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blurry but cool! thats 2 in a row now for cork. other develprs will have a lot to live up 2 if this is the bar being set! nice one. seems coughlan de keyser and wilson are gonna have major say in shaping this area of the city but if they keeping comin up with things like these (i mean the kennys development too) so be it.
it would seem someone loaded anyway pug. what did it go for again??? 5 mil was it? i’d guess Cork Marts.
thats friggin amazing!!! knew it was gonna be good but thats top rate stuff. more of this please. well done kennys. the council would be mad to find odds with this 1. finally a landmark building on this side of the river. kinda gehry, look at the walls.
cant wait to see the clontarf tower – 9 storeys a tower???!!!! – i hope its not a brick massacre and uses glass to take advantage of its interestin spot. a flatiron only glass.
wats the ocallaghan docklands plan lex??? highrise im guessin???
the capitol thing looks rotten! grey ugly and what were they thinking??? a prison is a good description of it yeah.
Ballincollig looks ok but is just another shopping centre isnt it really, small enough too, same size as wilton isnt it?
@Pana01 wrote:
Hi all,
any updates from last night’s meeting at City Hall where the contentious issue of the portakabin on Patrick Street was being discussed?I was surprised to see it feature on the Sunday Independent, along with full colour photo. Maybe they’ll sit up and listen now.
that boz is rotten. totally destroys the street. anyone know when their sending back to the flames of hell whence it came???!
also wotz the news ur talkin on eg st lex??? is it headed water st way>
i heard continental airlines were lookin at using a 757 outta cork to newark – 3 times a week, but wanted to see how these ireland/us talks went first so they could get out of the whole shannon stopover thing and just have dublin and cork routes. it makes more economic sense i suppose. but dont think shannon will be too happy bout that considering their awful financial results there yesterday. only cork and dublin seem to be making any money.
though i think the old negative irish attitude towards highrise is gettin a bit tiring now i do think mr kitt has a sorta point. i dont think dublins suburbs should be dotted with highrise structures either, look at london! instead they should be located within sum central area. obviosly with exceptions made in sum other areas too.
but also i dont consider anything under 20 floors highrise either. thats probably 1 of the reasons i was so p*ssed about the water st thing in cork.
@Radioactiveman wrote:
The refusal of the Water Street development is nothing short of criminal. That’s for sure. However, it raises the question: what is a landmark building?
It seems to me the tower was refused bcause it looked too much like the rest of the development to be considered ‘landmark’, i’d kind of agree with this definition- i mean, whats the point in having a landmark building if it just looks the same as the rest of it- just bigger. i.e. bigger does not make it ‘landmark’.i think its wot you make it. and with water st – its unfair to dismiss it cos of one persons opinion but also in the first plan, the tower brought a sense of symmetry to the scheme cos it was right in the middle, from what i read here it was moved east at the request of the planners. so thats kind of unfair that it was refused on that basis. also the towers height alone woulda made it a landmark in cork like county hall is. the tower was like the peak of the development and brought a sense of unifrmity to the whole thing.a completely difrent building in the middle of it all woulda looked stupid.
@lexington wrote:
Yes, it’s true… Senior Planner Ronnie McDowell is likely to recommend refusal come next Monday’s decision date for the superb Water Street development. Even considering the extensive pre-planning talks between developer Mark McMahon’s Werdna Ltd, architects Murray O’Laoire and city planners on the revised plan for Water Street – which saw considerable 25% reductions in residential unit numbers, reductions in height, increased commercial provision etc etc – issues regarding height, density, overshadowing, traffic management, among others – have prompted CCC not to find favour with the project. In my opinion, this represents the biggest mistake CCC have made so far this year. I am told from the inner realms that Werdna will seek to appeal this case should a final refusal decision be made.
This is devastating blow to the Cork Docklands development flow and to Werdna who spent so much time, money and effort trying to get this right. I can only hope that ABP have more sense about them on appeal.
Clearer details will be made as time progresses.
I really can’t sum up my disappointment at this decision. The 2 genetlemen I attained this info from earlier this week were equally angered and saddened – and rightly so! The news was confirmed again today by a further source.
It’s a sad step in Cork’s regeneration.
this is an utter outrage and a complete disgrace, the council should be boxed for this stupid stupid decision.
lexington wrote:😮 Paul Kenny (Kenny Group) is to apply for the demolition and redevelopment of his car-park facility, surrounding retail and office buildings in a block bordered by St. Patrick’s Quay, Brian Boru Street, Ship Street and the Lower Glanmire Road. The redevelopment will consist of a 4 – 5 storey office building of some 83,000sq ft fronting onto St. Patrick’s Quay, Ship Street and Brian Boru Street]cool! roll on the docklands. should get things movin this side of the northern dock quays like the way water st is doing it on the east side. nice to see this sort of buildings featuring more in cork.
@bunch wrote:
i really don’t understand people’s reactions to this building – is it because it is contemporary, striking, slightly different to nearby buildings – some comments have been a bit hysterical in my opinion – and when we have far worse new buildings being built everywhere in the city no-one seems to care for eg does anyone know the Bridgeholm (or something like that) apartment scheme being built above Commons Road – now thats bad – cheap looking early 1990’s tax incentive effect to the utmost.
yeh – that commons rd building ain’t fair pretty at all. yer entitled to your opinion like, but i still think the victoria cross student building is just boring. i though contemp. meant inspired and new. theres no definition to it at all like. but like i say everyones entitled to there opinion.
hey lex, fair job on the forum! what do you think are the 5 most importent projects in cork at the mo? the 1s in planning or not built yet.? got any pics?
