Spencer Dock plan wins centre race

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    -Donnacha-
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    FROM http://www.businessworld.ie

    The Treasury Holdings/Irish Rail consortium has been confirmed as winner of the competition to build the national conference centre in Dublin.

    Their 400m euro plan will see a 2,000 capacity centre in the Spencer Dock area of Dublin’s Docklands.
    Their proposal was approved as winner by the Cabinet yesterday on the recommendation of tourism minister John O’Donoghue.

    Formally, the consortium has only been awarded “provisional preferred tender” status.

    But the cabinet decision to favour it over its single rival the Anna Livia consortium is seen as being the end of the long running saga over who should build a national centre.

    The Spencer Dock proposal was designed by Irish-born architect Kevin Roche, whose has previously worked for such prestigious clients as New York’s Metropolitan Museum of Art.

    The consortium must now enter into negotiations with the government to work out the details of a Public-Private Partnership deal.

    If they complete this successfully, they will be granted “preferred tenderer” status.

    The government hopes work on the centre can begin next year, with completion in 2008.

    #763130
    jimg
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    This is the one with angled cylinder embedded in the front of it?

    #763131
    Anonymous
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    i was thinking the same thing jimg. i am guessing that is the one. i wonder what it will look like in reality?

    #763132
    GregF
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    This is great news!

    Way much better too than ”Mansfield Giant Heap of Crap”

    http://www.businessworld.ie/livenews.htm?a=1300100;s=rollingnews.htm

    #763133
    Rockflanders
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    Mansfields one wasnt in the competition.

    #763134
    -Donnacha-
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    Treasury are indeed ploughing ahead with the original design:
    http://www.treasuryholdings.ie/dynamic/img/national.jpg

    Much-needed faciilty, but that giant gable wall facing the city is going to look awful…

    #763135
    GregF
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    I’ll say these parts of it will be modified as alot of initial plans are. More glass included.

    #763136
    d_d_dallas
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    I thought with the the “revision” of Roches plan for Spencer Dock he vowed to never work here again, so how does he feel having one of his designs retained and reused? Is it with his blessing?

    #763137
    aj
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    @AndrewP wrote:

    Treasury are indeed ploughing ahead with the original design:
    http://www.treasuryholdings.ie/dynamic/img/national.jpg

    Much-needed faciilty, but that giant gable wall facing the city is going to look awful…

    Abbey mark 2 ; ugly gable walls anyone?

    #763138
    Morlan
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    It’s a horrible looking thing.

    The one in Edinburgh isn’t too bad.

    #763139
    Richards
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    Its all very well having the NCC at Spencer Dock. The one question I would ask has aducaqate provision been made for the proposed Railway Station. Is the rail station mentioned in any of the proposed plans and more importantly, will there be provision for possible expansion of the new rail station. I was interesting that Barry Kenny of IE (on the RTE news) said that the new rail station would benifit the Maynooth Line. Is the grand plan not to have the interconnector between Spencer Dock to Stephens Green and on the Heuston?

    #763140
    Maskhadov
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    great to hear its getting the green light but the center is sheer ugly. Lets hope they come up with a better design 🙂

    #763141
    GregF
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    Here’s some more conference centres close to home.

    #763142
    Rockflanders
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    theyre not allowed change the design. the 5 year old design is what were getting. Victory to sugarbowls…..
    once again design has suffered in Dublin

    #763143
    ihateawake
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    ncc rte news

    RTE reported on this and showed what i think is a really nice buidling, I had seen pictures of the spencer dock proposal before, but this seemed a little different. The report has the picture a little clearer

    #763144
    Anonymous
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    there is talk of extending the luas to the point. why don’t they extend it all the way down to dublin port while they are at it? it would be ever so handy for those who are travelling by ferry. it would be great to be able to hop off a tram and walk straight into the terminal building.

    #763145
    GregF
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    I love the glass cylinder effect of Roches NCC and the way it addresses the river. It is way more arresting than the other NCC’s pictured above. It is a striking contrast to the rudimentary office block shite around it in the docks. I think it will look cool with Calatrava’s second bridge beside it. The blank wall effect of the Abbey Theatre did’nt work because it was within a conventional streetscape. This is somewhat different. I think it has a somewhat monumental effect. Good on old Roche, the grand daddy of Irish architecture, show the young upstart kids a thing or two.

    #763146
    Anonymous
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    Extending the Luas to Dublin Port would make sense. I have only ever been in that port once and I had to get a taxi to it. It is well out of the way.

    #763147
    jimg
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    Extending the Luas to Dublin Port would make sense.

    Why would it make sense? Foot passenger numbers out of the port are tiny from what I know – I’d be surprised if it was more than a couple of hundred per day and the numbers are dropping. Spending 100 million to service 200 people a day makes no sense whatsoever – you’d be lucky to collect 100k a year in ticket sales.

    It’d make far more sense to extend the Luas along a route where there is passenger demand – for example extending the Green line north.

    #763148
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I just thought since the Luas will be going down to the Point they might as well go a bit further. It would make it that bit easier to get to. People work down there too. Why is it going to the Point so?

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