Carlton Cinema Development
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RE: the Carlton, I think they have permission for it without the most interesting bit (the viewing platform). And the Grande entrence has been reduced to just a few metres wide, other than that the project seems to be a bit stalled. Although there are a few buildres and some scaffolding doing something in a giant hole in the ground where it’s supposed to go, but the Carlto building itself remains.
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RE: the Carlton, I think they have permission for it without the most interesting bit (the viewing platform). And the Grande entrence has been reduced to just a few metres wide, other than that the project seems to be a bit stalled. Although there are a few buildres and some scaffolding doing something in a giant hole in the ground where it’s supposed to go, but the Carlto building itself remains.
Just tell me something is going to replace it at some point soon..
well they’re doing something in that hole in the ground next to it so I’d imagine it’ll eventually be built, but not in it’s orgional format, which was more impressive than Belfast’s Victoria Square. The Facade of the Carlton was supposed to be a keeper from the origional plans, it’s all kinda up in the air at the moment.
More impressive than Viccy Square aye?
Well, this is OCS for gods sake, if there’s a street in Ireland on which to pull out the stops a little, it’s freaking OCS..
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Yes I had heard they were pretty poor. They seem to be overly constrained by the ACA.
I have seen the latest plans and the differences are the garden in the sky is gone, the entrance onto O Connell Street is narrower and some building facades kept on Moore Street but they still have four stories of a car park under the National Monument and only rebuilding the streets, not keeping the historical streets. really disappointing!! Chartered Lands have missed their last opportunity here.
I’ve been away for a few weeks, but I got the aircoach to OCS today and noticed some new thing going on at that stupid 4D (or whatever) ride. Please tell me they’re not extending Dr. Quirkey’s
News renders submitted to ABP, show much diminished entrance from O’Connell Street, no Park in the Sky. Pretty bland to be honest compared to the original plan.
They’re pretty dire. Why do they need to break both the horizontal *and* vertical street lines? What on earth is that god awful structure encompassing the Carlton front? There’s not much point keeping the existing front if they’re going to destroy it like that.
Dear oh dear oh dear.
So finally, can we please put RIAI awards and AAI handouts to bed? They are not reality. This is reality. This is the coalface of architecture in Ireland in 2010. This is the standard of what gets lodged with planning authorities every day of the week. And it’s bloody ignorant.
Watch the spinning on this now and how ‘this is what you get with ACAs’, rather than ‘this is what you get with unimaginative architects’.
That’s unbelievable.
They’ve made the Carlton look like it was designed by Albert Speer.
and the rest of it . . . what’s the theme? . . . . . Germania meets Portlaoise?
Jesus Christ
Jesus. They’re shockin alright. The original scheme had its problem but this looks like they’ve just given up.
The only justification for breaking the parapet height of the street here would be if the Carlton as housing a major civic building – ie the abbey.
These aca’s mean nothing… because they don’t have one very simple diagram….
So many of the aca’s are vague…
Words do not mean anything… simple diagrams do…
rescode you should have concode :pDr Quirkeys gets a reprieve.
I don’t see why they changed the carlton facade proposal from the second incarnation, as still seen (for the time being) on http://www.dublincentral.ie. I know setbacks are none too popular on archiseek, but its gotta be better than that boxy shite
OMG the origional plan was fine, the wide entrance was worthy of our city’s main boulevard. The new plan is essentially a pokey gap in the buildings, it looks almost afraid of it’s own existance. The old proposal screamed confidence, this screams “bleh”
I find thaat I keep looking at and looking away, it’s like watching the exorcist.
This is the new and actual plan for the site? Gods above, it looks terrible. The building to be developed around the Carlton looks drab, depressing and ugly. The street covering is skimpy and derisory. The new streetscape looks as if it could be anywhere and does not inspire confidence. I wasn’t fond of the previous submission and I wasn’t convinced that the Park in the Sky could work but it is far superior to this effort. At least it had a bit of panache and would contribute something to Dublin’s fabric. The Park in the Sky could in fact be made to work and become a new focus for the city. Unfortunately, with the new plan, this will not come to pass.
If that building on the left of the entrance was painted cream or magnolia and had a rounded corner instead of a square one, it would be far less offensive to the eye
The first scheme wasn’t perfect, but at least it had balls.
Absolutely shameful.
And despite the awfulness of that attic story on the Carlton, what is more concerning is what’s peeking up behind the buildings to the right of it.
Is this for real? Where did that image come from?
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