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  • in reply to: pearse street developments #744231
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    wonder what happened to it?

    in reply to: Dorset St (Upper) #715867
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    @hutton wrote:

    Looks as if Goldhawk/ Phoenix was on the money about O’Toole afterall. But where was he when objections were being lodged]There isn’t even a set of photos of no 12 in the “conservation” report – and yet there are 2 red-herring sets of the Moy bar; FFS. For anybody wanting a textbook lesson in ruthless development, this is it.[/B]

    Well done DCC you have outdone yourselves in letting the north inner city get shat on – again 😡

    The Irish Times Saturday 16th February 2007

    Build them up and knock them down
    Fintan O’Toole

    Culture Shock: We use our great writers as a unique selling point, but we can’t even be bothered to preserve the houses they lived in.

    Recently, when the Abbey Theatre staged Richard Brinsley Sheridan’s great comedy The School for Scandal, even its management was taken aback by the popularity of the production. Over the last 20 years, only around half a dozen Abbey productions have managed to sell 550 seats or more every night of their run. The School for Scandal, along with such huge hits as The Shaughraun and Dancing at Lughnasa, was one of them. This success, though, was not, on a long view, all that surprising. The School, along with Sheridan’s first play The Rivals, are the only 18th-century plays that still hold a place in the international English-language repertoire. Given any kind of decent production (and the Abbey’s was more than decent), their energy, their vividness, their linguistic invention and their rich characterisations still get through to audiences.

    It says something about the fecklessness of Irish cultural memory, however, that just as the Abbey was putting Sheridan back in an Irish context, permission has been granted to demolish the house, 10 minutes walk from the theatre, where Sheridan was born in 1751. That house, 12 Dorset Street, is saturated with Irish theatrical and literary history. Sheridan’s father, Thomas, was one of the greatest Irish actors of his age and, as manager of Smock Alley theatre, a revolutionary figure in the development of theatre here. It was Thomas who, at the cost of riots and ultimate ruin, insisted on the professional dignity of actors by removing audience members from the stage and refusing to repeat speeches on demand in the course of a performance. Sheridan’s mother, Frances, is easily the most important Irish woman writer of the 18th century, a pioneer of the epistolary novel and a considerable playwright whose A Trip to Bath was a huge influence on her son’s work.

    Sheridan himself, though he left Ireland at the age of 11 and never returned, was a self-consciously, even insistently, Irish figure. In the course of his long political career, he campaigned for Irish independence, developed ties with the United Irishmen, devoted himself to the cause of Catholic emancipation, spoke out against the abuse of Irish political prisoners, and conceived an idea that would have a huge bearing on Irish history after his death – the notion of an Irish party in the Westminster parliament. He was regarded in his time as a great adornment to Irish national pride, not least for his sensational speeches against the governor of India, Warren Hastings, which are milestones in the development of international human rights law.

    The idea that Sheridan’s birthplace should be preserved has been around for at least 50 years now. In 1956, for example, the Longford-Westmeath deputy, Frank Carter, raised the issue in the Dáil, citing “certain houses . . . which could and should be preserved”. He listed three in particular: the homes of the 1916 Rising leader Thomas Clarke, the 19th-century nationalist John Mitchel, and Sheridan’s birthplace. “A move should be made, preferably voluntary, if people were sufficiently civic-minded, to preserve those buildings, but if a move is not made voluntarily, then steps should be taken by the State, even in a small way, to preserve these famous buildings.”

    Some small moves were eventually made. The house was listed for preservation. A blue plaque was erected on the front wall in the early 1970s by Dublin Tourism. Bizarrely, however, the plaque was removed soon afterwards. While blue plaques adorn numerous buildings where Sheridan lived in London and Bath, Dublin has the unique distinction of having actually removed one. The obliteration of the house’s historical significance seems to have been a deliberate prelude to its eventual destruction.

    For many years now, it has been nothing more than a semi-derelict shell with bricked-up windows and no roof. In another bizarre twist, number 12 and number 13 Dorset Street came to be distinguished, not as landmarks, but as eyesores. A Bord Pleanála inspection report on proposals to demolish number 13 noted of the two houses that “they stand out in the streetscape. In their current state, they detract from the amenity of the area.” In 50 years, Sheridan’s house had gone, in official discourse, from a “famous building” to an infamous one.

    Does any of this matter? At an economic level, it probably does. Dublin is sold to visitors as a literary and theatrical city, and the authorities are busily attaching literary associations even to structures which have no previous connection to James Joyce, Sean O’Casey or Samuel Beckett, all of whom have new Liffey bridges named after them. Yet Dorset Street, on which two of the greatest dramatists in the English language, O’Casey and Sheridan, were born within a few hundred metres of each other, makes less than nothing of its genuine historical associations. This seems perversely wasteful.

    More importantly, though, the likely demolition of Sheridan’s birthplace implies a neurotic disconnection from the lived reality of our cultural heritage. Writers can be fetishised in the streetscape by sticking their resonant names on bridges, pubs, hotels or industrial estates. But their actual lives, the things that locate them in time and place, are not worth remembering.

    © 2007 The Irish Times

    Its is sad to see yet another demolition of whatis potentailly a fine Georgian mansion on the northside… it becomes heartbreaking given its significance. I was walking around North Georgian Dublin last week and not was genuinely amazed at the quality of some of the buildings…. i was even more surprised as to the state of most of them..

    is there any chance that someone in Government will have the balls to take on the developers and landlords who let magnificent buildings rot?

    in reply to: New street and redevelopment for Dublin ? #764572
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    is there any way they could be forced to re-instate the spires the building would look fantastic

    in reply to: Dublin Airport Metro to have unconnected terminus? #749615
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    @Seamus O’G wrote:

    Yes Indeed. The big project of his reign was supposed to be the link-up of the two LUAS lines. Despite everybody going out of their way to make their contribution on that project in a seriers of open days about a year ago, there still hasn’t been a word.

    judging by the number of times the RPA surveyors have been in dawson st I would bet my shirt that it will eventually head down this way

    in reply to: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller #750178
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    @jdivision wrote:

    Not huge but they are conducting a tall buildings survey in the north Lotts area and it is likely to result in significantly higher buildings being allowed in certain areas, Spencer Dock is expected to be one of the areas to benefit.

    i think they realise the bollocks that has been made of the rest of the docklands..to little to late?

    in reply to: New street and redevelopment for Dublin ? #764555
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    I think the Arnotts facade is safe.. there isnt a snowballs chance in hell that DCC or the public will let the developers “reinvent” what is one of Dublins signture landmarks….do you think the developer is chancing his arm a bit?..

    in reply to: New street and redevelopment for Dublin ? #764546
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    i hope they take the opportunity to restore the orginal facade and replace the dome that was removed

    in reply to: Dublin’s Ugliest Building #713209
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    @thewillow wrote:

    Next time you’re walking along Liffey Street, stop and have a good look at No 12 (Gamestop). The facade from first floor up is beyond belief. I don’t know that they could have been thinking about at the time.

    Liffey street on the whole is a bit of a mess as is the Lotts behind Batchelors Quay, hopefully Arnotts redvelopment will greatly improve the area

    in reply to: The scaffolding dissappears… #751688
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    look like the scaffolding is finally coming down for good …. standing at the bottom of Westmoreland Street the spire jumps out.. it would look fantastic flood lit when it is finished

    in reply to: Building on Sean McDermott St. #778253
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    @StephenC wrote:

    Yes, this is one of those cases that spring to mind just when you think that planning is getting better in the city. What a mess. why not just demolish the temple and build a proper street frontage. Or if you really wanted to have it both ways remove the temple and relocate in a park as a feature, or on a street as a feature..

    wouldnt this look fantastic restored and relocated as a feature in one of the city parks

    in reply to: Manor Park’s Digital Hub Plan #778040
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    @a boyle wrote:

    spike

    not considering the spike

    1. Harcourt building

    4 more to go

    in reply to: Manor Park’s Digital Hub Plan #778035
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    the obsession with height of the lack of it is whats wrong with the architectural deabate in this city…

    one on side we have the view…. lets keep everything low rise because its always been that way.. any benefits of a regenereration from a plan such as MPH for the digital hub are outweighed by the fact that its too tall…let let the area rot as long as its low rise????

    on the other side lets build anything as long as its tall… the location doesnt matter a damn

    while this bitch fest is going on developers are throwing up the most mundane and boring crap.. O2 building anyone? i was walking to work looking around and it dawned on me we have had the longest boom in modern history…. name 5 outstanding buildings that have been built in dublin in the past 10 years…!!!! cork and belfast will end up having a better skyline that the biggest wealthiest city in ireland

    quality should be at the forefront of the debate not height… a crap building is a crap building wheter its 5 or 50 stories

    in reply to: Little Italy ala Wallace. #777513
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    @a boyle wrote:

    if the bones were moved then i don’t really have a problem. after hundred of years these tombstones are no longer spiritual, in any sense, merely historical. It would be a good idea to stop ball games, but it is a nice space to pause and reflect , and i like it very much.

    i dont think anyone was ever exhumed thats the problem… i remember on a tour of St Michans some time ago which was the sister church of st Annes the guide specifically said that the bodies where still there. Anyway the tombstones have historical interest so instead of stacking then up or using them as paving ala Schindlers list could we not have them arranged so we can look at them?

    in reply to: Little Italy ala Wallace. #777511
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    hutton wrote:
    Yeah – it lacks engagement with abbey and – ironically – Jervis St on ground levels. Still, not the self-evident failure that Wolfe Tone Square is, post “regeneration”.

    Please DCC, admit the failure]

    I agree with the schindlers list comment.. i remember the first time i saw this i felt a bit uneasy… i think the table tennis table over graves while the tomb stones are stacked up is in bad taste..
    would it not be an idea to reinstate the grave stones…

    in reply to: ILAC centre #731992
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    i see that the flats in dominick street are to be pulled down has anyone seen what is going up in there place?

    in reply to: O’ Connell Street, Dublin #730003
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    Speaking of missing clocks check out the one on the building with the wind vane… the fact that it is missing it clock and the general condition of one of the most interesting buildings in dublin is a shame.. this building would look fantastic if it was given some TLC.. i know this discussion hasbeen had before but surely the owners shopuld be forced or incentivised to reburish there buildings.

    in reply to: O’ Connell Street, Dublin #729944
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    @ake wrote:

    It’s a stupid idea to let any politically minded northerners out of their cage. How come scotland can ban marches?

    as a nordey i take great offence to this…. why are all nordeys being lumped in with idiots who feel the need to march in areas that they arent wanted… last time i looked there were about half the population of the north who classed them selves as irish and would be horrified to be linked to the orange marchers…

    anyway as much as it pains me to say it (and it really does pain me) the trouble in Dublin was started by the scumbags of this city who not only embrassed the decent people that live in this city and are proud of it where ever they are orgianlly from but this whole country and give the nasty little orange bigots the biggest propaganda coup they could wish for.

    in reply to: Henrietta Street #775219
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    The condition of Henrietta St is a disgrace as is the condition of most of the Georgian Northside. Is any one awayre of any plans to regenerate these areas?

    in reply to: Liffey Cable Cars – Pointless Gimmick or…. #766774
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    @Graham Hickey wrote:

    Indeed this project in itself is a real modern OIRISH concept: vulgar, flashy, built for a quick buck by the private sector, and with little consideration for both its wider and longer term environmental impact.

    If it’s so beneficial to the city then why isn’t the City Council proposing to build it as a nice little earner for itself?

    u hit the nail on the head!…

    this is a really stupid idea the way to see a city is to walk around it not pass over the roofs of it.

    in reply to: Loop Line Bridge – specifically the ads… #723209
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    i think painting the bridge some neutral colour wont work for a number of reasons. Firstly any attempt to hide it wont work as it is simply to big and ugly. Secondly it would get dirty very quickly and look awful.

    The bridge is there, it spoils the view of the custom house no matter what way it is painted, so why not paint it in a strong colour, flood light it and make a feature of it as fine piece of Victorain engineering which despite all its faults is a pert of the streetscape now after 150 Years

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