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Dude, the quotes were a mistake. not sure why I put them there ( but read the paranthesis later on why I had to copy and paste).
Nothing meant by it. I did miss that you mentioned my previous post and I thought you had brought up the subject without reference to my previous post. nevertheless you probably need to take a chill pill not me 🙂
(As an aside here your name is hard work for a forum. It lends to being copied and pasted, since nobody would have a clue to it’s actual spelling without looking at it – and copy and paste is easier; and nor can it be shortened easily. Someone called FooBar, to pick a name, can be shortened to FB, but it is hard to know what to do with you. )
Should the statues of those ‘nasty’ emperors be sent back to italy for example?
People forget with time, in any case Roman imperialism was not extreme in Britain, at all, and non-existant in Germany. The fact is – too – we celebrate English leaders we like. Gladstone for instance has a few streets named after him – and generally in places where the main street has been changed to an Irish patriot.
( Had the house of lords not rejected his Home Rule proposals, we would almost certainly now be in the UK).
With respect to the statues, I think they only bother people who let themselves be bothered by ’em. Isn’t one of the finest examples of Nazi architecture actually the former german embassy in London?
A building is not a statue. I imagine that the statue of Hitler, if any, ( and the pictures on the wall ) have been removed. And Nazi insignia too.
He means that Ireland may have a high per capita income compared to other counties but that because that income has risen only in recent years, we don’t have great infrastructural wealth built up over years of investment. OECD comparisons that have shown ireland to be rich in income terms don’t count the fact that money has only started flowing recently.
More than that: it is also an issue of how capital and wages are distributed in the country and how private wealth is also built up over time.
I explained most of this on page 1 of this thread but “ctesiphon” wont be told
https://archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=40077&postcount=9
As an addition to what I said there I noticed today, in the Irish Times business supplement on Germany, that Ireland’s average wages are 15K behind the German wages; even though our GDP per capital is about 15K greater than theirs. We tax wages more than capital – in fear that it will flee – and thus we are realistically income poorer than germany with less potential tax potential and practically no potential to increase taxes on the middle classes who have very little disposable income as is – with house and rent prices, creche care and rip off Ireland prices. In the long term I would prefer to be in Germany’s position.
we were part of the United Kingdom for over 500 years
For 121 years to be exact.
You tend to be loose with your terminology, for example
lthough Australia is still looking for it’s independance (which they turned down in a vote about five years ago, wanting to remain under Quenn Elizabeth’s rule),
They rejected a republic, but I am not sure whether that republic would have stayed part of the commonwealth, or not. In any case they are not ruled by Elizabeth, but by the local parliaments.
Given that the indigenous ( i.e pre-Norman) people in the Island were not that urban – we dont have much left, archictecturally, of Irish culture. There is NewGrange ( which may have been pre-Celtic), beehive churches, a few cultural areas ( i.e. Tara) and the Rock of Cashel, monastic remains, and round towers. I may be missing stuff. If we rejected colonial architecture we would reject most of Irish castles, and churches ( as Norman). And most things since.
As it happens I prefer the older stuff, but I am partial to a norman castle nevertheless 🙂
Also, there used to be a telegraph tower on Dalkey Hill, between Vico and Sorrento Road…not sure if it still stands.
Probably conerted into a spacious 300 sq feet studio. A positive steal at 1 million euro.
Ya – one has to feel sorry for the Brits – history doesn’t seem to be their strong point. I have heard of people having difficulties getting over broken relationships, but this is taking it a bit too far. I really would love to hear their rationalization of this!
While I have verbally smacked people on this board for saying that the Wide Street commision was British ( it was Anglo Irish, or just Irish), I think the British have a claim on Trinity which was a State project, not a City Project. The Queen of England, Ireland, and France ordered it built, and I assume paid for it.
There is the Martello Tower in Sutton which is just at the start ( or end) of the Howth hill walk. I passed it last weekend. That one was sold for about 500K ( ish) within the last year. It is one of the few houses in Dublin recently that had to reduce price – as it was originally offerred at 700K.
500K is within middle income salaries but the tower seems impractical for a family. As for views there isn’t much in the way of windows.
Thats not even half the point of the interconnector, alpha. It’s about integrating all lines into Dublin into an electrified commuter DART service. Go read the website I posted.
PDLL, you need to go to the Platform11 site. They are supporting a “Dart Metro” option for Dublin ( they call it the Interconnector, but they need to promote their terminology more). The actual metro would cost more and achieve less.
WE obviously never learn.
Isn’t the piece you linked too an example of how we are learning – at least the government is – the construction industry is not. Is that what you mean.
Lets get some terms correct. Ireland is newly “rich” but the “wealth” is just an increase in GDP per-capita. With the more correct ( for Ireland) GNP per capita we are 20% less “rich” in real terms. Even there you would have to take into account how income ( not wealth) is distributed – as median wage levels are always less than GDP/GNP per capita, and how much less tells you how much income is pushed to profit, not wages. Ireland is fast becoming a lowish wage economy, in fact. IT ( and other knowledge based) jobs do not register on the private sector jobs produced each year list – in fact construction dominates, and although well paid, is notoriously cyclical. Retail is next.
In any case even if equally distributed GDP per capita is not a reflection of the wealth of an economy, but it’s earnings. Imaging two 60 year olds both paid 100K a year ( to define a good “rich” wage). One of those 60 year olds was earning the equivalent of 100K ( more, or less) for 40 years and invested it, in his house and elsewhere. The other was earning a pittance for most of his life. Who has the bigger better house, with better furniture?
Ireland’s public wealth is insignificant as we were income poor for so long.
I would be inclined to agree somewhat with this statement
It is my opinion that this is one of the reasons that Ireland is incapable of coherent and systematic infrastructural development as the exact opposite mentality exists [ private greed]
except the US has a great public road system, but then I think that the US just after the war was a different society than today.
The plans seem like a sensible addition to what we have, regardless of architectural merit, which is not obvious from the diagrams. I dont see it as a mess, but neat.
I presume they need more runways as well to cater for this capacity?
it’s like the port tunnel. they start to build it, then all of a sudden… “oh no it won’t take super trucks”. i bet you anything they will make a mess of the airport too.
That meme will never die, will it? The designers knew about super trucks, had aboring machine which didn’t handle the height, knew that SuperTrucks are illegal on most roads, in Ireland and anywhere else, and were 3% of the total of trucks hauled ( worldwide, I think, rather than here). Andof course had they built to accomdate SuperTrucks, a newer bigger super truck would have come along and caused more sneering.
The sensible thing was to do as they did. Of course Dublin Airport should handle larger aircraft – a different kettle of fish.
I see no evidence of that in most of the threads I read and subscribe to( generally the Dublin ones). In fact they are uniformly informative and polite.There is always vigorous debate on the internet, however.
aLl the articles in property supplements are basically advertisements. Sometimes they are right beside the actual advertisments, and have mostly the same text.
I think the new stuff is probably going to be better looking than the original IFSC development, though, but that is not saying much.
Yes that’s the logical conclusion but there is some truth is asdasd’s claims. Developments directed by the DDDA are about as interesting to the public as extensions to City West or Parkwest; i.e. not very
Not just the general public, but the interested parties who also post here. The provincial guys have all kinds of photos of new developments in their two enormous threads – state of Cork, and Shannonside – sometimes the stuff is good, sometimes terrible. The new tall buildings along the Shannon in bishops quay, turn up all the time. Nobody has bothered in this forum to go down to photograph anything in Spencer Dock (mostly uncomplete) or the Grand Canal ( heading towards completion). I was down in the Grand Canal area recently and was neither annoyed nor impressed by anything much, so I wont be back with a camera.
If there was anything of interest it would have a thread with detractors, and apologists, but nothing, nada, no interest.
The lack of height in the Grand Canal docks, or Spencer Dock is what makes them boring. no-one cares one way or the other what goes on there, it seems. No thread has been posted here on the on-going developements. Unlike the spire thread which went to a thousand posts
While Morlan’s picture shows how amazing college green would be with little or no traffic, on the minus side it has to be admitted that the BOI could have done with a wash. Swings and roundabouts.
