post #: 553)
@lexington wrote:
An application for a redevelopment of the Muskerry Service Station, a prominent 0.6acre site along the Western Road (next to UCC and a substantial redevelopment by OCP of the former Jurys Doyle Hotel lands) which sold earlier this year through CBRE Gunne from vendors Esso Ireland for a figure in excess of €8m – is believed to be not far off. The service station, which was due to close this October, is now not expected to seize operations until a later date, supposedly late December 2005. Assessments are being carried out on the site with a planning application speculated to follow in the not too distant future.
The Muskerry Service Station along the Western Road – a hop west across the river from the former Jurys Doyle site currently being redeveloped by OCP – has shut its doors and a fence has been erected around the 0.6 acre site. The site was disposed of through agents CBRE Gunne as part of ExxonMobil (Esso) plans to focus on its core Irish markets – which centre around the Dublin city region. The site was understood to have changed hands for a figure in excess of €8m (equating roughly to a value of €13m per acre). The site was sold to a developer understood to be seeking the realisation of a predominantly residential project over basement. The building could well reach to 6-storeys (taking the nearby Jurys as a benchmark) and include a waterfront amenity provision around the river facing parameter of the site – however these details are purely speculative for the time being. An application, originally slated for December – is expected in the not too distant future.
😎 And just as a point of interest for anyone in the area, one of the 2 commercial units available at BrideView Developments recently completed development, Unity House on the site of the former McCarthy family’s Unity Garage between Alfred Street and the Lower Glanmire Road – is destined to be yet another Subway Sandwich Bar. Another franchised unit exists east along MacCurtain Street. This will give the operation bookends.
Unity HouseDecember 20, 2005 at 4:06 pm #758737corkdood
ParticipantThank you Lex – reliable as always.
December 21, 2005 at 1:10 am #758738A-ha
ParticipantAer Lingus announced over the week-end that they are to begin new services to Berlin, Tenerife and Birmingham direct from Cork from June 2006. Over the last few months, the airline has increased flights on it’s London Heathrow and Paris CDG routes from Cork and began new services to Munich, Nice and Warsaw.
December 21, 2005 at 10:35 am #758739-Donnacha-
Participantthat unity house development on alfred st/lwr glanmire road is awful –
considering its location in relation to patrick’s church, the prominent position on what will become the primary link to the north docks/horgans quay, its visual importance and the opportunity of the site its a real disappointment – cheap materials, no apparent design philosophy, no response to the opportunity that the site presents.
has anyone seen it in the flesh -its fairly substandard – does anyone know – was there an architect involved?
December 21, 2005 at 10:56 am #758740Leesider
Participantwas just checking out google earth, would love to see an updated image of Cork and perhaps for it to cover a wider area, it just misses my house! Not sure what year the photo was taken but the amount of development that has taken place since has been huge. In the image the Ballincollig bypass is just being built, the shopping centre hasn’t been started, the new terminal at the airport hasn’t been started, the site opposite he Blackpool shopping centre is still wasteland, mahon point is only started, Wilton shopping centre is expanding, alot of other things I am sure other people could point out………oh yeah pana makeover has just started! Definitely a tool that’s worth checking out!!
December 21, 2005 at 11:10 am #758741Pug
Participantbunch wrote:that unity house development on alfred st/lwr glanmire road is awful –QUOTE]
beats the decrepit garage that was sitting there rotting though!
December 21, 2005 at 11:22 am #758742Saucy Jack
Participant@bunch wrote:
that unity house development on alfred st/lwr glanmire road is awful –
considering its location in relation to patrick’s church, the prominent position on what will become the primary link to the north docks/horgans quay, its visual importance and the opportunity of the site its a real disappointment – cheap materials, no apparent design philosophy, no response to the opportunity that the site presents.
has anyone seen it in the flesh -its fairly substandard – does anyone know – was there an architect involved?
I think that it was done by an engineer the name does’nt spring to mind but the firm was mentioned in the property section of the Irish Examiner about 4 weeks ago.
St.Patricks house next door has planning for a further 2 storeys of offices / apartments which may happen soon which
may help this important and until recently neglected area of the city.Its better than what was there but another Subway outlet going in there won’t do it any favours.
December 21, 2005 at 12:01 pm #758743-Donnacha-
Participantit is better than what was there but in my opinion when we describe or assess the quality/standard of a new building and end up saying “sure it beats what was there before” – it speaks volumes about what it has been replaced with. i’m not been smart but is that what we should be aiming for ?
December 21, 2005 at 1:57 pm #758744POM
ParticipantI agree with bunch. I don’t dislike Unity House…however this site along with Clyde House on Brian Boru street offer what are essentially gateway sites to what will be a huge renewal scheme along the northern docks. As such the sites, in signifying the entrance to this new quarter, be utilised to offer effective statements. Unity House is fine and all, heck it could have been so much worse, but no, this is not the standard we should be aiming for and if this reflects the bar to which we can expect the rest of the north docks to follow then I’ll ask for the bill a little earlier than I’d rather. Unity House does not offer the statement it should given its prominent location, however in fairness to the engineers and developers involved it does respect established heights along its adjoining block and perhaps it will offer a structure increase as the blocks to its rear lay over to redevelopment. It also does not overly impact the nearby church which is a considerable commendment.
December 21, 2005 at 1:58 pm #758745Radioactiveman
Participant@bunch wrote:
that unity house development on alfred st/lwr glanmire road is awful –
I have to totally disagree with you Bunch! I think its one of the best designed developments in recent years. Its sleak, its smooth, doesn’t have an overbearing presence on St. Patrick’s Church, and fits the site snuggly and is respectful of the buildings adjacent to it.
I really like this building! Surely I cant be the only one!! Am I?
The subway outlet though, we could do without.Developer was Brideview Developments Ltd. and the architect, I believe, was Denis O’Sullivan.
December 21, 2005 at 4:01 pm #758746who_me
Participant@lexington wrote:
😎 And just as a point of interest for anyone in the area, one of the 2 commercial units available at BrideView Developments recently completed development, Unity House on the site of the former McCarthy family’s Unity Garage between Alfred Street and the Lower Glanmire Road – is destined to be yet another Subway Sandwich Bar. Another franchised unit exists east along MacCurtain Street. This will give the operation bookends.

Unity HouseActually, now that you post the picture, it reminded me – I was passing Unity House a couple of days ago and the red brickwork is actually quite attractive, there’s a great variation in the colour of the bricks giving a far more textured look than you’d normally expect to see. (I don’t know if this will fade over time or not).
December 21, 2005 at 4:16 pm #758747theblimp
ParticipantHi & Seasons Greetings! :p
I noted with interest that the For Sale signs have gone up on that circa 130 acre parcel of land off the Ballincollig By-Pass. I know it was zoned leisure/recreational so has anyone got an insight into who’s now got it, and what they hope to do with it. I’d be rather peeved to learn that they plan to just sit on it for years and wait for a residential re-zoning
December 21, 2005 at 9:48 pm #758748lexington
Participant🙂 Frinailla have been granted planning following appeal for their Springmount development in Glanmire, designed by Kiosk Architects. Originally lodged as an application for 65 duplex (40) and apartment (25) units, following revisions, the scheme was reduced to 49 units of which only 47 were granted by CorkCoCo. The scheme for the steep sloping 1.2 hectare site (which was sold through Global Properties for a price estimated at around €4m) was appealed by the Ballincrossig Residents Association. In his report, ABP Planning Inspector David Dunne noted, “Kiosk Architects have not taken the easy option of designing a standard and bland apartment scheme but have put considerable effort and skill into designing a development of merit on a challenging site.” A grant was afforded with respect to the revised proposal submitted during Further Information with CorkCoCo.
😎 Midelton Town Council have appealed CorkCoCo’s decision to grant a project by BrideView Developments at the former Lakeview Estate at Castleredmond in Midelton. The estate, purchased through Cohalan Downing Associates for an estimated €19m by Declan O’Mahony’s development business, was the subject of a proposal for 429 residential units designed by O’Mahony Pike Architects (328 apartments across a single building ranging in heights of up to 5-storeys and 101 houses). The project, which also included a number of amenity elements, was permitted subject to a number of reduction inducing conditions – these of which have been also appealed by BrideView Developments on a First Party Basis.
😎 University College Cork are to lodge plans to develop a 4390sq m, 4-storey laboratory building along Dyke Parade as part of the Tyndall Institute (former NMRC). The new building will link to to the existing Lee Maltings building (PS) via a glazed atrium street.– meanwhile, further west along the Mardyke Parade, UCC have been refused by ABP (despite the Planning Inspector’s recommendation) to develop a new 2-storey outreach centre (some 12,000sq ft) designed by Jack Coughlan & Associates. The building would include lecture theatres, a resource centre and cafe – with landscaped access to the new Mardyke Pedestrian Bridge (part of the “Banks of the Lee” project).

Tyndall InstituteDecember 22, 2005 at 1:22 pm #758749lexington
ParticipantFormally launched in May 22th 2002 – the UCC Biosciences Building, designed by Murray O’Laoire Achitects is scheduled for a 7-storey extension. The Biosciences Research Institute is a 6700 sq.m. building housing six post-graduate Bioscience Research departments drawn from all the Life-Science faculties at UCC, including Medicine, Anatomy, Food Science and Health, Biochemistry, & Biotechnology. UCC are seeking permission for an extension of 1505sq m over 7-floors. The additional floorspace will allow for a further laborartory and overhead office space to be provided.

A view facing South of the Bioscience Building at UCC.The application comes following a further application for an extension to the Tyndall Institute along Dyke Parade and a refusal by ABP for the university’s proposal Outreach Centre along the Mardyke Fields.
December 22, 2005 at 1:24 pm #758750ewankennedy
ParticipantAny pre-Christmas surprises?? I thought OCP were suppose to be lodging Academy street at the start of this month. Planning office is closing today isnt it? Or is it tomorrow? Is it worth keeping our hopes up??
December 22, 2005 at 1:25 pm #758751Radioactiveman
Participant@lexington wrote:
University College Cork are to lodge plans to develop a 4390sq m, 4-storey laboratory building along Dyke Parade as part of the Tyndall Institute (former NMRC). The new building will link to to the existing Lee Maltings building (PS) via a glazed atrium street.
This follows the movement of Zoology department to new facilities in the cooperage buildings (PS) at Distillery Fields on the North Mall. This will be linked to the main campus via the ‘Banks of the Lee’ walkway and mardyke bridge…which I believe are due to open today!
Mercy Hospital and UCC (joint owners) are currently working on an extensive site plan for the large Distillery Fields site which will see some very noticable and high quality architectural additions to the area.lexington wrote:meanwhile, further west along the Mardyke Parade, UCC have been refused by ABP (despite the Planning Inspector’s recommendation) to develop a new 2-storey outreach centre (some 12,000sq ft) designed by Jack Coughlan & Associates. The building would include lecture theatres, a resource centre and cafe – with landscaped access to the new Mardyke Pedestrian Bridge (part of the “Banks of the Lee” project).A very special building was required for this important site- unfortunately this just didnt cut the mustard!
One amusing piece from the well written Inspector’s Report:
“The question of access for retrieval of cricket balls is not a planning matter.”
December 22, 2005 at 9:16 pm #758752pier39
Participant@ewankennedy wrote:
Any pre-Christmas surprises?? I thought OCP were suppose to be lodging Academy street at the start of this month. Planning office is closing today isnt it? Or is it tomorrow? Is it worth keeping our hopes up??
dont think theyre closed til tomorrow.
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