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@rumpelstiltskin wrote:
I know it’s only pavement, but in all honestly the members of Dublin City Council should be brutally tortured to death one by one. I call on all civic-minded psychopaths to start the ball rolling.
a public stoning perhaps:confused:
tommytParticipant@Peter Fitz wrote:
yes it is, otherwise we’ll be having the same discussion / competition in 50 years when whatever ‘form’ is inserted meets the scorn of the next generation wearing their 2060 tinted goggles.
Fully endorsed. What has stood the test of time better post-WW II bombardment; the continental or British approach to rebuilding? Simplistic litmus test but one which stands up imo.
tommytParticipant@SunnyDub wrote:
I prefer Macken Street bridge name…but then I’m a south-sider
As I’ve already stated ,you even number hogging steamers it’s gonna be the HAUGHEY FAMILY MEMORIAL PSEUDO HARP THOROUGHFARE TO GAELDOM. It will speed all bona fide childer of erin tothe heart of Hibernia, decreasing the time proper god- fearing dwellers of D3,5 and 13 have to spend in Babylonian D2 and 4. Hopefully our progeny won’t pick up that stoopid 46A drawl if they can be spirited out of the region in a more efficient manner to feis ceoil in Gorey and the like.
De bleedin’ Dubs will need one less slash stop as the coaches from Parnell Park make it to witness the hockeyin’ of Loch Garman in next year’s Leinster championship1st round. Wurth 80 mill of tax payers’ moolah any day.tommytParticipant@missarchi wrote:
So are we offering odds on who is going to cut the ribbon or smash the champagne?
Opening delayed until 2011 to allow our newly elected , glorious city mayor Bertie to do the honours. Sean Haughey, who will be vice-mayor and have led a hugely successful campaign to get a plebiscite passed on the same day of the mayoral election will have secured a name change in memory of his dear old daddy.
tommytParticipantAhhhh me oul seogossiahs, the dear an’darlin’ chiseller wit his britches up in his oxters and the beeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutifull whoite wash. Is it Church st. and general environs ?? the big gable end on the right makes me thinkof Bow st. for some reason. In any event is it a street that has seen signficant rearrangement in the early photograohic era?
tommytParticipant@alonso wrote:
CJH and Big Sam? Both no longer with us
You have my full support if you wanna go piss on Neil Blaney’s grave as well if you’ve got the inkling for such behaviour.
tommytParticipant@johnglas wrote:
It’s hard being churlish about this and at least the externals are preserved, but is its conversion to ‘offices’ – however skilfully done – does still seem a loss of a valuable ‘public’ space. I do remember once having heard the bells ring out over North Dublin, but I suppose the Northside’s loss is Dundrum’s gain. What a home for small-scale music performances this would have made; I think there was such a proposal once, but the main objection was that Southside nobs would not park their Volvos in such an area. (!)
When it was relaunched as the Temple Theatre about 8/9 years ago I was at the opening night and I didn’t think it worked as an entertainment venue at all. the basement was a really awkward space and felt extremely claustrophobic and the main space had awful acoustics for amplified music. It would be preferable to see a civic or public admin use for the building but I don’t know if it could take over (for example) the role the Hugh Lane currently provides for small scale musical performances. Compared to the Black Church it is difficult to recycle as a secular space and it’s as decent an effort as could have been expected. Fabulous exterior job done for sure.
tommytParticipantLast I heard was the criminal assets bureau were involved in some way with those properties. CAB are usually quick to get this kind of thing on the open market but i presume there is some sort of legal challenge blocking the way
tommytParticipantESB to announce design competition to replace HQ?
http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=MAR116146
TITLE ATTRIBUTED TO THE CONTRACT BY THE CONTRACTING ENTITY: Design Contest
(Architectural).
ESB intends to publish an Design Contest (Architectural) notice in the
coming days relating to the development of a key site of approximately 1
hectare (2.5 acres) in the city centre of Dublin which is currently
occupied by the existing ESB Headquarters.
Interested parties should monitor the Official Journal of the European
Union ( see http://ted.europa.eu ) and Irish Government Public Sector
Procurement opportunities portal (http://www.etenders.gov.ie for this design
contest only), over the coming days to ensure that they do not miss this
opportunity.
CPV: 71000000.tommytParticipantpresume one of the pubs there was called that back in the day.
tommytParticipant@GregF wrote:
Can kinda blame the late Tony Gregory and Charlie Haughey (and the Gregory deal that was done) for the demolishment of these Georgian buildings and their replacement with the awful ‘suburban style’ social housing.
OK, folk in the inner city were living in squalor in these fine old but decrepit buildings (aka tenements) of yesteryear and they needed new homes, but architectural appreciation went out the window, as it would in the hands of the culturally ignorant idiots Fianna Fail and Tony Gregory.Their track records on understanding the architectural fabric, old and new, of Dublin City was appalling!
Hence we have Sean McDermott Street and Gardiner Street looking as they do today!
(Imagine something like that happening in Europe? ..Na, and any damage that was done there can be credited to the Luftwaffe and the RAF etc…. )
There wasn’t much appreciation of decaying Georgian Dublin within the general body of the architecture profession neither from what I have heard. An old urban design lecturer I had reckoned his whole class in the 60s in UCD hated the monotony and twee uniformity of the georgian terrace as they saw it. The same guy lived in a damp basement on upr Mount st at the time and wanted the whole D2 georgian core pulled down on health and safety grounds alone:rolleyes: I appreciate that is a bit of a stretch of a generalisation but it makes sense when you think of the protests by student architects against the destruction of Dublin are associated with the 80s onwards.
tommytParticipantI take your point. If you’re familiar with the concept of ‘geurilla gardening’ perhaps an new clandestine amateur urban joinery unit could tackle this faux pas!
tommytParticipantto be fair devin there’s not a whole lot fundamentally wrong with that imo-nothing irreversible or irritatingly chain branding about it-if you saw it in Amsterdam or Copenhagen people on here would be romancing about how it added to the gritty urban patina of an ever transforming neighbourhood etc…
Johnny Eagle’s tattoo parlour was/has been up there like Custer’ s last stand on that block for decades and whatever lease or ownership he held there possibly kept that terrace from the bulldozers that obliterated that whole city block- I’d allocate honorary urban design tastelessnes squatter’s rights to the terrace on this one 😉tommytParticipant@rashers wrote:
I’d say we’re of an age. Remember the Big Bear too in Talbot St.
The only Monument Creamery that I remember was the one in Parnell St on that stretch between O’Connell St and Marlborough St — about 3 or 4 doors from O’Connell St.
I never knew them to sell ice cream, but I do remember they sold milk, butter and were well known for their hot buttered eggs. In fact at the time I’m remembering TB patients used to receive a voucher for milk, butter and eggs to be collected free of charge from ‘The Monument’, as we knew it.
Ah Jayz you chizzlers back den had de best of evertin. Even after a few digs fom Lugs Brannigan ye could get a scut up Sackville steet on de back of a coal lorry and get your cuntry delights in de heart of de sit-eee. An’ if poor ‘oul Bang Bang was sittin’ outside side yed give him a ha’penny for de quart of de butttermilk.:p
tommytParticipantas a rookie driver I had a bit of a wobble and was genuinely distracted by the new one on Sean Moore Rd heading towards the East Link. Hopefully there’s enough shunts or close calls (where no one’s injured of course) that will get someone like the Insurance Federation of Ireland campaigning for their removal.
tommytParticipant@Devin wrote:
Greg, maybe you should check the status of the proposal before going on a rant. The overall scheme was granted permission last month. Owning to concerns raised by An Taisce and others, Condition 2 (iv) of the decision requires the glazing to be setback by 6 metres fron the church facade – <a href="http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=1174/08&theTabNo=2&backURL=Search%20Criteria%20>%201174/08
The wonderful little portico will be repaired, which is obviously welcome.
Wonderful is the exact adjective to use. I was flabbergasted the first tiime I ever encountered it because it is so unexpected to think it was ever built in the context anyone under 50 thinks of Sean McD st and more so it survived!
Was Gloucester st ever as important as Gardiner’s Mall for example? I know so little about it as it must have been one of the first streets in the area to decline and the coming of the railway and the docks nearby must have stripped away any upmarket notions the street would have had pretty quickly…
EDIT: JJust found some good photos on this site second post down of the Gloucester Diamond and a football pitch with what I presume is the rear of summerhill in the background. Sorry don’t know how to paste the images…very interesting
http://www.dublin.ie/forums/showthread.php?p=222173
More photos from c.1980
tommytParticipant@ctesiphon wrote:
I looked at this a few weeks ago, and what struck me was the relatively low density of the overall development. Higher densities on smaller footprints – though not necessarily high rises! – would allow for more expansion in future, whereas the current parkland layout might prove difficult to densify down the line.
Don’t know if you’ve ever walked those grounds but there are stands and individual examples of spectacular yew trees that must be ancient and their preservation would be central to the design-haven’t had time to peruse the masterplans yet-just thought I would stick an initial oar in:)
tommytParticipantThat’s not a Muddy Fox ATB by any chance? edit-just notced it’s actually a Giant looking at the frame shape-tells how disgusting that riverbed is that no one has tried to salvage it!.
Whilst working as a courier a while back one of my more eccentric colleague’s cashed his paycheck, went to Mary street and bought a kids dingy, a chinese and a six pack and headed off from Ormond Quay to the IFSC with the whole ensemble- including the bike -on board.He was arrested at Spencer Dock for having the temerity to actually get some amenity value from the river…
tommytParticipant@hutton wrote:
It looks great.
Such an improvement on the nasty cheapo 70s block that was there before.
Cool crisp and clean lines, with the tinted glass envelope alluding to the placidity of the canal in front, and welcoming open skies above.
“O unworn world enrapture me, encapture me in a web
Of fabulous grass and eternal voices by a beech,
Feed the gaping need of my senses, give me ad lib
To pray unselfconsciously with overflowing speech
For this soul needs to be honoured with a new dress woven
From green and blue things and arguments that cannot be proven.”From Patrick Kavanaghs ‘Canal Bank Walk’
Anybody else see the One Warrington Place, just down the way – and again a vast improvement…
While the Celtic Tiger may not have delivered massive Gerkin-style icons, here as with the Harcourt Building, the city has benefited from some good quality decent commercial buildings 🙂
Nice quote work- Have you anything from ‘The Hard Life’ to eulogise the newbie on Warrington Place by any chance?
tommytParticipant@paul_moloney wrote:
I note that the fountain is still there, switched off, 5 years later. What a disaster. Only in Ireland do things like this seem to happen….
I happen to know the designer of that fountain and he is gutted at the way the whole project worked out. It was not built to the proper spec-the corpo put in a pump that wasn’t powerful enough to achieve the intended effect with the water so of course it was just a misty dribble that was an annoyance to passers by and it got turned off. I haven’t heard of any plans to fix it. I imagine it will be dug up at some stage.
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