Carlton Cinema Development

@StephenC wrote:

The only good thing to come from this is that it will probably never be built

What makes you think that? The wheels seem in motion now..

5 years of a demolition zone half way down OCS while people actually design a decent development would be preferable to that absolute shrine of mediocrity.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0327/1224267172959.html
is this the same plan? Doesn’t seem to be any of the street in the original, just a covered arcade running back to Moore st with glass canopy over half of moore st, although image doesn’t appear in link. It’s rather depressing to think what could become of the area, like it or loathe it, moore st has developed organically and i love this street, probably one of the most interesting in Dublin, i’d love to see the streets behind redeveloped into a high density residential area, a warren of small independent shops and restaurants like you’d find off las ramblas or tokyo backstreets. But no, the british high street’s gonna punch it’s way through to the ilac mall dressed in chrome, glass, aluminium and every sterile contemporary accessary going.

it said there will be a straight through pedestrian route between O’Connell and Moore st. and both entrences will have square edges, which will hinder pedestrian movement. I’d prefere a corved entrence and a curved walkway between the two streets, it gives the impression of a longer street, and adds some ambience.

Im glad they got the green light, 5 stories is enough for O Connell street !

The design approved by An Bord Pleanála is conservative a real opportunity was lost to add something that would bring focus to O’Connell, the original design without the sky park was much more exciting.

both entrences will have square edges, which will hinder pedestrian movement.

Ahh, those pesky square corners, never got the hang of them…

Mixed reactions from two of the objectors…reading up now…

Actually its a different part of the Dublin Central site – site of RDH is under construction for a new headquarters for Dublin Bus. However your point is valid… “temporary” car parks on cleared sites were the scourge of the city centre in the 1980s and took years to resolve. However, it begs a question which is bound to be repeated elsewhere in the city:what do do with a big site when you have permission but no money to develop.

Hey, its not as if we haven’t seen enough crap put onto O’Connell Street over the years….amusements, derelict offices, 3D rides, cheap shops, fast food, Jesus statues, “temporary” signs…. whats a surface car park or two….

@Devin wrote:

Canary in the coalmine for PHASE TWO of the building recession got to be planning applications for city-centre surface car parks. This one for a site on the Grand Canal Basin adjacent the new theatre was refused by DCC – 4499/09. The refusal has been appealed by the applicant, Kilsaran Concrete – details.

And now the Carlton want a surface car park on the site of the Royal Dublin Hotel, Upper O’Connell Street – 2373/10

Remind me again, is not car access to this premier street already severely restricted? Very long term parking obviously.

@culchiebuilder wrote:

How common / big of a problem is this around the O’Connell street area?

Moore Street and O’Rahilly lane area primarily. It’s not really such a big problem provided the developer has done their homework, realizes its a brown field site and makes allowances in advance. I have been aware of this re Carlton site for years. The story as headlined is making news in a summer season when this is already long since known. A quick glance at Rocque’s 1756 map shows Moore Street as “Brick Lane” – in the 1730s Brick Lane would have of course been on the outskirts of the city, and the bricks produced here would have been used for Henrietta Street.

Hope this is of help – welcome to the site 🙂