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When does construction start on the site? I read somewhere that September was the start date but that’s probably different now because of incompitant staff at pleanala
There are also plans to demolish two Victorian houses on the NCR near Dorset Street not to far from Drumcondra to accomidate an emergency exit for the Matter Hospital Stop
@Keen wrote:
my french flatmate needs to go from Terenure to Ballsbridge every day, via the city centre in rush hour traffic. Public transport is ubiqitious and necessary in most cities…is that hard to believe? People depend on it. Just make sure that when the metro is built to the airport that it is marketed to the last in tourist spots, travel offices and hotels so that travellers do not need to go sightseeing in Saturday afternoon traffic on the top deck of the 16A!
Public transport is here to stay, and the LUAS passenger number increase year on year proves that.In relation to your flatmate, That is just the reason why I think there should be circle line bus that travels along the grand canal interchanges with both luas lines and cross the new Becket bridge (2010) stops near grand canal dock, Connolly and Drumcondra stations. Interchages with the propsed Metro and luas line D, continues along the North Circular Rd., into the park and across Island Bridge, stopping near Heuston and continues along the Grand Canal
@Keen wrote:
in all fairness, there’s little difference with changing in town and changing at the airport. It’s sad that the airport is only served by one bus rout for the entire southside. I normally get the Aircoach on Leeson street if i need to go to the airport, which is normally very very early if going to the UK and therefore requires a taxi direct to the airport. The last time that cost me €35 from Terenure. I really don’t want to be paying that…it’s an embarrassment to public transport. At least the taxis are cleaning up
Youre forgetting the 746 bus Dun Laoire to Airport
“Do you have any Idea how long it would take to get to the city centre from Swords? The journey would turn most people off public transport for good.”
Do you mean like the 142, 41X, Swords Express or some of the 748’s and 747’s. they all take 4 minutes to get from one end of the tunnel to the other what do you mean the journey would turn people off public transport?
I’d say the lift shaft(s) will fly up but the floor plating would take more time and the fitting out always takes alot longer, I’d say 2 years from now is a fair enough time line. It’s unlikely to be finished by 2009 me thinks
agreed, Cork does need a night link. However it is important to note that the night link in Dublin is a skeleton service and the buses are only outbound and some routes only have two services per night
@Pug wrote:
dont know how true it is but someone at work tells me the govt have announced that there wont be funding for the docklands bridge until at least 2010 – joke – not really a surprise though given the lack of fund for infrastructure from Dublin for cork in general – last bus at 11.30 is such a joke
The last bus in Dublin is also at 11:30, what’s wrong with that? In fact some Dublin Bus routes have their last
service at 11! Cork is not hard done by in that departmentOverworked, have you seen the tower under construction with your own eyes? If the current economic climate was a reason for the delay, why wouldn’t they have dissasembled the underground lift shaft by now?
Is Elvis Presley still gonna be opening the Point Village in 2009 ? 😀 Me thinks Mr Crosbie has a few loose screws
If bono’s face goes on it, I’ll bomb it. Couldn’t stand another U2 vanity project. Wouldn’t it be kind of similar to the giant man proposed to be built in the liffey?
the northern Dart line is allredy over capacity. With DART Commuter and intercity services running on it. Also Connolly and the Loopline cannot accomidate anymore train movements. Therefor a spur off the DART line to the airport is not feasable
yea but we all know how U2 like to hear U2 talk about U2. Who cares anyway the point watchtower is going up anyway. mayb in the future if the DDDA get their act together, they’ll find some serious developers for the site.
@shweeney wrote:
its the money!
its the money!!
its the money!!!metro north looks great on paper and I’d love to see something like that in the city, but I don’t think we can possibly justify spending €6 billion on it. If you were to spend just €1billion on a proper bus service for the city you could something much more wide-reaching and effective in a fraction of the time.
And I’m not talking about giving the money to Dublin Bus, – we could create a new network from scratch with properly though-out routes, priority measures and passenger information systems, possibly augmenting an expanded Luas network, again with proper priority which the existing network does not have.
If we could build the Metro for a billion (how much did Madrid’s cost??) then fine, but 6 billion is outrageous and not justifiable for a project that only serves a small area of the city.
The cost is high, but building a whole new bus service or expanding the luas presents it’s own problems. For example anything other than a high speed metro link would run out of capacity very quickly.
Secondly we all know that air heads park on the so called QBC on Dorset street so more QBC’s would have similar issues. They have to wait at traffic junctions. The shortage of road space in the city center is an issue.
The luas is also subject to traffic lights and air head drivers that try to play chicken with the luas at junctions by parking in yellow boxesWhat do you mean pay them back? the private consortium contributes capital investment for construction costs in exchange for a contract to run the metro for a set amount of years after which it will be transfered to public ownership. Same story as the toll roads and the luas which are operated by NTR and Veloa respectively
from the horse’s (RPA’s) mouth:
“RPA is pleased to be able to inform you that good progress is being made with plans for Metro North which will extend from St. Stephen’s Green via Dublin Airport to Belinstown. RPA intends to apply to An Bord Pleanála for a Railway Order later this year with the aim of startig construction in 2009.”
The no arguement is full of holes it highlights urban sprawl at the same time as suggesting the metro is not important and a wasate of money.
-A spur off the dart line to the airport is unpractical for high frequency rail as the northern line is already above it’s capacity. It already serves Commuter, Dart and enterprise services
-Swords will have a population of 100,000 in the next ten years, is that not worth planninhg for?
-Yes surface tracking would be cheaper but the service would be subject to traffic and resulting delays
-The current airport buses are laughable and there needs to be more choice in public transport in the future
-The works on Stephen’s Green are a temporary set back.
– Why would extending the metro to Sandyford make it more viable? The luas already goes there
-The metro will be well connected to all other modes actually
-The interconnector is part of the transport21 plan aswel I’ll think you’ll find
-The RPA estimates that the metro will reach it’s capacity within ten years of it’s completion. Does that not suggest that there is a high demand? Why would they lie about that? building a metro with no demand would put them out of pocketIt’s not if somebody says it is, that’s conjecture and hear say. No I haven’t heard both sides of the story, please tell me why the Metro (the most important transport21 project is a bad idea)?
@Devin wrote:
Hopefully if the Metro is being axed (music to my ears) the Luas BX link can go ahead straight away.
Why would you wish the metro to be axed? It is very important to the national infrastructure
@jdivision wrote:
The Luas link up has already been shelved. That was revealed months ago. It’s been known for a while that the metro is a candidate for the axe, roads are more important apparently.
The luas link up has been shelved? not according to RPA’s website which states that it’s been delayed till after metro tunneling is finished. What do you mean by it’s been known for a while that the metro might be shelved? where’s your information coming from?
