How well do you know Dublin?
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February 2, 2006 at 3:22 am #708401
GrahamH
ParticipantHere’s a fun game.
Well okay – a silly anorak distraction, but no matter.
It’s inspired by the final few pages of Peter Pearson’s ‘Decorative Dublin’ where one can send many an hour racking their brains trying to name the various building features depicted without looking at the captions – if eh, so inclined…
Here’s how it works. Any amount of pictures (though preferably groups of five) are posted by a member in a single post and named individually by sequential lettering. The pictures feature a part, an element or an abstract depiction of a Dublin building which must be sited within the canals. All members have to do is work out what building it is! Oh the wholesome fun of it all.
The thread is subtitled Dublin but obviously other towns and cities could be done too assuming the critical mass of viewers is there. A small fee of €14,700 is charged to operate the franchise – just pm me for bank details 😀
This may very well fall flat on its face but anyway – all you have to do is list the letters in your post and then name what you think are the featured buildings beside them. If you know all the buildings, well say that but name two or three and let others have a chance. If these prove too easy, well they’ll just have to get harder won’t they?
The person with the most points wins a packet of smiley face erasers from Hector Greys and a €100 shopping voucher courtesy of ‘Not to Worry’ of Talbot Street, so get answering!
(they have a sale on now by the way if interested)These are just testing the waters:
A
B
C
D
E
Name them any way you like: ‘that building next to’ or ‘xxx shop building’ or whatever 🙂
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February 2, 2006 at 4:48 am #765805
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterhmmmm…..
A Todd Burns aka Pennys
E is Portobello College I reckon -
February 2, 2006 at 10:45 am #765806
shadow
ParticipantA Jervis Street
B -NCH
C-Wilton Place
D – Corner D’Olier St
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February 2, 2006 at 11:39 am #765807
Anonymous
ParticipantA> Dental Hospital Lincoln Place
B> Morrison Chambers Dawson/Nassau St
C Ulster Bank 30-32 College Green
D Archers Garage
E Hotel / Potobello College -
February 2, 2006 at 2:01 pm #765808
SeamusOG
ParticipantB – Government Buildings, Merrion Street?
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February 2, 2006 at 4:51 pm #765809
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterokay i know have them all except b…. because i’m sure its not the nch, gov buildings, or morrison chambers, but its definitely 20th classicism…
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February 2, 2006 at 6:17 pm #765810
lostexpectation
ParticipantB The hotel opposite the EBS building on Westmoreland street. I ‘ve taken that photo myself its magical:)
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February 2, 2006 at 6:23 pm #765811
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterahah…. the old Pearl Assurance building….
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February 2, 2006 at 7:49 pm #765812
GrahamH
Participant…and the the penny drops 🙂
Good guesses there – can’t believe what I thought were the most difficult went the most quickly: Portobello and Todds, while the most obvious took the longest! How many 20th century classicals are there in the city?! The Ulster Bank image is actually of its Suffolk Street facade, but they’re all the same anyway.
D is still outstanding so will be carried forward to the next round 🙂
It’s a surprisingly unknown building for what is a very prominent site, to give a clue….
Also c1910D
F
G
H
I
The latter may seem very obscure, but it is very much so part of the architecture of its building.
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February 2, 2006 at 11:27 pm #765813
SeamusOG
ParticipantI’d guess that I is the chimney on the annex (for want of a better word) to no.1 Grafton Street (Provost’s House), i.e. the bit to the right of the house as you look at it from the street
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February 2, 2006 at 11:37 pm #765814
Paul Clerkin
Keymasteris H on Thomas Street
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February 3, 2006 at 12:21 am #765815
jackwade
ParticipantH is a buiding on Liffey street, right?
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February 3, 2006 at 1:05 am #765816
Devin
ParticipantThis is good crack!
Yeah H is beside the Epicurean Food Hall on Lr. Liffey Street.
D is at the corner of Stepen’s Green and Dawson Street.
G is one of two bollards at the BoI House of Lords portico, College Gn.Can’t get that F cupola thing! Is it out towards the D4 area somewhere?
The chimneys … God Graham, there must be a fair few of them around. Didn’t some Georgian houses receive decorative pots like that later on? – but you are hinting that they reflect the style of the building … -
February 3, 2006 at 1:18 am #765817
Devin
ParticipantOk I see now from rereading the first post that F must be within the canals … still flummoxed!
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February 3, 2006 at 2:59 am #765818
GrahamH
Participantheheheh – yes it looks like a frilly south Dublin Vicorian piece doesn’t it? But is it? Now that’s the question…
Very well observed, and so quickly Seamus O’G – the chimney is indeed that of one of the Provost’s House’s wings. You even guessed the right-hand one correctly!
And yes Jack, Liffey Street it is – though I see the similarity to a building on Thomas St alright:And trust Devin to recognise a feckin lump of granite. And the former Aer Lingus building corner feature it is indeed – very good.
So the mystery F is carried forward….
Go easy on this batch now, they don’t grow on trees you know – this is the first and last time two lots are being posted on the same day!
F
J
K
L
M
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February 3, 2006 at 3:48 am #765819
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterahhh I was thinking D was top of Dawson Street alright…
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February 3, 2006 at 3:55 am #765820
Devin
ParticipantThat BoI bollard is actually a concrete replica Graham! – but the other of the two (on the Westmoreland St. side) is stone.
I won’t comment on these new pictures so as someone else can have a go.
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February 3, 2006 at 4:16 am #765821
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterGot a few of them – f is bothering me, thats a port crane in the background…
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February 3, 2006 at 5:15 am #765822
Morlan
ParticipantAh yes, M = Custom House. I was taking photos of that door a few days ago.
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February 3, 2006 at 11:27 am #765823
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February 3, 2006 at 1:20 pm #765824
SeamusOG
ParticipantK looks very much like Stokes Place, that useful shortcut between St. Stephen’s Green and Harcourt Street.
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February 3, 2006 at 3:02 pm #765825
Rusty Cogs
Participant@Thomond Park wrote:
Is it the cupolla that was taken down from the wool store in part of the Spencer Dock scheme?
Nope, that one was not nearly as nice or well maintained.
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February 3, 2006 at 3:14 pm #765826
Anonymous
ParticipantI can’t figure out which building it is in the docklands; the only explanation that springs to mind is that the photo has been taken from a tall building closer to the centre
K is Harcourt Square which is given away by the ‘Iveagh Court’ on Harcourt Road it does resemble both the Mater hospital and Stokes place, three horror stories
Coming back to A I am confused by what appears to be an overhanging tree and there are no trees at this location.
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February 3, 2006 at 3:34 pm #765827
SeamusOG
Participant@Thomond Park wrote:
Coming back to A I am confused by what appears to be an overhanging tree and there are no trees at this location.
I was wondering about that too, the first time I saw the picture. I originally thought that it might be a building at the back of Kevin Street, Long Lane I think, where there are trees. Obviously it’s not, though looking at the drainpipes it’s hard to reconcile the small picture (A) with the complete one.
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February 3, 2006 at 3:41 pm #765828
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February 3, 2006 at 4:25 pm #765829
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantIs L the hideous Dr. Quirkey’s on O’Connell Street?
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February 3, 2006 at 8:12 pm #765830
GrahamH
ParticipantIt is indeed Andrew 🙂
Though the building itself isn’t too bad – rather bizarre 1940s piece by the looks of it…Excellent work CTR for getting Pearse Street Garda Station – what a difficult one that was. I woudn’t have got it either admittedly.
And yes Harcourt Square/Garda Station features with the relad Iveagh Court in the background, and the gilded fanlight of the main entrance to the Custom House there too.So J gets carried forward – hmmm…..
J
N
O
P
Q
O has been tweaked slightly to alter the background.
Sorry pics thus far are a bit city centre-centred – if anyone else could help redress the balance that would be good. -
February 3, 2006 at 8:19 pm #765831
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterN – Clare Street
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February 3, 2006 at 9:20 pm #765832
Anonymous
InactiveIs Q Tyrone House, the HQ of the Dept. of Education on Marlborough St.
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February 3, 2006 at 9:27 pm #765833
Anonymous
InactiveO is Thomas Moore on College Green and Q is Tyrone House on Marlborough St.
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February 3, 2006 at 9:49 pm #765834
Paul Clerkin
Keymasteryep i think so…
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February 3, 2006 at 10:38 pm #765835
SeamusOG
ParticipantIs P an office building on the west side of Earlsfort Terrace, between Upper Hatch Street and Adelaide Road. I think that building is somewhere around there. I have a suspicion that J may be the Law Society in Blackhall Place.
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February 4, 2006 at 10:09 pm #765836
SeamusOG
ParticipantWrong on both counts – very wrong on the first.:o Well at least this thread is encouraging to put in a bit of cycling at the weekend:)
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February 5, 2006 at 1:30 pm #765837
Anonymous
InactiveP is Fitzwilton house, and J is either The National Museum or National Library?
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February 5, 2006 at 3:47 pm #765838
Anonymous
ParticipantIs P on D’olier Street ?
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February 5, 2006 at 6:19 pm #765839
hutton
ParticipantAn excellent game – My 2pence
P – DOlier St, Gas HQ by Fitzgerald
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February 6, 2006 at 9:50 pm #765840
GrahamH
Participantah go back to bed.
Well, okay not too bad. Fitzgerald’s D’Olier House is P which is presumably what you meant hutton :), and Peter.
Nice building.Clare Street is very well spotted as N – a classic Dublin vista as viewed from Nassau Street, given away in the compliation by a certain cupola…
Q is Tyrone House. Surprisingly few nine-over-sixes on major buildings in the city so those tall windows probably stood out.
And of course Moore is O. Still enjoys the odd tipple.…especially if a nice Australian Cabernet Sauvignon.
Anyone else enjoy reading ‘My trip to Historic Dublin’ sites by silly Americans?
Can across one recently delighting over the ‘Georgian’ chimneys of the Scottish Widows in ‘Georgian Dublin’, and Moore, ‘both at least 200 years old’ 😀So poor J languishes at the bottom of the pile 🙁
Come on, it’s hardly that difficult. At least Foster Place is getting warmer in that with that level of decoration it’s clearly Regency or 20th century classicisim. But which? And where?J
(and shut up Devin – you always have to spoil everything)
😉
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February 7, 2006 at 12:52 am #765841
SeamusOG
ParticipantIt reminds me more of a gate lodge (or similar) that I’ve seen around somewhere, rather than one of the more imposing buildings in the city. The obvious one would be the gate lodge at the Lincoln Place entrance to TCD, but I think that was taken down some years back. Must have a look.
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February 8, 2006 at 4:57 am #765842
SeamusOG
ParticipantThis is a superrb thread. Great idea. The pounds will fall off me this weekend!
That little bit of string around Thomas Moore’s neck. What’s it for? It looks like he’s wearing a hoody.
Quick question, Graham, about the unsolved location. Is that tree still there? I just had a hunch it might be one of the buildings on O’Connell Street.
Any chance of another clue:D
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February 8, 2006 at 8:01 pm #765843
GrahamH
ParticipantThe tree is still there…
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February 10, 2006 at 10:49 am #765844
Anonymous
InactiveGraham Hickey wrote:So poor J languishes at the bottom of the pile 🙁
Come on, it’s hardly that difficult. At least Foster Place is getting warmer in that with that level of decoration it’s clearly Regency or 20th century classicisim. But which? And where?J
(and shut up Devin – you always have to spoil everything)
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I think this building is on O’Connell Street. Is it the one that is on the East side of the street, just to the north of Clery’s? (next door)
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February 11, 2006 at 3:29 am #765845
GrahamH
ParticipantCorrect!
I thought the lime tree was handing it up on a plate, but clearly not!Don’t have a wide view of the building but the capital depicted is up at the top of the ground floor anyway 🙂
A strange building that isn’t particularly attractive as a whole; pompous neoclassical, highly embellished ground floor, austere neo-Georgian above, and then capped off with a modernist parapet and pediment! An excellent monument to changing times though.You can see in the picture that Plan B has been called into action by Paddy Power – they’re seeking to let the building upon adapting it for retail requirements via a planning application for glazed interventions to the front, amongst others.
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February 20, 2006 at 4:19 am #765846
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterok i’ll throw in a round or three… here’s my first selection….
#1
#2
#3
#4
#5
#6
#7
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February 20, 2006 at 5:25 am #765847
GrahamH
Participantoooh there’s a good mix in there.
1: Mosaic inside Bus
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February 20, 2006 at 10:48 am #765848
SeamusOG
ParticipantI think 5 is the spire of Arbour Hill church.
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February 20, 2006 at 11:13 am #765849
dodger
Participant6 – st audeons?
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February 20, 2006 at 11:59 am #765850
Andrew Duffy
Participant4 is the North Terminal at Dublin Airport.
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February 20, 2006 at 12:25 pm #765851
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantGotcha! No 7 annoyed me enough to look through the Buildings of Ireland section on Dame Street. I was close:
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February 20, 2006 at 12:43 pm #765852
LOB
ParticipantInteresting watercolours of Dublin street scenes by David Browne
http://www.molesworthgallery.com/Browne%20link%20page.html -
February 20, 2006 at 3:44 pm #765853
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster4 – North Terminal Dublin Airport
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/collinstown/north_terminal.html5- Arbour Hill Church
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/arbour_hill/arbourhill4_lge.html6- St Audoens
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/high_street/st_audeons_portlester.html7- A corpo building on Lord Edaward Street
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/lord_edward_street/corporation_centre_lge.htmlany takes for 1,2,3?
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February 20, 2006 at 4:09 pm #765854
Anonymous
Participant1. New Ireland Dawson Street
2. (A Guess) Embassy House in Ballsbridge
3. Powerscourt South William Street
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February 20, 2006 at 4:14 pm #765855
Paul Clerkin
Keymasternope…
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February 20, 2006 at 6:12 pm #765856
SeamusOG
Participant1 looks like it could have been that bit on the wall of the old Pelican House on Mespil Road. But that’s gone now, so has it been reassembled somewhere else?
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February 20, 2006 at 11:07 pm #765857
Anonymous
Participantthink i agree with Seamus on number 1 – Pelican House ?
2; Microsoft in Sandyford ? -
February 20, 2006 at 11:13 pm #765858
GrahamH
ParticipantYes, it looks like a business park building, but Microsoft is a bit far out of the city…
How very silly to get 3 mixed up with the Green building (though they are very close by) – it is of course the Mercer Hospital 🙂
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February 20, 2006 at 11:17 pm #765859
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster#1 was a trick question, it was the mosaic on the rear of Pelican House…
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/ballsbridge/mespil_road/pelican.html#3 is the old Mercer Hospital
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/mercer_street/mercers_hospital.html -
February 20, 2006 at 11:47 pm #765860
BTH
Participant#2 looks very like the office block beside Herbert Park Hotel – but I’m not sure whether it has an internal corner like that or not…
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February 21, 2006 at 4:12 am #765861
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster#2
#8
#9
#10
#11
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February 21, 2006 at 5:01 am #765862
Morlan
Participant#11, is that in Smithfield?
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February 21, 2006 at 1:35 pm #765863
SeamusOG
ParticipantI think #9 is on Green Street East, between Sir John Rogerson’s Quay and Hanover Quay.
I was wondering about the mosaic on the Pelican House. I remember as a very small boy being at a pantomime in that building – given by staff of the Irish Life whose building it was at the time. There was a hall with what looked liked a purpose-built stage. I wonder was the mosaic there as a “backing” for the stage, i.e., to provide a window-free section in the building.
(between that and the lego, this is a real trip down memory lane):)
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February 21, 2006 at 2:24 pm #765864
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February 21, 2006 at 2:40 pm #765865
SeamusOG
ParticipantGreat Strand Street or more probably the street called Lotts (continuation of GSS)- one of those, eh? It rings a bell, alright.
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February 21, 2006 at 3:27 pm #765866
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterCorrect #9 is the back of a warehouse on the Lotts
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/abbey_street/lotts/spirit_rear.html -
February 21, 2006 at 3:41 pm #765867
dodger
Participantnumber 11 could be the church off hill street – is it St Georges?
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February 21, 2006 at 3:47 pm #765868
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February 21, 2006 at 4:55 pm #765869
dodger
Participant…and unless i am mistaken Commerzbank house, guild street, ifsc is the modern office block at the top…
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February 21, 2006 at 5:24 pm #765870
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster@dodger wrote:
…and unless i am mistaken Commerzbank house, guild street, ifsc is the modern office block at the top…
oh you’re good….
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February 21, 2006 at 5:26 pm #765871
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster#8
#10
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February 22, 2006 at 2:24 am #765872
GrahamH
ParticipantHaven’t a clue about 10 – Capel St area maybe?
9 is a killer – recognise it so well I feel I pass it every day, but cannot place it 🙁
Looks like a combo of Harcourt St Station, the Kildare St Club and the Social Welfare Office on Gardiner Street! -
February 22, 2006 at 4:29 am #765873
ctesiphon
Participant10 might be another trick question, if the plaque’s been moved, but is it (was it) Castle Street? One of the redbricks- can’t remember if it’s north or south side of the street though.
*tosses coin*
South side?
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February 22, 2006 at 6:53 am #765874
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterCorrect ctesiphon – almost opposite the Civic Trust and Barnwells…
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February 22, 2006 at 5:47 pm #765875
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterso any takers for no 8 or do you want the answer
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February 22, 2006 at 6:50 pm #765876
SeamusOG
ParticipantWell I was looking in your excellent architectural archive as I thought it might have been in the zoo, and I came across the Garda Officers’ Club. I must go get my lotto ticket.:)
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February 22, 2006 at 7:25 pm #765877
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February 27, 2006 at 5:47 pm #765878
SeamusOG
ParticipantI aim soon to buy a digital camera and figure out how it all works. I was wondering though, is it difficult to put pictures up on this forum, e.g., on this thread?
In the meantime, three non-visual questions with tenuous architectural connections::)
Which 3 Dublin streets have an Upper, Middle and Lower Section?
Which is the only pub in Dublin to run the entire length of a street?
Which is the only pub in Dublin which has an entrance on 3 different streets/roads?
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February 27, 2006 at 6:19 pm #765879
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantGardiner and Abbey streets both have Lower, Middle and Upper sections. Mountjoy Street used to have all three, but I think Upper and Lower are now just called Mountjoy Street.
edited to remove wierdness
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February 27, 2006 at 6:37 pm #765880
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster@Seamus O’G wrote:
Which is the only pub in Dublin which has an entrance on 3 different streets/roads?
Hanlons on the NCR?
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February 27, 2006 at 6:43 pm #765881
SeamusOG
ParticipantAs far as I know, there is still a middle Mountjoy Street – I just did a google search and it came up with, e.g. , an Irish Times article about a property on the street in October ’05.
Hanlon’s it is indeed – doors on Old Cabra Road, North Circular Road and Annamoe Road.
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February 27, 2006 at 6:49 pm #765882
Anonymous
Inactive@Seamus O’G wrote:
As far as I know, there is still a middle Mountjoy Street – I just did a google search and it came up with, e.g. , an Irish Times article about a property on the street in October ’05.
There is still a Middle Mountjoy Street.
At one point there was Lower, Middle and Upper Liffey Street
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February 27, 2006 at 6:50 pm #765883
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterThe other pub question has me racking my brains
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February 27, 2006 at 7:05 pm #765884
LOB
ParticipantWhich is the only pub in Dublin to run the entire length of a street?
Bodkins on Yarnhall Street 🙂
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February 27, 2006 at 7:11 pm #765885
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantSo what’s the third street with a Lower, Middle and Upper?
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February 27, 2006 at 7:14 pm #765886
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster@LOB wrote:
Which is the only pub in Dublin to run the entire length of a street?
Bodkins on Yarnhall Street 🙂
good call… should have figured that one myself
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February 27, 2006 at 7:15 pm #765887
SeamusOG
ParticipantBodkins it is – well known to many architects:)
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February 27, 2006 at 7:25 pm #765888
SeamusOG
Participant@Andrew Duffy wrote:
So what’s the third street with a Lower, Middle and Upper?
Andrew, I think we’re going with Mountjoy, Gardiner and Abbey. I’m interested to hear from Phil that there used to be a Middle Liffey Street – I wonder was that the section between Abbey Street and Great Strand Street or was there a street through what is now the ILAC centre?
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February 27, 2006 at 8:20 pm #765889
Anonymous
Inactive@Seamus O’G wrote:
Andrew, I think we’re going with Mountjoy, Gardiner and Abbey. I’m interested to hear from Phil that there used to be a Middle Liffey Street – I wonder was that the section between Abbey Street and Great Strand Street or was there a street through what is now the ILAC centre?
According to John Rocque’s 1756 map the street now referred to as Upper Liffey Street was called Middle Liffey Street and Upper Liffey Street ran up between Mary Street/Henry Street and Great Britain Street (Parnell Street), where the Ilac is. Does anyone know when it went? Was it there until the Ilac was built? Coles lane also ran parallel to this as far as what is now Parnell St, but is now the other entrance to the Ilac.
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February 27, 2006 at 8:32 pm #765890
Anonymous
ParticipantMiddle Gardiner Street runs from Parnell St/Summerhill to Mounjoy Square
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February 27, 2006 at 8:36 pm #765891
Morlan
ParticipantHere’s some easy ones..
1
2
3
4
5
6
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February 27, 2006 at 8:43 pm #765892
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster@phil wrote:
According to John Rocque’s 1756 map the street now referred to as Upper Liffey Street was called Middle Liffey Street and Upper Liffey Street ran up between Mary Street/Henry Street and Great Britain Street (Parnell Street), where the Ilac is. Does anyone know when it went? Was it there until the Ilac was built? Coles lane also ran parallel to this as far as what is now Parnell St, but is now the other entrance to the Ilac.
Yeah I think Upper Liffey Street was snuffed out by the ILAC
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February 27, 2006 at 8:48 pm #765893
Anonymous
Participant6. 19-21 College Green also known as pen corner
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February 27, 2006 at 10:03 pm #765894
Morlan
ParticipantYup
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February 27, 2006 at 10:09 pm #765895
ctesiphon
ParticipantIs 4 in the docklands? Hannover Quay or thereabouts?
I’m intrigued by 2.
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February 27, 2006 at 10:19 pm #765896
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterYeah 4 is hanover quay i reckon
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February 27, 2006 at 10:26 pm #765897
Anonymous
ParticipantYer mans Gaff
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February 27, 2006 at 10:26 pm #765898
Morlan
ParticipantCorrect!
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February 27, 2006 at 10:26 pm #765899
Morlan
Participant@Thomond Park wrote:
Yer mans Gaff
who lives there?
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February 27, 2006 at 11:00 pm #765900
ctesiphon
ParticipantI know Harry Crosbie lives in the neighbourhood, but don’t know precisely where. Maybe TP was referring to him.
Is 2 also in the docklands vicinity? Something about the juxtaposition would suggest it.
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February 27, 2006 at 11:18 pm #765901
SeamusOG
ParticipantIt might be that warehouse that looks out over the Grand Canal basin, with one of the new buildings on Barrow Street behind it.
I reckon 5 is the Pepper Canister on Mount Street.
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February 27, 2006 at 11:26 pm #765902
Morlan
Participant@Seamus O’G wrote:
I reckon 5 is the Pepper Canister on Mount Street.
Correct, well spotted.
@Seamus O’G wrote:
It might be that warehouse that looks out over the Grand Canal basin, with one of the new buildings on Barrow Street behind it.
Correctish. It’s acually boxed in by a new office development. You can no longer see it from the street or the basin.
You can access it by wandering down this hidden alleyway like I did.
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February 28, 2006 at 12:19 am #765903
GrahamH
ParticipantWhat an ugly building ^
Presumably 1 is so recognisable for all as to render it unnecessary to be commented on 🙂
I’ve always liked their floodlighting – one of the few, is not the only building in the city that uses what appears to be regular tungsten lamps: they generate a nice warm but clear glow unlike nasty sodium.3 is Iveagh Play House. 5 was very well spotted – would never have got that! The stonework and its condition is strikingly similar to St. Georges.
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February 28, 2006 at 3:28 am #765904
Morlan
ParticipantWell done lads! 1 is indeed the RCSI.
Level TWO:
Here’s some easy ones..
1
2
3
4
5
6
Level THREE will really test your eye balls.
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February 28, 2006 at 3:48 am #765905
GrahamH
ParticipantEasy indeed 😉
Managed to get all except 5, until it clicked – GPO Arcade 😀
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February 28, 2006 at 11:39 am #765906
Anonymous
Participant2 is on Beresford Place and its condition is a disgrace
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February 28, 2006 at 12:55 pm #765907
Anonymous
Inactive@Paul Clerkin wrote:
Yeah I think Upper Liffey Street was snuffed out by the ILAC
Thanks Paul. Isn’t it amazing the way the Ilac swallowed up so much of that area?
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February 28, 2006 at 3:42 pm #765908
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster4 is the oild habitat / galleria on the green
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February 28, 2006 at 4:40 pm #765909
ctesiphon
ParticipantIs 1 the old Dolphin Hotel, now a courthouse? I’m finding it hard to reconcile the corner turret with the blocky building just visible along the left-hand edge, though…
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February 28, 2006 at 5:19 pm #765910
Anonymous
ParticipantBruxelles on Harry St?
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February 28, 2006 at 6:30 pm #765911
Morlan
Participant1. Bruxelles
2. Beresford Place
4. old Habitat
5. GPO arcadeAnyone want to have a go at 6 & 3? (put your hand down Graham!)
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February 28, 2006 at 6:32 pm #765912
jdivision
ParticipantIs 3 an office building on Dame Street?
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March 1, 2006 at 7:51 am #765913
Morlan
Participant -
March 1, 2006 at 1:36 pm #765914
Anonymous
Participant3. is a fantastic example of external stonework;
is it in institutional or private use?
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March 1, 2006 at 3:23 pm #765915
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterNo.3 Abbey Wools buildings on Abbey Street?
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March 1, 2006 at 7:06 pm #765916
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March 1, 2006 at 7:09 pm #765917
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterIt’s bugging me – I know it or I think I should and I cannot nail it…
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March 1, 2006 at 7:24 pm #765918
Devin
ParticipantRoyal Hospital chapel?
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March 1, 2006 at 7:42 pm #765919
ctesiphon
Participant@Devin wrote:
Royal Hospital chapel?
Aye- that was in my head too. Certainly has that early classicism look to it, but the proportions look a bit slender.
Dr Steeven’s maybe? Dublin Castle? Long Library? And then I think it’s a side door of a church somewhere… The tablet behind the crest is most unusual. -
March 1, 2006 at 7:47 pm #765920
LOB
ParticipantClose Devin I think
Great Hall Entrance north Elevation of the Royal Hospital
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March 1, 2006 at 8:04 pm #765921
Morlan
ParticipantCorrect!
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March 2, 2006 at 9:28 pm #765922
Anonymous
ParticipantHas anyone else any pics they’d like to share?
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March 5, 2006 at 4:14 am #765923
SeamusOG
ParticipantI just remembered this old one (alas, another non-visual one):
What is the closest “Road” to O’Connell Street?
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March 5, 2006 at 5:09 am #765924
Ciaran
ParticipantNorth Circular Road?
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March 5, 2006 at 2:07 pm #765925
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March 5, 2006 at 2:45 pm #765926
Anonymous
InactivePhibsboro Road?
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March 5, 2006 at 3:12 pm #765927
SeamusOG
Participant@phil wrote:
Phibsboro Road?
Nope.
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March 5, 2006 at 3:34 pm #765928
BTH
ParticipantBerkeley Rd. ??
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March 5, 2006 at 5:15 pm #765929
cobalt
ParticipantMemorial Road (just before Matt Talbot bridge)?
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March 5, 2006 at 5:22 pm #765930
Frank Taylor
ParticipantMemorial Road?
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March 5, 2006 at 5:25 pm #765931
SeamusOG
ParticipantWell done Cobalt and Frank – Memorial Road it is. If I recall correctly there’s not much in it between that and BTH ‘s suggestion Berkeley Road, but Memorial Road shades it.
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April 6, 2006 at 12:15 pm #765932
ConK
Participantthis is probably too easy. . .
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April 6, 2006 at 1:09 pm #765933
Anonymous
ParticipantKillarney St
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April 7, 2006 at 5:47 pm #765934
ConK
ParticipantYes.
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April 11, 2006 at 12:19 am #765935
Devin
ParticipantThat’s a wonderful little portico, isn’t it? This description of it is from a 1997 Dublin Civic Trust ‘Buildings at Risk’ list:
This Doric-porticoed church front is one of the most distinguished examples of Greek revival in Ireland. It was built for a Presbyterian congregation to the design of a Scottish architect, circa 1830, with a small but monumentally-proportioned, four-columned Doric granite portico with extremely correct use of Grecian motifs. The portico is flanked by wings with severe tapering stone doorcases.
The status of the church (at the time) is given as:
The church had become redundant at the beginning of the 20th century, and was used for a number of years as a grain store. It became vacant in the 1980s and was gutted by fire, resulting in the loss of the original roof and the subsequent demolition of the main body of the church behind the entrance wall and portico. Failure to provide new flashings and cappings on the front wall and around the porico is resulting in serious water saturation affecting the stonework.
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April 25, 2006 at 1:12 pm #765936
ConK
ParticipantThis looks like an old church . . .
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April 25, 2006 at 1:36 pm #765937
urbanisto
ParticipantThats off Summerhill Parade. Is it called Hill Street? It terminated the street and was most likely originally a church. It seems alot of the parish churches of the north inner city have found new uses.
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April 25, 2006 at 10:59 pm #765938
GrahamH
Participant…if not decent shopfront designers….
That church on Killarney St is a fantastic little building – so austere and perfectly proportioned, it’s most surprising to suddenly happen upon it. Anyone know of its current state – haven’t seen it in about a year now….
Four more pics here. Bit of a mixed bag:
A
B
C
D
(B is not in an obscure city park)
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April 25, 2006 at 11:27 pm #765939
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterD – Mater?
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April 26, 2006 at 2:05 am #765940
ctesiphon
ParticipantC- Hainault House (69-71 St Stephen’s Green South).
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April 26, 2006 at 1:51 pm #765941
SeamusOG
ParticipantA – Belvedere Place?
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April 28, 2006 at 2:04 am #765942
GrahamH
ParticipantWell spotted Seamus. Is this the only distinctively sloped Georgian street in Dublin aside from North Great George’s St?
@ctesiphon wrote:
C- Hainault House (69-71 St Stephen’s Green South).
Correct sir – though the address was optional 🙂
The Mater is also spot on.
They’ve a lovely new extension built of late on Eccles Street – one of the finest infill buildings to go up in recent times in Dublin I think:So only the statue B is left – hmmmmm…
Also three others:
E
F
…and a giant dolls house dumped in the middle of the city – but where is it?
G
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April 28, 2006 at 2:56 am #765943
ctesiphon
Participant@Graham Hickey wrote:
Correct sir – though the address was optional 🙂
It’s the offices of the DTO- as a planner it’s my business to know. 😉
E has an air of the Moyne Institute on College Park in Trinity about it, but I can’t remember if the windows are round-headed or not right now.
F could be the little house behind Trinity’s walls on College Green?
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April 28, 2006 at 3:01 am #765944
GrahamH
ParticipantI guessed as much. Lovely views of the Green from the offices – it feels like a Recency London square from up there, even if seen through pre-cast concrete units 🙂
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April 28, 2006 at 3:29 am #765945
ctesiphon
ParticipantAs I once heard a resident of some Brutalist London tower block say, part of the beauty of living in the building was not having to see it from outside.
When I worked in No. 51 St Stephen’s Green a few years ago, my boss had a top floor window overlooking the park- very envious I was.Just uploading some pictures from today, and I thought I’d put one here. Any thoughts? If not the exact lamppost, then the place from which the picture was taken, perhaps?
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April 28, 2006 at 3:38 am #765946
GrahamH
ParticipantBeside the Liffey 😀
Looks like the view from the James Joyce House looking over towards Ellis Quay…
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April 28, 2006 at 3:54 am #765947
ctesiphon
ParticipantSpot on- damn you, Hickey!:)
The James Joyce House is fantastic- it was my first time in it. If anyone hasn’t yet gone, go soon before the work is completed. It’s amazing to see it in a state of semi-undress.
Another view from the top floor of the Joyce House on Usher’s Island, showing the same lamppost (this one’s not a test:) ):
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April 28, 2006 at 4:35 am #765948
SeamusOG
ParticipantIs this the only distinctively sloped Georgian street in Dublin aside from North Great George’s St?
🙂 It was the slope that made me think of it straight off, so I admit I was chancing my arm! I’ve cycled up it many times. I suppose it also doesn’t look quite as polished now as North Great George’s St does.
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April 29, 2006 at 4:04 pm #765949
capslock
ParticipantIs ‘G’ the rear of the kielys on middle abbey street?
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May 3, 2006 at 2:10 pm #765950
SeamusOG
ParticipantI’m also wondering about G.
At the very top of the picture is a building with an extended skylight of sorts – I’m sure there’s a proper term for it – an elevated section of the roof which is made up almost entirely of windows. Stack A style.
I seem to remember seeing something like that around the Earlsfort Terrace / Hatch Street area. Can’t place it though. But it might put the doll’s house around that area.
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May 3, 2006 at 3:30 pm #765951
urbanisto
ParticipantIt is on middle abbey street..I recognise the streetlamp attached to the building. Only used on Abbey Street. Is it the Hotel Capri?
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May 5, 2006 at 1:58 am #765952
GrahamH
ParticipantDamn you streetlamp! Sorry I keep forgetting to reply to this – G is indeed on Middle Abbey St:
…though to be honest haven’t the faintest idea what premises it is – not Hotel Capri anyway. It’s sited just behind M&S, almost terminating the view down (Middle) Liffey St.
The Moyne Institute is an excellent guess for E as it too is sandy-rendered and has some surviving steel windows, but it’s not it :).
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May 5, 2006 at 3:31 am #765953
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterits Kielys I think
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May 5, 2006 at 3:32 am #765954
Paul Clerkin
Keymasteris F the carmelite church on Aungier Street?
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May 5, 2006 at 12:12 pm #765955
Anonymous
ParticipantThe carmelite church is rendered with some exposed calp to the rear not cut stone;
is F the Pidgeon House?
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May 5, 2006 at 12:23 pm #765956
Anonymous
InactiveB is the Archbishop Plunket monument on Kildare Place
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May 5, 2006 at 1:13 pm #765957
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May 6, 2006 at 4:24 am #765958
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May 6, 2006 at 3:29 pm #765959
urbanisto
ParticipantIs it Government Buildings? Small mess halls to the side.
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May 6, 2006 at 5:37 pm #765960
Morlan
ParticipantI like the composition of that Plunkett photo.
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May 6, 2006 at 8:09 pm #765961
Anonymous
ParticipantIs F the Westmorland / College St. side of Trinity ?
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May 6, 2006 at 10:34 pm #765962
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterKings Inns
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May 9, 2006 at 1:04 am #765963
GrahamH
ParticipantNope, nope and nope.
To give a clue, if the owners/occupiers of this/these building/s were around today, the Citywest complex would be one of their favourite haunts.
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May 9, 2006 at 12:43 pm #765964
urbanisto
ParticipantTyrone House? Or the RDS?
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May 13, 2006 at 2:30 am #765965
GrahamH
Participantoooh the RDS is a good guess.
But no 😀
Last clue then, that’s going to give it away: there’s an air of Greek tragedy to this place…
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May 13, 2006 at 1:01 pm #765966
fergalr
ParticipantHas Newman House been suggested yet?!
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May 14, 2006 at 2:03 am #765967
Morlan
ParticipantSorry to barge in lads, if I don’t post these now I won’t have the time later!
a
b
c
d
e
f
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May 14, 2006 at 7:51 am #765968
DOC
ParticipantIs F McKee Barracks on Blackhorse Avenue ?
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May 14, 2006 at 4:52 pm #765969
Anonymous
ParticipantA
The Old Jameson Distillery
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May 14, 2006 at 6:22 pm #765970
Morlan
Participant@Thomond Park wrote:
A
The Old Jameson Distillery
Ceart agat. Maith an fear.
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May 14, 2006 at 6:23 pm #765971
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May 14, 2006 at 7:16 pm #765972
GrahamH
ParticipantIs E on the corner of College Green and Trinity Street?
B is of course the Provost’s House.
Is F the former Richmond Hospital/Dublin Metropolitan Courts? Doesn’t seem to be any of the Iveagh Buildings…
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May 14, 2006 at 11:38 pm #765973
Bren88
ParticipantIs D the AIB Bank on the Quays. Arran quay i believe. Beside St. Paul’s church.
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May 15, 2006 at 3:25 am #765974
Paul Clerkin
Keymasternahh bren, here’s that bank – no dormers
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/quays/arran/alliedirishbanks_lge.html -
May 15, 2006 at 11:09 am #765975
urbanisto
ParticipantC is the fountain on the north side of Customs House. Commemorates the Dublin Fire Brigade and is finally back up and running again.
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May 15, 2006 at 11:12 am #765976
urbanisto
ParticipantIs F in the first set of pics (Mr Hickeys collection) the Gate Theatre perchance
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May 15, 2006 at 3:32 pm #765977
Morlan
Participant@Graham Hickey wrote:
Is E on the corner of College Green and Trinity Street?
B is of course the Provost’s House.
Is F the former Richmond Hospital/Dublin Metropolitan Courts? Doesn’t seem to be any of the Iveagh Buildings…
E – correct
B – correct
F – incorrect@Bren88 wrote:
Is D the AIB Bank on the Quays. Arran quay i believe. Beside St. Paul’s church.
No
@StephenC wrote:
C is the fountain on the north side of Customs House. Commemorates the Dublin Fire Brigade and is finally back up and running again.
Yes!
@Thomond Park wrote:
A
The Old Jameson Distillery
So just D and F remaining.
d
f
I assure you that F is one single building.
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May 15, 2006 at 4:36 pm #765978
Anonymous
InactiveIs F the building, recently restored opposite Pearse Sq, I’m in Milan so can’t verify the exact address. It was a school I believe, now a Community Centre.
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May 15, 2006 at 4:41 pm #765979
Morlan
Participant@lunasa wrote:
Is F the building, recently restored opposite Pearse Sq, I’m in Milan so can’t verify the exact address. It was a school I believe, now a Community Centre.
It’s not, sorry. 🙁
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May 15, 2006 at 9:26 pm #765980
Anonymous
ParticipantF – McKee Barracks ???
sorry just saw that somebody already said that …
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May 15, 2006 at 9:31 pm #765981
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterare you sure its not the old hospital now court complex on north brunswick street
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May 16, 2006 at 1:31 am #765982
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May 16, 2006 at 10:34 am #765983
SeamusOG
ParticipantMaybe F is that red CIE building on North Wall Quay, just at the edge of the Spencer Dock development?
Great to see that building on the corner of Trinity Street and College Green taking its place on this thread. It’s one of my favourites. Viewed from the top of Anglesea Street it just seems to fit into that corner slot so perfectly.:)
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May 16, 2006 at 10:59 am #765984
LOB
ParticipantSeems to be the former hotel on North wall Quay
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/quays/north_wall/british_rail_hotel_lge.html -
May 16, 2006 at 11:23 am #765985
urbanisto
ParticipantIs D the Royal Irish Academy (or somesuch) on Molesworth Street.
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May 16, 2006 at 1:14 pm #765986
Anonymous
InactiveF: The Royal Victoria Hospital? Otherwise known as the ioneer.
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May 16, 2006 at 1:32 pm #765987
hutton
ParticipantDammit… Double posting…Ah well it is my 100 posting, so maybe such is okay 🙂
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May 16, 2006 at 1:33 pm #765988
hutton
Participant@LOB wrote:
Seems to be the former hotel on North wall Quay
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/quays/north_wall/british_rail_hotel_lge.htmlYep..Thats F…Well spotted….If you look at the distinctive chimneys, you could say that it all appears to, eh, “stack up” 😮
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May 16, 2006 at 1:36 pm #765989
Anonymous
InactiveI think D is Number 2 Eden Quay.
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/quays/eden/2_lge.html
I also agree about F. Well spotted Seamus and LOB, and thanks for the testing images Morlan.
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May 16, 2006 at 8:42 pm #765990
GrahamH
ParticipantWow – that is impressive Phil! With those dormers it had to be early 20C, but was impossible to think where!
The IÉ building seems so obvious now too 😮 – the dome is such a charming landmark in the area, as is the building as a whole.
The most challenging yet Morlan 🙂Though this is still outstanding – it’s not the Gate either I’m afraid Stephen.
It dates from about 15 years later…
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May 20, 2006 at 3:42 pm #765991
SeamusOG
ParticipantHmmmmmm.
This building is setting some kind of a record on this thread.
I liked the Pigeon House suggestion earlier. It has that delapidated look and a broken window which would have fitted in.
Not to be.
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
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May 21, 2006 at 6:23 pm #765992
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May 21, 2006 at 9:19 pm #765993
a boyle
Participantis on the NCR ? toward the port ? , just a wild guess.
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May 22, 2006 at 3:05 am #765994
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterBroadstone?
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May 22, 2006 at 3:30 pm #765995
LOB
ParticipantThis has been bugging me for ages
Aldborough House, Portland Row?
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May 22, 2006 at 3:33 pm #765996
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterooohhh good guess
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May 22, 2006 at 3:49 pm #765997
LOB
ParticipantIf it is Aldborough House, I see a planning permission was lodged earlier this month to convert it into a 40 bedroom ”Day Hospital Medical Care Facility”.
details/drawings here
http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=2569/06&backURL=Search%20Criteria%20>%20<a%20href='wphappsearchres.displayResultsURL?ResultID=266613%26StartIndex=1%26SortOrder=APNID:asc%26DispResultsAs=WPHAPPSEARCHRES%26BackURL=Search%20Criteria‘>Search%20ResultsIf you look under view documents there are some scanned drawings
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May 22, 2006 at 6:51 pm #765998
Anonymous
InactiveIs it Marino? Not as in the Casino, but is there another dwelling within its grounds that this could be? I am guessing here, and only really going on Grahams clues.
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May 22, 2006 at 7:17 pm #765999
a boyle
Participant@LOB wrote:
If it is Aldborough House, I see a planning permission was lodged earlier this month to convert it into a 40 bedroom ”Day Hospital Medical Care Facility”.
details/drawings here
http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=2569/06&backURL=Search%20Criteria%20>%20<a%20href='wphappsearchres.displayResultsURL?ResultID=266613%26StartIndex=1%26SortOrder=APNID:asc%26DispResultsAs=WPHAPPSEARCHRES%26BackURL=Search%20Criteria‘>Search%20ResultsIf you look under view documents there are some scanned drawings
damn , that was to be my dublin gaff. it is a bit selfish to expect me to get sick to stay there, frankly.
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May 23, 2006 at 12:10 am #766000
GrahamH
Participant😀
Damn you LOB!!! Begone! –>
Very good, Aldborough House it is.
(the gate lodge to the right)
Can’t believe it took that long – gave the date away, quality masonry, late Georgian sashes, an air of tragedy to the place, Earl Stratford or rather his wife very much the Abbington set of the age – what more do you want?!
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May 24, 2006 at 1:16 am #766001
ctesiphon
ParticipantNever heard of it, mate.;)
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June 3, 2006 at 1:17 pm #766002
Anonymous
ParticipantIt is tucked in behind the five lamps as the image displays behind a high wall
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June 12, 2006 at 5:47 pm #766003
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June 12, 2006 at 6:11 pm #766004
ConK
ParticipantLangrishe Place, Yes. . . . but someone got it right on the last page.
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June 12, 2006 at 6:20 pm #766005
Anonymous
ParticipantIs Langrishe Place the narrow street that has some really attractive tall red bricks that were in very poor condition a couple of years back?
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June 24, 2006 at 1:35 pm #766006
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June 24, 2006 at 1:42 pm #766007
rashers
Participant@Thomond Park wrote:
Is Langrishe Place the narrow street that has some really attractive tall red bricks that were in very poor condition a couple of years back?
As I remember Langrishe Place it had 2 story houses on both sides. If you go into Summerhill from Parnell St it would be the first turn on the left.
At least thats how I remember it. As a kid, nearly 50 years ago, my pals and I used to race our ‘trollies’ down the hill of Langrishe Place and into Summerhill. 🙂
Just to remain on topic I’ll post a pic very soon. 😉 I like this topic. 🙂
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June 26, 2006 at 7:25 pm #766008
GrahamH
ParticipantWell in the meantime, a few more 🙂
A
B
C
D
E
D has tenuous architectural connections, but has become a recognisable part of one streetscape…
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June 26, 2006 at 7:53 pm #766009
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterA is Phisborough Church – St Peters (???)
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June 26, 2006 at 7:59 pm #766010
sw101
Participantstopcheatingbyrightclick.jpg. i love it.
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June 26, 2006 at 8:43 pm #766011
a boyle
ParticipantD is roches stores on henry street. dont post one like this again , i have been tearing my hair out for an hour! not fair.:) 🙂 🙂
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June 26, 2006 at 8:49 pm #766012
Frank Taylor
ParticipantB is Connaught House on Burlington Road
D is a fairly comon pendant lamp.
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June 26, 2006 at 9:50 pm #766013
d_d_dallas
ParticipantA St Peters???
B BOI on Mespill Rd
D Habitat or equivalent?
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June 27, 2006 at 1:10 am #766014
a boyle
ParticipantD is the lamp shade hanging in the long window of roches store (where the chocolat shop is)
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June 27, 2006 at 3:07 am #766015
GrahamH
ParticipantWell, one of fourteen lamp shades in the window a boyle, but yes, well spotted 🙂
(even if it is’t in the window :D)
Great interior to Chocolate Soup, if the air con rather chilly and noisy. Best mochas and most pleasant staff in Dublin:
And the regal St. Peter’s Phibsboro/Glasnevein it is:
Mespil Road office building spot on also d_d – nice building:
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June 27, 2006 at 3:37 am #766016
Frank Taylor
ParticipantIs C on Dame Street, near City Hall?
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June 28, 2006 at 1:31 am #766017
GrahamH
ParticipantNope, though I see where you’re coming from.
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June 28, 2006 at 1:11 pm #766018
hutton
Participant@Graham Hickey wrote:
Nope, though I see where you’re coming from.
A certain something peeking through the balustrade may give it away…Grrr … Ive been wrecking my head trying to figure out that grid-looking yoke in the background… Tis doing my head in…Maybe its not in Dublin at all but in Hedrek City 😀
Anyway throwing my toss at E,what say the Four Courts – left corner of the central block?
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June 28, 2006 at 1:31 pm #766019
jdivision
ParticipantIs C the church on the quays, next to Bank of Ireland (I think) with an office building in Smithfield behind it. Hutton put it into my head by mentioning the grid thing behind it.
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June 28, 2006 at 7:12 pm #766020
GrahamH
ParticipantNope – sorry jdivision 🙁
I thought this was the easiest of all! Part of the image is one of the most iconic elements of architecture in the city!
(A certain contrbutor’s continued abstinence on this image is much obliged ;))
Sorry hutton, E is not the Four Courts, though certainly along those lines…
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June 28, 2006 at 7:17 pm #766021
Sue
Participantis there a side of the GPO in there somewhere?
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June 28, 2006 at 7:25 pm #766022
Anonymous
InactiveI think C is the the south east corner of the the Custom House with part of Busaras in the background?
Is E Bank of Ireland on College Green?
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June 28, 2006 at 8:39 pm #766023
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterwell done phil….. i’m certain that you’re correct
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June 28, 2006 at 10:03 pm #766024
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June 29, 2006 at 1:49 am #766025
GrahamH
ParticipantAlmost Bren, and they’re very similar, but there’s no tell-tale projecting floodlight for it to be the Lords portico – rather it’s the principal entrance on College Green :), and the statue of what I presume to be Fidelity given the other more industrious looking statue seems more apt as Commerce.
It was taken on a bizarre dull day in the pelting rain with a giant crane erected in the forecourt of the BoI:
Don’t know what was going on – repair works to the roof perhaps.
Some took advantage of the rare opportunity to take a novelty photo with their phone 🙂And spot on Phil regarding the Custom House and the Bus
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June 29, 2006 at 10:35 am #766026
Anonymous
InactiveI think that building is on the corner of Lower Abbey Street and O’Connell Street (North East Corner)
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July 10, 2006 at 9:18 am #766027
SeamusOG
Participant@phil wrote:
I think that building is on the corner of Lower Abbey Street and O’Connell Street (North East Corner)
No confirmation yet. Could this still be outstanding?
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July 10, 2006 at 6:45 pm #766028
GrahamH
ParticipantOnly cause I forgot again Seamus – oops 😮
As if it needs confirming though – spot on Phil:
Grand Central was too obvious to use 😀
Two other quick easy ones:
A
B
Though not in focus, it is the domed building we’re after 🙂
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July 10, 2006 at 7:18 pm #766029
Anonymous
ParticipantFocus
you ironic man the Merchants Quay project is the first and the Church on Merchants Quay the second
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July 10, 2006 at 7:55 pm #766030
Anonymous
InactiveI don’t know about the first one, but I think that the second one is the Morrison Chambers on the corner of Nassau Street and Dawson Street (Easons)
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July 12, 2006 at 12:43 am #766031
GrahamH
ParticipantThe delightful Morrison Chambers it is 🙂
And the Merchant’s Quay friary building:
..with surprisingly ridiculous pediments on the top floor.
Might as well do these three then, but that’s it.
C
D (:))
E
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July 12, 2006 at 7:36 am #766032
SeamusOG
ParticipantI think E is the very low railway bridge on Grand Canal Quay. Just beside that nice glass ESAT building.
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July 12, 2006 at 11:56 am #766033
urbanisto
ParticipantD is the floating thingies beside Sean O’Casey Bridge…..with a full-to-the-brim seagull eyeing the balustrade of the Boardwalk.
Hmmm C is on Dame Street I think, or is it in Trinity College
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July 12, 2006 at 12:18 pm #766034
hutton
ParticipantRofl 😀 ; Thats a stoic looking seagull, but what has that got to do with arch? That said, I think Seamus is on the right track –
@Seamus O’G wrote:
I think E is the very low railway bridge on Grand Canal Quay. Just beside that nice glass ESAT building.
@Graham Hickey wrote:
Might as well do these three then, but that’s it..
Cant be it, is it? Tis too much fun 🙁
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July 12, 2006 at 6:33 pm #766035
Anonymous
InactiveIs C one of the buildings on the bottom part of Grafton Street? The one with Specsavers in it?
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/grafton_street/specsavers.html
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July 12, 2006 at 7:11 pm #766036
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July 13, 2006 at 12:44 pm #766037
Sue
Participantis E the underpass under harold’s cross bridge?
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July 13, 2006 at 4:29 pm #766038
SeamusOG
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Or is it the bridge just off Pearse Street? Sandwith Street, I think.
That may be more likely. I think there are more tracks on the bridge at that point so the bridge would probably be wider, which could explain the darkness over the left hand side of the picture. Unfortunately I am not in Dublin at the moment, ‘cos I’d love to go down and see.
@Sue wrote:
is E the underpass under harold’s cross bridge?
Hmmm, hadn’t thought of either of the canals. Though for some reason it reminds me of some tales that have been related to me of the Liffey swim. Due to the handicapping system, the swimmers all start to bunch up coming up to O’Connell Bridge. As a result of this, and the massive width of the bridge, you get a whole heap of swimmers swimming under the bridge in almost complete darkness. Quite an experience, I’m told.
Come to think of it, maybe it could be the underside of one of the Liffey bridges. But how would you take such a photo, except from our new bateau mouche.
Or maybe Graham Hickey is a boating man himself?
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July 13, 2006 at 11:50 pm #766039
GrahamH
ParticipantPffft – as much as Oid loike to be roightsh, I’m not 🙂
Your first observation was spot on Seamus – the tiny little bridge on Grand Canal Quay. An extraordinary piece of engineering; Victorian masonry at its very very best. Made up of long elegant strips of granite structured in a diagonal fashion, it is a truly remarkable thing.
Sandwith St was close though! – just it’s a bit higher and more conventional in masonry.Also correct as usual Phil, very well spotted on lower Grafton Street. Definitely one of the nicest infills in the city along with its matching limestone neighbour:
And the Se
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July 13, 2006 at 11:52 pm #766040
Morlan
Participanta
b
c
d
e
f
g
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July 13, 2006 at 11:53 pm #766041
Morlan
ParticipantOhh, we posted at the same time 🙂 Plenty for them to chew on anyway,
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July 13, 2006 at 11:55 pm #766042
GrahamH
Participantlol – how very topical 😀
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July 14, 2006 at 12:01 am #766043
Morlan
ParticipantIs that your RX8 parked under the bridge?
H isn’t nearish to the liberties, is it?
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July 14, 2006 at 10:58 am #766044
Anonymous
InactiveI think C is the former ICS building between D’Olier Street and Westmorland Street, and I think G is the Buger King on Lower O’Connell Street!
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July 14, 2006 at 1:51 pm #766045
ctesiphon
ParticipantGraham Hickey wrote:And thanks for picking up the hint ctesiphon – some others would be welcome ]
We’ll try, but the challenge is to get ones that’ll stump you in particular- might have to initiate a rule that you’re not allowed guess until someone else has tried first!.:) I have one in mind, but access probably requires Govt approval. Leave it with me.Morlan’s pics:
Is F the Temple Bar Gallery and Studio?
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July 14, 2006 at 3:58 pm #766046
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterIs B Morans Hotel on Gardiner Street?
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July 14, 2006 at 7:29 pm #766047
GrahamH
ParticipantDon’t think so – it has a nasty pinky red dirty brick, whereas that orangey brickwork and detailing almost looks Victorian…
South Great George’s St perhaps? That cornice is tricky.E is the entrance to the Seamen’s Institute on Eden Quay.
D is a fantastic one Morlan – deceptive in its impression of size.
I’d recognise that dodgy floodlight anywhere :). Won’t give it away, other than it’s a view from a certain car park…@ctesiphon wrote:
We’ll try, but the challenge is to get ones that’ll stump you in particular- might have to initiate a rule that you’re not allowed guess until someone else has tried first!.
Quite the opposite in fact – think I’ve proved to be quite useless at this game, hence my staying firmly behind the scenes of late 😀
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July 14, 2006 at 8:06 pm #766048
Morlan
Participant@phil wrote:
I think C is the former ICS building between D’Olier Street and Westmorland Street,
Yup – 1916 parade
@ctesiphon wrote:
Is F the Temple Bar Gallery and Studio?!
🙁
@phil wrote:
I think G is the Buger King on Lower O’Connell Street!
😀
@Graham Hickey wrote:
South Great George’s St perhaps?
It looks like it belongs there, but no.
E is the entrance to the Seamen’s Institute on Eden Quay.
Good work
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July 14, 2006 at 9:18 pm #766049
d_d_dallas
ParticipantF is the ESB building on Misery Hill (with the chimney with the “Grand Canal Harbour” banner just peeking through?)
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July 14, 2006 at 10:05 pm #766050
hutton
ParticipantHow about Exchequer St for B ? 🙂
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July 15, 2006 at 12:41 pm #766051
Sue
ParticipantIs F the library extension at Trinity College?
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July 15, 2006 at 1:59 pm #766052
Morlan
Participant@d_d_dallas wrote:
F is the ESB building on Misery Hill (with the chimney with the “Grand Canal Harbour” banner just peeking through?)
Bingo
@hutton wrote:
How about Exchequer St for B ? 🙂
Incredibly loud buzzer
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July 15, 2006 at 2:04 pm #766053
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July 16, 2006 at 3:10 pm #766054
urbanisto
ParticipantIs it the Hotel above Hogans on SGSt?
Is “A” Broadstone Station
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July 16, 2006 at 6:20 pm #766055
hutton
Participant@StephenC wrote:
Is it the Hotel above Hogans on SGSt? Is “A” Broadstone Station
Re A, thats what I was thinking – Central Hotel on corner of Exchequer St – but Morlan says its not on SG St….Re B, I dont think its Broadstone as thats all Greek Revival, and this emblem is 2nd millenium classicism – what say the side of Heuston Station instead ? 😉
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July 17, 2006 at 12:47 pm #766056
urbanisto
ParticipantIt could also be that kippy guesthouse on the corner of Gardiner Street and Talbot Street (the name escapes me)
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July 22, 2006 at 12:36 pm #766057
SeamusOG
ParticipantThree out of Morlan‘s seven still look to be outstanding.
We’re losing it lads.:p
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July 23, 2006 at 7:11 am #766058
Morlan
Participant@StephenC wrote:
Is it the Hotel above Hogans on SGSt?
Is “A” Broadstone Station
No. But you’re close enough – think rail. Absolutely nay cigar though 🙁
hutton wrote:Re A, thats what I was thinking – Central Hotel on corner of Exchequer St – but Morlan says its not on SG St….Re B, I dont think its Broadstone as thats all Greek Revival, and this emblem is 2nd millenium classicism – what say the side of Heuston Station instead ? ]It looks so Exchequer Streetish.. but it’s not on the southside!
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Graham, you might aswell give the answer for D. I know you’re itching to!
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July 23, 2006 at 4:32 pm #766059
hutton
ParticipantCant believe I described Broadstone as Greek Revival; it is of course Egyptian Revival – so 😮 😮 to me!
Hey Morlan, what say Jimmys place on Amiens St for A…Choo, choo, choo 🙂
B is really doing my head in at this stage. I think SoG is right – but its worse than he says; 4 outstanding, not 3! We are losing it :confused: 😡 🙁 …But dont give away the game just yet, I know well get there eventually –
As for G is it on hoarding around a site under construction? Come on give us a clue;)
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July 23, 2006 at 5:09 pm #766060
GrahamH
ParticipantThat is one colourful post hutton 🙂
B is so very difficult alright. So we know it’s a hotel, we know it’s on the northside, it’s probably south facing given the bright sky and sun, and appears to be very late Victorian, though with a rebuilt 1920s attic storey?
Thought it might be Beresford Place, but no.
Talbot St by any chance, in the middle or near the BoI outside Connolly?
Or Parnell St perhaps?A is tricky too – feel like I pass it every day, but can’t place it! Those projecting bays look very distinctive.
D looks huge, like the base of Connolly’s tower…
…but is in fact the little clocktower of the former Mercer’s Hospital 🙂
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July 23, 2006 at 6:10 pm #766061
SeamusOG
ParticipantOh. Good photo.
But, just as a matter of interest, from which car park was the original taken?
One would imagine it must have been either from the RCSI or St. Stephen’s Green Car Park.
Or could it even be Drury Street?
Nothing would now surprise me.:D
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July 23, 2006 at 9:21 pm #766062
Morlan
ParticipantHutton – G has already been answered. It’s Burger King on O’C St!
Well done Graham. It’s the Stephen’s Green SC car park.
OK, B is The Clifton Court Hotel/Met Bar on Eden Quay
The red brick is typicaly Georges St/Exchq St. I knew it would throw yez off.
And here’s a little more of A….
Common!
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July 23, 2006 at 9:34 pm #766063
hutton
ParticipantFeck, feck, feck. I would never have got that; with the string coursing band, Id have expected it to continue – and so too a floor at that level.
A obviously isnt Connolly; so there too I am wrong:(
And as you say G was got already. Maybe the blind (ie me who sould have seen that mentioned already) shouldnt be playing this game
*puts on coat, gets up and goes home – head hanging in shame* 🙁 😮 🙁
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August 3, 2006 at 10:25 am #766064
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August 3, 2006 at 10:37 am #766065
Anonymous
InactiveI think it is the Irish Rail Freight Offices beside Spencer Dock. It only dawned on me when you said rail and I saw the red brick.
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August 5, 2006 at 6:10 pm #766066
Morlan
ParticipantWell done Philip. 🙂
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September 4, 2006 at 7:34 pm #766067
Anonymous
InactiveI am sure Graham and Morlan have got fed up with being the only ones contributing to this, so I thought I would try to upload a few very easy ones for people to have a go at.
A:
B:
C:
D:
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September 4, 2006 at 8:29 pm #766068
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterbites tongue…. must dig out a few for the next round
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September 4, 2006 at 8:48 pm #766069
Blisterman
ParticipantIs A Heuston Station?
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September 4, 2006 at 9:26 pm #766070
Anonymous
ParticipantC Iveagh Market????
D Pepper Canister from Herbert Place
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September 4, 2006 at 9:28 pm #766071
DJM
ParticipantHere’s a stab in the dark…
A – Pearse St Station
B – An Iveagh Trust building
C – Pepper Cannister
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September 4, 2006 at 10:23 pm #766072
LOB
ParticipantA – Pearse St Station (Westland Row)
B – Dublin City Fruit Markets
C – St Stephens Church (Pepper Canister)
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September 4, 2006 at 11:08 pm #766073
GrahamH
Participantoooh – so close to a hole in one. Alas A is Pearse Station.:D 😉
Do the granite blocks in the National Gallery columns ever remind anyone of firelighters?
No?
Okay… 😮
Four more below – took them so long ago even I barely know where they are.
F
G
H
I
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September 5, 2006 at 1:04 am #766074
ctesiphon
ParticipantA few more? Why not. These are just oldies from the archive (all within the canal ring)- I’m planning something far more dastardly if the opportunity to snap it presents itself.
1:
2:
3:
4:
Graham- any chance you could give everyone else a head start of, say, 24 hours?:)
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September 5, 2006 at 10:01 am #766075
Anonymous
InactiveWell done LOB. You got them all in one. Apart of course from Pearse St Station, because that doesn’t exist :D.
Graham, Is F the railings on the North of Parnell Square and G that red brick office block on Lincoln Place where the Turkish Baths used to be?
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September 5, 2006 at 2:02 pm #766076
urbanisto
ParticipantF is the railing of the Rotunda on Parnell Square South, the northside railing are blue.
G – I agree with Lincoln Place
H is on Talbot Street, just up towards Marlborough Street. Theres a lot of desperately-in-need-of-paint jobs along this street.
Is No 2 the arches of The Vaults bar under Connolly
Is No 3 around Bridgefoot Street?
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September 5, 2006 at 2:21 pm #766077
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterIs G the Elan building on Lincoln Place – opposite Trinity Gates
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September 5, 2006 at 2:36 pm #766078
ctesiphon
ParticipantStephen (and others)-
Agreed on F, G and H.
But 2 and 3- alas, no.
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September 5, 2006 at 2:57 pm #766079
jdivision
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Stephen (and others)-
Agreed on F, G and H.
But 2 and 3- alas, no.
I think 2 is chq basement but if not it could be the cafe under Grand Canal Dock dart station. Is 3 somewhere in Ranelagh or maybe on the Richmond Road. Tip of the tongue but can’t remember it. Number 4 I think is off Cork St and was linked to a timber merchant
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September 6, 2006 at 12:51 am #766080
ctesiphon
Participant@jdivision wrote:
I think 2 is chq basement
Spot on. I thought this one might be trickier, damn you!:)
@jdivision wrote:
Is 3 somewhere in Ranelagh or maybe on the Richmond Road.
Neither.
@jdivision wrote:
Number 4 I think is off Cork St and was linked to a timber merchant
You’re probably right, though the timber merchant business is news to me. I’ll leave it open in case anyone else has a more accurate (not more correct, just more accurate;) ) guess.
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September 6, 2006 at 11:42 am #766081
jdivision
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Spot on. I thought this one might be trickier, damn you!:)
I was in it before the work started in earnest a few years ago so recognised it from that. Otherwise I think we could have been here a while. 🙂
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September 20, 2006 at 3:40 pm #766082
SeamusOG
ParticipantA lot of outstanding pictures outstanding here, from two contributors.
I wonder if 3 mightn’t be in or around Grand Parade or Northbrook Road? It does have the feel of an old railway bridge, for some reason. Maybe too “Ranelagh” though, which has already been discounted.
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September 20, 2006 at 4:15 pm #766083
Rory W
Participant3 is Longford Street isn’t it
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September 20, 2006 at 6:29 pm #766084
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September 20, 2006 at 7:12 pm #766085
GrahamH
Participantoooh good guess Rory. Didn’t get that one.
Yes the warehouse is definitely recognisable as being in the Cork St area, but cannot for the life of me think where No 1 is:(great pic btw ctesiphon)
I feel I know the trees better than the building! The bond is suggestive of the 1950s, while the expansion joints hint at a very large wall indeed, rather than a flat block gable or similar. The apparent use of granite in the upper band is also odd if a Corpo development…
Bah!All the above answers were correct – the front railings of the Rotunda, and the ode to red brick that is Lincoln House, on the site of the former Turkish Baths opposite the Dental Hospital:
And a grand decaying Victorian on Talbot Street:
And as is established practice in Ireland, the ground floor has a ginormous feck-off FX BUCKLEY FAMILY BUTCHERS double heritage shopfront partly straddling the property. Cost a bomb, while the upper floors are left to rot away. Not the fault of the ground floor tenants, but a situation representative of a city-wide problem.
So only ctesiphon’s No1:
and this are left:
hmmmm…
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September 20, 2006 at 7:26 pm #766086
jdivision
ParticipantIs cstephion’s No 1 just off Wilton Place and is the other one the IIB HQ
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September 20, 2006 at 9:26 pm #766087
SeamusOG
Participant1 also reminds me a bit of Loftus Lane, at the back of the whole cinema (Virgin/UGC) complex on Parnell Street. Unlikely to be, though, if it’s been placed in the 1950’s by Graham H, who knows considerably more than me. (And at a much tenderer age, too.:D )
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September 20, 2006 at 9:46 pm #766088
Devin
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September 20, 2006 at 11:07 pm #766089
ctesiphon
ParticipantYesss!!! I finally thwarted GrahamH.!:) (Sorry- I’m sure you understand.)
@Seamus O’G wrote:
1 also reminds me a bit of Loftus Lane, at the back of the whole cinema (Virgin/UGC) complex on Parnell Street. Unlikely to be, though, if it’s been placed in the 1950’s by Graham H, who knows considerably more than me. (And at a much tenderer age, too.:D )
Oh he makes a good argument alright, but trust your instinct on the dating front, Seamus. Maybe not as late as Virgin, but it’s not as early as the 1950s either. Not Wilton Place either, I’m afraid, jd.
Re the warehouse- I’ll come clean. It’s opposite Grey’s pub on the corner of Ardee Street and Newmarket in the Coombe. It’d be cruel to withhold any more- you were close enough, GH and jd.
PS Graham- fwiw, I’m thwarted by your outstanding one too. I’m presuming it’s a corner seen from under some eaves, but I’m not even sure of that.
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September 20, 2006 at 11:21 pm #766090
GrahamH
Participant:p
Yours is a tricky one. I was dithering between 50s and 60s – on reflection it has a slightly later quality to it, as that pinkiness we see was more of a wine colour in the 50s. It’s certainly not as late as the 1980s, let alone 1990s. The presumed granite also suggests a commercial or flagship public property perhaps?
It really is very odd having brick continuing onto the second floor, ruling out a number of office developments of the period.Give us a clue – north or south side? 😉
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September 20, 2006 at 11:48 pm #766091
ctesiphon
ParticipantOh I’d be wary of using words like ‘certainly’, if I were you. Seamus might start to lose faith in you.:D
You’re right about the brick to the first floor- one of the reasons why I posted this shot. It does set it apart a bit from many other buildings it might otherwise be confused with. Flagship? Not really. Commercial? Yes, but maybe not in the traditional sense. Also, notice the lack of windows…?;)
And it’s southside (within the canals) but that’s all I’m giving you.
Okay- one more hint (it’s only fair, I think): the building is nothing special, but it’s in a great location deserving of something far better than this anonymous edifice.
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October 10, 2006 at 5:10 pm #766092
SeamusOG
ParticipantThe unsolved photo from GrahamH….
Every time I look at it I see the underside of the roof of the Lansdowne Road West Stand, with the (relatively) new TV box on the right hand side of the photo. As it might be seen from the southbound platform at Lansdowne Road DART station, or out on Lansdowne Road itself (Dodder side of the railway).
Yet I think the front of the roof of the stand is “straight” rather than, as shown in the photo, with regular protrusions. Plus it’s outside the canals. I’m sure the whole idea is crazy.
A clue, perhaps.:)
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October 10, 2006 at 6:42 pm #766093
GrahamH
ParticipantYou can rest assured Seamus that I have never ventured inside a rugby stadium in my life :p – my closest point to Lansdowne also being the DART station.
Though saying that, the picture is not a million miles from another rugby pitch…
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October 10, 2006 at 7:00 pm #766094
ctesiphon
ParticipantCroke Park?
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October 10, 2006 at 7:18 pm #766095
SeamusOG
ParticipantHmm….near a rugby pitch.
Could it be the loading bay for the Samuel Beckett theatre in Trinity – where all the backdrops and so forth are delivered. Somewhere around there.
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October 10, 2006 at 7:51 pm #766096
GrahamH
Participantoooh we’re getting close…
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October 10, 2006 at 8:05 pm #766097
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster@GrahamH wrote:
So only ctesiphon’s No1:
this one is really starting to bug me – i know i know it, I just cannot pull it out of the recesses of my mind
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October 11, 2006 at 8:20 am #766098
DOC
ParticipantIs No.1 DIT Cathal Brugha Street?
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October 11, 2006 at 8:21 am #766099
DOC
ParticipantOr possibly the little church opposite?
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October 11, 2006 at 1:32 pm #766100
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October 11, 2006 at 7:17 pm #766101
ctesiphon
ParticipantSeamus- I think you might be onto something with that guess.
DOC- Sorry, neither DIT nor the church.
Paul- sorry for the torture. 🙂
Another hint? It’s very close to one of the other buildings featured over the last couple of pages. If one were to visit each of those, the location of this would be immediately apparent.
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October 24, 2006 at 6:00 pm #766102
SeamusOG
ParticipantCtesiphon – your one is south of the river, between the canal and the river. At this rate, it’s looking like we may need to find out if it’s D2 or D8.:o
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October 24, 2006 at 6:41 pm #766103
Anonymous
InactiveIsn’t “The Wall” the one on the lane down at the back of Guinesses, near their Enterprise Centre?
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October 24, 2006 at 6:45 pm #766104
Paul Clerkin
Keymastercould be – for some reason i’m sure its in d8 but that’s all i can pull out of my head…
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October 25, 2006 at 12:12 pm #766105
ctesiphon
ParticipantSorry KB2- not Guinnessland. Though not a million miles away either.
Paul/Seamus- it’s D8.
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October 25, 2006 at 8:43 pm #766106
SeamusOG
Participant@Ctesiphon wrote:
Flagship? Not really. Commercial? Yes, but maybe not in the traditional sense. Also, notice the lack of windows…?
@Ctesiphon wrote:
Another hint? It’s very close to one of the other buildings featured over the last couple of pages. If one were to visit each of those, the location of this would be immediately apparent.
@Ctesiphon wrote:
Sorry KB2- not Guinnessland. Though not a million miles away either
@Ctesiphon wrote:
it’s D8
From a stumped Sherlock Holmes: The car park at the back of the statoil garage on Ussher’s Quay.
😀
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October 25, 2006 at 10:49 pm #766107
ctesiphon
ParticipantI’m a frayed knot.:)
Contrary to what some might think, I’m not revelling in anyone’s frustration. I’m dying for someone to get it. If anyone’s desperate for a sound night’s sleep, pm me and I can put you out of your misery.
Also, I’ve been tinkering with some crossword-style clues, if anyone’s interested?:o
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October 25, 2006 at 11:13 pm #766108
GrahamH
ParticipantGo on then – do your worst 🙂
Yes I’d have assumed it to be in the Dublin 8 area alright – still for the life of me can’t think were.
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October 25, 2006 at 11:37 pm #766109
Paul Clerkin
Keymasteris it around aungier street dit
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October 25, 2006 at 11:38 pm #766110
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterscrub that aungier street is still d2
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October 25, 2006 at 11:46 pm #766111
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October 26, 2006 at 1:58 am #766112
ctesiphon
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
Go on then – do your worst 🙂
My worst, you say?
When the Dominicans look in the mirror, they will know their place. (8)
You might feed your sheep here, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)
Don’t rely on Fergus to meet you at the races. (9)
By itself. (6)I’m not sure if this’ll make things better or worse. I feel apologies in advance might be in order.
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October 26, 2006 at 11:00 am #766113
SeamusOG
Participant[quote=”
ctesiphon”:1aqfgnv0]
When the Dominicans look in the mirror, they will know their place. (8)
You might feed your sheep here, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)
Don’t rely on Fergus to meet you at the races. (9)
By itself. (6)Oh great! Crossword clues! I love crosswords! I love crossword clues! I hope he’s going to have some for us who do the simplex! l’m so ‘xcited!
:p
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October 26, 2006 at 12:03 pm #766114
ctesiphon
ParticipantMy colleague, who has considerably more crossword experience than I, has suggested that the third clue needs revision. Also, he thinks I shoud clarify that the four words for a (sort of) sentence – something like ‘Baggot Street beside hospital’ or ‘bridge with stone arches’ – that gives the location of the building but not its name. Lastly, he thinks the first clue is a stinker, but I’m not changing it.:)
So the revised clue for word three is:
Here, on Fergus, I’ll buy and sell you at the races. (9)
If I have time before these clues are guessed, I’ll try to do up a little crossword and scan it in.
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October 26, 2006 at 1:16 pm #766115
SeamusOG
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
So the revised clue for word three is:
Here, on Fergus, I’ll buy and sell you at the races. (9)
So, it must be somewhere in “Newmarket”. Or near there.
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October 26, 2006 at 1:24 pm #766116
dodger
Participantthe second word must be Green.
I wonder does the first word have something to do with the opposite of dominiks’s place as ‘refelected’ in theliffey – this would be close to Newmarket. Though i can’t think of an eight letter word to fit this.
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October 26, 2006 at 1:44 pm #766117
ctesiphon
Participant@Seamus O’G wrote:
So, it must be somewhere in “Newmarket”. Or near there.
Ding ding ding!!! Go to the head of the class, Seamus. 🙂
But the second word’s not ‘green’, dodger. And you’re way closer to the first word than you might realise.
I’ll leave it open for now- the full ‘sentence’ is worth working out, I think.
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October 28, 2006 at 5:15 pm #766118
SeamusOG
ParticipantEm, if there’s anybody out there who hasn’t yet started this Saturday’s version of “The Listener” crossword in The Times, could they give us a hand here.
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October 28, 2006 at 7:58 pm #766119
GrahamH
Participant🙂
Yeah ctesiphon, your colleague speaks wise words – bail us out here would ya?
The Dominican clue would indeed appear to suggest a mirror image site on the opposite side of the Liffey, which fits Newmarket rather nicely, near which there is another convent according to my Dublin map (
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October 29, 2006 at 11:45 am #766120
SeamusOG
Participant([whisper]Graham, just while we’re waiting for further clues, was your last photo actually the Luce Sports Hall and the railway track, or should we keep thinking[/whisper]);)
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October 31, 2006 at 1:58 am #766121
ctesiphon
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
When the Dominicans look in the mirror, they will know their place. (8)
You might feed your sheep here, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)
Here, on Fergus, I’ll buy and sell you at the races. (9)
By itself. (6)In order, they form a sentence that gives the location:
Opposite
Gray’s
Newmarket
SquareSemi-industrial comes closest, Graham. It’s the Beverly Records Management warehouse on Newmarket.
Sweet dreams, one and all.:)
The full shot. Note the gracefully curving tyre marks in the foreground from the local boyos.
The corner of the building (left). The epitome of ‘the decorated shed’?
The derelict warehouse nearby (re previous clue), and the corner of Gray’s pub (right).
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October 31, 2006 at 4:45 am #766122
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterI knew I knew it – I used to shortcut through Newmarket from Thomas Street on my way to the SCR
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October 31, 2006 at 6:36 pm #766123
SeamusOG
ParticipantThank you, ctesiphon, for putting us out of our misery.
That must have taken over from Aldborough House as the longest unsolved building in this great thread. And it wasn’t actually solved in the end.:o
Obviously we need to work on our knowledge of Dublin 8.:)
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October 31, 2006 at 9:31 pm #766124
GrahamH
ParticipantIndeed! Not even knowing the building in the first instance tends to generate difficulties 😮
A great one ctesiphon, and a striking picture too of your ladies in red – don’t think it’s been mentioned.
So what of this place – what was it built for and when? A very odd looking affair; surely they’re not Portland dressings are they? I stand by the 50s-60s estimate 🙂Nope Mr O’G – that earlier picture wasn’t Luce Hall in TCD 😉
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November 1, 2006 at 10:36 am #766125
Anonymous
InactiveGraham, for some reason I think your unsolved image is The Museum Building in Trinity, with the Berkeley beyond it, but I cannot figure out from what angle it is taken. This of course leads me to believe that it is not it, but I decided to give it a shot anyway.
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November 1, 2006 at 7:34 pm #766126
ctesiphon
ParticipantSeamus et al-
My vanity is encouraging me to ask whether the crossword clues made sense, or if they’re as baffling as ever, i.e. did you work out why the Dominicans led to ‘opposite’, for example?Graham-
Don’t think the stone is Portland, though I’m pretty sure it is stone rather than concrete. I think they were purpose built as warehouses, possibly even for the company that currently occupies them today. I lived in the area a few years ago and I was struck by the ‘facadist’ nature of the buildings, as though the local authority had said ‘You can build bland boxes, but for heaven’s sake put a nice front on them!’ (I’d still lean towards a date no earlier than mid-1980s or so.:) )Newmarket is a strange place- it reminds me of parts of Edinburgh. I suppose this is mainly because its name recalls the Grassmarket and Haymarket, but also slightly because of its spatial quality. Maybe hard to see when it’s surrounded by crud such as the above and poxy tax-break apartments, but if you squint hard enough… This is why I said it was a dull building ill-befitting the location; I’d love to see Newmarket developed as a proper open space in the heart of the old city instead of being left to the boy-racers to practice their handbrake turns at 3 in the morning (though its openness is one of its best qualities- wouldn’t want it to be cluttered with street furniture junk and inappropriate vegetation). There’s a promising new development at the western end on the way (mentioned in a thread a while back on new Coombe developments), but I don’t know if there are any plans for the square itself. Interestingly, the square isn’t that old. The Edinburgh echoes led me to think it must have been an actual historic market square, but I heard somewhere that it was only laid out like that in the late 19th century or so. Must chase up the facts on it. Anyone know?
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November 2, 2006 at 11:08 am #766127
SeamusOG
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
My vanity is encouraging me to ask whether the crossword clues made sense, or if they’re as baffling as ever, i.e. did you work out why the Dominicans led to ‘opposite’, for example?
Well it always easier to “see” the answer to the clues when you’ve seen it…:o
@ctesiphon wrote:
When the Dominicans look in the mirror, they will know their place. (8)
You might feed your sheep here, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)
Here, on Fergus, I’ll buy and sell you at the races. (9)
By itself. (6)By and large, they’re good clues. I’m still not sure about #2, and #1 may need a bit of brushing up, in the unlikely event that you’ll be using it again!
I think #4 was an excellent clue. Would absolutely not be out of place in any of the great crosswords. #3 perhaps was perhaps overstating the whole market thing – Newmarket-on-Fergus, buy and sell, the races (Newmarket). It might be better here to have divided the clue into two parts. One part could be used to generate the words “New” and “Market”, and the second part might be “at the races” or something which would lead us to think of “Newmarket”. As it stands, the word “New” would not, I think, be generated by any of the words in the current clue. Now, what such a clue would be, I really am not able to say.
My quibble with #1 is that if the Dominicans were to look in the mirror, which has been identified by a couple of posters as the river Liffey, they would see somewhere like Aungier Street or South Great George’s Street, I would think. That’s assuming that you are talking about the Dominicans in the Friary on Dominick Street/Dorset Street. It might have been better in this case to consider the Capuchins, whose headquarters is on Halston Street but whose larger Church is the one on Church Street. Looking from there into the “mirror” would bring you much closer to the location of this warehouse. Unless of course the Dominicans were to look in the mirror at an angle, rather than along the more obvious north-south axis. Hmmm.
I’m afraid I still don’t get the sheep connection in #2.
And some of the above points may well be put down to the ungraciousness of the defeated:D
Thanks for putting up the photos and the clues. Oh yeah, and the answer.:) That last photo kept me and it looks like several others entertained and puzzled for a long time.
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November 2, 2006 at 12:50 pm #766128
SeamusOG
ParticipantHow about:
Fresh location for buying and selling, or for horse racing.
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November 2, 2006 at 4:34 pm #766129
ctesiphon
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
When the Dominicans look in the mirror, they will know their place. (8)
You might feed your sheep here, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)
Here, on Fergus, I’ll buy and sell you at the races. (9)
By itself. (6)Thanks Seamus. Too kind.:)
1) Dominicans = Order of Preachers = OP]opposite[/I].
2) Feed sheep = graze; Aren’t black, or white = grey: So Gray’s.
3) We know.
4) (For the others, Seamus): when you multiply a number by itself you get its Square.
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November 2, 2006 at 6:25 pm #766130
SeamusOG
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
1) Dominicans = Order of Preachers = OP]opposite[/I].
Oooooh, very good. I didn’t know they were the Order of Preachers. Completely distracted by the Dominicans on Dominic Street. You were right not to change the clue under duress from your colleague.
2) Feed sheep = graze; Aren’t black, or white = grey: So Gray’s.
You could perhaps have put in “sounds like” at the beginning of the clue here? Still good though.
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November 2, 2006 at 10:23 pm #766131
GrahamH
ParticipantYeah grey was the only one that I got 😮 – but agreed with Seamus that the stating of a location (‘here’) in the clue led us too far astray. “Munching sheep, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)” might be more appropriate…
Fantastically cryptic first clue, but I think you also unintentionally led us astray with this, ctesiphon, when you suggested the Liffey theory to be “far closer than you might think” – when you were in fact really talking about the reflection. Saying that, I was wary of this, as given your usual concise self, Newmarket is hardly an accurate reflection of the Dominican complex across the Liffey, so it kinda had to be something else. The level of elusiveness employed here was also a little inconsistent with the other clues, so it didn’t really encourage one to delve much deeper.
But all in all a very testing round 🙂 – nice neat final clue too.No cryptic hints regarding the below, only to say that there is no open sky in this photograph. It’s not the Museum Building alas Phil, though i see how the frilly edging resembles its string course detailing.
Just because it’s within sight of the rugby pitch doesn’t actually mean it’s an educational building…
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November 10, 2006 at 3:01 pm #766132
SeamusOG
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
No cryptic hints regarding the below, only to say that there is no open sky in this photograph.
Putting it in simple terms, this photo includes a black bit on the left, a white bit in the middle and a greyish bit on the right. The white bit gives the initial impression of clouds, perhaps indicating that this photo was taken on an overcast Dublin day.
Being pedantic, I suppose it could still be indicative of clouds, which might not necessarily be “open sky” (as in the blue stuff we see on a sunny day) in everybody’s book. But that would be too devious and clearly not what was intended in the above quote.
So that white bit in the middle is most probably a wall.
In summary, I think what we’re looking for here is a white wall somewhere within sight of College Park.
Anyone know a white wall somewhere within sight of College Park?:D
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November 10, 2006 at 4:12 pm #766133
ctesiphon
ParticipantTo these eyes, the white and grey bits are either two similarly coloured walls, the grey one being more in shadow because the dark strip in the middle is a corner, or else two walls in the same plane with some class of expansion joint in between.
One question- is the photo the right way up, or has it been rotated? Unlikely, but I must ask to eliminate some confusion.
Also, Graham- to clarify, when I said dodger wat way closer to the first word than s/he might think, it wasn’t a ‘Liffey theory’ I was referring to, it was the fact that dodger used the word ‘opposite’ in his/her guess.
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November 11, 2006 at 4:03 am #766134
GrahamH
ParticipantI know! But we didn’t know then – that’s the point! 🙂
I am really surprised the above building hasn’t been pounced on yet – it’s been discussed a number of times on this forum in relation to a specific matter of its ‘being’ (though probably before both your times cte & Seamus :o). A very prominent structure too – not at all a minor location.
And an embarrassing correction: it is not visible from Trnity’s rugby pitch, at all in fact. However it is very near as originally stated..
Indeed I saw it only today – definitely a building you will pass one day with the light catching on it, and will immediately correlate with the abstraction above. -
November 11, 2006 at 4:09 am #766135
GrahamH
ParticipantOh – and it’s not tilted or otherwise doctored in any way.
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November 13, 2006 at 5:52 pm #766136
Anonymous
Inactive@GrahamH wrote:
It’s not the Museum Building alas Phil, though i see how the frilly edging resembles its string course detailing.
Ooh, Graham, this is causing me sleepless nights at this stage 🙂
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November 21, 2006 at 2:09 pm #766137
SeamusOG
Participant@phil wrote:
Ooh, Graham, this is causing me sleepless nights at this stage 🙂
I have a few new ideas, but I am not entirely sure as of yet.Would some kind resident of Dublin get up on their bicycle, do a few laps of TCD, report back here and hopefully put us out of our misery?;)
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November 21, 2006 at 4:00 pm #766138
CM00
ParticipantIt’s blatantly the cottage at Lansdowne Road??
.. just read through the thread properly.. oops!
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November 21, 2006 at 4:27 pm #766139
Anonymous
InactiveSeamus O’G wrote:Would some kind resident of Dublin get up on their bicycle, do a few laps of TCD, report back here and hopefully put us out of our misery?]I have done a fair few laps at this stage (not with the sole intention of looking for this I must ad :)) and still can’t figure out where it is.
I am not sure if it is taken from within Trinity though.
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November 21, 2006 at 5:22 pm #766140
CM00
ParticipantIs it the Pav?
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November 21, 2006 at 10:00 pm #766141
GrahamH
ParticipantNope not the Pav roigsh, though it’s loike, on thash soide of the campus alroighsh CM 🙂
Is it a campus building, or is it a city building though? Hmmm…
I can’t give the materials away as you’ll get it instantly. All I can say is focus on the frilly edge – it is by no means a minor detail on this building. It features prominently on the facade. So dominant indeed that it’s probably not even noticable.
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November 22, 2006 at 12:13 pm #766142
ctesiphon
ParticipantThe meeting of the planes might suggest the Milennium wing of the NGI by Benson & Forsyth, but I can’t reconcile the ‘frilly’ bit with the sharpness of the B&F building in my mind.
Might try the bike ride at lunchtime, Seamus.
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November 22, 2006 at 2:20 pm #766143
Rory W
ParticipantIs it the Coyle Hamilton Willis Building?
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November 22, 2006 at 4:45 pm #766144
urbanisto
ParticipantIs it the Kildare St Club /Alliance Francais building across the street?
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November 22, 2006 at 7:35 pm #766145
GrahamH
ParticipantAfraid not Stephen – though an excellent guess. It suits it perfectly. Not Coyle Hamilton Willis either Rory – evident by the fact that the lens didn’t crack 🙂
However neither is far off – we’re getting much warmer. Don’t think decorative motif with the frills – rather texture..
Two quick and easy ones in the meantime 🙂
A
B
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November 27, 2006 at 2:36 am #766146
ctesiphon
ParticipantRe the outstanding one- it’s not the extension to Leinster House, is it?
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December 1, 2006 at 1:44 pm #766147
Rory W
ParticipantIs it Hibernian corner where it meets the old Norwich Union building?
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December 2, 2006 at 8:20 pm #766148
GrahamH
ParticipantSpot on Rory! 😀
At last, it can be put to bed 🙂
As originator of the photograph, it’s impossible for me to tell if the picture was too abstract – was it? It’s very easy just to assume it looks like a reflection to everyone!I was going to run with this, but it would have been too easy for you lot.
And here is the Hibernian Corner in full view, built in the mid-1970s along with two other notorious office blocks on Dawson and Nassau streets; this is definitely the most palatable, if lacking in finesse.
Very much in the vein of standard UK office architecture of the period, the expansive glazing wrapping around the corner gives it a certain transparent quality. Apparently it has magnificent views over Trinity.
As can be seen, the metal grids are still up, and the cladding tiles are still popping off – when is this long-running saga going to be resolved?
Hopefully soon, as nearly the entire complex of buildings is up for letting now according to The Irish Times six weeks ago.
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/commercialproperty/2006/1018/1160606722578.html
And the thread where the ’tile issue’ cropped up in 2003.
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December 3, 2006 at 11:26 am #766149
SeamusOG
ParticipantOh, thank heavens!
Well done Rory W.
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December 3, 2006 at 5:28 pm #766150
Anonymous
InactiveIs B a reflection of the the 1st phase of the Civic Offices on Wood Quay. Perhaps prompted by the passing of Sam???
And well done Rory for finally geting the building of Dawson St. I’ll sleep easier knowing that now!
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December 3, 2006 at 9:57 pm #766151
urbanisto
ParticipantIts the new addition beside City Hall I think? (B)
And all those chaotic rooftops (A)….is it Henrietta Street by chance
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December 3, 2006 at 9:58 pm #766152
urbanisto
ParticipantIts the new addition beside City Hall I think? (B)
And all those chaotic rooftops (A)….is it Henrietta Street by chance
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December 12, 2006 at 2:00 pm #766153
Anonymous
Inactive@Rory W wrote:
Is it Hibernian corner where it meets the old Norwich Union building?
Well done Rory W. Thanks for putting me out of my misery 😀
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December 14, 2006 at 2:53 am #766154
SeamusOG
ParticipantThe way the shadows are falling on the chimneys in A makes me think that that is an approximately East-West street. I’m going to guess Summerhill Parade.:o
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December 14, 2006 at 8:20 pm #766155
GrahamH
Participantoooh not bad at all Seamus. Certainly on the right track. When originally taking it it looked so obvious, but in hindsight it’s quite a random picture isn’t it. We’re definitely looking up here anyway…
Just looking at the windows here, they’re oddly similar to the new South Anne Street development.
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January 30, 2007 at 10:28 am #766156
SeamusOG
ParticipantWe’re a bit behind time on these two, I think.
I was in Dublin keeping half an eye out. No joy at all.
:confused: 😀
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January 30, 2007 at 1:48 pm #766157
hutton
Participant🙂
10 Pounds down says its Parnell Square East/ Cavandish Row early in the day… I was only looking at that antique “top-up” recently 😉
FTW! 🙂
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January 30, 2007 at 1:56 pm #766158
GregF
Participant………..or is it in Phibsboro?
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January 30, 2007 at 8:28 pm #766159
goneill
Participantwicklow st?
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January 31, 2007 at 3:47 am #766160
GrahamH
ParticipantAfraid not goneill and Greg.
You’re persistent as ever Seamus – I’m surprised you haven’t got the second one! Only clue I’ll give is that it has featured on the thread before…
Spot on Mr hutton – it is indeed Cavendish Row 🙂
Looking up from O’Connell Street in the morning sun. Those two flat chimneys in the middle are very eye-catching in the vista northwards.
Not sure what the chimney in the extreme bottom left is from though – the Gate?So only this left – it may not be glossy in all weathers…
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February 1, 2007 at 1:07 pm #766161
SeamusOG
ParticipantWell done, Hutton.
I’ve a quick question about this one (and relating generally to sunlight in Dublin), probably a gimme for most architects, who deal with these kind of factors all the time.
I originally thought that A was probably an East-West street, because of the way the shadows are falling on the chimneys. Cavendish Row clearly isn’t.
Would it therefore be correct to say that that photo must have been taken in the very early morning?
It’s a fine photo, by the way. And it solves the mystery of the whereabouts of the FA Cup that was stolen years ago.:p
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February 5, 2007 at 8:03 pm #766162
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February 5, 2007 at 9:06 pm #766163
ctesiphon
Participant@Seamus O’G wrote:
I originally thought that A was probably an East-West street, because of the way the shadows are falling on the chimneys. Cavendish Row clearly isn’t.
Would it therefore be correct to say that that photo must have been taken in the very early morning?
In theory, knowing the orientation of a street and examining the line of the shadows cast should be sufficient to determine the time a photo was taken. If you project back from a shadow to the object casting the shadow, this will give the exact position of the sun. (If it can be done from two separate points, the answer will be even more accurate due to triangulation.) The sun is only ever in precisely the same position twice a year, at either side of the longest/shortest days- Dec 20th = Dec 22nd; Dec 19th = Dec 23rd; June 19th = June 23rd; etc.
So if the street above is north-south, and the sun seems low from the shadows, then I’d guess it was taken around midday in the winter, as the sun would be in the due south position at midday (moving from east to west through south as the day progresses), and the low angle would indicate winter time.
Which side of the solstice? Only our photographer knows the answer to that.;)
If it was an east-west street, then you could presume an early morning photo time in summer- or a late evening one! 🙂
(The above is a methodology more than an accurate answer to your question. I’m not sure off the top of my head of the exact orientation of Cavendish Row.)
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February 7, 2007 at 9:13 pm #766164
SeamusOG
Participantctesiphon wrote:In theory, knowing the orientation of a street and examining the line of the shadows cast should be sufficient to determine the time a photo was taken. If you project back from a shadow to the object casting the shadow, this will give the exact position of the sun. (If it can be done from two separate points, the answer will be even more accurate due to triangulation.) The sun is only ever in precisely the same position twice a year, at either side of the longest/shortest days- Dec 20th = Dec 22nd]
Thanks very much, ctesiphon, for your answer. Very informative.If O’Connell Street is a north-south street, which it broadly[ is though it may be at a slight angle, then Cavendish Row would run in a slightly north-west to south-east direction.
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February 9, 2007 at 1:17 am #766165
-Donnacha-
ParticipantB definitely resembles Civic Offices on Woodquay
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February 9, 2007 at 1:51 am #766166
Morlan
ParticipantWow Graham, you’re really making a feast of this one 😀 I initialy thought Wood Quay too but that would have been be too easy. It’s a good one all the same and annoys me evertime I open this thread.
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February 9, 2007 at 2:05 am #766167
hutton
ParticipantIs it not the new Ilac so? :confused:
Was sure it was 🙁 🙁
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February 9, 2007 at 5:16 am #766168
GrahamH
ParticipantI must apologise – simply forgot to reply. No tension heightening intended 🙂
It is indeed Roches hutton – excellent work.
I just spotted it in the spilling rain, and thought it would be suitably obscure.
The warm lighting of Roches looks great whenever it’s heavily overcast. The vertical signs have just been replaced with very sharp Debenhams ones.Yes the Cavendish Row picture was taken about 9am-10am, and probably in the winter. I’m surprised people are a bit evasive about the orientation of Parnell Square – it’s surely one of the most ‘iconic’ elements on a Dublin map, along with the Trinity campus and St. Stephen’s Green? It’s even more skewed than O’Connell Street (due to the lie of the Gardiner lands), making the square more diagonal than vertical and hence close to a N/W-S/E orientation.
Here’s another quick (or not) one.
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February 9, 2007 at 12:15 pm #766169
ctesiphon
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
I’m surprised people are a bit evasive about the orientation of Parnell Square – it’s surely one of the most ‘iconic’ elements on a Dublin map, along with the Trinity campus and St. Stephen’s Green? It’s even more skewed than O’Connell Street (due to the lie of the Gardiner lands), making the square more diagonal than vertical and hence close to a N/W-S/E orientation.
😮
Perhaps some of us didn’t know where Cavendish Row was? (It’s not marked by name on any map I have.)But I’d have to disagree about the ‘iconic’ status of Parnell Square on maps- I think that depends completely on the map you’re using. My daily reference map is the OSI Dublin City and District Street Guide (6th Ed.), on which Parnell Sq is fairly unobtrusive, certainly much less noticeable than Grangegorman, St Stephen’s Green, Merrion Square, Mountjoy Square, Trinity, IFSC and St James’s Hospital, to name just a few on the same two-page sheet.
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March 14, 2007 at 2:02 pm #766170
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March 14, 2007 at 4:22 pm #766171
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March 14, 2007 at 6:04 pm #766172
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June 1, 2007 at 11:17 am #766173
SeamusOG
ParticipantAny other clues available?
Or even white smoke for a location in the Phoenix Park?:)
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June 1, 2007 at 3:41 pm #766174
urbanisto
ParticipantHow about a monument in Glasnevin Cemetery
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June 1, 2007 at 11:55 pm #766175
GrahamH
ParticipantAlas no…
You’re persistent Seamus, I’ll give you that! I forgot all about this 😮
It’s still within the canals, as the rule book states 🙂
Clue of the Day: It’s quite a ‘powerful’ piece…
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June 2, 2007 at 1:23 pm #766176
urbanisto
ParticipantSomething to do with Gas or Electricity then….
Or maybe around Leinster House….
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June 2, 2007 at 4:58 pm #766177
GrahamH
ParticipantHmmm – in which case the ‘powerful’ would have two references: indeed three now that I think of it…
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June 2, 2007 at 6:25 pm #766178
hutton
ParticipantThe Phoenix Park its not – but another ‘flight of fancy’ says its that place where a former owner-occupier Lord Edward Fitzgerald described as “not inspiring bright ideas” – that is to say Leinster House (Kildare St gates); clearly Edward Fitz must have known something about it’s future use… So Kildare St gates of Leinster House ftw! 🙂
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June 2, 2007 at 7:43 pm #766179
Blisterman
ParticipantHere’s one, for the guessing.
I would have done 5, but I don’t have enough photos of Dublin, to do a full 5.
I’m also slightly breaking the rules by posting a building outside of the canals., but at least that’s a hint for you.
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June 3, 2007 at 3:43 pm #766180
Anonymous
Inactive@GrahamH wrote:
Graham, I think your photo is of one of the corners of the Government Buildings on Merrion Street Upper.
http://www.archeire.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/merrion_square/govbuildings_lge.html
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June 3, 2007 at 6:00 pm #766181
urbanisto
ParticipantIs it the Powerscourt Townhouse? Cant think it would be
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June 4, 2007 at 7:39 pm #766182
GrahamH
ParticipantYou can’t think correctly :). It is indeed Government Buildings, Phil – well done.
Sculpted by Albert Power. The centre of government power. And a powerful piece of architecture 😉
I can’t think where yours is, Blisterman. Looks like a little garden pavillion in the south suburbs – allbeit with eh, industrial air conditioning plant…
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July 15, 2007 at 4:55 pm #766183
GrahamH
ParticipantSo no one’s got it yet 🙁
Well here’s another in the meantime – one of the curiosities of the city that both the location and an explanation for would be welcome! I’d like to know more about it.
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July 15, 2007 at 5:19 pm #766184
Anonymous
ParticipantAshtons?
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July 15, 2007 at 8:32 pm #766185
Blisterman
ParticipantExactamundo PVC King.
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July 15, 2007 at 10:08 pm #766186
GrahamH
ParticipantWho, where and/or what is Ashtons?
I sense an ‘ah back in the day’ shpiel coming on here…
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July 15, 2007 at 10:24 pm #766187
alonso
Participantthe pub in Clonskeagh? the classier alternative to O’Sheas for many years of UCD planners? (and possibly architects) Only ashton’s I know
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July 15, 2007 at 10:27 pm #766188
GrahamH
ParticipantAnd indeed the only Ashtons the idirline cares to mention.
In which case, nope.
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July 16, 2007 at 12:20 am #766189
Paul Clerkin
Keymasteri know i know where that is but its refusing to come
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July 18, 2007 at 10:06 pm #766190
ctesiphon
ParticipantYours isn’t near Trinity Street / St Andrew Street is it, Graham? I keep meaning to check. It definitely rings a bell with me too.
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This one should be pretty easy, I’d imagine. There has been a little creative framing, but it is otherwise undoctored:
(I thought I should start my next 1000 posts on a high note. :))
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July 19, 2007 at 12:18 am #766191
GrahamH
ParticipantHmmm – all these development lifestyle blurbs just blur into one. Not Altro Vetro is is? Or the RHK?
Nope the corbel isn’t near Trinity/Andrew Street alas. If you look closely, you can see where iron armatures or pins once embedded the side of it into a shopfront fascia or similar – a chunk appears to have been cut off underneath that area too. Not that I know why either!
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July 19, 2007 at 9:26 am #766192
Anonymous
InactiveBlisterman – Is that the gable of the house near the corner of Leeson St and Dartmouth Road?
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July 19, 2007 at 4:05 pm #766193
Paul Clerkin
Keymastergraham
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July 19, 2007 at 9:27 pm #766194
ctesiphon
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
Hmmm – all these development lifestyle blurbs just blur into one. Not Altro Vetro is is? Or the RHK?
Neither, I’m afraid, but you’re geographically close with one of your guesses. 🙂
I know what you mean about the lifestyle blurbs – sure isn’t ‘The spirit of gracious living’ available just around the corner from me! – but I’ve never seen a billboard as brutally honest as the one above. 😉
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July 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm #766195
Blisterman
Participant@KerryBog2 wrote:
Blisterman – Is that the gable of the house near the corner of Leeson St and Dartmouth Road?
KB2No, PVC king already guessed it. It’s Ashton’s Pub in Clonskeagh.
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July 27, 2007 at 9:07 pm #766196
GrahamH
Participantahhh… *clicks*
Do you have a wider shot Blisterman?@Paul Clerkin wrote:
is it on parnell street
Afraid not, though a very good guess. It’s in a similar ‘down-at-heel’ environment alright, to use that wonderfully diplomatic local authority term for a kip.
I took a good look at the Newmarket buildings the other day, ctesiphon. Interestingly, on three of the eh, ‘crenellations’ there is a set of three stone date-stamps: 1798, 1948 and 1998 (cut out of your shot below).
What would these refer to? The latter at least refers to the date of the brick facades, as you were correct regarding the age of the wall. It’s classic 1990’s red brick with those distinctive (and horrible) little scarry undulations, and the granite dressings are thinner than an Eazy Single – but oddly, move but a few metres away from the building so for the textures to become hard to see, and it bizarrely transforms into a 1940s building.
Even standing in front of it, it looks old! It’s extraordinary how it manages to trick the eye in design and colouring from a distance – as can even be seen above – and then it reveals all up close. Perhaps it’s a 1998 replica of a 1948 design?
Incidentally this building, including the tree and a smart new bus stop on Cork Street are all currently starring in one of the Lotto ads with the little furry fellas.
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July 27, 2007 at 11:17 pm #766197
ctesiphon
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
I took a good look at the Newmarket buildings the other day, ctesiphon. Interestingly, on three of the eh, ‘crenellations’ there is a set of three stone date-stamps: 1798, 1948 and 1998…
What would these refer to?Nothing to do with its origins, by the sounds of things. This from Christine Casey’s Dublin:
Quote:Newmarket is an enormous marketplace laid out in the late 1670s]Could the common theme be Republicanism?
1798: Rebellion.
1948: Republic of Ireland Act (and150th anniversary of 1798).
1998: 200th anniversary; Good Friday Agreement.I don’t know if the area is significant in Republican history, but I do remember from my time living nearby that there was a lot of green around. 😉
This might sound a bit far-fetched, but I can’t think what other significance the dates could have.
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July 28, 2007 at 12:00 pm #766198
alonso
Participantweird. surely 1916 would be the first date one would think of for republican reasons. The GFA is hardly regarded as a major milestone for Irish Republicanism per se, a milestone for the island yes, but not for any particular group. And 1948 isn’t either, especially considering it was a Fine Gael govt which did it. it could explain 1798 but for the other two it’s tenuous at best. I’d find it very odd if this was the case. It’s possible but weird if true. Research!! we must find the answer
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July 28, 2007 at 12:17 pm #766199
ctesiphon
ParticipantAgreed.
Also, I was being a little tongue-in-cheek with the GFA. A quick Google (or http://www.blackle.com as we’re all using now, of course :)) for 1998 + republican + Ireland yielded little else, but Yes, it’s a long shot at best. And to further undermine the theory, I have a suspicion the building was completed earlier than 1998 for some reason (and not just because Casey says ‘mid 1990s’ ;)). When I lived nearby in 2001 it seemed more than three years old, for sure- timeless, you might call it. So the choice of 1998 would then be even odder, and presumably intended to commemorate an anticipated anniversary rather than an event yet to happen.
I’m open to correction/mockery on all of this.
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August 8, 2007 at 8:29 pm #766200
hutton
ParticipantAha finally I get 2 minutes free while theres sunshine – arising out of which, a few new mind-teasers are provided for entertainment -enjoy 😀
1) Whos got de balls to figure this one out – the framing may help 😉
2) Where is this, and for extra points what it is:
3) A bridge too far I hope not – still within the canals see! 😀
4) New meets old here:
5) This one’s a bit of an arresting image…
6) While this one is helpfully obscure enough to ensure that a few of you will be scratching your heads…
7) And finally I thought I’d throw this one in for those who haven’t seen it yet –
Enjoy…
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August 8, 2007 at 9:08 pm #766201
Anonymous
Participantnot much good at this but sure here goes …
2. The Abbey ? Birdhouse ?
5. Kevin St. Garda Station ?6. Harcourt St. possibly ?
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August 9, 2007 at 9:19 am #766202
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August 9, 2007 at 9:35 am #766203
urbanisto
Participant1 is on Dorset Street anyhow. Those are the new lamps. Around Eccles Street maybe
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August 9, 2007 at 12:12 pm #766204
Maxwiggan
Participantnumber 3 is a wee blue house by Ruth Walsh on the side of the national archive on Bride street around the corner from the former site of the dublin bird market on Peter street. yee haahw!!!
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August 9, 2007 at 2:28 pm #766205
Anonymous
Inactive@hutton wrote:
6) While this one is helpfully obscure enough to ensure that a few of you will be scratching your heads…
Number 6 is on the east side of Merrion Street Upper, just beside the junction of Baggot Street, Ely Place and Merrion Row. I remember seeing it and noting how obscure it was. Worryingly, I had a feeling it might appear on this thread some day:)
7) And finally I thought I’d throw this one in for those who haven’t seen it yet –
I am familiar with this building, but don’t want to give it away. It kind of reminds me of the ‘Ij Tower’ on Oostelijke Handelskade in Amsterdam
http://www.neutelings-riedijk.com/index.php?id=13,51,0,0,1,0
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August 9, 2007 at 10:32 pm #766206
GrahamH
Participantlol – but adapted to the Irish context: clad in red brick :p
I really like this development too – pass it regularly. There’s a great contrast between it and tiny little two storey cottages that literally abut its gable wall. I keep meaning to get a pic, as illustrates in very real terms the difference in density achieved with alternate models of housing.
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August 10, 2007 at 7:47 am #766207
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August 10, 2007 at 9:42 am #766208
hutton
Participant@Maxwiggan wrote:
number 3 is a wee blue house by Ruth Walsh on the side of the national archive on Bride street around the corner from the former site of the dublin bird market on Peter street. yee haahw!!!
Spot on Maxwiggan – Bride St indeed on what I think used to be part of Jacobs….However, as to what it is, is still a mystery!
@StephenC wrote:
1 is on Dorset Street anyhow. Those are the new lamps. Around Eccles Street maybe
4 same street
7 is Cork Street?Dorset St is damn hot – but tis not Eccles St ]Number 6 is on the east side of Merrion Street Upper, just beside the junction of Baggot Street, Ely Place and Merrion Row. I remember seeing it and noting how obscure it was. Worryingly, I had a feeling it might appear on this thread some day:) [/QUOTE]
Phil you are spot on. Buy this man a pint! Wonderfully obscure – but clearly not obscure enough :p … Oh well, great anoraks think alike 😀
So thats a fair few spotted so… However numbers 3 and 4 are still up for the taking. While number 4 is a little bit of a jest, number 3 really should be got as it is so unique – Gothick/ Gothic Revival archs either side of a classical arch, forming what is clearly a canal bridge – come on folks..:D
@hutton wrote:
3)
4)
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August 10, 2007 at 12:03 pm #766209
urbanisto
ParticipantIs 4 on OConnell Street then, in front of teh last remaining Georgian
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August 10, 2007 at 12:19 pm #766210
hutton
Participant@StephenC wrote:
Is 4 on OConnell Street then, in front of teh last remaining Georgian
Oh very good – ’tis indeed O’ C St, although opposite side: It and one other on the same side would seem to be a peculiarity in that they must have been left over from the Georgians prior to the 1921-23 conflict, and subsequently re-integrated with the 20’s / 30’s buildings 🙂
Excellent stuff – thats pretty much most of them spotted…However no.3 still awaits identification 😉
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August 11, 2007 at 2:14 am #766211
Maxwiggan
Participantnumber3 is wee blue house by ruth walah on the side of the national archive on bride street
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August 11, 2007 at 12:17 pm #766212
alonso
Participanti think he meant the canal. Would it be cheating to name every single road that crosses the canals?
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August 11, 2007 at 12:41 pm #766213
ctesiphon
ParticipantI’d say you could stick to the northside, alonso. I don’t recognise it from the Grand Canal, but I’m not certain of that either- there’s a couple I’d need to check.
What’s the nearest one to Mountjoy? Prospect Road?
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August 11, 2007 at 12:43 pm #766214
JuliusCaesar
ParticipantWhere is no. 7? Did i miss the answer?
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August 11, 2007 at 5:28 pm #766215
ctesiphon
ParticipantIt’s Cork Street / Dolphin’s Barn afaik, JC. Presumably StephenC’s suggestion was close enough.
Mentioned previously here: https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=3822&page=2
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August 11, 2007 at 9:08 pm #766216
SeamusOG
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
I’d say you could stick to the northside, alonso. I don’t recognise it from the Grand Canal, but I’m not certain of that either- there’s a couple I’d need to check.
What’s the nearest one to Mountjoy? Prospect Road?
This one is a puzzle. I think there’s towpath almost directly adjacent to the Royal Canal at least the whole way in from Broombridge to the North Strand – in some cases sharing the bridge with the canal (i.e. under the road). The Grand Canal has less of a recognised towpath in parts, so I’d be inclined to think that’s where it is. On the other hand, it’s more hump-backed bridge territory, and there is a bit more variety of bridges along the Royal, so it might be along that one.:confused:
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August 11, 2007 at 9:48 pm #766217
GrahamH
ParticipantI’d also be more inclined towards the Royal; it’s always been the more idiosyncratic of the two. It’s also the younger, as this Gothic revival, rather processed looking bridge suggests. Now where on the canal it is…
(And who replaced the keytones with limestone?! 😮 )The coal covers on O’Connell Street were very well observed – noted them myself for the first time only a few weeks ago. It’s remarkable, indeed odd, they survived the alterations of the 1920s given the thorough rearrangements the pavements would surely have endured with all the building work.
Clearly they’re late 19th century at the earliest, so would conform with a commerical premises that was built/altered at that time. Or else they’re actually c.1922, but it’s hard to believe coal was still being used on such a domestic scale by then. Turf-fired central heating or at the very least mass-importing of coal to the rear of the new office buildings would surely have been more pragmatic…
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August 12, 2007 at 9:57 am #766218
Anonymous
Inactive@GrahamH wrote:
Clearly they’re late 19th century at the earliest, so would conform with a commerical premises that was built/altered at that time. Or else they’re actually c.1922, but it’s hard to believe coal was still being used on such a domestic scale by then. Turf-fired central heating or at the very least mass-importing of coal to the rear of the new office buildings would surely have been more pragmatic…
I would say they were a replacement cover from the early 20th Century. Does anyone know when Tonge & Taggart were in Windmill lane? That might tell us for sure.
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August 27, 2007 at 9:58 pm #766219
GrahamH
ParticipantYes it probably would. There’s a huge coal hole cover outside Morrison Chambers on Nassau Street – one of the biggest Edwardian(ish) office developments in the city – that appears contemporaneous to the building, so it looks like old habits died hard.
Here’s another quick one. I will be very impressed with anyone who gets this – you need to be a snooper of the highest order to know where it is. Then again, it’s in such a surprisingly frequented place that you may just have stumbled upon it one day, should curiousity have gotten the better of you – as in this case.
It’s not in a graveyard or obscure city park…
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August 27, 2007 at 10:58 pm #766220
JoePublic
Participantnot the disused toilets in college green?
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August 28, 2007 at 12:09 am #766221
aj
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
Yes it probably would. There’s a huge coal hole cover outside Morrison Chambers on Nassau Street – one of the biggest Edwardian(ish) office developments in the city – that appears contemporaneous to the building, so it looks like old habits died hard.
Here’s another quick one. I will be very impressed with anyone who gets this – you need to be a snooper of the highest order to know where it is. Then again, it’s in such a surprisingly frequented place that you may just have stumbled upon it one day, should curiousity have gotten the better of you – as in this case.
It’s not in a graveyard or obscure city park…
looks like the entrance to St Michans crypt
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August 28, 2007 at 12:11 am #766222
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August 28, 2007 at 1:41 am #766223
Paul Clerkin
Keymasteri think you’re right
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August 28, 2007 at 8:04 pm #766224
GrahamH
ParticipantYay! Well done aj – twas rather obscure.
Presumably it’s left over from whatever once stood on the site of the DIT extension. But it’s a very odd size – not being quite two storeys in height, but well above one. Strange…
Just left as a lonely straggling remnant 🙁
Goodness knows clerical outfitters are equally rare in the city today…
The archway picture is neither of the above suggestions, though is not a million miles away from one of them…
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September 1, 2007 at 11:35 am #766225
newgrange
ParticipantThe number 3 picture is Newcomen Bridge on the North Strand – site of one of the proposed JC Decaux excresences.
Very slyly taken from the lock-keeper’s cottage side, which threw me.
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September 2, 2007 at 10:16 am #766226
hutton
Participant@newgrange wrote:
The number 3 picture is Newcomen Bridge on the North Strand – site of one of the proposed JC Decaux excresences.
Very slyly taken from the lock-keeper’s cottage side, which threw me.
Spot on Newgrange – and yes, it was a somewhat obscure/ sly angle 🙂
That said it’s such an unusual ediface, it’s of merit… the only thing is, I cant find out anything about in any of the usual sources – can anybody throw any further light on it?
Who would have thought that the unassuming Newcomen Bridge could hide such features?
…And to think this is where DCC want to erect more billboards*? Fuck off with such shite 😡
* – there’s already a large electric scrolling billboard here which DCC recently permitted 😮
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September 2, 2007 at 10:22 am #766227
hutton
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
Yay! Well done aj – twas rather obscure.
Presumably it’s left over from whatever once stood on the site of the DIT extension. But it’s a very odd size – not being quite two storeys in height, but well above one. Strange…
Re this piece, I suspect it may have been an element of the structures that were bombed/ burnt during the ’22 -’23 post-Treaty conflict (east side of upper end of O’ Connell St having being seized by de Brugha, before the Free Staters ousted them).
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September 2, 2007 at 10:22 am #766228
hutton
ParticipantDoh! double-post 😮
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September 2, 2007 at 11:12 am #766229
Anonymous
Inactive@GrahamH wrote:
Here’s another quick one. I will be very impressed with anyone who gets this – you need to be a snooper of the highest order to know where it is. Then again, it’s in such a surprisingly frequented place that you may just have stumbled upon it one day, should curiousity have gotten the better of you – as in this case.
It’s not in a graveyard or obscure city park…
I think this is in Trinity College. Behind the Chapel (East Chapel).
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September 2, 2007 at 10:19 pm #766230
igy
ParticipantThat sounds like a promising lead alright
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September 6, 2007 at 9:19 pm #766231
hutton
ParticipantDublin has a wonderful selection of different heads. Some such as those on the O’Donovan Rossa and other bridges spanning the Liffey are well-known, and were previously featured on the old Irish bank notes. Others are also celebrated – with Smyth’s Riverine heads having provided the inspiration for many’s a cheap tourist souvenir.
However there are others also – dotted around the city and frequently appearing in places where there least expected! A common or at least re-occurring trait is that these sculpted heads tend to be used primarily around and over doorways and arches – in many cases highlighting the pre-eminence of a primary access point. Another feature shared by many is that the type of head, surrounding costume and garb, has been used to actively illustrate the function of the building adorned – and in some cases even depicts the sorts working inside.
Perhaps this may yet justify a thread of it’s own, but I thought it would be an awful shame if we first didn’t have some fun with them 🙂 – hence I am uploading the following onto this thread first, and if in time there are more added by others or that it makes sense within it’s own terms, another thread can initiated. (If anybody can add more that would be super!). Anyhow the following are all in the city, between the two canals; see what you can identify – some are better documented than others. In all there are only 8 locations which have given rise to this, but over this and the following 3 posts over 30 heads are featured 😮
And just to add to the fun, all have been mixed up so as to be in a nonsensical order – amn’t I the helpful fellow 😀
In any event, if one looks closely it will soon become apparent that certain groups may belong to the same or similar location. When all have been identified, they can then be put in their logical sequence. Enjoy! 🙂Now to get you started, this one is “Gloriousâ€
1.
But would he have approved of this fellow?
2.
Well in case there be any dispute between the two, this fellow better be close by –
3.
And in reserve, his mate just in case… Ah I do approve of order!
4.
But spectators often gather at such ruckuses – and some are clearly more cheery…
5.
…than others!6.
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September 6, 2007 at 9:19 pm #766232
hutton
ParticipantAmongst the crowd, some may grimace and make faces – this fellow’s breath probably smells a bit, something he’s possibly not too happy about
7.
Perhaps this fellow has to smell that chaps breath – and neither are happy at being called “fish-face”!
8.
Meanwhile a further man of uniform might arrive, seeing as there’s now a crowd gathering –
9.
Would you buy a car off this fellow – I wouldn’t even dare ask him the time!
10.
He might, if annoyed, know some dodgy types – and hutton prefers not to be abducted into the white slave trade…
11.
In any case there are witnesses –
12.
But does anyone recognize this fellow? It would seem that some may be happier to be here…
13.
…than others, who may be tiring in the mid-day sun
14.
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September 6, 2007 at 9:20 pm #766233
hutton
ParticipantFemales, it would appear, are just as happy to be here
15.
16.
17.
as are their male counterparts –
18.
19.
Yet I will be particularly impressed if anyone knows this lassie –
20.
And clearly the genteel must gaze
21.
as well as the august
22.
One or two may comment on the affair –
23.
24.
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September 6, 2007 at 9:20 pm #766234
hutton
ParticipantYet others are clearly saying nothin’ –
25.
Perhaps its because there are even more uniformed sorts about –
26.
as well as other pillars of society (or at least in this case, of a doorway!)
27.
and there’s always the possibility of a spy or an informer –
28.
as well as the more casual observers –
29.
30.
While the elder members might also take a glance –
31.
Yet all will have to face their makers – and so for the finale, a dramatic sequence of images carved by a hand that has since followed his own mortal depiction, RIP;
32a.
and adjacent to the skull, the sculptor also left another detail – the hour-glass over cross-bones, thus advising on the inevitable pursuant to the passage of time
32b.
and finally the two together shown in context:
32c.
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September 6, 2007 at 9:42 pm #766235
Morlan
ParticipantGreat collection there hutton. Definately deserves a thread of its own.
It’s easy to tell which ones are from ****** *****, but I won’t spoil it for the others 😉
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September 6, 2007 at 9:47 pm #766236
hutton
ParticipantMany thanks Morlan 🙂
You could well be right – probably move them after they’ve been guessed.. btw I’d love to add some others if there are any more about 🙂
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September 6, 2007 at 10:16 pm #766237
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September 7, 2007 at 1:33 pm #766238
Rory W
ParticipantWell the uniform sorts are the “Keystone Kops” from Pease Street Garda Station and the Skull & Crossbones and hourglass are from St Werberg’s (always thought they were a bit morbid for a church especially when you are looking out at them from the queue from Burdocks!!) as for the non ******* ***** ones – a good question.
No 13 raises a smile though
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September 8, 2007 at 2:18 am #766239
GrahamH
ParticipantIt does indeed. Great pics hutton – all the aul favourites cropping up, incl Morlan 🙂
Although I cannot actually think where No. 13 is. Think I only recognise it from photographs.Well done Phil on Trinity: I suspected only you’d get that – as usual 😉
A virtually unknown tiny little commemorative – and indeed ash burial – plot to the rear of the chapel.
And with the most spectacular crown glass looking down on it!
Fantastic stuff.
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September 8, 2007 at 4:03 am #766240
Morlan
ParticipantExcellent find, Graham. I never would have guessed.
You didn’t happen to venture into the crypt?
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September 8, 2007 at 11:34 am #766241
Anonymous
InactiveGrahamH wrote:Well done Phil on Trinity: I suspected only you’d get that – as usual ]ha ha, thanks Graham. Lovely little mysterious part of College that.
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September 15, 2007 at 7:23 pm #766242
hutton
ParticipantWell no 13 seems to have everybody still guessing, charming rascal that he is 🙂
13.
Well done Rory on the uniformed sorts they are indeed Pearse St Garda Station’s “Keystone Copsâ€. Detailed on pages 453-4 in Christine Casey’s Pevsner Guide to Dublin; completed in 1915, the building was by A. Robinson, M.J. Burke & H.G. Leask of the OPW, and in style that is “minimal hard-edged Scots Baronial. Regarding the entrance Casey notes that “a triple-arched portal led to the constables’ entrance while a single arched porch at the w end was officially the officers’ entrance, a distinction amusingly signaled in carved label stops of inspectors and menâ€. They really are a charming detail so here they are again, beginning at the west end. It’s worth noting that while all may be in uniform, no two are the same
Rory was also right as to no 32 (a, b +c) being Thomas Burgh’s St Werburghs, which was built between 1715 – 19, making it one of the city’s earliest essays in the classical manner. Again this building is well documented by Casey on pages 342 – 4; partly rebuilt by Joseph Jarratt in 1759, “the committee appears to have desired a straight forward recreation of the original†which “it seems, is what they got…The plasterwork here was designed by Jarratt and executed by Michael McGuire and Thomas Tierney. Panels with human masks and foliate pendants fill the spaces between the columns.†Students of history will know that not only are the remains of Lord Edward Fitzgerald interned here, but also those too of his chief detractor, Major Sirr. The building is missing it’s steeple, which was removed probably to prevent it being used by a sniper – as it had overlooked the upper yard in Dublin Castle.
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September 15, 2007 at 7:25 pm #766243
hutton
ParticipantI think its fair to say that the cat is well out of the bag on the ones from the “******* *****†as Morlan and Rory both so discreetly put it. They are of course John Smyth’s famous Riverine heads, erected as part of the Custom House 1781 – 91. I was pleasantly surprised during the week when I asked at their front desk whether they had any information sheets on the building; happily I was presented with a 48 page glossy booklet by Eddie McParland, free-of-charge. Although the publication dates from 1991 when they had just completed restoration, it’s all obviously still as up to date and is highly recommended as it is easily readable while being very informative.
Lovely little gems are contained within such as how Henry Grattan was so offended by the “bombastic vanity†of the Customs House, which he said had resulted then (1790) in “a building of sixth rate rank in architecture…which stands as a blemish in the eye of the islandâ€.
Grattan wasn’t of course the only one; 9 years previously in September 1781 Napper Tandy and the High Sheriff “followed by a numerous rabble, with adzes, saws, shovels, & c., & c., came in a body on the ground, and leveled that portion of the fence…adjoining the North Wallâ€. Tandy’s and the merchants complaints were not of course on an aesthetic ground, but that by building the Custom House where it is would relocate the commercial heart of the city away from it’s then location roughly where the Clarence Hotel is today; a dodgy rezoning of it’s day as it were! So hats off there anyway to the Gardiners on the northside with the Pembroke estate on the south in outdoing Fianna Fail before there was Fianna Fail, and isn’t it appropriate that the building is today HQ of the Department of Environment! It is of course one of Dublin’s most iconic buildings, and as with The Sunlight Chambers 100 years later, what started out being one of the most hated buildings in the city is now one of it’s most loved.So here are the 14 Riverine Heads, each depicting an Irish river and also the Atlantic, all by John Smyth, who Gandon likened to Michelangelo. Beginning with the central arch on the south elevation (no 21), and notably the only female – Anna Livia, aka the Liffey (no. 21):
The Erne (no. 30):
No 1 is of course The Foyle – the giveaway being the date 1689 noting the Siege of Derry during “The Glorious Revolutionâ€, which ultimately resulted in the 18th century administration that Ireland had:
Moving clockwise to the west front, there is the Slaney (no. 31) followed by The Nore (no. 14):
Continuing clockwise to the north elevation, there is the Suir (no. 25):
Appropriately looking north, the Lagan (no. 24):
The Lee is over the central doorway (no.12):
Oddly enough, the Shannon (no. 28) is to the left of the centre:
The Bann (no. 23) is the final one on the north front, at the NE corner:
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September 15, 2007 at 7:26 pm #766244
hutton
ParticipantOn the east side are the Atlantic (no. 8), and the Blackwater (no. 29):
Completing the circle back to the south front are, on SE corner the Barrow (no. 7), and also the Boyne (no. 22) – again, as with The Foyle, an important date is carved into the forehead, in this instance 1690:
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September 15, 2007 at 7:27 pm #766245
hutton
ParticipantSo folks that leaves us with no. 13…
13.
the five added by Morlan – which if I am right I might be able to match three with three more from the same location, although d and e have me guessing…
@Morlan wrote:
Righto, here’s few for the moment. They should be easy to get.
a/b/c
d
e
…and also these two await identification…
2.
27.
…as do these two lassies – each on either side of the river, one is well known yet her northside sister fronted a similar activity, I suspect –
17.
20.
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September 15, 2007 at 7:29 pm #766246
hutton
Participantand finally this crowd also still await identification, all convene at the one location… –
5.6.
10.
11.
15.
16.
18.
19.
Enjoy! 🙂
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September 15, 2007 at 9:03 pm #766247
djasmith
ParticipantJust in response to the picture of the steps in trinity posted above. I went exploring in trinity the other day (showed up to early for a show in the olympia) and I found them. You can walk down but there’s a wooden door of some sort at the bottom. anyone know whats down there or where it leads to??
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September 16, 2007 at 12:21 am #766248
GrahamH
ParticipantPresumably the crypt of the Chapel?
I do believe Morlan’s a/b/c heads are those of the distinguished Permanent TSB building on the corner of O’Connell Street and Lower Abbey Street – a rare example in the city of granite being used for such detailed carving. The beautifully serene ‘e’ is surely one of the Portland heads of Clerys, but I’m not sure as to the location of ‘d’…
We also appear to have the Iveagh Markets and the Chapel Royal of the Castle in the mix there hutton. I think…
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September 16, 2007 at 2:57 am #766249
hutton
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
I do believe Morlan’s a/b/c heads are those of the distinguished Permanent TSB building on the corner of O’Connell Street and Lower Abbey Street – a rare example in the city of granite being used for such detailed carving..We also appear to have the Iveagh Markets
Spot on Graham, Iveagh Markets on Francis St – representing the continents acording to O Casey, but what’s this? –
@GrahamH wrote:
and the Chapel Royal of the Castle in the mix there hutton. I think…
Methinks not – youve finally revealed yoursef as the chancer you are!! :p
Only joking – Please add the Castle head if there’s one there to be added 🙂
And what about no.13?? So there’s 13, 2, 27, 17, and 20…
I’ll buy the winner a choc-ice 😉
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April 25, 2008 at 10:36 pm #766250
Hannah
ParticipantHi everyone,
This is a puzzle for all, I took this Photo 3 wks ago. Just wondering will anyone guess where it is.
I thought it was interesting.
Hannah:
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April 26, 2008 at 12:33 am #766251
Anonymous
ParticipantHarold’s Cross Bridge, sorry a little too easy.
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May 9, 2008 at 12:13 pm #766252
kmeg
ParticipantAnymore mystery photo locations for posting?
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May 9, 2008 at 12:52 pm #766253
gunter
ParticipantWhere’s this?
Nice stonework, disgraceful cement pointing, you’ve all the clues you need!
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May 9, 2008 at 1:13 pm #766254
GrahamH
ParticipantFirst Boards Dublin City blatently steal the idea running it into a gazillion-page extravaganza, then the regional forums take it up, and now this!
Thank goode$$ for the franchi$e clau$e 😀
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May 9, 2008 at 4:44 pm #766255
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May 9, 2008 at 5:10 pm #766256
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterCollins Barracks?
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May 9, 2008 at 5:21 pm #766257
ctesiphon
ParticipantGraham- from a quick look, I think we’ve little to worry about. On a random viewing I got about 90% right.
Pfft- pretenders.
(Also, jdivision- sleeping around, I see!)
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May 9, 2008 at 8:00 pm #766258
gunter
ParticipantNot Grangegorman, not Collins Barracks.
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May 10, 2008 at 12:50 am #766259
Anonymous
Participant -
May 10, 2008 at 8:58 am #766260
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May 10, 2008 at 9:05 am #766261
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May 10, 2008 at 11:13 am #766262
jdivision
ParticipantDublin castle?
@ctesiphon wrote:
(Also, jdivision- sleeping around, I see!)
New job means I’ll be so busy that I won’t be seen on either very much 🙁
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May 10, 2008 at 12:14 pm #766263
gunter
Participant@jdivision wrote:
Dublin castle?
Well done!
I thought the colour and obvious OPW involvement might have been the clues.
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May 10, 2008 at 1:08 pm #766264
jdivision
ParticipantI only saw them for the first time a couple of weeks ago. A bit legoland like I think
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May 11, 2008 at 6:29 pm #766265
GrahamH
ParticipantStill contentious I see.
Back in 1995 the OPW were faced with a dilemma. They’d just completed the last bells and whistles restoration job at the Castle, encompassing for the first time the restoration of the vast majority of buildings to the rear of the site surrounding the former ‘Pound’. It also of course included the conversion of the Pound itself into the Dubh Linn Garden.
Yet when heads of state and their entourages were due to alight from their helicopters, they would be greated by the glowering rendered rump of the Bermingham Tower, St. Patrick’s Hall and Entrance Block of the State Apartments, none of which had ever received any architectural treatment over their 250 year history, in contrast to the Bedroom Block to the east.
Hence in the spirit of the hedonistic, faintly patronising, and we’ve-reached-the-end-point approach to art and architecture of the 1990s, it was decided – tongue firmly in cheek – to acknowledge the lack of architectural treatment of this part of the State Apartments by painting its constituent parts various colours (which were well chosen and strategically positioned).
In spite of it not quite washing with puzzled tourists (heck Dublin Castle full stop is a puzzle to tourists), I think it works to dramatic effect. Impact without major intervention, and giving a whole new dimension to the rear of the State Apartments. A rare instance of the painting over of historic render being acceptable.
To actually raise a real contentious question would be to suggest an architectural treatment for this part of the Castle today.
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May 11, 2008 at 7:20 pm #766266
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterLove the lego colours – one of my favourite corners of Dublin.
mad I didn’t get that but I was thinking the passageway from he main square in Collins Barracke to the calvary school building.
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May 11, 2008 at 7:42 pm #766267
johnglas
ParticipantGraham H: good puzzle, even I should have got that (isn’t hindsight wonderful?). Yes, I hate the kindergarten kolours, but what would you do? I think the green and grey/blue work reasonably well, but the red and yellow are vomitose; if these buildings were faced (in what and how?), the green and blue could remain as a contrast and look quite decent. Would a render with window opes defined in stone do? Or some kind of minimalist granite or limestone cladding?
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May 11, 2008 at 8:07 pm #766268
missarchi
Participantwell??? 17 14 20
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May 11, 2008 at 8:44 pm #766269
missarchi
Participantyou say taxi?
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May 11, 2008 at 10:03 pm #766270
johnglas
ParticipantThe first two images have to be in the atrium of the OPW in St Stephen’s Green.
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May 20, 2008 at 8:36 pm #766271
notjim
ParticipantWho would do this to a nice tree?
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May 20, 2008 at 10:10 pm #766272
alonso
Participanttrinity?
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May 20, 2008 at 10:15 pm #766273
notjim
ParticipantYes, it is the tree in the middle of the prefabs by College Park; why are they still there?
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May 21, 2008 at 8:43 am #766274
alonso
Participanthurray!! My first correct answer on this thread!
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May 21, 2008 at 11:57 am #766275
cajual
Participant -
May 21, 2008 at 3:34 pm #766276
gunter
ParticipantWhere is this Dublin Door?
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May 21, 2008 at 3:55 pm #766277
ctesiphon
ParticipantIveagh Buildings?
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May 21, 2008 at 4:25 pm #766278
gunter
ParticipantI take it that was a stab in the dark, based on the date. On yer bike ctesiphon.
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May 21, 2008 at 4:55 pm #766279
ctesiphon
ParticipantMy first guess was the old fruit market in D8, but the style of the date suggested the Iveagh. Then I checked the Iveagh date and it’s 1901.
It’s not the northside fruit market, but could it be the old Richmond Hospital, now a courthouse? Though I think that’s yellower in appearance… There aren’t many buildings in Dublin within the canals (it is within the canals, I presume, as per the rules of the game?) that have lettering of that style.
Anyhoo, bike time. You’re right.
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May 21, 2008 at 5:00 pm #766280
notjim
ParticipantIs it a fire station?
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May 21, 2008 at 5:25 pm #766281
gunter
ParticipantWithin canals. Not a fire station.
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May 21, 2008 at 5:44 pm #766282
Rusty Cogs
ParticipantDown the South Quays, Sir John Rogersons way ? Irish & British Steam Package Co or summit ?
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May 21, 2008 at 10:05 pm #766283
gunter
Participant@Rusty Cogs wrote:
Down the South Quays, Sir John Rogersons way ? Irish & British Steam Package Co or summit ?
The ‘British and Irish Steam Packet Company’ building on Sir John Rogerson’s Quay indeed!
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May 21, 2008 at 10:09 pm #766284
Rusty Cogs
ParticipantHurrah, I gots one. 🙂
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May 21, 2008 at 10:32 pm #766285
gunter
ParticipantYou were probably able to see it out your penthouse window!
What’s the view on this kind of solid Edwardian fare? Centenary coming up next year, will it beat the wrecking ball? Should they slap five more storeys on top and get another hundred years out of it? Is it a Protected Structure, or should it be?
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May 22, 2008 at 8:35 am #766286
GrahamH
ParticipantOf course it is, and of course it should be (though given the status of those houses on Pearse Street one would be forgiven for thinking otherwise).
Interesting and rare to see the typical sparse Dublin Georgian railing coming briefly back into use as part of the classical revival a century after it fell out of fashion.
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May 22, 2008 at 10:14 am #766287
johnglas
ParticipantGunter: Do you need to ask the question? – for sheer nostalgia up there with The Sick and Indigent Roomkeepers’ Society (mind you, look at the neighbour that got!).
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May 23, 2008 at 6:27 pm #766288
notjim
ParticipantSo where is this Rus meets Urbe, complete with cow sheds and a planning notice.
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May 26, 2008 at 8:32 am #766289
ctesiphon
ParticipantIs it within the canals? I’m pretty sure it’s not south of the river (loike).
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May 26, 2008 at 9:00 am #766290
notjim
ParticipantNo, I admit it is a bit obscure and was posted more as a curio, I mean there are actual cow sheds, the planning notice say “demolish cow sheds for blah blah blah apartments etc”. It is behind a terrace of houses, the old farm house, which I would guess as c.1800, has a run of late Victorian red bricks attached to it. The church with the pyramidal roof might be recognizable?
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May 26, 2008 at 10:58 am #766291
alonso
Participantthe only place i can think of is to the south/just inisde the Royal Canal near Brrombridge station in the Cabra area. otherwise no idea
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May 26, 2008 at 11:01 am #766292
notjim
ParticipantNo – it is outside the canals; it does have a single digit (odd) postcode though.
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May 26, 2008 at 4:06 pm #766293
ctesiphon
ParticipantWhere was the old Albert Agricultural College in Glasnevin? Is it now All Hallows?
Am I close?
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May 26, 2008 at 5:20 pm #766294
notjim
ParticipantClose: DCU and Ballymun are on the site of Albert College; it is Glasnevin though, it is on Ballymun road just north of Met Eireann, the church tower is the little protestant church beside the Bons, its pyramidal roof clearly the inspiration for both Met Eireann and Glasnevin Catholic church.
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May 28, 2008 at 11:15 pm #766295
gunter
ParticipantA Dublin warehouse!
It’s pretty big, should be pretty easy.
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May 29, 2008 at 4:49 pm #766296
ctesiphon
ParticipantTwo candidates:
New Row South, southern end, or somewhere in the Bow Street/Smithfield area.
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May 29, 2008 at 11:06 pm #766297
gunter
ParticipantNot New Row South, not Bow Street / Smithfield area!
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May 30, 2008 at 8:40 am #766298
ctesiphon
ParticipantHarrumph.
Is it in the docklands? 😀
I went for a spin last night to check a few possible locations for your warehouse, but didn’t find it. I did come across these, however:
Thoughts?
A clue- this was my route:
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May 30, 2008 at 9:17 am #766299
gunter
ParticipantHold on a minute here. I refer you to the rules:
(section 37, paragraph 19):
‘A poster may not post a new pictorial challange until he, or another party, has correctly answered the existing challenge’, or,
Under sub-section 14, ‘admitted that he hasn’t a clue’
The warehouse (in the original question) is not in the docklands, but your strange directionless wanderings appear to have take you within spitting distance, at one point.
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May 30, 2008 at 9:18 am #766300
notjim
ParticipantI was convinced the warehouse was the wool shed on spencer dock, but I went round and it wasn’t: did find a planning notice on it, a gym, as good a use as any. I wonder if they will remember it used to have a cupola before it was stabilized with a galvanized roof.
I am sure the 1897 building is close to were I am sitting (Westland Road) but can’t quite picture where I have seen it, is it the school behind Pearse Station?
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May 30, 2008 at 9:43 am #766301
gunter
Participant@notjim wrote:
I was convinced the warehouse was the wool shed on spencer dock, but I went round and it wasn’t: did find a planning notice on it, a gym, as good a use as any. I wonder if they will remember it used to have a cupola before it was stabilized with a galvanized roof.
The Wool shed is a peach, but you’re right, it would have been the wrong answer.
You’re not allowed play with ctesiphon, he’s broken the rules.
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May 30, 2008 at 9:46 am #766302
notjim
ParticipantIs it on Richmond Road?
PS Yesterday ctesiphon told us about taking a date to the AAI awards exhibition: rules mean nothing to someone like that.
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May 30, 2008 at 10:24 am #766303
gunter
ParticipantNot on Richmond Road.
Re: the other matter. I’d say see was thrilled!
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May 30, 2008 at 11:31 am #766304
ctesiphon
Participant@gunter wrote:
Under sub-section 14, ‘admitted that he hasn’t a clue’
The warehouse (in the original question) is not in the docklands, but your strange directionless wanderings appear to have take you within spitting distance, at one point.
Wanderings, yes, But strange? Directionless? Well I never! As WG Sebald said, when you watch a dog exploring a field his path seems completely random, but he invariably finds what he was looking for. (Which I didn’t, agreed, but the point stands, I hope.)
Fair enough, sub-section 14 it is. I still think it’s in the general west/north-west inner city, although I suppose the wider Newmarket area can’t be discounted (both of which were on my route- nice one on reading the map too, by the way, others have been baffled by it).
If gunter’s is A, mine are B and C.
B is not on Westland / Pearse.
B & C are less than 5 minutes apart on foot.Gotta dash- I’m late, I’m late, for a very important date!
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May 30, 2008 at 7:39 pm #766305
gunter
ParticipantThe only sections of ctesiphon’s cycle route that could possibly yield photographs B and C are Donore Ave. (something to the rear of the Meath Hospital), or possibly the South Citcular Road, but the path is too narrow and the stonework is too clean for the boundary wall (C) to be at Griffith Barracks (the bit up at that awful school).
For anyone still interested in finding the three storey warehouse (A), it is located no more that 30m away from ctesiphon’s cycle route, near another educational establishment of dubious merit.
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May 30, 2008 at 9:26 pm #766306
Alek Smart
ParticipantNotjim`s Ballymun Road pics are particularly poingniant for me.
I grew up in Glasnevin Village,which commenced at the old Wooden Church and ended at the Junction with Ballymun Rd/Old Finglas Rd where the Holy Faith Convent gates still stand today.
The house and lands standing so bleakly today was home to a family called Nolan one of whom I used to still see around the place up to perhaps 5 years ago.
He was a committed Heinkel Scooter rider in the days when such a machine stood head and shoulders above (literally) the modern ideal of a “Scooter”The Nolans were indeed agricultural as were many Glasnevin inhabitants right up until the mid 1980`s.
I can remember cattle being driven up that lane to those ubiqitous “cow sheds” as well.
This entire area is still dotted with the remnants of a bygone Dublin which in reality is only a blink away.Mention of the Albert College for example reminds me that I knew it as a functioning agricultural college and Glasnevin village itself regularly saw large flocks of sheep driven to it from Finglas Bridge via Old Finglas Road to graze on the Bon Secour Hospital grounds the entire process overseen by the Shepherd and his dogs !!!
I am particularly interested in any information about the former occupant of the Met Office Pyramid site.
This was,in my childhood,Marlborough House a remand home for juveniles progressing through the Courts system.
I only recently discovered that prior to the foundation of the State it was known as Marlborough Barracks and housed a detachment of the British Army.
There is a photo on the 1911 census website which is where I first became aware of its former history.As an aside,its worth pointing out that both of the Pyramidical structures at each end of Glasnevin Village suffered from serious defects almost from construction,both Our Lady of Dolours church and the Met Office had large scale remedial work carried out to their structures very early in their existance.
All the more remarkable as they both replaced elderly structures which were “Supposed” to be time expired !
Great thread all round so 🙂
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May 30, 2008 at 9:54 pm #766307
Alek Smart
ParticipantNotjim`s Ballymun Road pics are particularly poingniant for me.
I grew up in Glasnevin Village,which commenced at the old Wooden Church and ended at the Junction with Ballymun Rd/Old Finglas Rd where the Holy Faith Convent gates still stand today.
The house and lands standing so bleakly today was home to a family called Nolan one of whom I used to still see around the place up to perhaps 5 years ago.
He was a committed Heinkel Scooter rider in the days when such a machine stood head and shoulders above (literally) the modern ideal of a “Scooter”The Nolans were indeed agricultural as were many Glasnevin inhabitants right up until the mid 1980`s.
I can remember cattle being driven up that lane to those ubiqitous “cow sheds” as well.
This entire area is still dotted with the remnants of a bygone Dublin which in reality is only a blink away.Mention of the Albert College for example reminds me that I knew it as a functioning agricultural college and Glasnevin village itself regularly saw large flocks of sheep driven to it from Finglas Bridge via Old Finglas Road to graze on the Bon Secour Hospital grounds the entire process overseen by the Shepherd and his dogs !!!
I am particularly interested in any information about the former occupant of the Met Office Pyramid site.
This was,in my childhood,Marlborough House a remand home for juveniles progressing through the Courts system.
I only recently discovered that prior to the foundation of the State it was known as Marlborough Barracks and housed a detachment of the British Army.
There is a photo on the 1911 census website which is where I first became aware of its former history.As an aside,its worth pointing out that both of the Pyramidical structures at each end of Glasnevin Village suffered from serious defects almost from construction,both Our Lady of Dolours church and the Met Office had large scale remedial work carried out to their structures very early in their existance.
All the more remarkable as they both replaced elderly structures which were “Supposed” to be time expired !
Great thread all round so 🙂
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June 4, 2008 at 10:48 am #766308
ctesiphon
Participant@gunter wrote:
The only sections of ctesiphon’s cycle route that could possibly yield photographs B and C are Donore Ave. (something to the rear of the Meath Hospital), or possibly the South Citcular Road, but the path is too narrow and the stonework is too clean for the boundary wall (C) to be at Griffith Barracks (the bit up at that awful school).
For anyone still interested in finding the three storey warehouse (A), it is located no more that 30m away from ctesiphon’s cycle route, near another educational establishment of dubious merit.
I had another look for the warehouse over the weekend, specifically around the Smithfield area, but I had no joy. Was I in the right general area?
I know I was in the right area for my two- not Donore Ave at all. I’ll give you one more shot, then I can put you out of your misery. (Or should that be ‘one more more more shot’, followed by a full Irish breakfast? :D)
One final clue- the wall was where I thought your warehouse was. I still think they might be near neighbours.
Anyone else care to give any of the three a shot? (I’ll admit the datestone one is very obscure, even though the photo was taken from a public road.)
EDIT: Re the ‘educational establishment’- Blackhall Place?
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June 4, 2008 at 11:43 am #766309
gunter
ParticipantI found a wall that matches your wall, but with a window and a traffic light in the way. I guess that means it’s not your wall!
I did have a wander around Smithfield, but I didn’t find it.
Hold on a minute here, the penny’s dropping, it’s the back of the Smithfield scheme facing Bow Street (the A + D Wejchert scheme), that’s where the wall is, right?
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June 4, 2008 at 12:05 pm #766310
ctesiphon
ParticipantI think you’re right- I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt!
It’s the Bow Street frontage of the Carmelite Friary. (‘more more more’ = Carmel; ‘full Irish breakfast’ = friary. :o)
Interestingly, your wall has one of those ghost lintels too (to the right of the window), indicating a previous opening. In fact, I have a collection of blocked opes- time to break them out for a new chapter of this thread? 🙂
(Edit: One of my blocked doors featured in this thread before, in fact: https://archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=56164&postcount=271 No.3 in that list.)
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June 4, 2008 at 12:25 pm #766311
gunter
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Interestingly, your wall has one of those ghost lintels too (to the right of the window), indicating a previous opening.
You say that as if the ghost lintel was some kind of random feature. It took a long time to find a ghost lintel.
On your wall, I was actually thinking of the other side of Bow Street.
The educational establishment near my warehouse is not Blackhall Place, but you’re on the right side of the city.
Last clue: The warehouse is near a place of (current) architectural interest.
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June 4, 2008 at 4:02 pm #766312
ctesiphon
ParticipantBolton Street? Belvedere College? They’re the only northside educational spots I passed (or near to) on my route, I think.
Is it Henrietta Place? Corner of Yarnhall Street (?) or thereabouts? If not, I give up.
PS Do you want to know re the datestone?
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June 4, 2008 at 9:53 pm #766313
gunter
ParticipantHenrietta Place, corner with Yarnhall Street, that would be correct!
That’s the front of Bolton Street Tech. on the right (first clue) and straight on down to the left is the corner house on Henrietta Street, which is the site of a current open architectural competition (second clue).
Go on then, where’s your date stone?
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June 5, 2008 at 8:20 am #766314
ctesiphon
ParticipantWoo-hoo!
It was a bit of a guess- I knew there was something on that corner, but couldn’t remember exactly what it was. And, looking at your picture above, I think the brick/rubble stone elevational treatments might have confused me a little. I presume it’s a later refacing?
The clues that gave it to me were a) 30 metres from my route, and b) northside educational. I wasn’t aware of the current competition; I thought you might have been referring to the brick yoke on the corner of Henrietta Street and Bolton Street with that comment.
The datestone is on Stable Lane, behind the church on Arran Quay. Apologies for the obscurity- I’ll admit I was feeling a little vengeful over the Iveagh/Steam Packet picture. 😉 I’ll try to post a wider angle anon.
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June 5, 2008 at 1:44 pm #766315
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterdammit – i should have known both of those
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June 5, 2008 at 3:15 pm #766316
gunter
ParticipantThese things are maddening aren’t they, so we’ll press on.
However, I suspect that obscure bits of wall down back lanes may be a minority interest, so what about some higher profile stuff.
The question remains, where are these? [Rules observed, within the canal ring, public access, all of that!]
A
B
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June 5, 2008 at 3:38 pm #766317
notjim
ParticipantIs that what the back of the fountain looks like?
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June 5, 2008 at 3:47 pm #766318
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterThe second one is Collins Barracks
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June 5, 2008 at 3:49 pm #766319
notjim
ParticipantOh now I am embarrassed, I guess I should have recognized the gravel.
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June 5, 2008 at 4:24 pm #766320
gunter
ParticipantThis is what happens when you make them too easy! Collins Barracks is right for ‘B’ The inscription is ‘Charles Duke of Rutland Lord Lieutenant 1785’ I never knew of it’s existance, until I went looking for ctesiphon’s fecking wall.
What about the finial?
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June 5, 2008 at 7:33 pm #766321
johnglas
ParticipantOn the old Presb church in Sean MacDermott St? By the way, the warehouse is a real gem; the brick does look like a refacing, but the stonework is very robust; who says there are no opportunities for loft apartments in Dblin? (Although it would be better continuing in its original purpose, cleaned up a bit.)
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June 5, 2008 at 8:21 pm #766322
gunter
ParticipantNot the finial on the old Presbyterian church on Sean MacDermott St. [Frank Taylor’s pic]
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June 5, 2008 at 11:22 pm #766323
ctesiphon
ParticipantThe wider shot:
(Stumped by the finial- I’ll presumably have a stiff neck by Sunday.)
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June 12, 2008 at 6:10 pm #766324
gunter
ParticipantThat’s great that everything worked out in Harold’s Cross.
Now back to the Finial!
A clue: It’s centrally located and it’s on the northside, but not by much.
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June 12, 2008 at 6:13 pm #766325
Paul Clerkin
Keymasteron one of the bridges?
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June 12, 2008 at 6:43 pm #766326
gunter
ParticipantYou’re thinking Kingsbridge (Heuston)?
No, sorry. Not on a bridge.
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June 13, 2008 at 9:05 am #766327
alonso
ParticipantPhoenix Park?
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June 13, 2008 at 9:16 am #766328
gunter
ParticipantYou think this is in the Phoenix Park, but you have no idea what building!
Is that what you’re saying?
I wouldn’t like you to go to too much trouble . . . so I’ll tell you it’s not in the Phoenix Park.
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June 13, 2008 at 11:09 am #766329
djasmith
Participantsome probably more obvious than others……
W.
X.
Y.
Z.
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June 13, 2008 at 11:26 am #766330
ctesiphon
ParticipantThe last one is Lower Abbey Street, just behind the Luas stop. Some class of missionary/church building? Can’t remember the exact name/purpose.
And I think PIG is on the south campshires in the Docklands, just by the DDDA offices.
Pretty sure I know the 1889 gable too, but I’ll leave it open for now.
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June 13, 2008 at 11:29 am #766331
notjim
ParticipantFirefighters is the Naughton Inst. TCD; the PIG is definitely south campshire in that funny 50s deco looking building they build about three years ago. A PIG is a kind of capsule you put in a gas pipe. I am sure I know the other two too, they will come to me; the date is somewhere in college too isn’t it? Dining hall steps? I will check.
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June 13, 2008 at 11:53 am #766332
jdivision
ParticipantY is Carvills on Camden Street I think
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June 13, 2008 at 1:11 pm #766333
notjim
ParticipantTake that back about Z and the dining hall but I am sure it is somewhere I often see.
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June 13, 2008 at 1:13 pm #766334
ctesiphon
Participant@notjim wrote:
Take that back about Z and the dining hall but I am sure it is somewhere I often see.
@ctesiphon wrote:
The last one is Lower Abbey Street, just behind the Luas stop.
Pretty sure of this one.
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June 13, 2008 at 1:17 pm #766335
notjim
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Pretty sure of this one.
Damn, I missed that when I read your post earlier, mostly because of my PIG-obsession, I am with you completely, I often walk by there.
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June 13, 2008 at 5:47 pm #766336
alonso
Participant@gunter wrote:
You think this is in the Phoenix Park, but you have no idea what building!
Is that what you’re saying?
I wouldn’t like you to go to too much trouble . . . so I’ll tell you it’s not in the Phoenix Park.
:cool:Yeh I’m not good at this thread really:( is it near a bus stop:)
pah. Back to an evening in mixing Euro 2008 and the Lisbon post mortem
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June 13, 2008 at 6:28 pm #766337
djasmith
Participant@jdivision wrote:
Y is Carvills on Camden Street I think
Not Camden street……… Try the other side of town…
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June 13, 2008 at 8:49 pm #766338
jdivision
ParticipantViolets on Dorset Street?
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June 14, 2008 at 11:37 am #766339
djasmith
Participantno……… ye’re right about the abbey street building and also the ‘pig trap’ on the south docks…. Still the firefighting plaque and the gable……. And they’re buildings that most of ye walk past every day…. opposite sides of town though…
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June 14, 2008 at 5:33 pm #766340
gunter
ParticipantThe gable with the 1889 date stone is somewhere around the junction of Middle abbey Street and Liffey Street, I think.
Does it face north up towards The ILAC centre? or east down Middle Abbey? It’s there somewhere near the back of M&S, right?
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June 14, 2008 at 7:34 pm #766341
GrahamH
ParticipantGot it in one, gunter. It terminates the vista from the ILAC looking south. Would have thought that to be one of the easier ones!
Can’t place the outstanding case though…
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June 15, 2008 at 3:25 pm #766342
notjim
ParticipantI already got the firefighters, they are on the side of the Naughton Institute, TCD.
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June 15, 2008 at 7:45 pm #766343
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June 15, 2008 at 9:01 pm #766344
GrahamH
ParticipantApologies notjim – so I see.
Regarding above: the red brick on Eden Quay with the granite pediment?
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June 15, 2008 at 9:21 pm #766345
gunter
ParticipantVery good!
Eden Quay it is.
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June 15, 2008 at 10:25 pm #766346
djasmith
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
Got it in one, gunter. It terminates the vista from the ILAC looking south. Would have thought that to be one of the easier ones!
Can’t place the outstanding case though…
Thats the lot – and yes the firefighting one is on the side of a trinity building along pearse street.
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June 16, 2008 at 7:13 am #766347
notjim
ParticipantA roided-up Victorian doorway:
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June 23, 2008 at 4:52 pm #766348
notjim
ParticipantBuilt in the year 5618: bonus mark if you know when it was built.
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June 23, 2008 at 5:03 pm #766349
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterThat’s Fairview Strand isn’t it?
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June 23, 2008 at 5:34 pm #766350
notjim
ParticipantWow; that was fast, it is a small Jewish graveyard on the north side of Fairview Strand, the date is 1858 in the Gregorian calendar. There is a Mary in the window above the door, so I guess it is no longer owned by Jews, I have for years wanted to ask to see the graveyard, but have never quite gotten around to it.
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June 23, 2008 at 5:38 pm #766351
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterI lived for a year on Windsor Avenue just down the street ….
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July 8, 2008 at 2:33 pm #766352
Ebear
ParticipantI came across this thread last week and spent all week catching up with it. As a non architect can I say thanks for the education and the entertainment. It drove me back out at the weekend to walk 6 km through the city with new eyes (and a camera).
I take it Hutton’s heads didn’t get their own thread. Surely this beauty deserves inclusion:
Of course she may be considered too young to be in the company of so many old men, so we’ll provide her with a couple of older godparents as chaperones:
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July 8, 2008 at 3:27 pm #766353
notjim
ParticipantThe lower two are on John Richardson Quay?
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July 8, 2008 at 3:32 pm #766354
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterFirst one is Kildare Street – Department of Industry and Commerce
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July 8, 2008 at 3:46 pm #766355
GrahamH
ParticipantDefo. The latter two famously are a century older than the warehouse that hosts them, having been salvaged from James Gandon’s Carlisle – now O’Connell – Bridge upon reconstruction in 1880. They’re also much more accomplished than their replacements, being vigorously carved by Edward Smyth.
They look magnificent in their new setting nonetheless.
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July 8, 2008 at 3:50 pm #766356
notjim
ParticipantWow I didn’t know that, that’s very interesting GH, thanks!
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July 8, 2008 at 3:57 pm #766357
Ebear
ParticipantYes, here’s the warehouse in question, just down from the British and Irish Steam Packet Company featured earlier.
I had reckoned these had to be salvage and was going to ask if anyone knew anything about them, so thanks for the info GH.
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July 8, 2008 at 4:30 pm #766358
GrahamH
ParticipantAnd the original hump-backed bridge 🙂
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July 8, 2008 at 4:45 pm #766359
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterI heard a rumour that the building is under threat – structurally not sound.
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July 8, 2008 at 9:17 pm #766360
tommyt
Participant@Paul Clerkin wrote:
I heard a rumour that the building is under threat – structurally not sound.
Are Principle Management still in there? I presume they will go to the U2 tower if it ever happens-was a very nice renovation on the inside (better than the Not-Us office ran out of a
garden shed on the Merrion Road before they decamped offshore with Bono and the boys’ billions;)The rear part of the building was also occupied by several music biz offices – that did seem in bad nick the last time I was there 4/5 years ago…
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July 9, 2008 at 4:48 pm #766361
notjim
ParticipantAnd where is this crime being committed?
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July 9, 2008 at 8:09 pm #766362
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July 9, 2008 at 8:27 pm #766363
notjim
Participantand what’s more this is its third rebranding in since it was the Waxie Dargle, they tried a youth bar “Euphoria”, then a fancy bar whose name I have already forgotten and now this attempt at the tourist market.
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July 9, 2008 at 10:14 pm #766364
gunter
Participantnotjim, you might get this one!
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July 9, 2008 at 10:17 pm #766365
urbanisto
ParticipantKings Inns
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July 9, 2008 at 10:55 pm #766366
gunter
ParticipantGood guess, but not the King’s Inns.
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July 9, 2008 at 11:08 pm #766367
notjim
ParticipantIs it Tolka Valley Park?
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July 9, 2008 at 11:24 pm #766368
gunter
ParticipantNot Tolka Valley Park.
and in no way did you win that urban lawn argument.
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July 9, 2008 at 11:33 pm #766369
notjim
ParticipantGrahamH agreed with me, that counts for winning around here.
Single digit postcode? And we’re to assume it isn’t the Park?
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July 9, 2008 at 11:45 pm #766370
gunter
ParticipantSingle digit post code and not the Park.
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July 10, 2008 at 8:43 am #766371
igy
ParticipantFairview park?
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July 10, 2008 at 8:53 am #766372
notjim
ParticipantIf it is Fairview it is a very cunning shot, Fairview is more filled with hedging and goal posts and headless Sean Russells and so on than the park in the photo. St Anne’s isn’t so hilly, Griffith Valley Park is too small.
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July 10, 2008 at 9:08 am #766373
kefu
ParticipantGardens at Royal Hospital
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July 10, 2008 at 9:16 am #766374
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July 13, 2008 at 7:04 pm #766375
notjim
ParticipantSo this is in the obvious place but I thought it was worth posting since it is such a classic late-Victorian warehouse.
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July 13, 2008 at 9:22 pm #766376
gunter
ParticipantIs it Mary’s Abbey off Capel Street?
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July 13, 2008 at 9:41 pm #766377
notjim
ParticipantClose; right idea.
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July 14, 2008 at 12:45 am #766378
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterNorth Lotts – behind Middle Abbey Street….
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July 14, 2008 at 7:01 am #766379
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August 23, 2008 at 11:46 pm #766380
gunter
ParticipantIt’s a slow day, so here’s a teaser.
An early 18th century, inner city, Dublin church. It was altered in the 20th century by the addition of another storey in concrete and was demolished in the 1990s. I haven’t seen it in any of the books. The question is, where was it?
How it was allowed to be demolished would be another question.
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August 27, 2008 at 11:47 am #766381
SeamusOG
ParticipantIt is unusual – though probably a great honour, etc., etc., for this building:D – to appear on this thread posthumously.
I wonder does GrahamH plan to apply Nobel Prize criteria in this kind of situation, prior to the roll-out for other cities.:)
Anyway, Gunter, the silence indicates that we are struggling. Any chance of a further clue?
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August 27, 2008 at 11:51 am #766382
GrahamH
ParticipantDid gunter perchance give it away on another thread of late? It may have been swiftly mentioned…
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August 27, 2008 at 12:00 pm #766383
gunter
ParticipantThe attrition rate on Presbyterian churchs in Dublin seems to be particularly high. Is there not some Presbyterian Preservation society? or are they all too mean to buy postage stamps for protest letters?
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August 27, 2008 at 12:24 pm #766384
ctesiphon
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
Did gunter perchance give it away on another thread of late? It may have been swiftly mentioned…
Indeed. From the VHI/Abbey Street thread:
@gunter wrote:
If Dublin City Council had wanted to protect a Scots Presbyterian Church, the one to protect was the, 300 year old, one in Swift’s Alley off Francis Street (from the ‘How well do you Know Dublin’ thread), reportedly the first Presbyterian church in Dublin,
To be honest, the picture stumped me. I wasn’t aware of the building at all.
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August 27, 2008 at 12:46 pm #766385
GrahamH
ParticipantLikewise. It’s very like St. Mark’s Church on Pearse Street. Where exactly was it gunter, and when was it knocked do you know?
And in a similar vein, and right next door, it seems another structure here has recently bitten the dust that’s been puzzling me for a while. Christine Casey mentions the following: “Nearby on Garden Lane is a simple classical building of 1819, now used as an abattoir. An attractive essay in the utilitarian classicism practised by Francis Johnston and his circle. Two-storey three-bay central block, rendered with blind ground-floor arcade, panelled screen walls and an arch at each end. What was its original purpose?”
A more pertinent question now is where was it? There’s nothing of this nature on the abattoir site that I’m aware of. Was it on the site of the thoroughly hideous block of apartments that’s just gone up with multiple dead frontages onto Carman’s Hall and Catherine Street? This would have been developed after the area was surveyed.
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August 27, 2008 at 4:43 pm #766386
gunter
ParticipantThe church was just behind the boundary wall on Swift’s Alley at the back of Chadwick’s yard (Dublin Saw Mills).
1986 revised edition O.S. mapThe way I remember it, the roof and gables had been taken off and a large concrete top storey added (in the 30s ?). It either had a flat roof, or possibly no roof at the time that I became conscious of it. Forklift trucks used to whizz around it and a number of other interesting timber roofef sheds at the back of the builders providers, and then one day it was gone.
Around the same time, a Zoe apartment scheme was built opposite the Iveagh Markets on Francis Street that wrapped around the corner into Swift’s Alley and I not sure if the church site wasn’t incorporated into that site. That Zoe development was stalled for years in a half built state and there was talk of planning problems, but I doubt that the church was any part of these problems.
The similarities with St. Mark’s struck me too and the similarities would lead one to conclude that the simple over-hanging gutters and the little stone eaves brackets at St Mark’s may have been a Victorian alteration replacing parapet walls, as here at Swift’s Alley. The parapet walls do reduce the barn like dominance of the roof, which is a bit of a characteristic of St. Mark’s.
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August 27, 2008 at 6:12 pm #766387
gunter
Participant@gunter wrote:
Around the same time, a Zoe apartment scheme was built opposite the Iveagh Markets on Francis Street that wrapped around the corner into Swift’s Alley and I not sure if the church site wasn’t incorporated into that site.
No, I just checked. The church site is marked by a new high reinforced concrete wall on Swift’s Alley, with building materials peeping up on the other side. The Zoe scheme adjoins that site to the east.
I think the church was demolished about 10 years ago, which probably means it was 15 years ago.
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August 27, 2008 at 10:32 pm #766388
gunter
ParticipantJust in the interests of not spreading bad information, I checked Douglas Bennett’s Encyclopaedia of Dublin (1994).
This is his entry for Swift’s Alley Church:
A Baptist meeting house was built in 1653 in an alley between Francis Street and Meath Street with a lease from Goodwin Swift after whom the Alley is named. The building was demolished and a new one built in 1738. In 1835 it was leased as a chapel of ease to St. Catherine’s Church, when £3,000 was spent on refurbishing the building. Swift’s Alley Church was closed in 1891.So Baptist, not Presbyterian, I knew there were Bibles involved, and not 300 years old, 270 years old.
I don’t suppose there are too many Baptists at large in the city any more.
It’s interesting to reflect that the Liberties was probably Dublin’s first multi-cultural quarter, with large numbers of Hugenot French, English settlers (such as Swift’s parents), colourful weaver types and exotic religious sub-groups. That would give modern day Parnell Street a run for it’s money.
I see that DCC are advertising for submissions on a ‘Draft Local Area Plan for the Liberties’, (deadline 10th Sept. ’08).
*must put together an outraged rant*
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August 28, 2008 at 11:46 pm #766389
gunter
ParticipantFollowing the success of the Swift’s Alley Church . .
Here’s another oldie. Would anyone like to have a stab at naming this location?
This was about 1955, when billboards were billboards, none of your wimpy JC Decaux two foot square jobs.
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August 29, 2008 at 1:13 am #766390
ctesiphon
ParticipantNorth King Street?
Long shot, but I need to say it in order to clear my head.
Is the whiteish building with the gable at the end of the vists still standing? Or the Bedding Manufacturers?
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August 29, 2008 at 2:41 am #766391
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterHmmmm I know that one…. i do i do…
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August 29, 2008 at 8:25 am #766392
GP
ParticipantThe bedding manufacturers looks very familiar, but I think there used to be another building on the south quays with the same signs. I agree with ctesiphon about the feel of North King Street, there is the feel therer used to be the markets area, a lot of mud and cobbles. It also it reminds me of the old Upper Abbey Street where Moorkins used to be. Having said that what about Queen Street? Final answer.
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August 29, 2008 at 9:30 am #766393
gunter
ParticipantNo right answers yet.
I don’t think that one single building in this photograph still stands.
That does add to the degree of difficulty 🙂
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August 29, 2008 at 10:03 am #766394
kefu
ParticipantParnell Street
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August 29, 2008 at 10:16 am #766395
hutton
Participant@gunter wrote:
No right answers yet.
I don’t think that one single building in this photograph still stands.
That does add to the degree of difficulty 🙂
Ah jaysus Gunter, are we now going to have a thread of “How well do you know your Dublin that no longer exists?”
Cuffe Street so – and not the little one now known as Ellis Street :p
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August 29, 2008 at 10:26 am #766396
gunter
ParticipantNot Cuffe St. not Parnell St.
If you’re going to do an A – Z you’ll eventually get it.
I have another picture (almost the same) but with a clue in it. Might think about posting it, if I feel you’re making a genuine effort.
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August 29, 2008 at 11:11 am #766397
ctesiphon
ParticipantDoes posting from bed at 2 am not count as ‘a genuine effort’? 🙁
Last night’s other guess: looking east along The Coombe. But the wholesale demolition might undermine that answer…
Also, given the total lack of extant fabric, is it even recognisable today? Is the lamp standard in situ (Graham)? Is the road layout the same? Is the billboard still there?
One more guess (nothing educated about this): Kevin Street?
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August 29, 2008 at 11:14 am #766398
gunter
ParticipantCorrection:
One building (just visible) survives today!
ctesiphon: It’s identifyable by the degree to which it is unrecognisable
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August 29, 2008 at 11:17 am #766399
GrahamH
ParticipantLooking down The Coombe/Dean Street from outside the Widows’ Almshouses with the gabled school to the right? All buildings to the left on the current site of the convent et al?
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August 29, 2008 at 11:18 am #766400
GrahamH
ParticipantAlthough St. Luke’s Avenue wasn’t as such was it…
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August 29, 2008 at 11:20 am #766401
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August 29, 2008 at 11:22 am #766402
GrahamH
ParticipantSee how I got that qualifier in before you posted. Always cover yourself.
It’s remarkable how a place can look so like a place, and yet not be that place.
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August 29, 2008 at 11:26 am #766403
gunter
ParticipantI’ve got to go bluff my way through a meeting.
Here’s that other pic (with the clue).
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August 29, 2008 at 11:29 am #766404
GP
ParticipantGot you! It’s Mrs Duff on the right from No.4, and she’s just missed her bus!
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August 29, 2008 at 11:33 am #766405
ctesiphon
ParticipantWhich bit is the clue? The buses?
New guess (hey Graham- get your own! No cogging like last time ^^^. :D)- Werburgh Street?
I’m feeling D8, but maybe that’s just because I’m slowly discovering your stomping grounds by triangulation.
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August 29, 2008 at 11:38 am #766406
constat
ParticipantClanbrassil st ?
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August 29, 2008 at 11:40 am #766407
GrahamH
ParticipantOh that’s a good one constat. It’s quite a grand street this, with a good sense of enclosure and of course grand lamp standards. I suspect it’s an area that’s now completely dominated by traffic.
Defo not Werburgh Street (where do they get these people from…)
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August 29, 2008 at 11:48 am #766408
GP
ParticipantShould we be concentrating on the gables on the right in the first picture? Has a feel of Tailors Hall, second pic is too flat to be Cornmarket. The amazing thing is that this a blighted street, on that the engineers got their hands on and still is is recognisable a Dublin. Place and placelessness!. I wonder what they will say in 30 years when they are looking pics of glass sheet.
Gunter I have to say I follow your posts and like 99% of them but you are a real pain to put this one in our brains over the weekend.
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August 29, 2008 at 1:10 pm #766409
constat
ParticipantThere wouldn’t happen to be a block of flats (similar to the one’s pictured on the Dutch Billie thread at Weaver Square) in the spot where that Billboard stands ?
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August 29, 2008 at 1:19 pm #766410
ctesiphon
ParticipantJust re-posting these on this page for convenience:
Any chance of a(n actual) clue? Which side of the city? Or even a postcode?
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August 29, 2008 at 1:40 pm #766411
constat
ParticipantAnyone got some fancy software to enhance the number of that damn bus?
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August 29, 2008 at 1:50 pm #766412
gunter
ParticipantMy money is on GP
Pretty sure the buses are a 78 passing a 21.
If Busman wasn’t resting, he’d have the two routes analysed by now and pin-pointed their intersection!
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August 29, 2008 at 1:58 pm #766413
ctesiphon
ParticipantWell the 78 runs to Ballyfermot, as does the 79 (which was my guess at the number), but zooming in on a photo of that resolution just results in blurry pixels. We’d need a higher res scan to verify it. Also, there’s no 21 service (any more?).
78 & 79 today run Aston Quay via St John’s Road West and Kylemore Road church to Ballyfermot. Are we close?
And if we can’t have the side of the city or the postcode, can we have the direction of the photo? I keep thinking it’s facing east, but that’s a groundless presumption.
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August 29, 2008 at 2:05 pm #766414
constat
ParticipantDidn’t the 21 bus go up through Inchicore?
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August 29, 2008 at 2:09 pm #766415
hutton
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Well the 78 runs to Ballyfermot… there’s no 21 service (any more?).
Darn, in youre in there before me CTE… there’s no 21 anymore and the 78 runs out to the Liam Lawlor Memorial Mall at Quarryvale…
It’s got to be somewhere on the inner-tangent route, or some such blighted place… it’s got Cork Street/ dean Street written all over it, but it’s just not… Can’t be anywhere where the Wide Streets Comms were involved, judging by the irregularity of building lines etc… hmmm….
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August 29, 2008 at 2:23 pm #766416
ctesiphon
ParticipantCork Street was on my mind alright, especially as the photo date is pre-Inner Tangent, and I don’t think it’s been rubbished as an answer (yet).
But Ballyfermot and Inchicore routes wouldn’t have used Cork Street…
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August 29, 2008 at 2:26 pm #766417
gunter
ParticipantIf you guys don’t get your act together, I’m going to give this to GP.
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August 29, 2008 at 2:40 pm #766418
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August 29, 2008 at 2:42 pm #766419
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August 29, 2008 at 2:42 pm #766420
hutton
Participant… (Re via High St) Which also could have been the routes for the 21 if it was going to Inchicore and maybe the 78…
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August 29, 2008 at 2:44 pm #766421
hutton
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Well either he (he?) got it or he didn’t!
If it’s not Francis Street or Meath Street, I give up.
Well he said it was “too flat”… and as we all know, gunter is quite the pinickity sort :p
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August 29, 2008 at 2:45 pm #766422
hutton
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Are you saying Tailor’s Hall can be seen, hutton?
I am that!!!
Right-hand side – right-end of, and behind, the billboard in the 1st photo…
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August 29, 2008 at 2:47 pm #766423
urbanisto
ParticipantI think its Cork Street
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August 29, 2008 at 2:54 pm #766424
GrahamH
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Cork Street was on my mind
There’s a song title in that. Of the saccharine melancholy variety,
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August 29, 2008 at 3:02 pm #766425
GrahamH
ParticipantWe must bear in mind the lamppost. These never featured in the Liberties, and certainly not on Cork Street. There’s certain a northside fringes-of-a-Georgian-area quality to this place that’s difficult to pinpoint. Like Parnell Street shortly after it was bombed (by the Corpwaffe) in the 70s, or the Summerhill/Mountjoy area but less ordered. Testy.
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August 29, 2008 at 3:10 pm #766426
constat
ParticipantBut the 78 bus route never took it over the north side…:confused:
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August 29, 2008 at 3:14 pm #766427
GrahamH
ParticipantThe 70 perhaps? The winding street is certainly more reminicent of the south side alright, but clearly on the fringes of a ‘respectable’ area. Cuffe Street area maybe?
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August 29, 2008 at 3:35 pm #766428
constat
ParticipantThat (church?) on right doesn’t ring a bell:p
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August 29, 2008 at 3:35 pm #766429
ctesiphon
ParticipantCork Street was on my mind.
So little of the day remains,
So much now left behind.Unreclaimable, misspent.
Regrets? Perhaps a few,
But that is how it went.And yet, we’re still in the dark.
Not waving but drowning,
But always seeking the Arch-.Once gamekeeper, now poacher,
Now hunted, once hunter,
O preserve my sanity!
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August 29, 2008 at 3:36 pm #766430
ctesiphon
ParticipantAah, sweet, the glory of the page break. 😉
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August 29, 2008 at 5:25 pm #766431
gunter
Participant@hutton wrote:
High Street, from the Cornmarket end – Tailors’ Hall, it’s got to be and would be the one survivor… 😉
@GP wrote:
Should we be concentrating on the gables on the right in the first picture? Has a feel of Tailors Hall, second pic is too flat to be Cornmarket.
‘Tis High Street from Cornmarket with Taylors’ Hall peeping up as the sole survivor.
Sorry I had to step out for a spell, I didn’t realize this was still going on!
A bar of virtual chocolate for Hutton, and I’m afraid, a ‘what could have been’ for GP
PS
Does anyone know if there’s a High Street / Cornmarket thread? When I type that into the search box, it jumps around a bit comes back to the page I was on.
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August 29, 2008 at 6:45 pm #766432
hutton
Participant@gunter wrote:
‘Tis High Street from Cornmarket with Taylors’ Hall peeping up as the sole survivor.
A bar of virtual chocolate for Hutton
Happy days 🙂
Of course you do know that was a bit cruel gunter – showing all buildings that are no longer there, with a view of Tailors’ Hall that no longer exists…
I think it’s only fair to split my virtual chocolate bar with GP 🙂
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August 29, 2008 at 9:42 pm #766433
GrahamH
ParticipantThe depth of buildings in front of Tailors Hall is really quite something. It’d bring a tear to the eye, almost as much as ctesiphon’s heart-warming tribute. Although ‘Perhaps a few’ is ever so slightly the understatement of the century.
There’s also great images of the excavation of High Street in the 1970s. The false sense of optimisim you glean from them is quite bizarre – as if this central area of such importance had been cleared in anticipation of some urban greatness of mammoth ambition. Until they poured some asphalt over it all and shouted ‘finished!”
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August 29, 2008 at 9:48 pm #766434
hutton
ParticipantIt’s the terrace on the left and the buildings closing the vista that’s the real loss. 🙁
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August 29, 2008 at 10:03 pm #766435
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August 29, 2008 at 10:20 pm #766436
Anonymous
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
Until they poured some asphalt over it all and shouted ‘finished!”
That is the real tragedy; it took the private sector 15 years to put bland suburban office park crap up on the bits that were left behind which we are probably stuck with as they got as much onto the site as you would be allowed to in terms of massing which is due to what is now rightly regarded as a sensitive location.
When one compares High Street with say the Cork Street Extension which although the architecture is mixed at best it was at least done at roughly the same time. The buildings at the end appear to be what is now the Jurys hotel and looked very interesting and certainly far more fitting to the cathedral opposite.
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August 30, 2008 at 12:52 am #766437
ctesiphon
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
The depth of buildings in front of Tailors Hall is really quite something.
I’m still having a hard time believing that it’s the same building. And not just the depth, but the height too.
It’d bring a tear to the eye, almost as much as ctesiphon’s heart-warming tribute. Although ‘Perhaps a few’ is ever so slightly the understatement of the century.
Wow. My intentions were far humbler, more prosaic, but I can completely understand you reading it that way now that you say it! In that case, change ‘Perhaps a few’ to ‘More than a few’ (it actually works better that way in both interpretations).
(Also, the last line scans better as ‘Victorious gunter’, but I’m not changing that until I get a virtual sherbet fountain for effort! :D)
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August 30, 2008 at 11:55 am #766438
GregF
ParticipantThe 78 bus route was always Ballyfermot, Kilmainham / Inchicore, Mount Brown, James St, Thomas St, High St, Christ Church, City Centre.
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September 1, 2008 at 7:12 am #766439
GP
ParticipantHutton, thanks! Let you share me bag o’sweets any day!
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September 8, 2008 at 2:32 pm #766440
hutton
Participant@GP wrote:
Hutton, thanks! Let you share me bag o’sweets any day!
Most welcome 🙂
Signs on it’s time for a little bit of mischief…
A First one is quite easy –
B Second one might drive a few round the bend –
C Third one is enough to send a man to drink…
Extra cyber sweeties for those who spot my twisted little theme 😀
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September 8, 2008 at 2:39 pm #766441
GregF
ParticipantIs Image B Hume Street / Stephen’s Green? (with the pastiche redevelopment built by Sam Stephenson on the corner)
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September 8, 2008 at 2:41 pm #766442
GregF
ParticipantNice traditional signwriting in Image C…of which ye don’t see much of anymore.
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September 8, 2008 at 2:42 pm #766443
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September 8, 2008 at 2:43 pm #766444
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September 8, 2008 at 2:46 pm #766445
adhoc
Participanta: 35 Camden Street – Harcourt Health (but I cheated – Google+telephone no.)
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September 8, 2008 at 2:51 pm #766446
urbanisto
ParticipantB is Merrion Square…corner with Lower Mount Street
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September 8, 2008 at 2:55 pm #766447
hutton
Participant@adhoc wrote:
a: 35 Camden Street – Harcourt Health (but I cheated – Google+telephone no.)
That it is. Note you admit your cheating; darn – should have spotted the phone no. when dubbing out. Between your cheating, and my cock-up, back of the class for both of us 😮
Still, it’s nice to be able to get your cigars and tobacco blended while waiting to see the doctor 😀
@GregF, subsequently edited wrote:
Is Image B Hume Street / Stephen’s Green? (with the pastiche redevelopment built by Sam Stephenson on the corner)
Oi! You! GregF – you don’t get off that easy; back of the class for you too – you can’t get away with slyly editing your post subsequently…
And if that was pastiche by Sam, then he did a mighty fine job… but it’s not 😉
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September 8, 2008 at 2:56 pm #766448
hutton
Participant@StephenC wrote:
B is Merrion Square…corner with Lower Mount Street
Aha! Give that man a choc ice.
Now why have I chosen that view in particular?
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September 8, 2008 at 3:51 pm #766449
ctesiphon
Participant@hutton wrote:
Now why have I chosen that view in particular?
Something to do with JCDecaux? 😀 Or misleading road signage?
I got A & B, but C eludes me. Possibly Temple Bar Square?
While I’m here:
(gunter- I’m giving the others a 24 hour head start over you, if you don’t mind. 😉 You could presumably answer this one in your sleep.)
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September 8, 2008 at 4:09 pm #766450
urbanisto
ParticipantIs C Keogh’s on South Anne Street
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September 8, 2008 at 4:38 pm #766451
Paul Clerkin
Keymasteris C the Ha’penny Inn?
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September 8, 2008 at 9:01 pm #766452
ctesiphon
ParticipantThe Mercantile?
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September 8, 2008 at 9:09 pm #766453
alonso
Participantare we just naming boozers now? P.Ryan of Baggot Street? 🙂
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September 8, 2008 at 9:38 pm #766454
manifesta
ParticipantCigarettes, reckless driving, and booze? Is the theme: hutton’s triangle of vice? Maslow’s hierarchy of needs? (or would that be hier-archi?) :p
Lovely 1903 relief. Stumped, however, on that one. In the meantime, here’s three more:
E
F
G
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September 8, 2008 at 9:40 pm #766455
Paul Clerkin
Keymastere and g are too easy….
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September 8, 2008 at 10:42 pm #766456
gunter
ParticipantCan you clarify the prize fund? Hutton is offering cyber sweeties, I didn’t catch what ctesiphon and manifest were offering.
I don’t know about other posters, but gunter doesn’t get out of bed for less than virtual candy.
Can we assume that all legal boundaries have been observed (Rules & Procedures, Vols. 1 – 17, 2008 amended edition) and that the 1903 is within the canals?
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September 8, 2008 at 11:01 pm #766457
manifesta
ParticipantGunter: always one for the details. From me one may expect, for the correct delivery of answers, and the avoidance of accusations of the dumbing-down of the forum (I’m aghast), a tray of virtual sweets culled from the finest confectioners, intelligently melted, molded, and cooled free of charge, to be e-delivered to the clever recipient at manifesta’s earliest convenience.
I also top them off with instant ego gratification sauce, if you say something nice about the pictures.
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September 9, 2008 at 10:23 am #766458
Anonymous
InactiveE: Pearse Street (Beside Luce Hall)
F: Opposite the Black Church
G: Dental HospitalI think, anyway.
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September 9, 2008 at 10:32 am #766459
ctesiphon
ParticipantIf I just admire the pictures, can I get the sauce without the sweets? Nice photos!
Anyway, Paul got E and G (we presume), whilst I know F. I should say, I think F is no longer in situ, though it was there a year ago. I’ll leave it for others to have a go, as you could say I have an unfair advantage regarding that particular location.
As for mine (which is being called D, I presume), it most certainly is within the canals, and it most certainly is visible from the public highway, though it’s a quiet street. And Yes, it might have been photographed on the same wander as the possible Billy on Cork Street as posted elsewhere recently. Maybe I’ll put up another map showing the cycle route again?
As for a prize? I’ve been told I give good bike tours, so a chaperoned excursion to the lucky winner, perhaps? (Bicycle to be provided.) Failing that, a plate of coddle, a pint of porter and a wearying disquisition on Dublin in the rare ould times*- take your pick!
*This, for me, extends back to Grafton Street with cars on it and Wood Quay when it were all just fields (of mud and archaeology).
Edit: phil- I think you might be onto something. (And hello stranger!)
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September 9, 2008 at 11:54 am #766460
GregF
ParticipantIs G the former Richmond Hospital, now a courthouse?
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September 9, 2008 at 12:01 pm #766461
GregF
ParticipantFor C, I’d go with the Ha’penny Bridge Inn as well!
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September 9, 2008 at 12:26 pm #766462
missarchi
Participantwhat building is this ??? and any other info…
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September 9, 2008 at 1:22 pm #766463
hutton
Participant@Paul Clerkin wrote:
is C the Ha’penny Inn?
@alonso wrote:
I reckon Ha’Penny inn is a good bet though… can’t think of many green pubs
@GregF wrote:
For C, I’d go with the Ha’penny Bridge Inn as well!
All correct. Cyber sweeties-a-plenty 🙂
And of course the notion was odd or mischief signs – N11 is a mile off course, liqueur/ liquor is misspelt, etc.
D, E, and Missarchi’s most recent addition have all got me…
@phil wrote:
F: Opposite the Black Church.
Agree – and it is still en situ, was til last week anyway…
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September 9, 2008 at 3:04 pm #766464
manifesta
Participant@phil wrote:
E: Pearse Street (Beside Luce Hall)
F: Opposite the Black Church
G: Dental HospitalI think, anyway.
Yum! Three delicious trays of gourmet goodies to phil, with extra chocolate for getting them all in one go.
One tray of gourmet goodies to hutton for having the good sense to agree and verify. Extra sugary topping for the cool guess-my-theme game in his own trilogy of pictures. More, please.
Lastly, one generous portion of ego gratification sauce to ctesiphon, whose Pint of Plain Dublin Disquisition bicycle tours are not to be beat. And whose strangely shaped cycle route maps are one of my favorite diversions… hint hint.
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September 9, 2008 at 5:03 pm #766465
ctesiphon
ParticipantHint?
I’m supposed to be hanging curtains and painting the pipes in the bathroom, dammit! The things I do for you people…
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September 9, 2008 at 7:28 pm #766466
gunter
ParticipantWhy would you cycle around the four sides of Merrion Square?
Did you miss the exit the first time?
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September 9, 2008 at 9:26 pm #766467
ctesiphon
ParticipantHighly irregular, ’tis true, but I hope I may be forgiven- I was escorting a young lady from Paris who fancied a turn around the park.
Oh la la!
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September 10, 2008 at 11:01 am #766468
missarchi
ParticipantI will give you a hint its on the liffey near DCC
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September 10, 2008 at 11:21 am #766469
GregF
ParticipantIs it the ‘Sunlight Chambers’ Missarchi?
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September 10, 2008 at 11:24 am #766470
GregF
Participantna ….The Victorian style sculpture monument on Burgh Quay?
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September 10, 2008 at 11:35 am #766471
GrahamH
ParticipantLooks like part of an overdoor panel on an independence era limestone building – Manfield Chambers on O’Connell Street/Middle Abbey Street or the earlier Morrison Chambers at No. 1 Dawson Street. Hard to reconcile the possible gothic arch though.
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September 10, 2008 at 11:39 am #766472
urbanisto
ParticipantIts not 1 Dawson Street…I checked. My first thought
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September 10, 2008 at 11:39 am #766473
hutton
ParticipantDon’t suppose it’s in Dublin Castle?
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September 10, 2008 at 11:40 am #766474
GrahamH
ParticipantDarn. And nope!
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September 10, 2008 at 1:34 pm #766475
urbanisto
ParticipantIt is the Museum Building in TCD or the Old Library…?
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September 10, 2008 at 2:31 pm #766476
GregF
ParticipantIs it part of a Church building Missarchi?
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September 10, 2008 at 2:55 pm #766477
Anonymous
Inactive@GregF wrote:
Is it part of a Church building Missarchi?
Indeed? Is it the former Presbyterian Church on Ormonde Quay? As in the part that remains and is now incorporated in to the offices?
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September 10, 2008 at 3:40 pm #766478
manifesta
ParticipantAha! I knew ctesiphon would only cross lines on a route if there was a good reason.
Gunter and I are onto you. 😉
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September 10, 2008 at 4:12 pm #766479
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterIt’s Sunlight Chambers I believe
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September 10, 2008 at 5:27 pm #766480
missarchi
ParticipantGreg F in first place although he seemed unsure
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September 10, 2008 at 10:11 pm #766481
gunter
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Hint?
The things I do for you people…
Picking up your vapour trail on Ranelagh Road, across the canal to Charlemont Street, left at Harcourt Road, right to Camden St., Wexford Street, Aungier St., South Great Georges St., right onto Dame St. College Green, Westmoreland St., O’Connell Bridge, right to Eden Quay, left to Malbourough Street, Right to Lower Abbey Street, right (against traffic) to Beresford Place, right to Eden Quay, Left to O’Connell Bridge, D’Olier St. right to College St. College Green, Nassau St., South Leinster St. Clare St. Merrion Square (full circuit, takes photograph of shapely companion), Upper Mount St, around Pepper Canister, Right onto canal at Warrington Pl., stayed on canal until Harrold’s Cross Bridge, right to Clanbrassil St., left at Malpas St., right at Blackpitts, left to Mill St. right to Mill Lane, left to Newmarket, Chamber St. into Weaver Square (poked around) right to Ormond St., right onto Cork St., (took photo of possible Billy), left up Ardee St., Pimlico, right onto Marrowbone Lane, right to Earl St. South, left onto Meath St., right onto Thomas St., Cornmarket, High St., right at Christchurch to Nicholas St., Patrick St., left to St. Patrick’s Close, left to Kevin St., right to New Bride St., Heytesbury St. (crossing outward route), left onto Grantham St. around Bleeding Horse to Harcourt St., right to Charlemont St. and across canal to leafy surburbia.
So where’s the bloody 1903 building?
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September 10, 2008 at 10:52 pm #766482
ctesiphon
Participant@gunter wrote:
So where’s the bloody 1903 building?
…stayed on canal until Harrold’s Cross Bridge, right to Clanbrassil St., left at Malpas St., right at Blackpitts, left to Mill St. right to Mill Lane, left to Newmarket, Chamber St. into Weaver Square (poked around) right to Ormond St., right onto Cork St., (took photo of possible Billy), left up Ardee St., Pimlico…
Over your left shoulder as you’re facing the redbrick Billy on Mill Street, set into a roughcast warehouse wall. (Possibly not original to building, etc,)
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September 10, 2008 at 11:20 pm #766483
gunter
ParticipantDamn it!
and right down gunter’s alley too.
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September 10, 2008 at 11:40 pm #766484
ctesiphon
ParticipantIndeed. Mercifully, my own alley lies outside the boundaries of the game, so the revenge shall have to take a different form.
In the meantime, I’ll put the coddle in the bottom of the range. Sure it always tastes better when it’s had a bit of time to settle.
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September 21, 2008 at 4:36 pm #766485
hutton
ParticipantI return to a favourite theme, which has been nicely added to by Ebear and Morlan – decent heads that they are 🙂
Most of you will recall that a focus was given to carved heads and figurines around doorways and arches, with many featured from around the city – see page 18 for further details
https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=4641&page=18Well a few further additions now to add – all mixed up as ever, and from within the two canals. Enjoy 🙂
A
B
C
D
E
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September 21, 2008 at 4:36 pm #766486
hutton
Participant
I
J
K
L
M
N
O
P
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September 21, 2008 at 4:37 pm #766487
hutton
Participant
S
T
U
V
W
YX,Z = 😉
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September 22, 2008 at 4:19 pm #766488
gunter
Participant‘J’ and ‘S’ are a pair, and a high class pair at that.
They are screwed into the front facade at first floor level of no. 40 Bolton Street (3 doors from the Henrietta St corner).
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September 22, 2008 at 5:02 pm #766489
urbanisto
ParticipantIs G on St Georges Church at Hardwicke Place
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September 22, 2008 at 6:31 pm #766490
hutton
Participant@StephenC wrote:
Is G on St Georges Church at Hardwicke Place
Correct, it is indeed 🙂
@gunter wrote:
‘J’ and ‘S’ are a pair, and a high class pair at that.
They are screwed into the front facade at first floor level of no. 40 Bolton Street (3 doors from the Henrietta St corner).
The house is a probable former ‘Billy’, like no. 39 next door, which is how this picture found itself in gunter’s collection.Correct also – real craftsmanship going on here 😀
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September 26, 2008 at 3:17 am #766491
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterlooking through the photos tonight and here’s a few odd ones…
some of these will be quite easy – one especially to architects
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September 26, 2008 at 8:40 am #766492
Anonymous
InactivePaul, I think 2 is Blessington Basin.
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September 26, 2008 at 8:59 am #766493
ctesiphon
Participant@phil wrote:
Paul, I think 2 is Blessington Basin.
Agreed.
Is No.4 perhaps the door of the RIAI?
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September 26, 2008 at 9:32 am #766494
alonso
Participantso i have no photo of it but can someone tell me where the folowing can be seen on a plaque on the front of a building on a very busy city centre street:
“public lighting and water meter station”
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September 26, 2008 at 10:00 am #766495
kefu
ParticipantIs the first one the Greek Orthodox church [apologies if I’ve wrong religion] up at Arbour Hill?
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September 26, 2008 at 12:19 pm #766496
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterThe first one is the greek orthodox on Arbour Hill… the second one is blessington basin, I thopugh the lodge might throw people, obviously not…
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September 26, 2008 at 12:36 pm #766497
ctesiphon
ParticipantIs 3 the door of Bodkin’s, maybe?
(I’m clutching at straws [obviously] on foot of your ‘easy…to architects’ clue.)
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September 29, 2008 at 2:06 pm #766498
gunter
ParticipantAll order seems to broken down on this thread.
As far as I can tell, were still looking for a bunch of heads (surely K & L must be Hardwick St Church, if G is), a garishly tiled entrance lobby, a door knocker featuring a hand fondling a knob (is it a religious house by any chance?) and a plaque with something on it about public lighting & water meter station (no picture supplied)!
If that’s where we’re at, now might be a good time to throw in some sketches, which may not be very accurate, of some houses that aren’t there any more, with the same question: where?
X
YOne is dated ’24 Jan 1982′ and I think the other would be from about the same time, or slightly later.
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September 29, 2008 at 2:10 pm #766499
GrahamH
ParticipantEarlsfort Terrace?
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September 29, 2008 at 2:22 pm #766500
gunter
Participantno
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September 29, 2008 at 2:27 pm #766501
Anonymous
InactiveGunter, is X beside the Pepper Cannister Church? to the west side of it?
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September 29, 2008 at 2:36 pm #766502
Paul Clerkin
Keymaster@ctesiphon wrote:
Is 3 the door of Bodkin’s, maybe?
(I’m clutching at straws [obviously] on foot of your ‘easy…to architects’ clue.)
close but no cigar
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September 29, 2008 at 2:36 pm #766503
gunter
ParticipantPhil: Right period, I’d say, but wrong houses.
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September 29, 2008 at 4:45 pm #766504
alonso
Participantis x near baggot street lower – with the mews being Lad Lane? Only other guess would be Fitzwilliam Lane
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September 29, 2008 at 5:44 pm #766505
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September 30, 2008 at 2:17 pm #766506
Ebear
ParticipantStephens Place/Lower Mount Street?
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September 30, 2008 at 3:00 pm #766507
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September 30, 2008 at 3:36 pm #766508
SeamusOG
ParticipantWell done, Ebear. I knew I’d seen those mews buildings but couldn’t place them. So that “modern” building (is it Brennan Insurance?) was built in place of those old houses. Was the whole of/most of lower Mount Street in that style at some stage then, Gunter? What a ruin it is now, in comparison to Upper Mount Street.
And a pure guess at Y. Holles Street.
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September 30, 2008 at 3:44 pm #766509
hutton
Participant@Seamus O’G wrote:
Well done, Ebear…Was the whole of/most of lower Mount Street in that style at some stage then, Gunter? What a ruin it is now, in comparison to Upper Mount Street.
Indeed it was Seamus – the wreckers got hold of it in the 70’s and 80’s, and destroyed what was one of the finest Georgian Streets in the city – its all well documented in Frank McD’s “Destruction of Dublin” 🙁
Gunter is right about K and L – St Georges as well… and they’re not the only ones 😉
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September 30, 2008 at 9:13 pm #766510
gunter
Participant@Seamus O’G wrote:
a pure guess at Y. Holles Street.
Y has a slight slope, but it’s not Holles Street. It would be a bit older than that too.
@hutton wrote:
Re: Lower Mount Street
Indeed it was Seamus – the wreckers got hold of it in the 70’s and 80’s, and destroyed what was one of the finest Georgian Streets in the city – its all well documented in Frank McD’s “Destruction of Dublin” 🙁
I don’t think Lower Mount Street ever had the unity of Upper Mount street, but that doesn’t excuse the wanton destruction of so many of it’s original houses. For years, the street became a bye-line for dreary ‘modern’ office block architecture, didn’t somebody likened the streetscape of Lower Mount Street to ‘the view from the inside of a coffin’ ?
The neo-Georgian blocks were probably a reaction against the commercial, as much as the artistic, failure of the earlier ‘modern’ blocks, but they, in turn, brought their own shallowness to the streetscape. In any radio discussion on the state of Dublin, Lower Mount Street would always be mentioned and everyone knew exactly what was meant.
A couple of shots of the street today, including the neo-Georgian block that replaced the three houses in the sketch.
. . . and the next section further east, where an extensive renovation and conservation project on a group of houses that, I think had been a convent, has just been completed.
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September 30, 2008 at 10:49 pm #766511
alonso
Participantbugger. really shoulda got that MOunt St one
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October 1, 2008 at 10:16 am #766512
gunter
Participant@hutton wrote:
K and L – St Georges as well… and they’re not the only ones 😉
Are N & T part of the cornice of St. Georges, Hardwick St. ?
Y might have been a bit too difficult, this is a slightly wider view which may help.
The first 3 houses (one half shown) are still there, the other 7 were demolished in the late 80s or early 90s.
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October 1, 2008 at 10:29 am #766513
Anonymous
InactiveY …….Eccles Street?
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October 1, 2008 at 10:57 am #766514
GrahamH
Participantahhh South Frederick Street. The first doorway gave it away, as did the railings to the right of the corner house (Protected Structure) which has just has the most appalling double-glazed beaded tmber sashes installed. These yokes are spreading like wildfire through protected buildings in the city and there’s absolutely no enforcement.
Those oriel windows are an extraordinary phenomenon. There’s nothing like them in the city save houses on Earlsfort Terrace and the odd yoke up off Gardiner Street. I wonder what caused them here.
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October 1, 2008 at 11:12 am #766515
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October 1, 2008 at 7:34 pm #766516
notjim
ParticipantI just missed this on eBay: identified as “The Temple, Dublin”:
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October 1, 2008 at 7:46 pm #766517
Paul Clerkin
Keymastereh forgive me but you do know what it is? or are you putting it up as a question?
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October 1, 2008 at 8:00 pm #766518
notjim
ParticipantI am sure I am being stupid and will feel stupid when I am told, but I don’t know, no, so I am putting it up as a question but admittedly don’t know the answer, though I am sure it is obvious and I am dumb or the card is mislabeled.
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October 1, 2008 at 8:55 pm #766519
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterIt’s the Kings Inns – marked as the temple probably due to temple inns in London being the home of barristers….
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October 1, 2008 at 9:05 pm #766520
notjim
ParticipantOf course and now I feel just of dumb as I expected to feel.
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October 1, 2008 at 9:07 pm #766521
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterI feel your pain….
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October 1, 2008 at 9:12 pm #766522
notjim
Participantplus the pain of missing the card at auction, there was a great OCS one I also missed.
I love these old, 1860s, stereoviews for the sense of space. Anyway, thanks re Kings Inn and back to topic.
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October 18, 2008 at 10:49 pm #766523
gunter
ParticipantA slow day, so here’s a couple more teasers from the attic:
A Georgian and it’s half demolished neighbour from the 80s, all cleared shortly afterwards.
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October 19, 2008 at 7:47 am #766524
Anonymous
InactiveI think the second one is Wilton Place
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October 19, 2008 at 10:05 am #766525
SeamusOG
Participant@phil wrote:
I think the second one is Wilton Place
That was my first thought, Phil, if you’re thinking of the old Goulding building beside the canal. (i.e. the big one along that stretch).
(pardon the pedantry, but I think the address of that building might be Cumberland Road, rather than Wilton Place):)
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October 19, 2008 at 11:14 am #766526
ctesiphon
ParticipantThe bollards are certainly Grand Canal style. Which one is the Goulding building, Seamus- the IDA building or the tall one that houses William Fry, etc.? IDA would get my vote for this sketch, based on the traffic islands.
No idea on the first one.
While I’m here:
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October 19, 2008 at 1:15 pm #766527
SeamusOG
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
The bollards are certainly Grand Canal style. Which one is the Goulding building, Seamus- the IDA building or the tall one that houses William Fry, etc.? IDA would get my vote for this sketch, based on the traffic islands.
The “Goulding” building is the big one which houses William Fry and others, including (I think) the Australian Embassy. As far as I remember, it was originally the HQ of Goulding Fertilisers.
I may be mistaken, but I’ve a feeling that the other one you’re talking about, ctesiphon, – the IDA/An Foras Forbatha (sp?), WMK, etc, building – was built on the former grounds of Fitzwilliam Tennis Club.
Perhaps Gunter has a picture in his extensive collection of Rod Laver serving for the match against a backdrop of Georgian Dublin – as apparently he did in the Irish Open on a number of occasions – to help us get our bearings right.:D
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October 19, 2008 at 1:20 pm #766528
SeamusOG
ParticipantDouble Post – apologies
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October 19, 2008 at 1:51 pm #766529
gunter
Participant@Seamus O’G wrote:
. . . the IDA/An Foras Forbatha (sp?), WMK, etc, building – was built on the former grounds of Fitzwilliam Tennis Club.
Perhaps Gunter has a picture in his extensive collection of Rod Laver serving for the match against a backdrop of Georgian Dublin – as apparently he did in the Irish Open on a number of occasions – to help us get our bearings right.:D
More interested in the short skirts, I’m afraid.
Spot on about the building site!
The full sketch with B of I in the distance and canal in foreground.The half demolished Georgian is on the other side of town.
I do realize that dodgy sketches of buildings demolished in the 1980s places some of the more juvenile members at a disadvantage, which also pleases me.
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October 19, 2008 at 2:01 pm #766530
gunter
ParticipantI should have acknowledged that Phil nailed it first with ctesiphon also in the pack.
On ctesiphon’s:
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October 19, 2008 at 3:15 pm #766531
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October 19, 2008 at 7:25 pm #766532
GrahamH
ParticipantThe surface car parking, hoopy industrial railings and general air of ‘normality’ in this scene of devastation is typical of the nonchalant northside of the late 1980s. The doorcases are characteristic of the second phase of the Gardiners in and around Parnell Square. The trees are annoying me. I’ll make a stab at Dominick Street…
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October 19, 2008 at 7:58 pm #766533
SeamusOG
Participant@gunter wrote:
More interested in the short skirts, I’m afraid.
Excellent news – then perhaps you have Margaret Court or Evonne Goolagong (as she then was) in skirts, stretching for rhe ball, against a Georgian backdrop? 😀 (I’ve been told they also visited, as it was usually the week after Wimbledon)
The full sketch with B of I in the distance and canal in foreground.But how can this be, Gunter? What’s happened to the stretch of Georgian houses along Lower Baggot Street -i.e. IBEC (ca. no. 90) to Fitzwilliam Street. If it was Wilton Place you probably wouldn’t have been able to see the B of I buliding above the Baggot Street rooftops, and surely not to the extent which is depicted?:confused:
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October 19, 2008 at 9:15 pm #766534
gunter
Participant@Seamus O’G wrote:
But how can this be, Gunter? What’s happened to the stretch of Georgian houses along Lower Baggot Street -i.e. IBEC (ca. no. 90) to Fitzwilliam Street. If it was Wilton Place you probably wouldn’t have been able to see the B of I buliding above the Baggot Street rooftops, and surely not to the extent which is depicted?:confused:
Seamus: gunter didn’t invest his sketches with imagination, if it wasn’t there it wasn’t drawn.
I think we’re seeing the top four and a half storeys of the 9 storey B of I block over the four and half storey roof-tops of lower Baggot Street, that would be about right, no? Must go back down when the leaves fall and have a look see.
Graham: On the Georgian, your logic is flawless and the street might even been mentioned in a different context.
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October 19, 2008 at 9:19 pm #766535
ctesiphon
Participant@newgrange wrote:
It’s in Marlborough Street. Usually hidden behind lots of buses.
Spot on! Abbey Street end, west side. A wider view:
And from Archiseek’s own vaults (courtesy of alonso): http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/marlborough_street/dutc.html
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October 19, 2008 at 10:13 pm #766536
alonso
ParticipantA Wispa for the explanation of DUTCo.
c’mon it’s easy…
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October 19, 2008 at 11:24 pm #766537
gunter
ParticipantDublin United Tramway Company?
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October 20, 2008 at 9:07 am #766538
ctesiphon
ParticipantI believe so.
gunter- is your other one Cumberland Street North?
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October 20, 2008 at 9:14 am #766539
Anonymous
Participant@gunter wrote:
I think we’re seeing the top four and a half storeys of the 9 storey B of I block over the four and half storey roof-tops of lower Baggot Street, that would be about right, no? Must go back down when the leaves fall and have a look see.
On first look i thought the sketch was from the other direction and it was fitzwilton house in the background ?
No sure if either stack up though, certainly some artistic license used either way.
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October 20, 2008 at 9:21 am #766540
Anonymous
InactiveFor the record, and even if I am wrong, my original guess was the other building beside Peters photo above (IDA). The traffic island, lamp posts and green space are what I am mainly basing this on.
http://ireland.archiseek.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/wilton_place/ida.html
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October 20, 2008 at 10:25 am #766541
gunter
Participant@Peter Fitz wrote:
No sure if either stack up though, certainly some artistic license used either way.
Let’s get one thing straight, what was drawn was what was there, I will not have gunter’s drafting accuracy impugned. To settle this matter, later today I will go down there with a bloody camera, like I should have done in the first place.
Phil got it straight away! the IDA building on the Fitzwilliam Tennis Club site, OK.
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October 20, 2008 at 10:58 am #766542
Anonymous
Participant@gunter wrote:
Let’s get one thing straight, what was drawn was what was there, I will not have gunter’s drafting accuracy impugned. To settle this matter, later today I will go down there with a bloody camera, like I should have done in the first place.
woops 😮 i’ve no wish to question the drafting accuracy (or skill ]http://www.webeireann.com/archiseek/wilton_terrace.jpg[/IMG]
*quietly slips back out of thread, where he belongs.
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October 20, 2008 at 11:21 am #766543
jdivision
ParticipantLooks like the junction of Ardee Street and Cork Street a few years ago. That building was in terrible condition and the old stone building opposite it, which was since restored, looked terrible
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October 21, 2008 at 11:13 pm #766544
SeamusOG
Participant@Peter Fitz wrote:
woops i’ve no wish to question the drafting accuracy (or skill ) of gunter !!!
Neither do I, at all.
However, the nine-storey BOI building is set quite far back from the road with two 4-5 storey buildings in front of it (as shown in the aerial photo), followed by the houses on Baggot Street.
I think that amount of the BOI building may very well be visible from Leeson Street Bridge, I am, however, sceptical that that was or is the case at the lower level (along the canal) where the picture seems to have been drawn. (Unfortunately I’m currently unable to do my own investigations on this, though I suspect Gunter may not be giving his creative side the credit it deserves).
What we need here is for Pythagoras to sign up to Archiseek, if he hasn’t already done so, and give us his views.:p
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October 22, 2008 at 9:09 am #766545
gunter
Participant@Seamus O’G wrote:
I think that amount of the BOI building may very well be visible from Leeson Street Bridge, I am, however, sceptical that that was or is the case at the lower level (along the canal) where the picture seems to have been drawn.
Your observations have been cordially noted.
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October 26, 2008 at 7:13 pm #766546
gunter
Participant
Disputed sketch from 1980s of Bank of Ireland, Baggot St. from the canal . . . . same view today with completed IDA building and many trees obscuring the view.
. . but from 10m further west, in a gap between trees, behold the Bank of Ireland!Is that OK now, or do people need actual trigonometry?
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October 26, 2008 at 8:19 pm #766547
Anonymous
ParticipantTrigonometry, Trigonometry ! thats good enough for me gunter, wont doubt the accuracy of your sketches again 😉
I had it all wrong anyway, I originally thought it was the NIB under construction in the sketch.
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October 26, 2008 at 9:04 pm #766548
SeamusOG
Participant@Peter Fitz wrote:
thats good enough for me
and me.
It is, however, a great surprise, which is why I queried this in the first place. If there had been any possibility of checking this out personally, I would not have questioned it on the board. My apologies, gunter, if you were put out by the doubts I expressed.
Thank you for taking the time to produce the evidence.
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January 4, 2009 at 3:25 pm #766549
wearnicehats
Participantthis has probably been shown before but I’ve been spending the last day before returning to the sinking ship that is architecture by surfing
put dublin into the search box. I would post some great shots here but I’m not sure it would be ok copyright wise
This is a particular old shot:
apparently the chimney of this place is in the oval development?
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January 6, 2009 at 1:42 pm #766550
jdivision
Participant@wearnicehats wrote:
apparently the chimney of this place is in the oval development?
Tis indeed. Not quite slap bang in the middle of it:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=swnqrrggdprp&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29507681&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&where1=BAllsbridge%2C%20Dublin%20&encType=1 -
January 21, 2009 at 4:46 pm #766551
gunter
ParticipantWhere in Dublin is this?
I’ll give you a clue:
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January 21, 2009 at 4:51 pm #766552
Anonymous
ParticipantGeorge’s Quay ?
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January 21, 2009 at 4:53 pm #766553
GrahamH
ParticipantFaaar too easy! 🙂
That’s a lotta lift doors though…
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January 21, 2009 at 5:30 pm #766554
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February 1, 2009 at 12:47 am #766555
GrahamH
ParticipantDo have a flick through this fascinating personal album. A Dublin of a different world.
http://picasaweb.google.com/ei9hk07/_B1965HoneymoonInDublin#5112179790591929106
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March 12, 2009 at 7:56 am #766556
DavidHarte
ParticipantDoes anyone know who the ‘Leonard’ was relating to Leonard’s Corner?
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March 12, 2009 at 9:26 am #766557
tommyt
Participantpresume one of the pubs there was called that back in the day.
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March 21, 2009 at 5:09 pm #766558
notjim
ParticipantWhere is this mysterious underground doorway?
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March 21, 2009 at 7:12 pm #766559
gunter
ParticipantI hope that’s not a Fritzel photograph!
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March 21, 2009 at 10:52 pm #766560
alonso
Participantooh that’s nasty!!!! 🙂
is it in Trinity?
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March 21, 2009 at 11:25 pm #766561
notjim
ParticipantNo, not Trinity, the College’s mysterious steps already appeared on page 17 of this thread.
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March 21, 2009 at 11:49 pm #766562
alonso
Participanti was thinkin that actually but it was so long ago….
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March 22, 2009 at 12:08 am #766563
GrahamH
ParticipantNot a notion. What sort of door is at the end notjim? The part-rubble stone walls are very interesting…
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March 22, 2009 at 12:14 am #766564
notjim
ParticipantI actually felt guilty Graham when I looked back at your TCD door, you had pointed out that that photo wasn’t from a park, this one is, or, at least, something that is similar to a park. I have no idea what is through the door, though I suspect it might be a secret command centre from which northside will be run when the bridges are blown.
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March 22, 2009 at 8:40 am #766565
igy
ParticipantIs it the Botanic Gardens?
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March 22, 2009 at 9:01 am #766566
notjim
ParticipantOh well done: Botanic Gardens round behind the Lily House, currently closed, undergoing or maybe pending, renovation, picture here:
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March 22, 2009 at 9:03 pm #766567
igy
ParticipantWhat is it though? The structure above the stairwell seemed to be a water pump of some kind, could it be a pumping house for the river water?
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May 3, 2009 at 8:27 pm #766568
gunter
ParticipantOK, this is not going to be easy, and I can’t give clues because I don’t know the answer!
Where could this be?
It was originally suggested to be the south side of Newmarket, with the side street visable on the right being Mill Lane, (the narrow street that runs down to no. 10 Mill Street), but it can’t be, because the shadows tell us that the photograph was taken sometime around midday, so the buildings must face south, or maybe east or west, but certainly not north.
The house on the left is a paired-down ‘Dutch Billy’, so we’re talking not much later than the 1750s at the latest, and it looks like it could be one of a pair with it’s neighbour, out of view to the left.
The white house is a standard 19th century vernacular structure which suggests a slightly more edge of town location. They’re found everwhere from Arbour Hill to the Liberties and places like Harold’s Cross Road, but they were also found closer in, in places such as the back of Hill Street and Wood Lane off Hendrick Street.
I feel that the best clue is going to be that wide set-back beyond the path, that rules out a lot of streets.
Obviously there’ll be bonus points for anyone who can name the kid with the kite.
P.S. being a lantern slide, there’s also a possibility that the picture is backwards!
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May 3, 2009 at 9:32 pm #766569
alonso
Participantwell jaysus if you don’t know how the frack are we supposed to get it? 😉
and the kid is Eamonn Dunphy fresh from kickin a ball o rags around the Gloucester diamond. The chap leaning on the corner is Bill Cullen while that’s Ronnie Drew walking past Eamo.
Rare oul’ times indeed…..
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May 3, 2009 at 10:04 pm #766570
tommyt
ParticipantAhhhh me oul seogossiahs, the dear an’darlin’ chiseller wit his britches up in his oxters and the beeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutifull whoite wash. Is it Church st. and general environs ?? the big gable end on the right makes me thinkof Bow st. for some reason. In any event is it a street that has seen signficant rearrangement in the early photograohic era?
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May 4, 2009 at 3:14 am #766571
el swanko
ParticipantThe slide is backwards and its Marrowbone Lane.
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May 4, 2009 at 10:29 am #766572
ctesiphon
ParticipantIn the words of the great Matador record label, ‘All rights reserved, all wrongs reversed.’
No idea on the location- el swanko seems pretty certain, though.
Time to get your Roques out for the lads, gunter? 😉
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May 4, 2009 at 11:49 am #766573
gunter
Participant@el swanko wrote:
The slide is backwards and its Marrowbone Lane.
I like the idea of Marrowbone Lane, but I can’t get a group to match exactly on the map. Also I’m not convinced that the slide is backwards . . . . if you factor in kite flying and prevailing winds and all of that!
@ctesiphon wrote:
Time to get your Roques out for the lads, gunter? 😉
We might use this great recent 1847 O.S. reprint this time . . . *without the knowledge or consent of the Royal Irish Academy*
@tommyt wrote:
Is it Church st. and general environs ?? the big gable end on the right makes me thinkof Bow st.
Checking them out, but generally pretty narrow streets around there, not much scope for wide paths of set-backs!
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May 4, 2009 at 7:24 pm #766574
goneill
ParticipantThe buildings look like they were built/set back after the footpath was formed, and the block immediately north of the Scavenging Depot also looks like it was set back to accomodate widening. Doesnt explain why the buldings to the left have blank east walls, but perhaps these were accesed from the courtyard on their western side.
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May 5, 2009 at 4:17 pm #766575
ctesiphon
Participant@gunter wrote:
*without the knowledge or consent of the Royal Irish Academy*
*cough*
A closer view of the junction of Robert[ss] Street and Marrowbone Lane (the same spot mentioned by goneill) from Rocque- tellingly, there seems to be a kerb line forward of the building line that doesn’t show up in the 1847 map.
Are we getting warm?
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May 5, 2009 at 5:12 pm #766576
urbanisto
ParticipantNerd alert! 🙂
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May 5, 2009 at 5:22 pm #766577
newgrange
Participant1876 Ordnance Survey.
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May 5, 2009 at 6:29 pm #766578
ctesiphon
ParticipantCuriouser and curiouser…
On seing that 1876 image, my heart sank a bit initially, as the footprint of the end house seems to break the building line as in the Rocque, but the white house in the image above is flush- and presumably it pre-dates 1876. But looking more closely, it seems that the hatched area – indicating the building footprint – is flush with the building line, whilst the ‘breakfront’ seems to be a shadow of the previous building.
Drifting towards consensus can be dangerous, but I’m starting to believe we might be onto something.
@StephenC wrote:
Nerd alert! 🙂
You’re just jealous, admit it! 🙂
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May 5, 2009 at 6:34 pm #766579
gunter
ParticipantStill can’t get any site on Marrowbone Lane to work, I think there are buildings on that Robert Street corner that don’t match!
I thought I had it earlier with this site on present day Benburb Street, with the H. Mathew’s Pub being the structure in the distance, and the laneway being Hendrick Lane.
It’s a south facing terrace and Benburb St. (Barrack St./Tighe St.) was a comparatively wide street for the traffic it supported and the location of the returns on the probable ‘Billys’ equate with the door locations perfectly. Surviving houses are all three storey, remodelled or rebuilt Billys, and the two storey vernacular is just around the corner from a little cluster of similar houses at Hendrick Place, but the pitch on the pub roof is a couple of degrees too low and the chimney stacks don’t match.
I even had it figured that it must be Sunday morning and the pedestrian rush up the lane was to church service at the local Methodist Church on Blackhall Place.
Have to start again!
@StephenC wrote:
Nerd alert!
:confused:
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May 5, 2009 at 6:38 pm #766580
ctesiphon
ParticipantI thought it would be handy to put them both here again.
gunter- have you given up on the Benburb Hypothesis? If not, how would you explain the advanced kerb line? Time to dig out Rocque again? I only bought the book today- how’s this for a return on my investment!
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May 5, 2009 at 10:12 pm #766581
gunter
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
Re: Marrowbone Lane . . . . I’m starting to believe we might be onto something.
ctesiphon, I was only half joking about the prevailing winds! I really don’t see the reverse image working. It would be a freakish day in Dublin that you’d get a kite to fly towards the south-west, would it not?
@ctesiphon wrote:
gunter- have you given up on the Benburb Hypothesis? If not, how would you explain the advanced kerb line?
The advanced kerb line is hard to explain, particularly since there’s no sign of basements, unless other houses in the terrace, out of view, had basement and front ‘areas’, or unless it was a very wide street or square, which I imagine is how Newmarket came to be suggested in the first place.
Because of the roof pitch and particularly the non-matching chimney, I think we have to give up on that the Benburb St./Hendrick Lane location, (even though there’s even a tiny old rooflight corresponding to the little dormer in the roof valley).
Anyway the shampoo shine on the kid’d hair suggests the southside rather than the northside 😉
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May 14, 2009 at 9:26 pm #766582
magwea
ParticipantBreaking the rules a little, I’m afraid, can anyone name the architect of this building. Had a look online and couldn’t find any information. I can post an untrimmed version of the image and the address, but that wouldn’t be in the spirit of the thread. So any ideas?
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May 14, 2009 at 9:35 pm #766583
magwea
ParticipantAnd just for fun:
A
B
C
D
E
F
G
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May 14, 2009 at 9:42 pm #766584
DOC
ParticipantA Peter Murray
B Phibsboro Shopping Centre
C That brickwork is really familiar!
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May 14, 2009 at 9:57 pm #766585
magwea
ParticipantThat was fast, Damn i thought B would have people guessing longer. Absolutely correct Phibsoro shopping center.
Not to sure about your answer for A. Is Peter Murray the architect for the first image i put up or for the second (my A).
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May 14, 2009 at 10:09 pm #766586
Rusty Cogs
ParticipantIs A Busaras ?
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May 14, 2009 at 10:16 pm #766587
magwea
ParticipantRusty Cogs: yeah you got it. Those bollards are pretty distinguished, alright
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May 14, 2009 at 10:30 pm #766588
Rusty Cogs
ParticipantAh that guy with the bag is always there 😉
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May 14, 2009 at 10:44 pm #766589
notjim
ParticipantC is on Western Way; it is a fun and mysterious sight.
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May 14, 2009 at 10:45 pm #766590
notjim
Participantand G is Mountjoy prison, that’s the gatehouse.
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May 14, 2009 at 10:51 pm #766591
magwea
ParticipantDamn, I made these too easy. All correct notjim.
Although, D. E. and F. still need solving.
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May 14, 2009 at 11:22 pm #766592
ctesiphon
ParticipantIs the first (unlettered) one Fitzwilliam Tennis Club? In which case it’s Sam Stephenson, if I remember correctly.
D is on Meeting House Square, I think- ODT’s School of Photography?
The path in E looks like Lutyens’s War Memorial at Islandbridge, though I can’t place the bellcote.
No idea on F. (I knew A and C, though!)
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May 14, 2009 at 11:31 pm #766593
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterIs E the little chapel in the grounds of St. Mary’s Hospital in the Phoenix Park
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May 14, 2009 at 11:37 pm #766594
magwea
ParticipantVery good. D: School of Photography taken from the first floor, with the wall of Charlies III framed.
The other two not so good. No War memorial and no tennis club pictured. Guess again.
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May 14, 2009 at 11:38 pm #766595
magwea
ParticipantNot St. Mary’s Hospital. No. But getting closer.
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May 15, 2009 at 9:12 am #766596
ctesiphon
ParticipantA colleague who is too modest to reply himself has suggested that E is the chapel in Grangegorman. Seems like a strong candidate to me.
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May 15, 2009 at 7:06 pm #766597
magwea
ParticipantYou got it, or at least your colleague did. Then again all the glory goes to the person who posts the right answer first.
A quick shot looking the other way, the bell tower gives it away pretty quick:
And what is left of the chapel:
The first image and F still need answering. Although, looking at it now i think F is outside of the canal boundary so technically not allowed.
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May 15, 2009 at 7:25 pm #766598
magwea
ParticipantThis is the last of them so. Already ran out of images. One of these is a bit unfair, give it a go.
A
B
C
D
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May 15, 2009 at 7:32 pm #766599
ctesiphon
ParticipantD is the Dental Hospital in TCD.
A looks like Mountjoy Women’s Prison, but that’s a guess.
Is C also in Trinity? Looks very familiar.
B- don’t know. Docklands? Nice bit of yellow brick. Or is it red? And what type of pointing is it? Hmmm… 😉
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May 16, 2009 at 9:28 pm #766600
magwea
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
D is the Dental Hospital in TCD.
A looks like Mountjoy Women’s Prison, but that’s a guess.
Is C also in Trinity? Looks very familiar.
B- don’t know. Docklands? Nice bit of yellow brick. Or is it red? And what type of pointing is it? Hmmm… 😉
They were answered quickly. And ctesiphon is on the ball again. D and C are sound, both in Trinity alright: dentist Hospital and … -your going to have to be more specific with C to get full marks I’m afraid.
B and D are unfortunately a double no, although on the right track.
By the by here is the full uncropped first image i posted for which I’m still looking for information on.
Had a quick google for Peter Murray as to DOC’s reply, seems like there are two architecture Murrays one who is the curator at the Crawford and another who is the founder of Blueprint magazine. Is this my man? Anyone know any more details about the building, or who could point me the right direction?
Another another puzzler just to keep this thread on target, where is this delightful sculpture to be found:
Bears an uncanny resemblance to starving cows in the Sahara i find.
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May 16, 2009 at 10:50 pm #766601
ctesiphon
ParticipantThe two almost parallel ranges are throwing me slightly on the other Trinity one- is it beside Aras An Phiarsaigh on Pearse Street / behind Botany Bay? Then again, the white bit at the end looks like the Engineering building at the Westland Row end… (notjim- help!)
I think the cow is in that square beside the Jervis Centre- drawing a blank on the name just now (brain gone to mush from too much Eurovision- poor Portugal *sob*).
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May 16, 2009 at 11:00 pm #766602
ctesiphon
ParticipantScratch that- the other TCD one is the back of Lincoln Place.
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May 17, 2009 at 1:53 pm #766603
magwea
ParticipantYeah, it’s the sculpture by the jervis centre. Anyone know what the story is with the cow, was the square a commons at sometime? Would look great on an over sized marble plinth, instead of lying in the dirt like it is now.
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May 17, 2009 at 3:31 pm #766604
GregF
ParticipantWhy is it that the bovine sculpture has no horns?
Is the sculptor trying to say something?
Or is it because that horns might be a danger to the public, should a drunken Joe Soap or a kid become impaled on it?
There is a fine statue of a Bull on Wall Street, horns and all.
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May 19, 2009 at 9:19 am #766605
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May 19, 2009 at 7:19 pm #766606
magwea
ParticipantSorry i did miss your post earlier ctesiphon. Your correct of course: Talbot Street pub and Lincoln Place.
One more. This one is just outside of the canal boundary but not by much.
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May 27, 2009 at 10:51 pm #766607
Smithfield Resi
Participant -
May 27, 2009 at 11:33 pm #766608
GrahamH
ParticipantManfield Chambers, O’Connell Street Lower.
The Trivision sign has been removed (as well as the original elegant metal window/s).
The sign has probably morphed into a JCDecaux somewhere along the line, whilst the windows are in landfill, alas.
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May 28, 2009 at 7:41 am #766609
Smithfield Resi
ParticipantManfield Chambers, O’Connell Street Lower.
The Trivision sign has been removed (as well as the original elegant metal window/s).
The sign has probably morphed into a JCDecaux somewhere along the line, whilst the windows are in landfill, alas.
Spot on Graham;
I thought the sign had ‘migrated’ to Batchelors Walk, but after a bit of thinking and digging, I realise that this had been up for a while: However the election produces the irony of the current Lord Mayor advertising her campaign on an illegal erected trivision sign. They didn’t even attempt to apply for planning permission for this sign.
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May 30, 2009 at 8:52 pm #766610
igy
Participant@magwea wrote:
Sorry i did miss your post earlier ctesiphon. Your correct of course: Talbot Street pub and Lincoln Place.
One more. This one is just outside of the canal boundary but not by much.
Not by much indeed!
It’s in the Glasnevin Cemetery extension, it’s the back of a war memorial at the far East of the site, a few metres behind where the pic was taken is Glasnevin Junction (I think?) on the rail line. -
May 31, 2009 at 9:09 pm #766611
GrahamH
ParticipantThe new Coke Dublin ad campaign is clever. Keeps me suitably occupied at the bus stop every morning. The buildings themselves are very accurately depicted in spite of the riotous licence taken with their positioning.
Copper has been used to roof Connolly and Christchurch, but we’ll let em away with it…
Good detailing, right down to Sam’s later incongruous railings around the Central Bank.
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June 1, 2009 at 8:11 pm #766612
magwea
Participant@igy wrote:
It’s in the Glasnevin Cemetery extension, it’s the back of a war memorial at the far East of the site
Spot on igy. I as worried no one would get it.
A view from the front for those unfamiliar:
@igy wrote:
a few metres behind where the pic was taken is Glasnevin Junction (I think?) on the rail line.
If this is what you mean, yes. You need to be quick to be able to see it from the DART. Photo was taken from he Royal Canal. I was completely unfamiliar with the sculpture or that part of Glasnevin cemetery. The cemetery is very well hidden. I wonder who lives in that blue container.
GrahamH that ad is neat alright.
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June 2, 2009 at 1:13 pm #766613
Smithfield Resi
ParticipantI love that Coke ad – especially as I used to work as a graphic designer using the legendary DPaint, the 16 colour drawing program used.
I’d love to know who did this piece of work as I can well imagine a couple of the DPaint geniuses I used to work with having the skill to do this.
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June 2, 2009 at 3:34 pm #766614
urbanisto
ParticipantI have never seen that memorial. And here I was thinking I’d seen it all.
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June 2, 2009 at 9:25 pm #766615
rashers
Participant@Smithfield Resi wrote:
I love that Coke ad – especially as I used to work as a graphic designer using the legendary DPaint, the 16 colour drawing program used.
Amiga A500 memories. Thank you.:)
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June 16, 2009 at 8:50 am #766616
gunter
Participant
Crest is still there
. . . . but the arch may be goneBonus points for dates!
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June 16, 2009 at 9:45 am #766617
missarchi
Participantthere is another shape in the coke ad and its the biggest?
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June 16, 2009 at 10:28 am #766618
Anonymous
InactiveLeeson Street Bridge, 1900. Victoria’s, not secrets, visit to Dublin for the Empire Exhibition in what is now Herbert Park.
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June 16, 2009 at 10:42 am #766619
gunter
Participant@lunasa wrote:
Leeson Street Bridge, 1900. Victoria’s, not secrets, visit to Dublin for the Empire Exhibition in what is now Herbert Park.
The arch is Leeson St. Bridge, but my information is a visit of Edward VII, possibly 1907? not Vic.
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June 16, 2009 at 5:33 pm #766620
lauder
ParticipantRoyal Arms is on Royal Victoria Eye & Ear Hospital.
What is the story with the Arch? When was it removed and to where?
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June 16, 2009 at 9:07 pm #766621
gunter
Participant@lauder wrote:
Royal Arms is on Royal Victoria Eye & Ear Hospital.
Spot on, lauder . . . the ‘Eye & Ear’ it is, on Adelaide Road. The date seems to be 1897.
@Lauder wrote:
What is the story with the Arch? When was it removed and to where?
I think it was just a temporary structure, pure and simple, put up just for the royal visit!
Wasn’t there a long renaissance tradition of doing this kind of thing?
I recall several paintings in the National Gallery of squares in renaissance Rome filled with elaborate baroque structures, erected for various weddings or festivals etc.
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June 16, 2009 at 11:42 pm #766622
magwea
ParticipantThe illustrator behind the coke ads is called Eboy. His blog has high resolution images of the poster as well as the Cork, Belfast, Galway versions. Worth checking out if you like the ad.
Of course there is always the Coke bebo page for people who want to play the game. Which is like this thread on skittles.
Enough shilling for coke for one day i think.
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July 3, 2009 at 9:13 am #766623
missarchi
Participant -
July 9, 2009 at 8:56 pm #766624
GrahamH
ParticipantAh a voiceover artist who can speak correctly – how refreshing.
Anyone care to guess where this curious little chappie resides?
He’s in the city centre, and most unusually, the only animal carving on the entire dressed stone building.
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November 19, 2009 at 5:47 pm #766625
Global Citizen
ParticipantThe building on O’Connell bridge where D’Olier St meets Westmoreland St. The name of it escapes me.
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November 19, 2009 at 6:02 pm #766626
Global Citizen
ParticipantHere’s a few more.
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November 19, 2009 at 7:06 pm #766627
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterSome obvious ones there which i’ll leave but no1 is the dublin yeast company on college street?
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November 19, 2009 at 8:29 pm #766628
urbanisto
ParticipantCasino Marino lion
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November 19, 2009 at 8:43 pm #766629
Global Citizen
Participant@StephenC wrote:
Casino Marino lion
Nope, they’re all between the canals.
Paul is right about the first one.
I thought it would be the toughest. I’m impressed !
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November 19, 2009 at 10:05 pm #766630
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterGlobal as a kid i was entralled by the Robert Ballagh book of photos of Dublin – this was in it
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November 20, 2009 at 2:03 am #766631
Frank Taylor
Participant4th picture is Dunnes HQ in Upper Stephen Street
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November 20, 2009 at 7:28 am #766632
photopol
ParticipantNelson’s Pillar
Not sure if this is the appropriate thread, but I don’t know how to open a new one.
Just wondered if people might be interested in Nelson’s progress (downfall) in 1966.
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November 20, 2009 at 8:19 am #766633
goneill
ParticipantLion at No 86 St Stephen’s Green (in lead)?
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November 20, 2009 at 11:29 am #766634
Global Citizen
Participant@Frank Taylor wrote:
4th picture is Dunnes HQ in Upper Stephen Street
Yep, or the old Dunlop factory………..
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November 20, 2009 at 1:10 pm #766635
photopol
ParticipantHope I’m doing this right. If not please tell me.
Four shots, within the canals, in Dublin below for guessing. I have labeled them V-Z to avoid confusion with any other current images.
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November 20, 2009 at 1:41 pm #766636
gunter
ParticipantHold on a minute there photopol, we don’t know what these are yet
I know the Victorian brick gable, but I can’t think of the name of the building, . . . . or where it is
doesn’t count as a answer I don’t suppose :confused:
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November 20, 2009 at 2:04 pm #766637
GrahamH
ParticipantThe latter piece of tat is from the larger piece of tat on Harcourt Street – the new infill building. Shocking stuff.
The lead lion is from Newman House alright, from which Richard Whaley’s son famously jumped for a bet onto the roof of a carriage out on the road. Luckily for him, if not for his contemporaries, he lived to tell the tale.
The brick gable is extremely annoying.
The limestone pediment is clearly a flourish atop a Victorian commercial building of some kind, with a large limestone chimney stack to the rear – Lower Grafton Street or somesuch.
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November 20, 2009 at 2:09 pm #766638
GrahamH
ParticipantOh, and sorry Global, the little urchin chappie isn’t on the O’Callaghan’s Chance/ICS building at O’Connell Bridge. Good guess though 🙂
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November 20, 2009 at 2:20 pm #766639
photopol
ParticipantSorry Gunter. Ignore me until they’re sorted out.
Apologies.
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November 20, 2009 at 3:06 pm #766640
gunter
Participant. . . . we just have to follow proper proceedures photopoll, or the whole system breaks down 😉
having said that, is the last one [Z] the Gilbert Library on pearse St. ?
Is this one Walton’s music store on South Great Georges St.?
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November 20, 2009 at 3:31 pm #766641
photopol
ParticipantGunter
[Z] is the Gilbert, well done.
I’m a great one for procedures myself. Alternative is anarchy.
How do I know when a new set can be started? I guess I was a bit overenthusiastic, trying to figure out the mechanics of the site and flying through past posts checking what had already been covered.
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November 20, 2009 at 3:41 pm #766642
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterthe gable is bugging the hell out of me
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November 20, 2009 at 7:48 pm #766643
jdivision
ParticipantCarvills on Camden Street?? It’s a guess but like the others I’m being bugged by it cos I know it.
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November 20, 2009 at 7:56 pm #766644
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterthat crossed my mind too
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November 20, 2009 at 8:02 pm #766645
foremanjoe
ParticipantI don’t know where it is at all, but that limestone pediment looks like it’s on top of a gatepost or a pillar rather than a building.
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November 20, 2009 at 8:44 pm #766646
Paul Clerkin
Keymasteri figured it was dormer type windows
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November 20, 2009 at 9:48 pm #766647
GrahamH
ParticipantA little too grand for Carvill’s — but not the former Mercer Hospital 🙂
Those cut stone power-stacks always give the game away.Spot on gunter with Walton’s! One of those obscure ones that blurs into myriad others of its type.
photopol you may initiate proceedings! The freaky head is up at the former City Basin anyway…
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November 20, 2009 at 11:24 pm #766648
photopol
ParticipantGrahamH
Full marks for the freaky head [V]. That’s two down. I’ll have to sharpen up my act next time round…
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November 20, 2009 at 11:26 pm #766649
photopol
ParticipantGrahamH
Technically the former Harbour, but I know what you mean.
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November 21, 2009 at 3:01 pm #766650
photopol
ParticipantI know you had these two ladies from George’s Church in Hardwicke Place on earlier. Does anyone know who they are or where I can find out? Thanks.
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November 21, 2009 at 4:53 pm #766651
Global Citizen
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
The latter piece of tat is from the larger piece of tat on Harcourt Street – the new infill building. Shocking stuff.
Well done Graham.
I only saw it for the first time last Saturday when I took these photos and its presence in such a beautiful street fills me with a mixture of anger and disappointment. Its a piece of vandalism that wouldn’t be allowed in the suburbs of Calcutta. Yet our planners deem it appropriate in an overtly visible location in the georgian core of Dublin. How the hell………? I’m straying a bit off topic here. But looking at the photo below, most people will understand why.
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November 21, 2009 at 4:58 pm #766652
Global Citizen
Participant@goneill wrote:
Lion at No 86 St Stephen’s Green (in lead)?
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November 21, 2009 at 5:06 pm #766653
Global Citizen
Participantgunter wrote:Good God Gunter 🙂
Sorry………..
I love a little alliteration:oWaltons – a candidate to the shopfront thread perhaps ?
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November 21, 2009 at 5:16 pm #766654
Global Citizen
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
The limestone pediment is clearly a flourish atop a Victorian commercial building of some kind, with a large limestone chimney stack to the rear – Lower Grafton Street or somesuch.
Not quit commercial and not quite right with the location (almost):rolleyes: but I have to allow it.
Well done again Graham.This is actually one of my favourite buildings in Dublin.
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November 21, 2009 at 5:42 pm #766655
Global Citizen
Participant@photopol wrote:
Gunter
I’m a great one for procedures myself. Alternative is anarchy.How do I know when a new set can be started? I guess I was a bit overenthusiastic, trying to figure out the mechanics of the site and flying through past posts checking what had already been covered.
😮The floor is all yours now Photopol.:)
I’d hate to see an outbreak of anarchy here:eek:
And welcome to the forum.Oh by the way, I reckon your second image is the top of the onion tower in The Liberties.
AKA St Patricks Tower. A very idiosyncratic building. I love it. There is something endearingly questionable about Dublin’s love of chimneys. Nobody wants Poolbeg knocked down. Smithfield is (or was) a viewing platform. And this onion tower is one of the best loved structures in the city.I hope I’m right now:confused:
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November 21, 2009 at 9:03 pm #766656
photopol
ParticipantGlobal Citizen
The tat is absolutely incredible. I couldn’t believe it when I saw the photo. I remember Hume St. and Green Properties in the late 60s. How did this happen? Where are the students?
Are we talking brown envelope or pig ignorance here?
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November 21, 2009 at 9:06 pm #766657
photopol
ParticipantGlobal Citizen
I’m not familiar with the term onion tower. Can you specify?
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November 21, 2009 at 9:18 pm #766658
photopol
ParticipantGlobal Citizen
Thanks for the welcome. This seems a great forum. I’m diving in the shallow end with the know your Dublin which is fascinating. I have lived all my life in Dublin. Schooling and professional career in centre city. But, now that I am retired, I am only starting to notice my surroundings. Which, I see, are disappearing faster than I can notice them. Or which I notice are disappearing faster than I can see them. Or whatever.
I have been following the Liberties regeneration, as one branch of my folks are from the Mount Brown/Fountain end of James’s St. I have also been following Theresa’s Gardens, due to the location of another branch, and Fatima and Dolphin House for yet another branch. All very depressing. Repeated breach of faith with the residents and abuse of power and patronising of the residents. Must have broken the hearts of the few officials who cared. End of rant.
Anyway, look forward to participating in this great forum.
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November 22, 2009 at 1:05 pm #766659
Global Citizen
Participant@photopol wrote:
Global Citizen
I’m not familiar with the term onion tower. Can you specify?
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November 22, 2009 at 5:39 pm #766660
photopol
ParticipantGlobal Citizen bang on for [X]. It’s the sock windmill
For the record, here are the contexts:
Freaky Face [V] above a doorway on the West side of James’s HarbourTo the best of my recollection, it’s just to the right of where I was standing when I took this.
Bishop weathervane [X] on top of the sock windmill:
City crest [Z] over the Gilbert library in Pearse St. This crest is unique to this location.
A quick inspection of the latin motto will show you why.
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November 23, 2009 at 12:35 am #766661
Andrew Duffy
Participant@Global Citizen wrote:
Well done Graham.
I only saw it for the first time last Saturday when I took these photos and its presence in such a beautiful street fills me with a mixture of anger and disappointment. Its a piece of vandalism that wouldn’t be allowed in the suburbs of Calcutta. Yet our planners deem it appropriate in an overtly visible location in the georgian core of Dublin. How the hell………? I’m straying a bit off topic here. But looking at the photo below, most people will understand why.
Anyway – A rant for another thread perhaps.You know Harcourt Street is predominantly pastiche and facade retentions, yes?
Edit – that infill is still rubbish regardless.
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November 23, 2009 at 11:54 am #766662
Global Citizen
Participant@Andrew Duffy wrote:
You know Harcourt Street is predominantly pastiche and facade retentions, yes?
.Yes, and in this case a pastiche would have been far more agreeable than the resulting disaster.
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November 23, 2009 at 11:28 pm #766663
GrahamH
Participantphotopol, those are just marvellous photographs you have on your website. You’ve a great eye. Well worth a look everyone! http://www.photopol.com/gallery/fgallery.html
So, we have the crown yet to be identified. The white surround is baffling.
We also have this chappie in limbo, who is at human height on the street.
And if I might add another from Charles W. Cushman, dated to June 1961. Any ideas as to its whereabouts? Not a word photopol! 😉
The corner building is oddly like a miniature version of Thomas Read’s rounding the Cork Hill and Parliament Street junction.
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November 24, 2009 at 1:45 am #766664
photopol
ParticipantGrahamH
Thanks for the compliment re the photos.
I think I am (unintentionally) misleading people on the crown. That is not meant to be a white surround. It was originally meant to be a transparent background. It should have been a png rather than a jpeg. I confined the item to a circle just to make it more difficult. But by way of reparation I will give a full rectangle which will give you an enormous clue. But it is still within the canals.
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November 24, 2009 at 11:29 am #766665
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThe crown is on the old power supply unit on the transition between Fenian Street and Grand Canal Street. I looked at it a few days ago, but needed to see the surrounding writing to recognise it.
Is the Elvery’s building on Aungier Street? It’s annoyingly familiar.
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November 24, 2009 at 11:35 am #766666
goneill
ParticipantJohn W Elvery + Co waterproofers and sports outfitters at 65/66 Dawson Street/corner Nassau Street?
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November 24, 2009 at 11:45 am #766667
Andrew Duffy
Participant@goneill wrote:
John W Elvery + Co waterproofers and sports outfitters at 65/66 Dawson Street/corner Nassau Street?
If it is, it was demolished by Norwich Union a short period later:
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=swqf29ggbndd&scene=29506597&lvl=2&sty=b
The corner is addressed the same way.
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November 24, 2009 at 11:46 am #766668
photopol
Participant@Andrew Duffy wrote:
The crown is on the old power supply unit on the transition between Fenian Street and Grand Canal Street. I looked at it a few days ago, but needed to see the surrounding writing to recognise it.
Bang on Andrew. On the corner of Upr. Erne St. and Hogan Place.
That’s the Stork shop on the corner of Holles St. on the other side of the road.I’m bust. Over to the next contributor. Thanks for the fun.:D
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November 24, 2009 at 1:30 pm #766669
Global Citizen
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
Anyone care to guess where this curious little chappie resides?
He’s in the city centre, and most unusually, the only animal carving on the entire dressed stone building.
This one is driving me nuts.
I still think its in the Lower O’Connoll St / Westmoreland St area.
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November 24, 2009 at 2:39 pm #766670
gunter
ParticipantGranite, Portland stone and sandstone in one building . . . . . is it the building on the corner of Dame St. and Fownes St.?
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November 24, 2009 at 3:55 pm #766671
Anonymous
Inactive@photopol wrote:
GrahamH
I think I am (unintentionally) misleading people on the crown. That is not meant to be a white surround……………….
Interesting local history in that nameplate. Without wishing to be pedantic, it’s not a crown, it is a coronet, that of an earl, probably Pembroke. An earl’s coronet has eight strawberry leaves (four visible) and eight silver balls (or pearls) around the rim (five visible).
FWIW one of the Pembrokes was known as the “Architect Earl” (early 1700’s) because he was responsible for the building of Westminster Bridge.
KB2
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November 24, 2009 at 5:36 pm #766672
photopol
Participant@KerryBog2 wrote:
Without wishing to be pedantic, it’s not a crown, it is a coronet, that of an earl, probably Pembroke.
Take your point and it does stitch it in historically. I was using the term loosely without any expertise.
From a colonial point of view it is a neat subset. 🙂
Is trilocation Kerry, Dublin, Europe, or, Kerry, Dublin, USA, or, Parish, Kerry, Dublin? Just wondering. Following up my family history at the moment and getting very local in the process. My Kerry connection is Caherboshinna (between Ventry and Dingle).
An nà is annamh is iontach. The rare thing is a wonder to behold.
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November 24, 2009 at 5:57 pm #766673
Anonymous
Inactive@photopol wrote:
Is trilocation Kerry, Dublin, Europe, or, Kerry, Dublin, USA, or, Parish, Kerry, Dublin? Just wondering.
.It started as Dublin, Kerry and US, then mutated to Dublin, Kerry and wherever I find myself on a work project. I’m a blow-in Kerryman, no Kerry blood on the male side back to 1470. Good luck with the genealogy, it’s a drug.
Rs,
K.
PS Loved your old photos. The Vampires in the fly-past; Ballybrack/Killiney; often went into Decco’s Cave at Whiterock – there is another one up the cliff at the Ramparts. -
November 24, 2009 at 6:48 pm #766674
photopol
ParticipantKerryBog2
Thanks.
There’s an actual Vampire hanging out of the ceiling in the museum in Collins Barracks. When I saw it I said to the guy, that’s a Vampire. And then I saw the label, this is a Vampire. A bit embarrassed but thrilled nonetheless.
Decco’s has been opened up to potholers as far as I can make out. Tread carefully, it’s a mobile phone dead area, no surprise. Not familiar with the ramparts version. Where is that? I know the cave/tunnel came out somewhere up Killiney Hill.
Ballybrack/Killiney is a fabulous area for history. I stumbled into it by accident (basically, living there).
From an architectural/archeological/genealogical point of view this should be of interest.
Having a ball.
P
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November 24, 2009 at 6:55 pm #766675
photopol
ParticipantKerryBog2
We’re not talking Fexco here are we?
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November 24, 2009 at 9:54 pm #766676
GrahamH
Participant@goneill wrote:
John W Elvery + Co waterproofers and sports outfitters at 65/66 Dawson Street/corner Nassau Street?
Spot on goneill! The replacement building (which coincidentally has also featured on this thread) employed a chamfered corner too. How this part of Nassau Street and Dawson Street has changed…
gunter, correct on the Fownes Street corner building: the former Crown Life offices by Thomas Newenham Deane. I should have trusted my initial judgement and left that darn sandstone course out!
A curious, idiosyncratic little chap – the only carved animal on the entire building.
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November 24, 2009 at 10:10 pm #766677
gunter
Participantbut he’s there for a purpose . . . . . to kick out the flat banded stonework on the left to form a slightly projected drip detail to the continuous window cill on the right
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November 25, 2009 at 2:30 pm #766678
Anonymous
Inactive@photopol wrote:
KerryBog2
Decco’s has been opened up to potholers ……….. I know the cave/tunnel came out somewhere up Killiney Hill. ………Not familiar with the ramparts version. Where is that?………..From an architectural/archeological/genealogical point of view this should be of interest.
P
Photopol,
Thanks for the link to that Martello Tower site – we had a discussion here on them a year or so ago. I have watched the renovation of Tower No 7 when passing on Killiney Hill Road. V.nice to see the photos. The cannon mounting is very interesting, an amalgamation of the slide of a carronade with the breeching of a long gun. I would prefer to see covers on the trunnions before I would fire it shotted! Looks smaller than the usual 26 pounder.As a kid I lived out that way and always understood that the Whiterock cave, Decco’s , is an old lead & silver mine dating to the mid 1700’s. Decco was an old sailor who lived in it for years, back around 1900. It does not go in very far, about 40 feet or so is my memory, and certainly not onto K Hill; sometimes we could go no further than 15 feet as it was silted up by sand/storm debris. A spring runs through it, so that clears it, often leaving a bank on one side and a long, deep pool on the left as you enter. Caving gear necessary!
There were other mines in Dalkey and also a “gold rush†in the 1830’s. I’ve always associated the latter with the cave/tunnel at Loreto Convent which is not very long though as kids we believed it went out to Dalkey Island. The Ramparts is what locals call the Vico Gentlemens’ Bathing Place.
Rs
K
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November 25, 2009 at 3:13 pm #766679
photopol
Participant@KerryBog2 wrote:
Decco’s … does not go in very far, about 40 feet or so is my memory, and certainly not onto K Hill; sometimes we could go no further than 15 feet as it was silted up by sand/storm debris. A spring runs through it, so that clears it, often leaving a bank on one side and a long, deep pool on the left as you enter.
Assume you have seen these blog entries. Decco 1 Decco 2
I never had caving gear but on a recent revisit I took some photos. You have to belly your way through a narrow tunnel to get to the chamber where the pool is now on the right. I don’t know how much further back it really goes.Apparently Beckett has Molloy living there at some stage.
My Ballybrack/Killiney stuff is gathered here.
I suppose we are straying a bit too far outside the canals for this thread 🙂
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February 16, 2011 at 12:01 am #766681
gunter
ParticipantRoundy windows.
Usual rules apply.
One is outside the canal rings, but not by much.
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February 16, 2011 at 12:43 am #766682
GrahamH
ParticipantSome exemplar conservation pointing there!
Think I have most of ’em. A shame the provisional plastic conceals the beauty of C and its neighbours :clap:
H is bugging the hell out of me. Not Iveagh Markets, not Fruit Markets, not Iveagh Play House, not any of the major commercial Victorians. The only clue is poor quality brickwork…
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February 16, 2011 at 1:09 am #766683
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterhmmm struggling over a,b,c, and h – though i have a suspicion on b now
wondering is h some sort of utility building – toilet or esb block
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February 16, 2011 at 3:39 am #766684
Morlan
ParticipantA few more..
a.
b.
c.
d.
e.
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February 16, 2011 at 9:47 am #766685
GrahamH
ParticipantFinally got gunter’s H. A Walk to work always delivers results! A wonderfully quirky keystone that bends into the façade.
Morlan’s D is such a beautiful scene. Can’t place it though – thinking the side of a Dame Street building…
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February 16, 2011 at 11:31 am #766686
gunter
Participantso this time we’re just going to give ourselves full marks for paper 1 and jump straight to paper 2
. . . . . without answering any of the actual questions.O _ K a y
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February 17, 2011 at 5:48 am #766687
Morlan
ParticipantNo harm having two at a time. It’s been done before.
Not Dame, Graham.
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February 17, 2011 at 3:36 pm #766688
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterGunter
E – Law Society, Blackhall Place
Morlan
A – is that down the back of Thomas Street, or Cornmarket, I just cannot place it
b- church street?
d- just bugging me bad
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February 18, 2011 at 12:02 am #766689
gunter
ParticipantThat would be correct Paul, the Law Society building, Blackhall Place, former Blue-Coat school
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February 18, 2011 at 2:14 pm #766690
Paul Clerkin
KeymasterIs Gunter B – the former Moravian Church on Kevin Street
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February 18, 2011 at 4:10 pm #766691
GrahamH
ParticipantNot sure it is Paul.
gunter’s D is a rooftop cupola of one of the wings of Blackhall Place. H is James’s Street Post Office. C is the wonderfully severe rear elevation of the Pro-Cathedral.
Morlan’s A is Watkins Brewery on Ardee Street/’St. Luke’s Avenue’. C looks like South Richmond Street, but it’s not. Tsk. Nearly sure D is a Temple Bar street. Has to be!
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February 18, 2011 at 7:28 pm #766692
Morlan
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
A is Watkins Brewery on Ardee Street/’St. Luke’s Avenue’.
“The Guinness Brewery was the once extensive Watkins, Jameson, Pim & Company Brewery on Ardee Street. The entire complex, including the 19th c Brewers’ house and stone warehouse which are protected structures, stand awaiting the planning decision of the City Council regarding their future.” Hmm..
@GrahamH wrote:
D is a Temple Bar street. Has to be!
Sure is, Graham. It’s beside Tambuli on Cope Street. A lovely capture by infomatique:
@GrahamH wrote:
C looks like South Richmond Street, but it’s not. Tsk. Nearly sure
It’s on the North Side. There’s another yellow brick to the left and a red brick to the right.
@Paul Clerkin wrote:
b- church street?
Not Church Street, Paul. Here’s a crop of the church in the reflection:
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February 24, 2011 at 7:19 pm #766680
Paul Clerkin
Keymasterhmmmmmm i know i know a few but damned if i can isolate them from the noise clutter in my head
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February 27, 2011 at 9:22 pm #766693
SeamusOG
ParticipantWell, Gunter’s G has to be somewhere in the Crumlin-ish area. I think I’ve seen it, but I can’t place it, and am too far removed to get on the bike.
Morlan’s B, for some reason, reminds me of something I’ve seen near Stamer Street, off the SCR. Or Synge Street. That vicinity, in any case.
Probably wrong, though.
Thanks to both Gunter and Morlan for the pictures.
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February 27, 2011 at 9:27 pm #766694
SeamusOG
ParticipantThough that crop in Morlan’s most recent post reminds me of the church in Arbour Hill. But how can that be reflected in the window of a house?
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February 28, 2011 at 9:55 am #766695
Morlan
Participant@SeamusOG wrote:
Though that crop in Morlan’s most recent post reminds me of the church in Arbour Hill. But how can that be reflected in the window of a house?
You’re in the rightish area anyway.
Church of The Holy Family, Aughrim St. (St. Joseph’s Rd. above)
The foundation stone of the church was laid by Cardinal Cullen in April 1874 and the first Mass was celebrated on the 8th December 1876. At the time it was a Chapel of Ease to St. Paul’s, Arran Quay. On The 18th May 1893, Aughrim Street was constituted a parish by Most Rev. William Walsh, the then Archbishop of Dublin.
The Church built in the Gothic style is considered to be one of the finest in the Archdiocese; it has underegone a major refurbishment in the years 1997 to 2005.
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February 28, 2011 at 10:04 am #766696
Morlan
ParticipantAnyone for number e?
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February 28, 2011 at 2:34 pm #766697
wearnicehats
Participantthe stone building is saying Blackpitts to me
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March 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm #766698
Morlan
Participant@wearnicehats wrote:
the stone building is saying Blackpitts to me
It’s far from the Blackpitts. Here’s the other side:
And here’s the building next to it 😀
C’mon!
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March 2, 2011 at 8:06 pm #766699
GrahamH
ParticipantAh Morlan, ya gave it away with the magnificent St. Agatha’s on North William Street.
North Great Clarence Street it is, off North Strand. Now there’s a street of cottages with notions!
Google Street View
A most unusual collection of buildings that suvived the wartime bombing. Behind the church is also a wonderful 1910s OPW-style parochial house with picturesque modillion eaves.
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March 4, 2011 at 5:32 pm #766700
Morlan
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
Ah Morlan, ya gave it away
Was getting impatient! It’s an interesting little area, isn’t it?
@GrahamH wrote:
Behind the church is also a wonderful 1910s OPW-style parochial house with picturesque modillion eaves.
Complete with traditional PVC door. Bleh.
Any info on this t-shaped building that extends down beside Catherine Court?
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October 16, 2011 at 2:08 pm #766701
SeamusOG
ParticipantDid we miss a couple?
I seem to remember that there were some a few pages back which were never answered.
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