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  • #706270
    MG
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    I noticed last weekend that the underside of the canopy of Liberty Hall is now lit, allowing us to see the patterned mosaic tiles.

    Looks well, as it creates a landmark at night – a floating canopy over the city.

    #727686
    Rory W
    Participant

    I pass it most nights an I think that it adds so much to the building and the Dublin skyscape at night, now if only they could do something with the other 12 floors of the building!!!

    Rory W

    #727687
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    It’s a great building that unfortunately has a really cheap and nasty skin. How about re-cladding it? (They’re planning to that with the County Hall in Cork, Ireland’s tallest building.)

    Is architectural beauty really only skin deep?

    #727688
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yes, that’s a great Idea, re-cladding Liberty Hall. Is that what they’re doing with O’Connell bridge house at the moment?

    #727689
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Reclad Liberty Hall. No, because we would end up with some dreadful 13 storey Post Modern rubbish.

    My suggestion, replace the glazing with non-reflective glass like it was originally when built. It would go some way to nmaking the building appear lighter.

    #727690
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There is no comparison between Dublin’s Liberty Hall and Cork’s County Hall,as the latter is just sheer ugly.The former is far more attractive even if it’s Mies gone wrong.
    O’Connell Bridge House is getting new glass which will restore it to it’s former glory of reflective optimism.

    #727691
    dc3
    Participant

    Of course if anything has to be done to Liberty Hall we should ensure that the height is raised to exceed County Hall as that would really annoy the Leesiders.

    And while we are in the area is not that walk down from the O’Connell Bridge a really good example of what is the problem with Dublin. Closed buildings, tawdry shops, apparently abandoned buses etc.

    #727692
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    What is it with Liberty hall’s windows? The problem with them (and so the whole building from a “skin” point of view) is that they lack uniformity – they’re never all in the same position and look very cheap because of that – if they were “symmetric” it would give the building a great mirror effect in sunny weather. But they just look…. “rattle-y”
    And I agree about raising the height – just stick an antenna on it like they did with the Petronas Towers in Kuala-Lumpur to beat the Sears tower into 2nd place!

    #727693
    Rory W
    Participant

    They lack uniformity because somebody blew up a bomb outside Liberty Hall in 1972 and the windows were not replaced the same as the originals (Which were transparent and looked much better than what is there at the moment). Hence the lack of uniformity.

    Rory W

    #727694
    john white
    Participant

    It’s still generally pathetic on the exterior. Dreadful design. Was it designed by committee?

    The top IS wonderful!

    John

    #727695
    naz78
    Participant

    I was on the DART the other day and couldn’t help notice the state of Liberty Hall. The glass looks all smashed and cracked. From what I can tell it’s the internal coating of the glass that has broken up and this is what gives the glass a broken/cracked look. It is a disgrace. I always thought Liberty Hall looked good from a distance and I now know I was right. Up close it is one the most disgusting looking buildings. I want Liberty Hall to remain in the city but can’t they do it up??? If they changed the glass to a black for examlpe. Toronto in Canada has some fabulous black skyscrapers. Liberty Hall is old yes but it should be maintained. What about self cleaning glass? And do something with the frame of the building so the new glass blends in with it. It could look good if the effort was put in!!!

    #727696
    naz78
    Participant

    What is it about Ireland? Why do they build Liberty Hall for examlpe as well as a few others and then just stop at that? I don’t understand how people could allow such buildings to go up and then complain about the nice, worthwhile projects that are being proposed. The quality of these buildings are very poor (Hawkins House, Apollo House…), so why do people object to tall, new and stylish buildings? Sure George’s Quay Plaza is good but lacks height. I agree that skyscrapers should be located in the right place but why don’t we have any? Is this all Ireland can do? Are we just capable of building flat, ugly buildings? Sir John Rogerson’s Quay is a fantastic idea, I hope they build it and several others like it, in the right area though. We have to protect our famous/important buildings.

    #727697
    Desmund
    Participant

    I agree. I really hope Sir J Rogersons Quay gets built. I also hope that they continue along those lines and construct similar buildings.

    Yes, Dublin is a fine example of a Georgian city and it’s only right that that should be noted and a sence of pride taken in it. But what is wrong with leaving a representation of 20th and 21th century architecture to go alongside these great Georgian and Victorian buildings in order to mark our city’s chronoligical development? Our citizens should indeed take pride of past architectural glories, but not be stuck in them.

    #727698
    naz78
    Participant

    liberty hall, cork county hall, ballymun flats, hawkins house, apollo house and so on. What idiot designed these buildings anyway? these particular buildings scream filth. they are so dirty looking. the quality and design are also very poor indeed. they were just left to rot away in my opinion. look at the windows in hawkins house for example. i know it’s going to be done up but that should have been done a long time ago. did you know that cuba has nicer skyscrapers than us in some parts. it shocked me! yes it’s poor but atleast they have skyscrapers. hawkins house is especially ugly and so typical of the irish eh! i blame those idiot designers for suggesting that such filth to go up in our city in the first place. if they had only designed these buildings with some style and character in mind. all i can say now is well done lads and thanks ever so much for f**king up our city!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #727699
    Andrew Duffy
    Participant

    You should visit this site:

    http://skyscrapercity.com/

    Skyscrapers aren’t that great in dense European cities, unless they’re in planned areas like La Defense or Canary Wharf. Of course, our docklands is a planned area, but the likes of Sinn Fein’s Daithi Doolan ensure that the docks will remain a few hundred acres with the same amount of office space as a single building in London.

    #727700
    bluefoam
    Participant

    Ireland has lots of lovely old Georgian & Victorian and I believe every building put up in this country should be a poor representation of these styles. Ireland should forsack its culture, creativity and personality and continue to worship the fine work of the colonists. Hell lets bring the Brits back!

    Georgian & all other styles were considered contemporary in their time. So why are we prevented from building contemporary buildings….

    #727701
    GregF
    Participant

    I remember seeing ‘poor’ Daithi out protesting at the visit of Prince Charles a few years ago when he fulfilled the Irish stereotype by throwing eggs and potatoes at him.

    And he ‘s against high rise?…….would he even know his elbow from his arse.

    #727702
    GrahamH
    Participant

    The thing that I hate about tall buildings in Dublin, or proposed buildings, is that there is no overall plan to accomodate them in the city.

    The solution most people would agree with & would want to see is for the existing city centre to remain at 5/6 storeys but for the Docklands to reach fror the skies, hence having a dictinctive city skyline of extremes, with the ‘old’ being protected.

    But this is’nt happening, and there are tallish, smallish 7/8/9/10 storey structures going up & being proposed, that are just bland, & in terms of height, contribute nothing to the city but vagueness and a lack of coherence.

    #727703
    sw101
    Participant

    “yes it’s poor but atleast they have skyscrapers”

    dammit naz skyscrapers arent necassarily a sign of a good city. a clean main thoroughfare and a loack of crime are more important than building tall. i appreciate that you have an (overwhelming) interest with tall buildings but dammit theres more to improving cities.

    also, what the hell is daithi doolan talking about?,

    ‘Ireland is now the 8th richest country in the world so there can be no excuses for homelessness, for waiting lists, overcrowded private accommodation or people being priced out of the housing market.’

    theres plenty of excuses dots. i dont know who they are but those 7 better countries are probably just as crap for those at the bottom of the capitalist puddle

    #727704
    naz78
    Participant

    very true. i would want for a safer city and so on yes but also for a modern one. it does work well in other countries. surely we can have both. it is just time for ireland to be like other countries, that’s all i am saying.

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