goodbye hawkins house
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- August 5, 2005 at 12:24 am #749180
Morlan
ParticipantI hope not. It’s quite a tacky name to be honest – like New York’s ‘Freedom’ Tower.
August 5, 2005 at 1:05 am #749181gregos
ParticipantHawkins House is certainly appalling, but surely it doesn’t deserve the title of Dublin’s worst building? That must belong to O’Connell Bridge House.
August 5, 2005 at 1:08 am #749182GrahamH
ParticipantIf you put Hawkins on the O’Connell site, you might think differently 😉
August 5, 2005 at 2:39 am #749183ihateawake
Participant32 story at heuston isnt called eire tower, its “heuston gate”
eire tower is a fantasy building that never got much attention…. eire tower
how likely is a high rise in this site?August 5, 2005 at 4:30 am #749184Paul Clerkin
KeymasterNot very I would imagine, if it comes down, it will be a chance not to make the same mistake again.
August 5, 2005 at 10:19 am #749185Anonymous
Inactive@source for “Eire Tower” wrote:
Name: éireTower
City: Dublin
Country: Ireland
Illustrator: Buck McAllister
Status: fantasy
Finished: 2007
Floors: 41
Use: mixed use
Antenna:
Spire: 174.1 m
Roof: 160.4 mInteresting that the OPW have vetoed the first of the land swaps mooted and given this result which I would say is the correct one; you have wonder as to the status of the accelerated disposal programme of sites to be swapped for social/affordable housing that was announced with great fanfare only a short time ago.
August 5, 2005 at 9:46 pm #749186Anonymous
Inactivei would hope that a newer building on this site would be the same height or higher again.
August 6, 2005 at 3:20 am #749187Morlan
Participant@alpha wrote:
i would hope that a newer building on this site would be the same height or higher again.
This is an awfully cramped area of the city and it doesn’t look like Hawkin’s fugly sister, An Post, is going to be demolished anytime soon. Had both buildings been pencilled for demolishment then a whole city block could have been developed into something worth while.
As for the replacement structure, I’m not sure anything above the current height of Hawkins is going to look great here. Ulster Bank has already sealed the deal in relation to maximum height in this area of the quays. What a shame.. 🙁
November 30, 2005 at 4:21 pm #749188fergalr
ParticipantPencil Please
Goodbye Hawkin House
Though we never liked you at all
You were the thing that placed itself
Where Dublin was torn apart
You called out to our city
And you whispered to those in pain
“Haha, tough luck, pal
I’m an architectural shame”And it seems to me you lived your life
Like a suicidal in the wind
Ever fading with the sunset
When the rain set in
And your footplate will always fall here
Though we’ll rebuild-oh yes we will
Your design burned out long before
Your infamy ever willLoveliness we’ve lost
These empty days with your pile
This torch we’ll always carry
When we burn you to the ground
And even though we try
The truth brings us to tears
All our words cannot express
The hurt you brought us through the yearsAnd it seems to me you lived your life
Like a suicidal in the wind
Ever fading with the sunset
When the rain set in
And your footplate will always fall here
Though we’ll rebuild-oh yes we will
Your design burned out long before
Your infamy ever willGoodbye Hawkin House
No we never liked you at all you
You were the thing that placed itself
Where Dublin was torn apart
Goodbye Hawkin House
From a country delighted you are gone
Who’ll miss nothing about you
When the demolitions blowAnd it seems to me you lived your life
Like a suicidal in the wind
Ever fading with the sunset
When the rain set in
And your footplate will always fall here
Though we’ll rebuild-oh yes we will
Your design burned out long before
Your infamy ever willNovember 30, 2005 at 6:45 pm #749189GrahamH
ParticipantImpressive attempt Fergal, alas we’re rather conveniently out of propeller pencils at the minute. Found these at the back of the stock room though – congratulations!
November 30, 2005 at 6:55 pm #749190Anonymous
Inactive@Graham Hickey wrote:
Impressive attempt Fergal, alas we’re rather conveniently out of propeller pencils at the minute. Found these at the back of the stock room though – congratulations!

Methinks there be a shortage of the milk of human kindness.
December 1, 2005 at 4:30 am #749191Devin
ParticipantI don’t mind Hawkins House too much. Maybe it should be kept; if all buildings from this time are demolished/changed, we won’t have any record of what buildings from this time looked like.
December 1, 2005 at 11:07 am #749192aj
ParticipantDevin wrote:I don’t mind Hawkins House too much. Maybe it should be kept]the same arguement could be used for small pox…flatten that pile and lets dance on the rubble
December 1, 2005 at 11:16 am #749193dodger
ParticipantI honestly cannot comprehend for one second (and i’ve tried) how anybody could see the slightest redeeming factor in hawkins street house. Some people like the loop line, some the screen college green, but how anybody can think this building acceptable is beyond me.
December 1, 2005 at 3:46 pm #749194Richards
ParticipantIn Britain certain so called Sixties Monstrosities are now preserved. The Centre Point tower at the end of Oxford Street is one example.
December 1, 2005 at 4:09 pm #749195jimg
ParticipantJust replacing Hawkins House wont do a huge deal for that area of town. The An Post office building is, in my opinion, just as ugly and visually damaging. Hawkins House is mostly “contained” on its site. While I’ve a soft spot for the Screen cinema because I was a frequent patron, the way it’s set back from the street destroys the screetscape from many angles. For example, it would be just about possible to visually “terminate” Fleet St. if there was a properly shaped corner building on that the screen site. A curved corner building would have symmetry with the Garda Station, Doyles pub and the ever changing corner resteraunt at the Townsend end of D’Olier Street. I know currently there’s a vital traffic artery running through it but, who knows, maybe in a decade or so, that “square” of Dublin could be pedestrianised.
I won’t be chaining myself to Hawkins House if the wrecking balls arrive but I would have like to have seen one of the Ballymun towers refurbished and retained.
December 1, 2005 at 4:13 pm #749196Rory W
ParticipantGet rid of Hawkins house – it’s fucking rubbish
Keep O’Connell Bridge house and restore Libery Hall – the best of the 60s
December 1, 2005 at 4:15 pm #749197Frank Taylor
Participant@dodger wrote:
I honestly cannot comprehend for one second (and i’ve tried) how anybody could see the slightest redeeming factor in hawkins street house. Some people like the loop line, some the screen college green, but how anybody can think this building acceptable is beyond me.
It’s very well located and must have good views. I’d be happy to live or work there.
Is this building brutalist?
Anyone know the story of how it got planning permission? Was permission granted around the same time as O’Connell Bridge House?
December 1, 2005 at 4:24 pm #749198Rory W
Participant@Frank Taylor wrote:
Is this building brutalist?
No just brutal
It’s a very very poor example of 60’s architecture at it was “designed” prior to the 1963 planning regulations
December 1, 2005 at 5:30 pm #749199Devin
Participant@Rory W wrote:
Get rid of Hawkins house – it’s fucking rubbish
Keep O’Connell Bridge house and restore Libery Hall – the best of the 60s
Interestingly, though, the latter two have both had alterations, while Hawkins House is a completely unaltered example of its time.
(O’Connell Bridge House had alterations to its windows and mullions in the ’90s, and the original transparent glass of Liberty Hall was replaced with mirror glass after a bomb in the ’70s.) - AuthorPosts
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