Liffey Cable Cars – Pointless Gimmick or….

And the story that goes along with it:

Plan for cable car attraction on Liffey
Frank McDonald and Ruadhan Mac Eoin
Saturday, February 4
A private consortium is proposing to develop a cable car service along the Liffey Quays in Dublin, running between Heuston Station and Docklands.
The cable cars would transport sightseers at heights approaching 80 metres (264ft) above the river from the Guinness Brewery near Heuston to a terminal located near the planned national conference centre at Spencer Dock.
Aimed primarily at the tourism market, the cable cars would give people a birds-eye view of many of Dublin’s landmarks, including the Custom House, the Four Courts, St James’ Gate Brewery and the National Museum at Collins Barracks.
Each of the four cable cars would have capacity for 25 people and the duration of a trip in either direction would be around 20 minutes.
It is anticipated that most passengers would travel by cable car one-way and make their return by other means.
Currently the ticket price is estimated at €15, which the promoters say compares “very favourably” to other attractions such as the London Eye which costs over €17 per visit.
The €52 million project, which is headed by Dublin property developer Barry Boland, would involve erecting four giant steel towers – two of them significantly taller than Liberty Hall and the other two almost as high – along the three kilometre route.
The towers, designed by architects McGarry N

And an opinion piece by Frank Mc D on the same –

Daring plan inspired by London Eye

The proposal for cable cars along the Liffey is a sensational example
of lateral thinking, writes Frank McDonald

For decades, Dublin has been divided by the River Liffey, with the
northside and the southside glowering at each other over its murky
depths. But now there is a daring plan to celebrate the river,
bringing the two sides together in a quite remarkable way.

The proposal to run cable cars over the river between Heuston Station
and North Wall Quay, just west of Spencer Dock, is designed as a
tourist attraction rather than a transport service.

But like all bright ideas, it is a sensational example of lateral
thinking. Developer Barry Boland, of Beaux Walk Properties Ltd, has
been working on it for a year and earlier this week presented it to
senior Dublin City Council officials, including city manager John
Fitzgerald. Their response, not surprisingly, was enthusiastic.

It was inspired by the success of the London Eye, which generated some
£60 million (€88.28 million) in revenue last year, according to Mr
Boland. His cable car project would also be run as a commercial
enterprise, but its thrill-seekers would be “going somewhere”.

The plan has its challenging aspects – not least the installation of
four giant “towers” along the river to support the cable lines. But as
conceived by architects McGarry Ní Éanaigh and engineers Roughan
O’Donovan, these are light and elegant structures.

Both firms have good track records. McGarry Ní Éanaigh designed the
lighting masts in Smithfield, as well as the highly successful Liffey
Boardwalk, while Roughan O’Donovan designed the Luas bridge in Dundrum
and the Boyne bridge outside Drogheda.

One of the principal objectives in the project, fully costed at €52
million by quantity surveyors Bruce Shaw, was to minimise the visual
impact of the support structures. This has been done by limiting them
to four, instead of cluttering up the riverscape.

Two of the steel towers – at the end of Marlborough Street and in
front of the Civic Offices at Wood Quay – would be 85m high, while the
other two – west of Watling Street bridge and Custom House Quay –
would rise to a height of 55m.

With some 2,000 juggernaut trucks expected to vanish from the quays
after the port tunnel opens later this year, Dublin City Council is
about to start work on a new framework plan for the river – and the
cable car proposal could become its most exciting element.

Chief planner Dick Gleeson and city architect Jim Barrett are
certainly enthusiastic about the plan, which they see as a dynamic way
of stitching the city together along the spine of its main river –
though, obviously, it still has to go through the planning process.

Mr Boland cites figures showing that Dublin had 5.8 million visitors
last year, with an average stay of 4½ days. But he says all of the
city’s attractions are static, including the Guinness Storehouse,
through which 740,000 trooped up to its Gravity Bar.

One of the terminals would be located within the Guinness Brewery on
Victoria Quay, a short walk from Heuston Station; the other just west
of the planned Calatrava bridge, some 50m from the site of the
national conference centre at Spencer Dock.

Two new pedestrian bridges are being “thrown in free gratis”, as Mr
Boland says. One would be located on the axis of Marlborough Street
and Hawkins Street, providing an obviously needed link, while the
other would span between Ormond Quay and Wood Quay.

Swiss manufacturer Doppelmayr Garaventa, which makes most of the
world’s cable cars, are so enthusiastic about the project that they
are going to invest in it. Mr Boland is banking on the likelihood that
Dubliners and visitors to the city will be equally electrified.

(c) The Irish Times

Frankly I think it’s a terrible idea, visually ugly (using Smithfield’s torches as a good example of McGarry NiEanaigh work is laughable) and I hope it doesn’t go ahead.

NO NO NO NO

Would clutter the quays, obscuring all architecture……. Will be poorly maintained and financially unviable

No No

Too much money now in the country no sense….

and the passangers will be able to look down and see the _spirit of the docklands_ also “reimagining the river in a creative and exciting way”

In your opinion is the suggested cable car system along the river Liffey in Dublin a pointless gimmick that we don’t need or a good example or how imagination can make Dublin a better place to live?

Plan for cable car attraction on Liffey
The Irish Times

A private consortium is proposing to develop a cable car service along the Liffey Quays in Dublin, running between Heuston Station and Docklands. The cable cars would transport sightseers at heights approaching 80 metres (264ft) above the river from the Guinness Brewery near Heuston to a terminal located near the planned national conference centre at Spencer Dock. Aimed primarily at the tourism market, the cable cars would give people a birds-eye view of many of Dublin’s landmarks, including the Custom House, the Four Courts, St James’ Gate Brewery and the National Museum at Collins Barracks. Each of the four cable cars would have capacity for 25 people and the duration of a trip in either direction would be around 20 minutes.

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2006/0204/158080939HM3NEWSSTORY.html

I had to look at my calendar to check that it was not April 1st. The big difference between the Roosevelt Island cable car and that proposed for the Liffey is that the former traverses the river and is primarily used by residents (cost is a subway token) and the latter is for tourists, will cost $15 and follow the river’s route. Why bother? Why not use boats? I though a boat service had started on the Liffey? Paris has its bateaux mouches, the East River has cruises, and for a while there was a river taxi service; that stopped due to lack of use, but that was due to a mixture of cost ($9 versus $3.50 for the East Side Shuttle or $1.5 for Subway) and only 2 stops (57th St. and 96th St.) which were too limiting. Looking at the roundy cablecar pods I can already hear it being called Dublin’s “pie in the sky.”
KB2

One word comes to mind: “Monorail”.

It’s hard to see the “lateral thinking” angle that Frank McDonald is going on about. The cable cars that I’ve seen have been used to ferry people across a chasm (e.g. Dursey Island was mentioned earlier on) or to carry people up a hill (e.g. somewhere like the Zugspitz in Germany or any ski lift you care to mention). In both of those types of case, the cable car is necessary or at the very least extremely useful.

How does building a totally unnecessary cable car which will only function as a tourist attraction constitute “lateral thinking”:confused: