Dublin skyline
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It looks ok I guess. It’s actually a bit bigger than Heuston Gate. What is it with 32 floors? The whole docklands was a wasted opportunity for high density so they should be making up for it with 40/60 story buildings where ever they can 🙂
Has a certain Birminghamesque look about. Not really the way to go in terms of high-rise building. Agree with the commentator who said we are about 50 years behind in this area. It will look like another LIberty Hall in 20 years time. Scary.
I think it was Frank Taylor who said in a previous contribution that many high rises are just one floor multiplied by X. This building is a classis example of that type of building. If we are going to build high-rises, we should strive for better than this. With proposals like this is it any wonder that Ireland’s flat earth society gets so hot under the collar when they hear the word high-rise.
In a previous contribution on the issue of high-rises, I asked were there any people out there who had worked or lived in high-rise buildings (by this I mean anything over 15 floors) so as to comment on the human experience of high-rise living/working. Oddly enough, only one contributor responded with some anecdotal experiences. Maybe I should rephrase the question – how many Irish architects currently working on/planning high-rise buildings have actually lived/worked in one for a substantial period of time. Maybe – in the interests of our architectural future – all architects and planners who propose/develop such buildings should be made work/live in one for a period of a year so that they can fully understand how best to design them.
Yep …I worked on Madison Avenue in NY in the 80s and on the building of Canada House in London around the same time. The panoramic views of the cities and surrounding landscapes were great and I realised there and then that we Irish come from a land of leprecauns with vertigo.
are there images for the buidling supposed to replace hawkins house? has any step been taken in its planning? when will hawkins house be demolished?
i’d like to know that too. the sooner they knock that one the better. when they knock that they should move on to apollo and college house. i have never seen any images of it’s replacement although i did see images of the redevelopment that was meant to happen to it. i guess it was the department’s plans to relocate that quashed that one. oh well.
@ihateawake wrote:
are there images for the buidling supposed to replace hawkins house? has any step been taken in its planning? when will hawkins house be demolished?
Oh I doubt it. AFAIK they only put the building up for slaughter last January. Now, if only An Post would resign their ugly sister building to the bulldozer, we could see one massive development on these two plots.
Does anybody want to see another 15 floor block here or would you prefer something more like 6 floors?
Personally, I’d like to see something of a similar height or taller in it’s place. To be honest , I’ll be sorry to see it go. We don’t have enough Stalinist landmarks in Dublin as it is!
i think it should be replaced with something of the same height or taller. either would do.
It is not the place for tall buildings. Something 6-8 stories. In any case there is no certainty that it is being replaced.
they could put a small park area in there if they wanted to but it would be very over shadowed due to all the tall buildings around it. it is a dark area plus it is very built up. is there talk of opening up an area near there anyway?
I have to say I agree with alpha’s first remark. Keep that area tall. We don’t need another 6 storey building. Dublin has too many of those already and not enough highrises. That area has been tall for nearly 40 years.
I had a good look at this quay the other day from the Matt Talbot and really and truly it is the most horrendous, mediocre, incoherent pile of rubbish in Dublin city centre. You tend to aviod looking at it at the best of times, so it was quite an effort to observe it for more than a few seconds!
With the exception of the Corn Exchange. the Georgians next to O’Connell Bridge House and the Dutch-style Victorian on the corner, I’d like to see all of Burgh Quay completely flattened, including Poolbeg St as far back as Pearse St.
This entire city block is filled with the greatest collection of rubbish that it is nothing short of an architectural landfill.
Likewise George’s Quay out to be levelled.Not that any of this is remotely possible to achieve, but it would be great to be able to redefine the centre of Dublin with some decent architecture lining this important stretch of the Liffey – linking the old city with the new city as it does.
It is difficult alright on density grounds to knock a tall building and replace it with a lower one, but I think that Hawkins ought not be rebuilt to that height – rather a six-storey structure ought to go back in here to restore the height of this area and reflect that of the inner city at large.It is not pleasant to see tall buildings rising out from behind the traditional height of Burgh Quay – it is this more than anything that causes the present mess I think, whatever about the design of the crap that’s there like Hawkins or the Irish Press.
Burgh and George’s Quays are a disaster at present with all the rubbish that’s there, the mixture of ‘styles’, the gaping wound of the Loop Line smashing through the terrace, the Loop Line bridge itself cutting the view of the old city off from the IFSC & Docklands, and of course the dross that is the Ulster Bank flanking the Liffey – definitely a contender for the Ugliest title on the other thread.
@Graham Hickey wrote:
I had a good look at this quay the other day from the Matt Talbot and really and truly it is the most horrendous, mediocre, incoherent pile of rubbish in Dublin city centre. You tend to aviod looking at it at the best of times, so it was quite an effort to observe it for more than a few seconds!
With the exception of the Corn Exchange. the Georgians next to O’Connell Bridge House and the Dutch-style Victorian on the corner, I’d like to see all of Burgh Quay completely flattened, including Poolbeg St as far back as Pearse St.
This entire city block is filled with the greatest collection of rubbish that it is nothing short of an architectural landfill.You philistine – the second best pub in the world is in that block and you want it demolished?
I just knew someone would reply with that!! 😀
I’m going to preserve it in a glass case in the marble-lined foyer I have planned 🙂
Well at least I had some originally 😀
Obviously I refer to the other rubbish on this street – as if I could bring myself to hack down that gem of a place (though have never been inside admittedly 😮 ). Anywhere that has sashes surviving that long in this country is worthy of a blue plaque.
Sweet jesus. You’re just digging a bigger and better hole – how can you not ever been in Mulligans? 🙂
anyways back on topic, I don’t think any concrete proposals re Hawkins House have been made – purely aspirational on the part of the OPW with the exception of a makeover suggested some years back.
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