developments in cork
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@corcaighboy wrote:
HE’S BACK!!! And thank god for that. Lex, you were sorely missed. But so glad to see ya back again.
😎 And so say all of us..maybe i can put away the book i was forced to read while Lex was away.(reading his posts is a lot more fun)
@corcaighboy wrote:
HE’S BACK!!! And thank god for that. Lex, you were sorely missed. But so glad to see ya back again.
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Welcome back Lex – informative as ever.
Anybody know whats happening with The Grand Parade site at the old Grand Parade Hotel – there has’nt been any activity there in a long time ?
@A-ha wrote:
I can’t wait for the next big shopping development to open up in Cork, especially as they seem to be opening up in the city centre, rather than the suburbs. Habitat, H&M, TKMaxx and more shops that fit the Bershka, Jane Norman and Zara type profile are all expected to open up in either Cornmarket St. or else Academy St. It’s true Marks and Spencer were supposed to open up in Ballincollig, but I believe they were outbid by Dunnes (lucky us). I think Douglas Court has always been top of the list for best suburban shopping centre, even more so since Esprit and the like have opened up there. Blackpool is a very well designed shopping centre with a good mix of shops, especially since the retail park opened up next door. When are PC World, Currys and Halfords due to open up in Mahon Point?….. I thought they were to open in January.
It’s not the mix of shops that I have been complaining about with regard to suburban shopping centre deveopments.
Consider Douglas Court. Pedestriand access is appalling and people are unlikely to combine a trip to Douglas Court with a trip to the rest of Douglas. Partially, this is because of the still undeveloped land that lies between Douglas Court and Douglas East, but even if this was developed, Douglas Court will still be set back across its car park with two internal roads for pedestrians to cross in addition to the main Douglas Relief Road. Similarly, I can’t imagine anyone popping across to Blackpool village from Blackpool SC. Both developments are in their respective suburbs, but are not part of it.
I’ll give Mahon Point the benefit of the doubt, because it doesn’t have a significant suburban centre to connect to.
I can understand why developers would want this set up. After all, why would shopping centre operators want to provide free parking when people go and shop elsewhere. However, that’s where the planning report should come in to force more integration into existing retail environments.
On a side note, welcome back Lex, it’s good to see your information here again (albeit temporarily).
Indeed nice to see the info popping up again. There’s a bulk of information there and I have many questions but 2 things stand out and thats the greenlighting by Pleanala of Paul Kenny’s proposal there for Saint Patricks Quay and the granting of the hotel by Pitwood. Both exciting schemes. I was lucky enough to have a very early participation in the former but whether or not it will go ahead is a wonder. I’d like to think it will given that, even though it will no longer host the Revenue, I think its high profile enough to stand on its own 2 feet. Not only would it be a great addition to Cork, I think it could serve Mister Kenny nicely as well.
ah wilkommen back lex my man(or woman), a veritable diatribe of property info there to amuse us – no doubt posting up here was starting to be a full time job! even if you have a short time left, keep us informed until the bitter end.
Good news!! Even if just for a little while.
Myabe someone can tell me whats the story with Water street?? ABP asked for a redesign didnt they? Does that mean no tall element at all? A decision is due in March right? Surely the drawings would have been submit to the planning inspector at this stage? Any ideas on what the new scheme will be like??
Lex, it’s great to see you around the house again.
The problem with getting a stream of information is that when it is shut off, you feel deprived. Anyway, we’ll enjoy what ever info and comment you provide while you are available.
Best wishes with whatever grand plans you may be hatching:)
@Leesider wrote:
was wondering can anyone tell me where amgen is supposed to be locating?? I presume it is on the Midleton side of Carrigtwohill, also does anyone know where the train station will be built in carrigtwohill, will it e near the village centre or further out?
The AMGEN site is on the Midleton side of Carrigtwohill, about 2 kms from the village on the left hand side. It is where the National Ploughing Championship was held some years ago.
I assume they will redevelop the old railway station which is a bit of a walk from the main street, down beyond the church.
The railway line passes along the boundary of the AMGEN site so whether they will have/need a connection, I do not know.wow… talk about information. It’s good to see you came back lex, but I hope you won’t be gone for too long. ewan, I wouldn’t hold your breath on Water Street…. the original decision date whether it would go ahead or not was over a year ago. It’s such a shame too, I really had my heart on the original project, but I’m tired of waiting, although I still keep my fingers crossed. Also, wasn’t there talk of building two stations in Carrigtohill a few months back – one in the town and the other in a newly built business park. I can’t imagine them not building one tiny platform outside the Amgen plant, even it was only in use in the mornings and afternoons during rush hour…. but then you’ll always be surprised in Ireland when it comes to transport. I just can’t see 1,500 cars driving into Carrigtohill every morning.
There’s a few factors they’ll take into account when deciding whether to build a station for AMGEN.
- Will the extra passengers gained be greater than the lost passengers because of the extra journey time to Midleton?
- Will it still be possible to get a train to Midleton and turn it round in 1/2 an hour? If they can’t it would mean buying extra trains.
- How will it affect the ability of trains to pass on the Midleton spur? The line from Glounethaune to Midleton will be single-track only. The current plan is to have a frequent service with trains passing in Carrigtohill station. On this plan a 15 minute frequency could be maintained. An extra station could scupper this idea
I’m sure Irish Rail could add a few more to those as well.
If they can get a satisfactory answer to all those questions, then it’s likely that the station will be built with funding coming from the overall development. The cost of a railway station is not extortionate. Monasterevin cost £2.5million for the entire fit-out with car-park and wheelchair lifts etc. Obviously, this figure will have risen, but it’s small money in the context of the overall proposal.
When is Eglington Street due for completion? I can’t wait to see the finished product, but don’t have a clue when it’s supposed to be done. Also, when is the Kinsale Rd. roundabout flyover meant to be finished? They have made alot of progress over the last few weeks, I presume it’s on schedule.
@A-ha wrote:
When is Eglington Street due for completion? I can’t wait to see the finished product, but don’t have a clue when it’s supposed to be done. Also, when is the Kinsale Rd. roundabout flyover meant to be finished? They have made alot of progress over the last few weeks, I presume it’s on schedule.
:rolleyes: The Kinsale Road roundabout flyover is due to be operational way ahead of schedule (March-April 2006) but the official opening will not happen until the boss from Dublin desides that the best photo opportunity presents itself..(2007 election and all that bullshite)
wow, didn’t know it was that soon, I was thinking more along the lines of summer 2007. Yeah… someone is always trying to swing votes…. we’ll be hearing about the Midleton Railway and Terminal 2 at the airport until ‘ol Bertie is 6 feet under. What about Eglington Street?
Hey Lex… thanks for getting back to us. It certainly hasn’t been the same.
I haven’t been in Cork for quite a while…
Has Eglinton Street started?
How is the Coal Quay comning along… any news of the update to the market and the new park not to mind the Guy and co development?
Has construction started on the Jurys site… is Jurys to reopen?
Have O’Flynn got the go ahead for Dunkettle?Thanks all for any answers.
@mickeydocs wrote:
Has Eglinton Street started?
How is the Coal Quay comning along… any news of the update to the market and the new park not to mind the Guy and co development?
Has construction started on the Jurys site… is Jurys to reopen?
Have O’Flynn got the go ahead for Dunkettle?
(image previously posted by Lexington)
Eglington Street has not started yet. All the planning wrangles have, I believe been sorted and the project is due to get off the ground in the next couple of months. Adjacent to this site, the new Webworks building and the new civic offices at city hall are in progress. The former is almost complete.The Coal Quay required an extensive archaeological survey be carryed out before work proper could begun. That is now complete and work is progressing, with a long way left to go. A structural issue with nearby houses did not cause any significant delays.
Construction on the jury’s site is well underway. with the hotel block well ahead of the remainder of the developement.
There was an ABP oral hearing in Cork last week relating to O’Flynn’s development of Dunkathel House and surrounding lands. That decision is due in March (I beleive).Yes it is. Some work has already been done between daunt square and the junction with Washington Street and work at the other end of the street is due to begin very shortly.
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