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saw that on the paper. i dont think they’re phsycally bringing the road to opposite edges of the site, rather they are completing it as far as possible for practical use. i imagine they’re hoping the wall-hugging hippies will be too stoned some sunday and go to mass in some old cairn, then they can sneak in and complete it.
i really dont understand why this castle could be said to be so important. if they got time team in they could figure out the whole lot in 3 days and go home happy. its just an old bloody proddy outpost on the edge of the pale and i say screw it, progression not regression. i imagine the same fools who are all for skyscrapers (naz) and innercity deelopment are completelely opposed to this sort of ruinous activity, and vice versa. i dont think this bunch of little walls is any more important than the wrecked foundation of a georgian house in dublin, and when it comes to it they have to be built upon.
anyway, it’ll give supersleuth archaeologists something to stroke their beards about in 100 years when we take up the road because we all use jetpacks run on earwax and soup scum (they’re very similar in bolton street skank-teen) and we’ve all chucked our cars into the sun
peace naz
i’ve always had pride in my country, travelling far and wide and stressing my southern accent when it suits to make new friends. i’ve lived in dublin for four years, always north of the river, and the only occassion i have to feel shame for my heritage is when i walks the streets of my capital. its disgusting. the ppl are dispicable, the authorities are out of all order, and improvements are blocked by anal members of a defunct state. bring on the next recession so i have an excuse to take my filthy degree and leave in a blaze of wake-induced vomit.
and just so i’m not accused of leaving the topic of the thread: O’CONNELL STREET IS A BIG SMELLY KIP
“yes it’s poor but atleast they have skyscrapers”
dammit naz skyscrapers arent necassarily a sign of a good city. a clean main thoroughfare and a loack of crime are more important than building tall. i appreciate that you have an (overwhelming) interest with tall buildings but dammit theres more to improving cities.
also, what the hell is daithi doolan talking about?,
‘Ireland is now the 8th richest country in the world so there can be no excuses for homelessness, for waiting lists, overcrowded private accommodation or people being priced out of the housing market.’
theres plenty of excuses dots. i dont know who they are but those 7 better countries are probably just as crap for those at the bottom of the capitalist puddle
children. stop it.
the point has been made that it seems some people on this forum would like a nanny state where kids are locked up and made sit down, ppl dont drink etc.
what kind of nanny state would it be if every climbable object were to be gaurded against? why should the overriding concept of a design for public space be to make it litiation proof? the first fool to fall of that bridge will make a fortune and then it’ll be spoiled for everyone. it should be a sueable offence to sue a person for your own stupidity.
anyone read michael moores “stupid white men”? hes right about this country and others like it outside the u.s. we’re going to shit
now thats just not nice naz!
someone asked earlier if we could slap a preservation order on the thing? why not? its sculpture and art and as a piece it should remain completely intact. i havent seen the bridge close up yet, i’ve had to retire down south for the summer and earn, but what exactly is the problem? where are people getting up? surely a protective structure of glass or fine titanium mesh or something could be erected without detracting from the thing. is this why the bottom 10 metres of the spike are so bloody smooth and shiny? to stop the innocent little mites from following natural childlike attraction to climbable things and try to scale the spike? nice view up there. nice splat down here 🙂 little dears
seen too many crack heads shout at their crack hoes in kippy little alleyways around o’connell street to hold out much hope for their effective incorporation in the renewed urban fabric of dublin. thats got more to do with my opinions on scumbags than any like or dislike of narrow streetlets in cities.
the patrolling issue is an important one, as well as cleaning. are their any alleys in dublin that are well lit, oft frequented all day and night, and desirable and safe? connections around grafton street and stephens green spring to mind
what did ppl think of the documentary? i managed to stay awake til the end.
thought his thesis was interesting. great imagination but one gets the sense its all done for its own sake. and the pretense of decorating your own home with your own amazing works is astonishing. nice angle with the spines, but is he thinking of himself as a modern day leonardo?
the place on the n.c.r by the library library, the monument to some dead soldier is there, leads onto the long park that goes perpendicular to the n.c.r, down behind the old ice rink that is now tragically a carpet shop.
the long park used to be the canal and led down almost as far as the kings inn. the n.c.r used to have a humpback bridge over the canal to allow for boats to travel under, which has since been destroyed to level the road.
god its hot today
o’riordan staehli did a fantastic job converting an old old school house in douglas for themselves. i know its not used as a school now but it shows that a little bit of effort and a good architect (or 10) can make an old simple building something special
i hope you never have to deal with cork county council. its amazing the contrast of attitudes between the city and county council planning divisions in cork. i’m not embittered at all. i dont think planning issues or difficulties are very important in terms of architecture. its simply an aspect of the loathsome task of being an architect in this country. dont worry yourself about ppl “fostering contempt” for other professions, that begins the day you step into a hole like bolton street and the immediate divisions between engineers, architects, and all other courses are established. even relations between architects and technicians seem pre-defined before enterring the workplace. i think having a healthy grudge against planning monkeys is no harm. you could hardly say the business of construction is the realm of gentlemen and camraderie. i just like getting stuff built
getting something built is simply a matter of playing the system. suck up to planners in the initial stages. take their advice and tell them how original and benificial they are. then screw them and do a decent design, which they’ve already approved to their superiors based on what they’ve seen already.
planners consider themselves architects in chief in many cases. you just have to work with and then around them. the red tape is simply their way of saying “i’m important” and in a way they’re better off on their little pedastal.
not true. from the experiences of country boys like myself and all the locals i know, o’connell street is the least desirable place to be of all dublins main thoruoghfares. i’ve worked nightshift security on o’connell street, westmoreland street, and dame street, and the idea that these reports are exaggarated is simply denial. it is a fact that o’connell street is the most dangerous. its a cop-out to say that the instances of crime per meter of street, or by the number of people to walk down it, make it less than lethal. the reality is that this street is the worst in ireland.
the fairest way of judging it would be by what we deserve. the main street of our capital should be a place for locals and visitors to walk uninhibited day or night. the main streets of helsinki for example are safe to traverse any hour. this is comparable to dublin in that helisinki is roughly the same size, and the centre of the city is organised around two long streets, slightly at an angle to each other, and surrounded by tributaries which are the centres of nightlife.
i was thinking more of buildings, stadia, possibly avery structures, they seem to be the best solution. good luck with that clothes line though. i have some structural pegs if you need them 🙂
thats quite a generalisation aken.
the reality of the social housing requirements are that every new development, be it apartments or an estate, have reduntant, unattractive properties included. the council cant choose which units they get, they are just given their requisite 20% and they can like it or lump it. this normally means a terrace of small houses in an otherwise detached estate, normally removed from the main public and parking spaces, or else a bunch of one bed or studio apartments in a complex of family sized apartments. in many cases this seems to disuade the local authority from taking the option, especially when they could just as easily spend the money on their own building to their own design.
has anyone seen the corpos new apartment building going up on dominick street, just off bolton street. in house design from wood quay, 46 units on a compact site with storage facilities for the corpo to use or rent. not a bad scheme, light, social interaction, and some degree of “opulence”. private entrances and terraces, an improvement on the big bad blocks around constitution hill and their ilk.
on the point of good neighbours, maybe its the clear distinction of peoples social class and earnings that create problems? just a thought
aalto’s paimio sanotorium in finland is a fantastic looking building. great expression. not technicaly a hospital but still, patient accomodation and assessment makes it a medical facility. compared to something like the blackrock clinic it can only be seen as a delight.
it was built around 1930, i think its current use is as a fully fledged hospital.
