dublin airport terminal
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The location of the new terminal seems sensible to me; what I don’t get is how are we going to get to pier d, that long curved walkway won’t take a travellator will it?
will this cut off all airside views of the original building?
The plans seem like a sensible addition to what we have, regardless of architectural merit, which is not obvious from the diagrams. I dont see it as a mess, but neat.
I presume they need more runways as well to cater for this capacity?
it’s like the port tunnel. they start to build it, then all of a sudden… “oh no it won’t take super trucks”. i bet you anything they will make a mess of the airport too.
That meme will never die, will it? The designers knew about super trucks, had aboring machine which didn’t handle the height, knew that SuperTrucks are illegal on most roads, in Ireland and anywhere else, and were 3% of the total of trucks hauled ( worldwide, I think, rather than here). Andof course had they built to accomdate SuperTrucks, a newer bigger super truck would have come along and caused more sneering.
The sensible thing was to do as they did. Of course Dublin Airport should handle larger aircraft – a different kettle of fish.
a sensible thing to do would be to build extra large just in case. get things right at the begining. think things through properly. it is mad that in london for example some of the tube lines don’t allow much room between the train and the roof of the tunnel.
It’s a pity Dublin Airport is such a sprawling mess of various buildings – as a result it is largely not possible for the complex to feature a purpose-built ‘iconic’ structure, we just have to live with that.
The closest we could get to it I suppose is in the designing of the new Terminal 2 in a manner that the existing main Terminal 1 building can eventually be re-clad/designed in a complementary fashion…
Of course the question of the day is – what’s going to happen to the fondly-held Corballis House?!
Suggestions of moving it are more than just a little bizarre…
Surely half the charm of this building is that it has remained intact on its orginal site in the midst of all the development buzzing about around it?…so at least if we can’t have ‘landmark’ architecture, we can do eh, ‘unusual’.
I thought everyone knew of this house Paul – certainly well-liked by family and people I know.
Clearly you never watched the Toy Show – it was the highlight of the evening every year, still they stopped doing those Christmas lights VTs that is 🙁Makes for an interesting feature in the grounds too – brings home to you how the whole complex was nothing but fields not too long ago.
I know the house – doesnt mean that it is fondly held – I think you assume too much of the airport users
Maybe…
Looking at the DAA press release, the new terminal is pictured as sited just to the left of the house in the picture above, but it expands way out beyond its main facade, essentially blocking it off.
At least it’s not sited in the middle of the proposed building – maybe they can cut a chunk out of the corner to put it crudely.Saying that, it’s also possible the renderings do not highlight the reality that the new terminal will in fact be larger than that pictured, and that it was curtailed to the boundary of the house for the press conference, lest there be any hullabaloo generated by the house’s very existance being wiped from the maps…
Graham Hickey wrote:we just have to live with that. QUOTE]We all have to live with and put up with too much in this country as it is. There seems to be too many excuses. We can’t have that because… and so on. It is so unfair.
a sensible thing to do would be to build extra large just in case. get things right at the begining. think things through properly. it is mad that in london for example some of the tube lines don’t allow much room between the train and the roof of the tunnel
alpha, you have to remember that some of the tube lines in London were built either over a hundred years ago or else during the aftermath of two world wars, but I do agree, everything should be made bigger “just in case”. If Aer Lingus have big plans for opening up long haul routes from Dublin, then they should suggest to the DAA that they don’t want to operate in an airport that can’t accomadate large aircraft. If the airport wants to open it’s self up to the world and act as a “gateway” then their gonna have to do better. The airport wont be viable in the future if it can’t cater for modern planes….. Boeing 747’s are already outdated, with the larger airlines like British Airways, Lufthansa and Emirites replacing a portion of their 747 fleet with the new Airbus A380. I just think that the DAA should think more along the lines of Heathrow and Charles de Gaulle, instead of just fixing an overcrowding problem, they should be thinking of the airports growth aswell.
exaclty. i guess if they are going to spend billions on these things they should do them right. we really do overspend in this country and sometimes with disastrous results. the m50 should have been built with more lanes all them years ago.
I don’t understand why they have to raise the landing charge by 50% (from e5 to e 7.5). After all the terminal is due to cost only 200 million and the extra 15 million passengers will pay 75million in charges a year at the current rate!
The digram in the Irish Times appears to show a yellow line in front of the Desmond Fitzgearld building, does any one know what this implies, it is as if it is indicating alteration to the ground floor of the building. Also any opinions on how the new buildings will impact on the original terminal.
As regards Corballis House I would think of it fondly, and I believe that opinion is shaired, Pat Liddy the Dublin artist and historion considers it worthy of an entry in his first book “Dublin Today”, it contains an illistation and potted history of the house. Well worth a look.
crestfield, Thats a curved walkway, designed by skidmore/owens/merril. It and pier D already have planning permission.
so i said this already but i am amazed there has been less discussion on the topic:
a) a curved walkway means no moving walkway!
b) it appears to obscure the airside view of the old terminal!notjim, I remember reading a description a few years ago of the walkway. I think I rcall it is to be elevated, so probably more slender and less obtrusive than one fears (the grahpic in the presentation is’nt great, is it). Thats all I can remember sorry. Pier D is designed for Low Cost Airlines, so I guess travelators are’nt important to Michael O leary et al, but I expect there will be such along the straight part of the pier of course.
http://www.capitasymonds.co.uk/projects/content/projects_696.asp?print=1
I think this might be what you’re referring to……but i think its the wrong way around to work in the new design.
God, imagine the hike from one end of the new airport to the next….imagine flying into the existing Pier B from somewhere European to connect to a new “long haul” onward flight leaving from the new Northern Extension, and having to walk all the way there. Maybe a mini transit system should be investigated. I know, say transit to the powers that be and its “ugh, eh, eek, hmmm, arggh…” but surely they could do small scale……surely.
No, actually I dont trust them. 😡
I definitly heard of a walkway by SOM, maybe the media got it wrong. I know they also did a report but im sure I heard of them doing a curved walkway aswell. That other design looks ok, doenent ruin the old terminal. Not mad on the suspension design though.Imagine seeing the old terminal lit up at night from that walkway. Another thing that concerns me from the presentations timescale list is that it looks like the road system will be the last phase to be built. How daft is that? Ariel photo:
http://perljam.net/google-satellite-maps/id/4887/Ireland//Dublin/Dublin_International_Airport
@crestfield wrote:
The digram in the Irish Times appears to show a yellow line in front of the Desmond Fitzgearld building, does any one know what this implies, it is as if it is indicating alteration to the ground floor of the building. Also any opinions on how the new buildings will impact on the original terminal.
Yeah it does look like the ground floor of the original terminal is to be further compromised. Howver these are only site models so we’ll have to reserve architectural opiniojn until furthe rimages are released.
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