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  • #749180
    Morlan
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    I hope not. It’s quite a tacky name to be honest – like New York’s ‘Freedom’ Tower.

    #749181
    gregos
    Participant

    Hawkins House is certainly appalling, but surely it doesn’t deserve the title of Dublin’s worst building? That must belong to O’Connell Bridge House.

    #749182
    GrahamH
    Participant

    If you put Hawkins on the O’Connell site, you might think differently 😉

    #749183
    ihateawake
    Participant

    32 story at heuston isnt called eire tower, its “heuston gate”
    eire tower is a fantasy building that never got much attention…. eire tower
    how likely is a high rise in this site?

    #749184
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Not very I would imagine, if it comes down, it will be a chance not to make the same mistake again.

    #749185
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @source for “Eire Tower” wrote:

    Name: éireTower
    City: Dublin
    Country: Ireland
    Illustrator: Buck McAllister
    Status: fantasy
    Finished: 2007
    Floors: 41
    Use: mixed use
    Antenna:
    Spire: 174.1 m
    Roof: 160.4 m

    Interesting that the OPW have vetoed the first of the land swaps mooted and given this result which I would say is the correct one; you have wonder as to the status of the accelerated disposal programme of sites to be swapped for social/affordable housing that was announced with great fanfare only a short time ago.

    #749186
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    i would hope that a newer building on this site would be the same height or higher again.

    #749187
    Morlan
    Participant

    @alpha wrote:

    i would hope that a newer building on this site would be the same height or higher again.

    This is an awfully cramped area of the city and it doesn’t look like Hawkin’s fugly sister, An Post, is going to be demolished anytime soon. Had both buildings been pencilled for demolishment then a whole city block could have been developed into something worth while.

    As for the replacement structure, I’m not sure anything above the current height of Hawkins is going to look great here. Ulster Bank has already sealed the deal in relation to maximum height in this area of the quays. What a shame.. 🙁

    #749188
    fergalr
    Participant

    Pencil Please

    Goodbye Hawkin House
    Though we never liked you at all
    You were the thing that placed itself
    Where Dublin was torn apart
    You called out to our city
    And you whispered to those in pain
    “Haha, tough luck, pal
    I’m an architectural shame”

    And it seems to me you lived your life
    Like a suicidal in the wind
    Ever fading with the sunset
    When the rain set in
    And your footplate will always fall here
    Though we’ll rebuild-oh yes we will
    Your design burned out long before
    Your infamy ever will

    Loveliness we’ve lost
    These empty days with your pile
    This torch we’ll always carry
    When we burn you to the ground
    And even though we try
    The truth brings us to tears
    All our words cannot express
    The hurt you brought us through the years

    And it seems to me you lived your life
    Like a suicidal in the wind
    Ever fading with the sunset
    When the rain set in
    And your footplate will always fall here
    Though we’ll rebuild-oh yes we will
    Your design burned out long before
    Your infamy ever will

    Goodbye Hawkin House
    No we never liked you at all you
    You were the thing that placed itself
    Where Dublin was torn apart
    Goodbye Hawkin House
    From a country delighted you are gone
    Who’ll miss nothing about you
    When the demolitions blow

    And it seems to me you lived your life
    Like a suicidal in the wind
    Ever fading with the sunset
    When the rain set in
    And your footplate will always fall here
    Though we’ll rebuild-oh yes we will
    Your design burned out long before
    Your infamy ever will

    #749189
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Impressive attempt Fergal, alas we’re rather conveniently out of propeller pencils at the minute. Found these at the back of the stock room though – congratulations!

    #749190
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Graham Hickey wrote:

    Impressive attempt Fergal, alas we’re rather conveniently out of propeller pencils at the minute. Found these at the back of the stock room though – congratulations!

    Methinks there be a shortage of the milk of human kindness.

    #749191
    Devin
    Participant

    I don’t mind Hawkins House too much. Maybe it should be kept; if all buildings from this time are demolished/changed, we won’t have any record of what buildings from this time looked like.

    #749192
    aj
    Participant
    Devin wrote:
    I don’t mind Hawkins House too much. Maybe it should be kept]

    the same arguement could be used for small pox…flatten that pile and lets dance on the rubble

    #749193
    dodger
    Participant

    I honestly cannot comprehend for one second (and i’ve tried) how anybody could see the slightest redeeming factor in hawkins street house. Some people like the loop line, some the screen college green, but how anybody can think this building acceptable is beyond me.

    #749194
    Richards
    Participant

    In Britain certain so called Sixties Monstrosities are now preserved. The Centre Point tower at the end of Oxford Street is one example.

    #749195
    jimg
    Participant

    Just replacing Hawkins House wont do a huge deal for that area of town. The An Post office building is, in my opinion, just as ugly and visually damaging. Hawkins House is mostly “contained” on its site. While I’ve a soft spot for the Screen cinema because I was a frequent patron, the way it’s set back from the street destroys the screetscape from many angles. For example, it would be just about possible to visually “terminate” Fleet St. if there was a properly shaped corner building on that the screen site. A curved corner building would have symmetry with the Garda Station, Doyles pub and the ever changing corner resteraunt at the Townsend end of D’Olier Street. I know currently there’s a vital traffic artery running through it but, who knows, maybe in a decade or so, that “square” of Dublin could be pedestrianised.

    I won’t be chaining myself to Hawkins House if the wrecking balls arrive but I would have like to have seen one of the Ballymun towers refurbished and retained.

    #749196
    Rory W
    Participant

    Get rid of Hawkins house – it’s fucking rubbish

    Keep O’Connell Bridge house and restore Libery Hall – the best of the 60s

    #749197
    Frank Taylor
    Participant

    @dodger wrote:

    I honestly cannot comprehend for one second (and i’ve tried) how anybody could see the slightest redeeming factor in hawkins street house. Some people like the loop line, some the screen college green, but how anybody can think this building acceptable is beyond me.

    It’s very well located and must have good views. I’d be happy to live or work there.

    Is this building brutalist?

    Anyone know the story of how it got planning permission? Was permission granted around the same time as O’Connell Bridge House?

    #749198
    Rory W
    Participant

    @Frank Taylor wrote:

    Is this building brutalist?

    No just brutal

    It’s a very very poor example of 60’s architecture at it was “designed” prior to the 1963 planning regulations

    #749199
    Devin
    Participant

    @Rory W wrote:

    Get rid of Hawkins house – it’s fucking rubbish

    Keep O’Connell Bridge house and restore Libery Hall – the best of the 60s

    Interestingly, though, the latter two have both had alterations, while Hawkins House is a completely unaltered example of its time.
    (O’Connell Bridge House had alterations to its windows and mullions in the ’90s, and the original transparent glass of Liberty Hall was replaced with mirror glass after a bomb in the ’70s.)

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