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ajParticipant
you forgot the arnotts redevelopment as well!!!
Maybe some of these projects wil be more relective of success than the shit we through up in the 90s
ajParticipantjudging by the malton prints i have seen is dollard house on the site of the old customs house? …does nayone know anything abou thi building and what happened to it thanks?
ajParticipant@arachide wrote:
I’m looking for the answers to 2 questions:
1. Does anybody know anything of demolition or reconstruction on any of the buildings between 2 and 10 Ormond Quay? Last night, about 2 a.m. Sunday morning, someone was in one of the buildings carrying out some pretty heavy demolition i.e. sledge hammers breaking big pieces of something very loudly. The gardai promptly intervened and things quieted down, but it all seemed pretty strange. There have been people in a couple of these buildings occasionally in the last 2 or 3 weeks, as we notice that there are windows open from time to time. I know that #2 was renovated and is now occupied by Zeus Creative, but does anybody know about these other buildings? and
2. If construction or demolition is being conducted, is the contractor legally required to post a permit of some sort? I’ve seen no signs of any permits on the above-mentioned properties.
thanks, Arachide
Was one of these not the building that caught fire with the Fire brigade havingto rescue its Chinese occupants.
ajParticipantit would look amazing if arnotts was rebuilt to look like the image on there bags with towers and all…
ajParticipant@PDLL wrote:
Personally I don’t see Ireland and its ‘youthful’ infrastructure as pathetic. Slightly embarrassing at times (it is good sometimes to listen or eavesdrop on what tourists really say about the country rather than we like to think they say)]http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/1228/motorway.html[/url]
Time for more infrastructural funds – perhaps firearms for the Gardai would be a start.
agreed on both counts
ajParticipant@murphaph wrote:
Have you ever heard of the National Development Plan, 2000-2006? That was supposed to see the roads you mention already completed. I admire your optimism, however Ireland is pathetic in many ways, most notably the ability to complete major infrastructure projects. The green white and orange tinted sunglasses can’t mask it.
I will have to remember how pathetic Ireland is the next time i am driving to Belfast along the M1… I much preferred gettings stuck on the quays in Drogeda.. then in Dundalk and passing through every hole in the hedge village along the way…
If one thing holds this country back its negative attiudes of begrudgers. If we told someone 15 years ago Ireland would be have an economy growing at 6+ % a year , virtually full employment, a booming population and a goverment with more revenue than it knows what to do with they would not have said we we optimistic they would have said we where mad….. optimistim has been proven to be well placed
We had NO investment in infrastructure for decades.. the Dart did not have a single carriage added to the fleet for 20 years then it doubled within a year. I take the point that we may not be great at implemeting infrastructure projects… Why? because having money to spend on them is something relatively new to us and it is a learning progress… Maybe we are learning the lessons too slowly but we are still learning them in any case!
ajParticipant@J. Seerski wrote:
On the grapevine…
I was chatting to a Senior exec in Arnotts who told me all about this prior to the news being revealed in the Indo. What they told me was quite dramatic…
According to the info I got, the 1960s block fronting onto Henry Street would be demolished and replaced by a street linking Abbey Street. The teneants they are seeking for this development include many US retailers who have never been to Europe before. The intention is to break from the British imported High Street which is repeated ad nauseum throughout Ireland and replace it with stores that will make Henry Street the ultimate shopping destination. The assembled site is much bigger than you may think – it means that on the block surrounded by O’Connell, Henry, Abbey and Liffey Streets, the only major tenants are Pennys, Easons and the GPO – with preactically everything else now in the posession of Arnotts.
Other pointers to the development:
The Car park is to be demolished – all car parking to be replaced to basement level for the entire site.
Arnotts will be redeveloped completely into one of the worlds largest department stores (at present in the top 5 of Britain and Ireland).I think the new street is a great idea – Henry Street suffers from having few steets feeding into it, as opposed to Grafton Street. The plan would undoubtedly spread the city centre from its current dominant Grafton St/O’Connell Street/Henry Street axis.
this sounds excellent not only do we get a new street … a major redevelopment but the demolistion of one of the ugliest buildings in the city
ajParticipant@aj wrote:
those damn panters are everywhere.. i purpose burning the lot of tehm them are hideous and spoil the views of the BOI and other magnificent buildings
planters
ajParticipant@anto wrote:
Plenty of cluttter there already!
those damn panters are everywhere.. i purpose burning the lot of tehm them are hideous and spoil the views of the BOI and other magnificent buildings
ajParticipantis the development of upper o`connell street being massively held back by the ritz carlton debacle
ajParticipantI see the church is mentioned in the Irish Times today in a less than glowing article on the governments record on conservation.Maybe this will shame them into acting, the goverment usually reacts to any negative publicity by throwing money at it…. a restored spire flood lit at night would look magnificent
ajParticipantDevin wrote:I don’t mind Hawkins House too much. Maybe it should be kept]the same arguement could be used for small pox…flatten that pile and lets dance on the rubble
ajParticipantlets hope the northern georgian area of teh city gets a much needed facelift
ajParticipanti think the “should we , shouldnt we” agrument for highrise is completely missing the point. Some people want high rise for no other reason than its high, some people object for no reason other than its high. The point is if its a quality design built well of quality materials , suited to its location the height is irrlevant.
ajParticipantnotjim wrote:but a new bridge put the line on marlboro street]
agreed 100%ajParticipant@Morlan wrote:
Yeah, that’s well gone. The several hundred LEDs at the top now act as an aviation beacon, as does that annoying strip of light half way up – it ruins the ‘linierness’ of the spire.
i think its a real pity the spire is not flood lite along its lenght.. it would look fantastic at night instead of a light in in the middle and those leds at the top.. what do you think?
ajParticipanthas anyone any views on how the spire is lit at night.. I thikn it would look much better if it was flood lit at along its length
ajParticipant@AndrewP wrote:
Treasury are indeed ploughing ahead with the original design:
http://www.treasuryholdings.ie/dynamic/img/national.jpgMuch-needed faciilty, but that giant gable wall facing the city is going to look awful…
Abbey mark 2 ; ugly gable walls anyone?
ajParticipant@alpha wrote:
wow that is tall. belfast has a tower at 60 meters and it has 20 storeys. you could fit roughly an 80 storey building into 245 meters so.
The building in Belfast is called Windsor house and is hideous… I was lucky enough to get to the 19th floor a few years back. the views over Belfast lough are incredible
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