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  • #775405
    jdivision
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    @aj wrote:

    if ever there was a case for pastiche then this is it… surely the entire fitzwilliam street facade must be reinstated or else we risk repeating the orginal mistake!

    Unless they go for a Henrietta Street-style modern interpretation!

    #775406
    aj
    Participant

    @jdivision wrote:

    Unless they go for a Henrietta Street-style modern interpretation!

    dont even get me started about the conservation of Dublins Most importatn set piece!

    #775407
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Architects are being told to assume that all the existing buildings, except the protected structures will be demolished to make way for the redevelopment. The competition will be held by the Royal Institute of the Architects of Ireland and will be judged by a panel headed by ESB Chairman Lochlann Quinn.

    #775408
    jdivision
    Participant

    @Paul Clerkin wrote:

    Architects are being told to assume that all the existing buildings, except the protected structures will be demolished to make way for the redevelopment.

    Which is precisely the opposite of what they were telling the media three weeks ago!

    #775409
    cajual
    Participant

    @Paul Clerkin wrote:

    Architects are being told to assume that all the existing buildings, except the protected structures will be demolished to make way for the redevelopment. The competition will be held by the Royal Institute of the Architects of Ireland and will be judged by a panel headed by ESB Chairman Lochlann Quinn.

    It’s not an RIAI competition…

    #775410
    Service charge
    Participant

    Some able minded person should pull the original georgian plans, redraw them and submit it!!!

    #775411
    gunter
    Participant

    . . . and send a servant around with a bill for five guineas!

    #775412
    GregF
    Participant

    A glass neon tower of 40 storeys or more with a pylon or windmill on the roof would be very apt here. Blacam Meagher & Co are no doubt drawing up the plans.

    #775413
    ratsam
    Participant

    No doubt with a project of this size there will be a tough pre-qualification stage. Probably eliminate 80-90% of the firms in the country with it…! ;):mad: I’d be fairly confident from reading the above that there will be a big entry from overseas big firm architects…. the likes of Rogers, Fosters and maybe if we where lucky enough Herzog and De Meuron…! It’d be nice to see a HDM building built in Ireland.

    Rats

    #775414
    lostexpectation
    Participant

    please when and where can we round up all of the people responsible for the current hq and throw rotten fruit at them

    #775415
    alonso
    Participant

    @lostexpectation wrote:

    please when and where can we round up all of the people responsible for the current hq and throw rotten fruit at them

    CJH and Big Sam? Both no longer with us

    #775416
    ctesiphon
    Participant

    @ratsam wrote:

    It’d be nice to see a HDM building built in Ireland.

    I’m sure the DDDA is working on it as we speak. :rolleyes:

    #775417
    tommyt
    Participant

    @alonso wrote:

    CJH and Big Sam? Both no longer with us

    You have my full support if you wanna go piss on Neil Blaney’s grave as well if you’ve got the inkling for such behaviour.

    #775418
    lostexpectation
    Participant

    what about the big shots in esb, are those involved in the present hq still around

    #775419
    alonso
    Participant

    @tommyt wrote:

    You have my full support if you wanna go piss on Neil Blaney’s grave as well if you’ve got the inkling for such behaviour.

    if I can manage it after leaving 6 pints worth on Charlie’s

    #775420
    missarchi
    Participant
    #775421
    gunter
    Participant

    Anyone know what the brief is?

    I imagine item no. 1 may be:

    ‘contestants will provide one squillion sq.m. of office space’.

    The laugh is that this will probably end up in the bin with Sean Dunne’s ‘architectural’ competition winner for the Ballsbridge site, after Bord Pleanála have held it up to the light:)

    . . . although mightn’t be so humorous if we all end up forking out a few more quid on our electric bills to pay for it!

    #775422
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I published the brief in this mornings newsletter…… maybe you should register….

    http://ireland.archiseek.com/news/2009/000123.pdf

    #775423
    missarchi
    Participant

    95% government…

    It is also envisaged that an hourly rate applicable to the different architectural professional
    grades will be submitted as part of the indicative fee proposal to allow for other services
    that may arise during the course of the design process such as attendance at any oral
    hearing.

    a rate for life would be good! I’m not sure about Ireland but there is a minimum architects salary in other parts of the world that is different to the minimum wage? There is no architects union and architects don’t protest they listen to teachers;)
    good luck to who ever fills in those forms!

    #775424
    gunter
    Participant

    Thanks for posting the . . . ‘Strictly Private and Confidential’ . . . . brief :), I hadn’t spotted that!

    Note that section C; Final Pass/Fail Criterion states:

    ”Provision of satisfactory references attesting to the applicant having previously delivered comparable design and development projects successfully and the manner in which the services were delivered”

    A bit like the Sydney authorities precluding Jorn Utzon because he hadn’t done any other opera houses!

    If I’m reading this right the competition is intended to produce three winners, is that the way others read it?

    . . . but it’s not a proper two-stage competition, the picking of the chosed architect from this ”winning” three doesn’t seem to involve any further design consideration!!!

    Presumably costs, including fees, are intended to be the suject of the final battle to the death. I notice that enclosed (and sealed) fee submissions are not intended to impact on the initial choice of the ”winning” three designs, but I didn’t see anything precluding a Dutch auction after that.

    . . . not that architect fees should even enter this equation, this should be about righting a wrong, not about creating another opportunity to out-do the wrong already done.

    I don’t know, I think archiseek is going to have to host it’s own parallel virtual competition, for those of us whose turn-over dips slightly under the €2.5 million 🙂

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