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  • #718840
    shadow
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    it is precisely not the ambition to be like UCD in fact it is likely to be a different type of campus altogether.

    #718841
    PTB
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    In what way?

    #718842
    notjim
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    Andrzej Wejchert plan would have been very good if they had kept to it and didn’t go hog wild building stumpy buildings and car parks everywhere.

    #718843
    Paul Clerkin
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    Grangegorman Development Agency Announces Appointment Of Chief Executive Officer
    Filed: 30th April 2007 11:39 AM

    The Grangegorman Development Agency has announced the appointment of Mr. Gerry Murphy as chief executive officer of the Agency, from June 2007. Mr. Murphy joins the Grangegorman Development Agency from the National Roads Authority where he was the Head of Public Partnerships and Network Tolling since 1999.

    Announcing Mr. Murphy’s appointment, John Fitzgerald, chairman of the Grangegorman Development Agency, said: “I am delighted that Gerry is joining us. He will take the helm at the very start of an exciting development project which aims to create a new city quarter, comprising a DIT campus which will re-house over 20,000 DIT students along with health and community services and recreational amenities.’

    ‘I am confident that Gerry’s wealth of experience and knowledge of property planning and development through his work with the National Roads Authority and other high profile projects will prove advantageous as he drives this development to completion,” continued Fitzgerald.

    Mr. Murphy is taking on the chief executive officer role of the Agency at an ideal time as work on preparing a masterplan design for Grangegorman gets underway. The masterplan section of the development is expected to complete at the end of 2007.

    An engineer by profession, Mr. Murphy has project managed very large infrastructure projects on behalf of Dublin City Council and Dublin County Council. He has also had particular involvement in developing the public private partnership model for financing public infrastructure on behalf of the National Roads Authority. Mr. Murphy previously worked for Concern in Tanzania as a Water Projects Engineer.

    Mr. Murphy holds academic qualifications in both Engineering and Teaching and is a Chartered Member of Engineers Ireland since 1988.

    #718844
    PTB
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    Wheres the hospital thats on the site going to go? When will it go?

    #718845
    lostexpectation
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    how about high rise here? high rise for universities?

    #718846
    kefu
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    Hospital has reduced in size enormously over the years as pyschiatric practices have changed. The numbers of patients there are now down to a little more than 100 so it will be moved to a much smaller site – I’m nearly sure it’s on the North Circular Road. Health Board own a lot of land in the area so there’ll be no shortage of sites for them.

    #718847
    notjim
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    Sketches of the DIT masterplan are available here:
    http://www.grangegormandevelopmentagency.ie/strategicplan.html
    and a longer version available here, listed as June 2008.
    http://www.dit.ie/about/grangegorman/

    #718848
    johnny21
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    15,14 and 10 storey buildings is the only high rise. Looks like a great plan, architecture looks brilliant!:D. architects website http://www.darmodyarchitects.com http://www.mryarchitects.com/index_centered.html. albion property building mixed use property on edge of development. very dull looking render!! a few more renders on websites.

    #718849
    notjim
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    I agree; on first reading the plan looks fantastic, the established experience with working with Universities really shows. Great stuff.

    The one concern is that they will build out the site pretty quickly; what are the long term plans, are they hoping for some of the bus depot or what?

    #718850
    johnny21
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    By looking at the plan they are going to take over 50% of bus depot for future expansion. When looking at the maps for the site they have plenty of land for future expansion why the bus depot?? But its really a great plan, the views of the city from the high rises is great. the development would just blend in with the city.:D

    #718851
    notjim
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    I wasn’t sure whether the drawings of the bus depot where for future expansion or for commercial development. Assuming though that without the buildings they have marked as future expansions, the plan caters for the existing DIT and leaving out the bus depot they look to me like they are short of expansion possibilities. This would be worry since it would put the circulation spaces and playing fields under development pressure in the long term.

    #718852
    ctesiphon
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    I looked at this a few weeks ago, and what struck me was the relatively low density of the overall development. Higher densities on smaller footprints – though not necessarily high rises! – would allow for more expansion in future, whereas the current parkland layout might prove difficult to densify down the line.

    #718853
    notjim
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    You thought it was low density; it seemed to me to be about right for a university with 22 thousand students, particularly given the remit of making it clearly permeable and replete with community facilities, something I think the masterplan achieves. The site though isn’t huge, not once the HSE part is taken out.

    #718854
    ctesiphon
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    Oh, for sure. I was thinking of the entire site, not just the DIT bit.

    Also, ‘relatively low density’ ≠ ‘low density’- I was just implying that I expected higher densities in a more concentrated area. This is an urban location but the solution proposed is a more suburban one. And higher densities would be a better safeguard for the playing fields.

    At least there are no plans to provide student car parking (hello UCD! I’m looking at you!), though I fear we may yet see the same type of fecky little black and yellow ramps as Trinity has just installed- just about the most cycling unfriendly addition one could make to a road surface. Did Trinity not consider leaving gaps in the ramps? They’re modular, ferchrissakes! Just take out one of the bits.

    [/rant]

    #718855
    notjim
    Participant

    How would you increase the density; replace one of the quads with a big big buildings, thicken the buildings to reduce the quad size, get rid of some of these “green fingers”?

    [aside] Don’t get me started on TCD and bikes, it’s a whole tale of amazing disgracefulness, for a start the director of buildings isn’t responsible for cycle, as he is for parking, the SU is. [/aside]

    #718856
    cgcsb
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    It looks really great and the integrating with the city PDF file shows the first proposed route for luas line D that I’ve ever seen, No thanks to the RPA. I live in the area and I’ll be happy to see this being developed. Does anyone know what time frame we’re looking at?

    #718857
    tommyt
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    @ctesiphon wrote:

    I looked at this a few weeks ago, and what struck me was the relatively low density of the overall development. Higher densities on smaller footprints – though not necessarily high rises! – would allow for more expansion in future, whereas the current parkland layout might prove difficult to densify down the line.

    Don’t know if you’ve ever walked those grounds but there are stands and individual examples of spectacular yew trees that must be ancient and their preservation would be central to the design-haven’t had time to peruse the masterplans yet-just thought I would stick an initial oar in:)

    #718858
    notjim
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    tommyt: do look at the masterplan, it does look impressive. The bottom c. third of the part to the west of Grangegorman Rd is playing fields and this includes a tree lined walk, I take it this is the existing tree lined walk you always see in pictures of the site?

    #718859
    ctesiphon
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    @tommyt wrote:

    Don’t know if you’ve ever walked those grounds but there are stands and individual examples of spectacular yew trees that must be ancient and their preservation would be central to the design-haven’t had time to peruse the masterplans yet-just thought I would stick an initial oar in:)

    I haven’t walked it, but I’m familiar from reading the documentation and looking at it on Virtual Earth. I’m not advocating a blank slate approach, btw, and retention of the historic buildings and whatever specimen trees remain would be essential in my opinion. That;s the starting point.

    notjim-

    Re densification- increase the number of floors? Bear in mind, this is possible without going up. Though, in the case of Grangegorman, I do see potential for higher buildings too. My original point was more to do with potential for future densification. As you note, the current layout might increase the pressure on the green spaces, whereas a more concentrated one could specify which lands are for amenity use and which ones are for future development. If not, it could become another UCD Business Park.

    Re the fingers- it’s a cute concept – oh look, it looks like a hand! – but I’d prefer it if they were called green corridors rather than fingers. Would you bet against someone at some stage referring to DIT ‘reaching out into the community’? 🙂

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