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Will we be allowed cycle on this bridge – or will it really be pedestrian only?
Well, McCabe does have a point.
Merrion Square has become a statuary dumping ground and in fairness the flowerbeds are always pretty twee.
Not too sure there is much football played though.
Rumour has it that CIE have realised that the advertising hordings do need planning permission after all – that they have been illegal for years.
It seems the SBP story is simply making the best of an obligation to remove them that is coming “down the tracks” anyway.
@Andrew Duffy wrote:
All entrances to the existing boardwalk were closed last night, with some stonework removed from the quay walls lying by the Millennium Bridge, Any idea if there’s anything other than widening the entrances going on?
I noticed that at the weekend. I was wondering was it the installation of some flood protection barriers superior to the sandbags that have been around for a while now…November 15, 2004 at 4:44 pm in reply to: Abbey Theatre is unlikely to be redeveloped at its present location #741265
So its either Colaiste Mhuire or Hawkins House according to the Irish Times today.
I’d prefer Hawkins House but I fear the vacant and decaying school has the edge. Will the Theatre be enough of a magnet to invigorate that entire corner of Parnell Square?
I mean, where on earth would one go for a pint after the show?
Anyone know what are the plans for the development of the Rotunda hospital?
The Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism, Mr O’Donoghue, is to ask the Cabinet to approve a new Dublin site for the Abbey Theatre within a matter of weeks.
The Minister is currently studying two sites, Hawkins House – the home of the Department of Health which was once the site of the Theatre Royal – and ColÃ¡iste Mhuire, a former school, on Parnell Square.
A third site at Infirmary Road has been ruled out because it is perceived to be too far from the the city centre. Another possibility, the former Carlton Cinema site in O’Connell Street, has been dropped because of a legal dispute over ownership.
A spokesman for Mr O’Donoghue insisted last night that no decision on the two final sites had yet been made, but the Minister was particularly keen to resolve the issue before Christmas, allowing the decision on the future of the Abbey to be taken in its centenary year.
The spokesman said appraisal of the two sites was still being carried out by the Office of Public Works which was looking at the “commercial sensitivities” of the ColÃ¡iste Mhuire site. The spokesman explained that commercial sensitivities was a reference to the fact that “not all of the site at Parnell Square is in public ownership”. But he added that whichever site emerged from the process is to be brought to Cabinet by Mr O’Donoghue “within weeks”.
While the ColÃ¡iste Mhuire site has the advantage of retaining the Abbey Theatre within the north inner-city – in the constituency of the Taoiseach, Mr Ahern – the five publicly owned Georgian houses on the site are listed for preservation in the Dublin City Development Plan. To move the Abbey successfully to the site would represent an architectural challenge, but not an insurmountable one.
ColÃ¡iste Mhuire has the advantage of being on Parnell Square where the Gate Theatre, the Ambassador Cinema, the Dublin Writers’ Museum, and the Hugh Lane Municipal Gallery are already housed. The National Wax Museum is around the corner in Granby Row. The establishment of the Abbey Theatre on the square would be a major boost for Dublin City Council’s hopes to expand the cultural range of facilities in the north city.
Against this, Hawkins House has regularly featured in various lists of Dublin’s worst buildings. The TÃ¡naiste and Minister for Health, Ms Harney, remarked on taking up office there recently that half the windows wouldn’t open while the other half wouldn’t close. Its city centre location and association with the Theatre Royal are seen as positive elements.
The Government initially decided to redevelop the Abbey on its existing site and turned down the offer of a new site in the docklands. However, the existing site is not large enough and acquiring additional properties would be prohibitively expensive and time-consuming.
The chances of ABP refusing a repeat application are next to zero unless new arguments are brough forward. Notwithstanding the inappropriateness of the location the main basis for ABP’s previous refusal was the breach of zoning.
Appellants would need to come up with strong new arguments now that the Council have buckled under Mansfield’s lobbying.
I wonder what are the odds that the NRA take a more robust line on the traffic implications this time round?November 10, 2004 at 1:48 pm in reply to: Abbey Theatre is unlikely to be redeveloped at its present location #741264
My OPW sources say they have excluded two of the three shortlisted sites (Colaiste Mhuire and docklands) and are concentrating on Hawkins House. They need to buy some properties in the vicinity in order to extend the footprint, and are sussing that out. Neighbouring landowners are, as we speak, adding noughts to the value of their buildings…..
That’s strange Sue, I’m not sure I would rely on your sources. For example, it’s not true that docklands was one of the three shortlisted options.
A chara, – There is much talk of the linking-up of the two new Luas lines through Dublin city centre. The obvious solution is for Trinity College to let the Luas through its grounds at Nassau Street.
The Luas could then proceed up Tara Street and across Butt Bridge to link up with the Red Line in Abbey Street.
This solution would be cheap, and would open up the vista and atmosphere of Trinity College to the ordinary people of Dublin.
The students and staff would have to put up with some little disruption, but the sacrifice of their cloistered peace would be much appreciated by the rest of us. – Yours, etc.,
MUREDACH DOHERTY, Lower Beechwood Avenue, Dublin 6.
Of course, now that Eircom has got permission so as to realise its full value, it will undoubtedly flog the site for someone else to develop.
We can only hope the purchasers will seek variations to the permission that improve matters….
I’m particularly disappointed by the approach to the border with the RHK gardens. That sounds like a real shame.
Originally posted by d_d_dallas
Reading in the Sunday Papers that new transport minister Cullen wishes to link the two Luas lines via Dawson/College Green/Westmoreland St. Obviously this infers a massive amount of traffic being banned from these parts, hence would allow for partial pedestrianisation, ala proposals for Stephens Green at Grafton St end.
I saw this claimed on the front of the Sunday Times. It was a very mediocre bit of journalism though. Was it reported more credibly elsewhere or was this just a kite?
I wish you were right. But unless there is an explicit government policy statement over-ruling random convention centres – which is not in place at the moment, the Board will have no veto over some thing like this.
Read the decision again. The basis of refusal was the contravention of zoning.
Originally posted by Thomond Park
Has anyone read the Bord Pleanala refusal from earlier this year. It is extremely clear “only a city centre site will be considered”
Irrelevant I fear. The South Dublin Council momentum to rezone City West is more or less unstoppable.
Once this happens Mansfield will proceed to complete his erection as a convention centre whether ABP likes it or not.
Thereafter, the pressure on the Government to co-fund anything else will be minimal. (Anyway Mansfield will probably be off to the EU Commission or European Court complaining about anti competitive State Aids or something if the Government incentivises or co-funds a city centre competitor)
Originally posted by Andrew Duffy
The centrepiece of the project is a 13 storey tower. I expect the appeal from An Taisce is already being drafted, for submission on the final day.
I’d be surprised if they object on height grounds Andrew. But I suppose time will tell.October 21, 2004 at 12:32 am in reply to: Abbey Theatre is unlikely to be redeveloped at its present location #741246
Originally posted by PaulC
I would love to see Hawkins House knocked down and rebuild the Abbey where the old Theatre Royal used to be along with a new Screen cinema complex. A landmark development of international significance incoprpoating the 2 would be great.
Now that would be a fascinating idea… Especially in the context of the future of College Green etc being discussed in another thread. Me votes for that!October 21, 2004 at 12:28 am in reply to: Abbey Theatre is unlikely to be redeveloped at its present location #741245
Someone suggested the “old” ColÃ¡iste Mhuire site on Parnell Square to me this evening.
Could that be a runner?October 20, 2004 at 6:42 pm in reply to: Abbey Theatre is unlikely to be redeveloped at its present location #741240
I don’t understand why the Carlton site is being ruled out before the High Court ruling on the City Council’s CPO? Maybe its prudent to come up with another idea pending this much overdue ruling – which was expected before the summer break.
Still, surely O’Connell St is the obvious solution if it can work? I’d hate to see it crossed off the list permanently.
Where are the other sites which are being considered?
Ironic name I suppose.
Apparently the original submission was even more ghastly. The images posted here are of a revised improved offering!
Rumour has it that CIE have stymied this plan which was really quite visionary.
Regretfully I don’t have details.
Anyone else able to cast any light?
Originally posted by Diaspora
His display on the week in politics was a disgraceful show of populism. [/B]
Sorry I missed this. Is it O’Dowd we are talking about? Can you give a summary?
That’s tomorrow, Tuesday.
Pity, I can’t make it.