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Thought this thread could do with a revival since the Dublin-Waterford motorway is finished, and soon the Limerick-Dublin motorway. The only remaining route to Dublin to be improved is the N2/A5 to Derry. So 5 years later, lets look at the pros and cons.
Pro:
journeys between Waterford, Cork, Kerry, Limerick, Clare, Galway and Louth, Down, Armagh Antrim would be greatly improved.
It would relive congestion on the M50 and some national secondary/regional roads.
It would make Cork and Belfast more attractive places to do business because of the added connectivity
Con:
we’ve no money
We’ve no way of determining if there is high demand for such a route
The rent-a-hippy crowd will be camping on site in no time.If aqua vetro went ahead at this stage, I’d be very impressed. That is what’s replacing most of the Bowland’s mill site, right?
@thebig C wrote:
Really? I do remember that there was controversy that one of Belfasts oldest pubs was demolished/closed to make way for it but I thought that the only large scale demolishion involved Churchill House, a 1960s slab?
there was a good bit of decaying georgian housing, in fairness I suppose it was only fit for demolition. A similar pub opened just outside victoria square in a classic building, not sure if it’s different owners though. The kitchen bar I believe it’s called.
Victoria square destroyed more than 1/4 of Belfast’s surviving georgian stock. Although for some that was a positive thing. Victoria Sq. is very impressive though, and I just wish ABP wasn’t so uptight about the Dublin Central scheme, the proposed skypark would have been just as interesting as viccy’s dome.
super, is there any money for this yet? with the slight pick up in the economy recently, I wouldn’t be surprised if the project got some funds by late 2011. Does the planning permission have a short time limit?
@davea wrote:
In general Dublin seems to be the only place that the governement properly care about.
Lol, the government doesn’t care about us. If they did they wouldn’t have waisted €715m on the westlink toll bridge even though it’s construction costs were only a fraction of that.
it said there will be a straight through pedestrian route between O’Connell and Moore st. and both entrences will have square edges, which will hinder pedestrian movement. I’d prefere a corved entrence and a curved walkway between the two streets, it gives the impression of a longer street, and adds some ambience.
@EIA340600 wrote:
I don’t know where in that article you got “point village ready for 2014”
It simply says that the “Parlor” will stay there ’till 2014.
That means the chance of the watchtower springing up in the next 4 years are low, unless they’ve devised some system to build through occupied space.
Someday though….we’ll have a shiny building that’s taller than anything you could see in Cork…..Someday…..
ok, so maybe construction will resume in 2014 but they can chose to occupy the space on front of the tower with the market. Maybe the market + some builders on site may bring a bit of a daytime buzz to the area.
no, it doesn’t include liffey man, I’d imagine it includes the watchtower and the district centre, but now the foundations are under concrete, so digging them back up again might a bit of a task.
In this article, Crosbie seems to indicate that Point Village will be complete in 2014
it’s over a year old anyway. But just as well because the foundations have been covered over. Surely they’ll be dug up in the future?
Is it likely we’ll ever see this rising out of the ground?http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.348225,-6.227789&spn=0.000775,0.002368&t=h&z=19
@johnglas wrote:
‘…was painted cream or magnolia…’ ffs, this is Main St Dublin! Reminds me of the rebuilt Plymouth after the Luftwaffe had bombed the original; clearly, DCC doesn’t need the bombers…
I was just trying to make the best of a bad situation. Of course I agree the new entrance lacks any confidence, imagination or common sense. The orange block on the left is paticularly offensive and it’s square edge will hinder pedestrian movements to the south.
If that building on the left of the entrance was painted cream or magnolia and had a rounded corner instead of a square one, it would be far less offensive to the eye
OMG the origional plan was fine, the wide entrance was worthy of our city’s main boulevard. The new plan is essentially a pokey gap in the buildings, it looks almost afraid of it’s own existance. The old proposal screamed confidence, this screams “bleh”
I find thaat I keep looking at and looking away, it’s like watching the exorcist.
@GrahamH wrote:
Whatever next, Punchbowl. Before you know it, the infamous Pheonix Bar will be attracting the same clientele as its Dublin park equivalent!
Not being from Dundalk, what exaclty is wrong with the clientele of Pheonix Bar? and what is it’s Dublin Park Equivalent?
