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it really is heart breaking to see the buildings we have lost…when you see what we pulled down in the past maybe we should be more careful than those in the past . I know the building that has been discussed already is far from the best Georgian in Dublin but should we at not reconsider having it pulled down?

its good to see the Northern Georgian area of the city getting some attention… hopefully in time we will see the whole area getting a much needed makeover

@Morlan wrote:

They will have to rip up the lower end of the street in order to build to subway station. Please god I hope they don’t cut-and-cover the whole of O’Connell St., uprooting the spire, etc. 😮

i cant see them using cut and cover not in o`connell st anywaycan you imagine the the disruption and uproar it would cause

@alpha wrote:

i would prefer the custom house dublin to city hall belfast any day. i myself don’t dislike city hall belfast though.

City hall in Belfast is a fine building , but not a patch on the Cutom House. the Custom house is such an elegant building despites it size …simply stunning

Hi
does anyone know anything about the fine portico in foley st.. it looks like it is the remans of a church or something

@jimg wrote:

I don’t see what’s to celebrate about nationalism. It’s basically a form of mild xenophobia presented as some sort of moral virtue. I find all nationalistic displays off-putting – not just American and British flag-waving and pompous smug self-congratulation but also the Irish version of it.

While mild nationalism has been used as a tool for some liberation movements to create popular support for independence, I don’t know of any other positive contribution that it has made to humankind. On the other hand I can think of many many instances when modern nationalism (i.e. the form which emerged in Europe in the early 19th century) was (and continues to be) used as a tool to create human suffering on an unprecendented scale.

I’d consider myself a human first and an Irish person second. I can’t deny the appeal of nationalism, having gone through a phase of being quite nationalistic myself for a few years but I actually hate it now. You don’t have to have militaristic displays, etc. in order to appreciate Irish history, culture and identity.

Suggesting that celebrating nationalism will be a sign of our self-confidence as a nation makes little sense to me. It seems to me that it’s a lack of self-confidence which encourages people to turn to nationalism. Historically this has been the case anyway (think of Germany between the wars). It’s almost and admission that there’s little or nothing to celebrate about Ireland except the fact that we happened to be born here. Everyone in the world was born in some country – there’s nothing unique about been born anywhere. When we had no self-confidence as an independent country, we seemed to spend considerable energy “celebrating” our nationalism. Thankfully these days, people expend their energies on more productive and socially rewarding persuits. You still have the option of following a football team if you need a dose of flag waving, emblems and feeling part of an arbitrary group.

i think maybe the issue is patriotism not nationalism.. I think despite our problems we have a huge amount to be proud of. What is wrong with celebrating the event that helped set us on the road to independednce and at the same time deprive the shinners of another publicity stunt. As for ireland as a Banana republic, well its one I am happy to live in!

@Graham Hickey wrote:

Quite the opposite ihateawake – it seems to be dead in the Liffey’s water.

it a real pity that corner is such a mess at the minute and that proposla looked really well