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The georgian buildings that are part of the existing Arthurs quay SC – ie those on Patrick st I presume will be retained in any future development ?.. It would be ironic to see the 1990 ?.. shopping centre knocked with the old buildings retained. To be fair from the quay its not the worst building in the world – it looks awful from patrick st though – the big green car park grilles never looked good.
Sorry for confusion here – where exactly is this devolpment going to be ?..Singland I assume is the area below where the parkway valley shopping centre is currently being constructed .
Cant help thinking how much better an M&S would be in the city centre ala Cork and Dublin. Out of town shopping centres like the Crescent – which to be fair is not the worst of them – are ultimately depressing places.. Childers road SC with its funky shaped signage trying to say these buildings arnt really cheap warehouses with absolutley zero architectural merit….
… i know this isnt a solution – but id nearly prefer to see the 1970s flats at the corner of the strand and the Ennis road knocked and the new apartments sited there..
The city boundary ends on the Ennis road just before Dunnes Jetland – there is a small stream running under the road that forms the city boundary from there all thr way over to the Shannon beyond Barringtons pier. So Supermacs would be ‘in town’ but the Davin Arms is in the county. The houses in Brookville gardens,Coolraine Heights and Shanamore park are in the city and some people might consider those estates as part of Caherdavin..
I scanned the article.. if its illegal to scan / post here will someone please advise and I will remove..
And while Im on my rant – Ed Walsh is a Cork man who for nearly 30 years has worked for this region – he doesnt care about the city/council squabble !..or Eddie Wade…. the only point that matters is that the city needs to seen externally as a major centre – and the first and basic measure is population. We all know that the city and suburbs together are roughly 100,000 people. but the city population is 52,000 and shrinking. I would argue that if we hadnt been the ‘3rd city’ ..Shannon Airport , Ardnacrusha and the cement factory would never have been located in this region… All of Limerick..ALL!!..as well as most of Clare and North Tipperary need Limerick to be seen as the 3rd city of this country… hell..lets name it MidWest city if it makes people feel better..
but remember.. when your eating your cornflakes tomorrow , your local post is sorted in Cork ..and the nearest Breast check clinic is in Galway…..What gets me down most about the Crescent SC is that it has become the de facto main shopping street – if you can call the main mall a street – for Limerick city.
A girl working in the Body Shop said they are doing 4 times more business in the Crescent since they moved there from the corner of O Connell st / Thomas st.
I believe M&S have said in the past that they prefer high quality city centre locations… not this time seemingly.
Some news on the new greyhound track here
one more of park point with scaffold down..the panelling on the side was shown as yellow on the architects cgi picure but are a more sober earthenware colour.. looks very well I think.
@KeepAnEyeOnBob wrote:
Hello folks, newbie here. There has been talk of development of the block between Sarsfield Bridge and Arthurs Quay, I saw it had cropped up in this thread.
One question, is there any way that the Debenhams building can be secured for being retained? I’m not any kind of expert, but it’s surely a fine example of 30s architecture, probably about the only one in Limerick, and a landmark building in the city. It looks really good since they painted it for the Roches->Debenhams changeover.
It’s absolutely crazy there’s any talk of knocking it.
Also, does anyone know what the structure being built on the Old Dublin Road at the bottom of the hill beside the high voltage lines is for? Is it some kind of infrastructure for the Parkway Valley on the other side of the Dublin Road proper (e.g. power substation), or is it really a commercial development that close to the power lines?
What is the actual status of this Opera Centre idea? Is it pie in the sky?
How did anyone give permission for the monstrosity of an office block on O’Connell St. opposite the old Co. co. buildings. It’s ugly even just for a modern building, and compounding that it’s plonk in between the Georgian townhouses. I note no-one has moved in even though its been built months. How much on it’s knocked down again inside the next 10 years?
Does anyone else think the new building on Bedford Row would have been nicer with the restored church facade as the building facade proper rather than entombing it in a modern building frame?
The old Roches Building is a lot better than Penneys next door – Its so long since it was Cannocks I cant remember if this was a ‘quality’ building previously. But if the Roches building was to be sacrificed for a ahigh quality civic building – a Limerick Pompidou centre perhaps then Id be all for it..sadly I cant see this happening.
Excellent photograph! can just see Limerick’s first roundabout at Landsdowne park at the top of the picture.
thanks for sorting out my tech difficulties putting up those photos – you might explain how its down – I just yhought I had to put in the flickr url !! I think Park point looks better from the west – as you go down the hill towards the college. From Castletroy it looms up large and cuts the horizon – a little bit like the surrealist’s door in the sky – Montparnasse tower– but on the much smaller scale.
I assume also that HQDC are in place say in the example of the N18 Limerick to (eventually) Galway. There is no alternative route for slow vehicles , L drivers etc to take so this route will stay as a HQDC with the 100kph restriction. In saying that – I use the Fermoy bypass quite regularly travelling from Limerick to the east side of Cork city… and to my knowledge there are no big signs like you had on the motorway near Naas saying who can and who cant use the route. On a totally differenet point – was in Thomond park today..things seem to have really slowed down there since Christmas… I suppose they have plenty of time before the Heineken cup for next year..but you’d think theyd like to be finished sooner rather than later..
this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Quality_Dual_Carriageway has a surprising amount of detail – in summary I think basically its an easier planning process for HQDC than motorway and you can travel on it after its built on a pony and trap…well thats my cynical take on it anyway.
Can anyone direct me to where I can see how the new Motorway to Dublin ties in with the existing roundabout beyond Finnegans restaurant – its impossible to work out where traffic coming down the Newport road will meet the roundabout .
Seems like an odd choice of use for this building since 2 similar ventures on Henry st struggled and with the Marriott and Hilton not a million miles away…
From the current CIS report….
CO. LIMERICK – GRANTED
SHOPPING CENTRE, ‘THE OPERA CENTRE’, (BOGUES YARD) ELLEN STREET/PATRICK STREET, BANK PLACE, MICHAEL STREET, LIMERICKWork is expected to commence in spring/summer 2008 on the €250 million ‘The Opera Centre’ shopping centre complex in Co. Limerick.
Planning permission was granted for the construction of a four-storey development with a gross floor area of 27,870 sq.m. and will be located on a 3.24 ha. site at (Bogues Yard) Ellen Street/Patrick Street, Bank Place and Michael Street in Limerick. Upon completion, the development will be one of the largest city-centre shopping complexes in the country.
Work is expected to take in the region of 18 months to complete. It has yet to be decided how a Main Contractor will be appointed.
According to recent newspaper reports the new consortium may be likely to go back to the planning department for a further expansion of the proposed development. The newspaper also reports that the project will create 1,200 jobs on completion. Mr. Jerry O’Reilly, the owner of The Granary and Cahill May Roberts in Limerick is understood to be one of the developers in the new consortium.
According to recent newspaper reports this development is attracting attention from Brown Thomas and House of Fraser to take space at the development when completed as Anchor Tenant.
Site area: 3.24 ha.
Floor area: 27870 sq.m. Storeys: 4
Contract: 18 Months Value: €250 Million
Start
Spring/Summer 2008 End
Late 2009/Early 2010
