well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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- March 26, 2008 at 2:29 pm #754858
KeepAnEyeOnBob
ParticipantIt’ll be interesting to if the Parkway roundabout is replaced.
However, it doesn’t seem a great idea to have a set down area on the Childer’s Road. Even with the current shopping centre, wouldn’t it have been far better to have slips off the Childers Road and onto the Dublin road from the sides of the car park, so not all traffic has to use the roundabout exit.
A lot of the traffic problems are due to conflicting movements between Childer’s Road->Castletroy and Castletroy-City. Exacerbated in the last year or so by queues back to the roundabout on the Dublin Road from the St. Patrick’s Road traffic lights. Short of adding filters at those lights for left turns in and out of St. Patricks Road (would probably need at least the house on the corner knocked), longer queue box and less frequent phases for right turns in/out of St. Patrick’s Road, there’s little that can be done, and it’s not likely that solution will be pursued.
Anyways, the entire area will be a disaster when the Parkway Valley opens, nevermind the added complications of the second set of lights and traffic at the hotel and retail park.
We’re pretty much doomed, car users as well as bus users.
March 26, 2008 at 9:01 pm #754859Anonymous
Inactive@KeepAnEyeOnBob wrote:
It’ll be interesting to if the Parkway roundabout is replaced.
However, it doesn’t seem a great idea to have a set down area on the Childer’s Road. Even with the current shopping centre, wouldn’t it have been far better to have slips off the Childers Road and onto the Dublin road from the sides of the car park, so not all traffic has to use the roundabout exit.
A lot of the traffic problems are due to conflicting movements between Childer’s Road->Castletroy and Castletroy-City. Exacerbated in the last year or so by queues back to the roundabout on the Dublin Road from the St. Patrick’s Road traffic lights. Short of adding filters at those lights for left turns in and out of St. Patricks Road (would probably need at least the house on the corner knocked), longer queue box and less frequent phases for right turns in/out of St. Patrick’s Road, there’s little that can be done, and it’s not likely that solution will be pursued.
Anyways, the entire area will be a disaster when the Parkway Valley opens, nevermind the added complications of the second set of lights and traffic at the hotel and retail park.
We’re pretty much doomed, car users as well as bus users.
Widen the road up to the Childers rd. by the new Dunnes from the new road through Curragh Birin and either your mother ot father has a sibling called Robert(a).
March 27, 2008 at 5:39 pm #754860dave123
ParticipantThis planning application is nothing but scandelous!
I cannot believe after all my whinging, and with the entire city as this stage that this has not gotten to city council head over this mess!
This is traffic blackspot
This is one hell of a planning mess.Then what do they do, it’s like they put “extra iceing on the burnt cake” enough is enough.
OK here is the highlights of todays match.
1.FIX THE INFASTRUCTURE FIRST.. feck the new development till later. (((((infastructure in place first)))) in case u missed it again!
There is a railway line at the back of the Parkway S.C boundary, lovely views from it too,2.PUT A RAIL STATION HERE or
PUT A PARK AND RIDE FACILITY THERE( Cheap version)3. STOP PUTTING ICING ON A BURNT CAKE.:D
March 27, 2008 at 5:46 pm #754861vkid
ParticipantThought this was part of the original plans but from todays Zaminer..more Parkway fun.. First line says it all really
PLANS have been lodged with Limerick County Council for an Olympic size ice rink in the city.
The facility will be sited at the Parkway Retail Park on the Dublin Road.
Alocin Ltd, the company behind the huge project, also wants to incorporate an extensive range of other recreation facilities under the one roof and these include a bowling facility with up to 12 lanes and multimedia entertainment areas. It is also proposed to provide a huge food hall adjacent to the ice rink.
And the planning application also sets out specifications for a huge restaurant and food area, which will have up to 15 separate units.The planning application also sets out areas which will be given over to health and leisure activities, a library and office space.
The overall floor area will cover 83,068 sq m and it will be located adjacent to the N7 at Singland.
2,169 car parking spaces will be provided in the multi-storey structure.
A temporary ice rink has been erected at Merchant’s Quay over the Christmas holiday period in recent years and has been a huge success attracting thousands of visitors from the wider region.
One source said: “The temporary ice rink has shown the way in that it proved there is great public appetite for ice rink skating. This is a very exciting development and the fact that it is so close to the University of Limerick campus is another great plus.â€
March 27, 2008 at 6:04 pm #754862dave123
Participant@vkid wrote:
Thought this was part of the original plans but from todays Zaminer..more Parkway fun.. First line says it all really
PLANS have been lodged with Limerick County Council for an Olympic size ice rink in the city.
The facility will be sited at the Parkway Retail Park on the Dublin Road.
Alocin Ltd, the company behind the huge project, also wants to incorporate an extensive range of other recreation facilities under the one roof and these include a bowling facility with up to 12 lanes and multimedia entertainment areas. It is also proposed to provide a huge food hall adjacent to the ice rink.
And the planning application also sets out specifications for a huge restaurant and food area, which will have up to 15 separate units.The planning application also sets out areas which will be given over to health and leisure activities, a library and office space.
The overall floor area will cover 83,068 sq m and it will be located adjacent to the N7 at Singland.
2,169 car parking spaces will be provided in the multi-storey structure.
A temporary ice rink has been erected at Merchant’s Quay over the Christmas holiday period in recent years and has been a huge success attracting thousands of visitors from the wider region.
One source said: “The temporary ice rink has shown the way in that it proved there is great public appetite for ice rink skating. This is a very exciting development and the fact that it is so close to the University of Limerick campus is another great plus.”
Yes the first line, is like a bit “oh we ‘re doing it again”, is this some sort of joke?
Before I rant, it would be great to have Olympic sized ice rink in limerick, but its getting beyond insane.
All these developments that we’ve been discussing, including the ones that are already built alongside the Childer’s/Dublin road axis are all suited adjacent to motorways and near key interchanges.
Not on a 2 lane narrow urban road that is current’y choked in traffic. Seriously who the feck is in planning in Limerick these days?
Why don’t they build a aquatic centre it will be all the extra fun sure why not like… (joke)
RANT OVER.
March 28, 2008 at 11:03 am #754863scitilop
Participant@vkid wrote:
Thought this was part of the original plans but from todays Zaminer..more Parkway fun.. First line says it all really
PLANS have been lodged with Limerick County Council for an Olympic size ice rink in the city.
The facility will be sited at the Parkway Retail Park on the Dublin Road.
Alocin Ltd, the company behind the huge project, also wants to incorporate an extensive range of other recreation facilities under the one roof and these include a bowling facility with up to 12 lanes and multimedia entertainment areas. It is also proposed to provide a huge food hall adjacent to the ice rink.
And the planning application also sets out specifications for a huge restaurant and food area, which will have up to 15 separate units.The planning application also sets out areas which will be given over to health and leisure activities, a library and office space.
The overall floor area will cover 83,068 sq m and it will be located adjacent to the N7 at Singland.
2,169 car parking spaces will be provided in the multi-storey structure.
A temporary ice rink has been erected at Merchant’s Quay over the Christmas holiday period in recent years and has been a huge success attracting thousands of visitors from the wider region.
One source said: “The temporary ice rink has shown the way in that it proved there is great public appetite for ice rink skating. This is a very exciting development and the fact that it is so close to the University of Limerick campus is another great plus.â€
I await excitedly to see the announcement (after planning has been granted) that the Ice Ring is to be changed to office space
March 28, 2008 at 2:35 pm #754864Goofy
ParticipantThe latest planning permission was granted months ago and constuction is well underway. 7 tower cranes on site at the moment.
April 2, 2008 at 6:08 pm #754865Tuborg
ParticipantIndeed the plans for this multi purpose sports arena have been known for some time, Limerick County Council granted permission back in March last year.
064103
omission of 10 screen cine-plex and provision of new multi-functional sports and performance auditorium(to accommodate ice rink, sports/basketball court, theatre) and assoiated concessions and health, lifestyle and well-being centre incorporating physical therapy, lifestyle therapy, holistic/alternative therapy, gym/yoga, reception/admin, tearooms, beauty therapy suites, treatment rooms and sports injury clinic; cafe/juice bar, new management suite/control room to replace previously permitted library reference room and ancillary area. Revised proposals for creation of new public park incorporating landscaping, planting, water features, skate/bmx park, play areas, kick-a-bout football pitch.
Singland
Dublin Road, LimerickLindats plans for the Parkway shopping centre site were lodged with the City Council on March 26th, although thanks to their world class planning enquiry system, the only information we’re given is See attached schedule!:rolleyes:
April 3, 2008 at 9:41 am #754866Griff
ParticipantSorry for confusion here – where exactly is this devolpment going to be ?..Singland I assume is the area below where the parkway valley shopping centre is currently being constructed .
April 4, 2008 at 9:59 pm #754867Anonymous
InactiveTunnel to link new Court House to Prison
MONDAY, 31/03/2008 Radio Limerick Live 95FM
Limerick`s new courthouse is likely to include a link by tunnel to Limerick Prison.
Development of the new building is expected to begin once a number of legal issues have been resolved.
Discussions are ongoing with the owners of Costello`s Yard on Mulgrave Street for the purchase of the site there, which is adjacent to Limerick Prison.
It`s expected a tunnel will be used to bring prisoners from there to the new courthouse.
Minister for Justice Brian Lenihan is also seeking to have an extra circuit court judge assigned to Limerick in an effort to speed up the judicial process.
Mayor of Limerick Ger Fahy says providing a new courthouse is a matter of urgency.




They seem to be serious on moving the courthouse to Mulgrave Street. To date nothing to be seen on the OPW site. Would the proposed courthouse face Mulgrave Street or would it front onto the new proposed road linking Cathedral Place with Sexton Street?
The so called Costello`s Yard was originally built as an Artillery Barracks with a few cut stone buildings still there. Would they refurbish and integrate them into the courthouse?

What new use would be in store for the building in Merchant’s Quay after they had moved? Filmhouse? Theatre?
April 4, 2008 at 10:16 pm #754868Tuborg
ParticipantAlocin Limited have lodged another application for modifications to their plans for the Parkway valley complex on the Dublin road, the stand out feature is an increase in the size of the ice rink to accomodate an olympic size facility!:eek:
Description: amendments/modifications to development permitted under ref. no. 04/3700 and amended by ref. no. 06/3211, ref. 06/4103 and ref. 07/1024 for the construction of mixed use retail/commercial and leisure development incorporating public park on the site. The proposed development involves revisions to the previously permitted development arising mainly from (a) enlargements/revisions to the ice rink to accommodate Olympic size facility (b) incorporation of additional leisure elements and food hall adjacent to ice rink facility in place of health, lifestyle and well-being centre (c) reconfiguration of layout on all levels to address specific retail tenant requirements and (d) revisions to ancillary/circulation areas and stair/lift cores, plant areas associated with the above as well as incorporation of fire escape requirements (e) increase in car parking provision from 1788 spaces to 2169 spaces. The changes involve an increase in the overall gross floor area of the development from 73,142sq.m. to 83,068sq.m. generally within the same building envelope. Design changes are also proposed to all elevations of the building from the previously permitted scheme as well as revisions to finishes and materials accociated with the above changes to the scheme and general design development. Changes are also proposed to external landscaping and pedestrian circulation areas.
Ice rink, public park, bowling lanes and shops galore…
by John O’ShaughnessyTHE Parkway Valley Retail Park, currently under construction, is turning into something really exciting.
This promises to be more than just another shopping centre, if revised plans submitted to Limerick County Council are given the green light, and first reported in our issue of last week.
The overall gross floor area is to be a massive 83,068 sq m., and is to include the country’s first Olympic size ice rink, 10-12 bowling lanes, multi-media entertainment areas and public park.
Developers, Alocin Limited, have sought amendments/modifications to the development already permitted, for the construction of mixed use retail/commercial and leisure, incorporating public park on the 6.89 Ha site, at Singland, bounded by N7 to the north, Parkway Retail Park and Castletroy View to the west, Carn na Ree to the south and undeveloped lands stretching to the Groody River to the east.
There is to be provision for 2,169 car spaces, from the original 1,788.
The changes involve an increase in the overall gross floor area of the development from 73,142 sq m to 83,068 sq m generally within the same building envelope.
Also proposed are a creche, library, financial services, a number of anchor tenants, dozens of retail units, health lifestyle and well-being centre, food court area, roof deck car park, etc.
As already revealed in the Limerick Post, there is a major extension planned for the Parkway Shopping Centre, with further units across the road on the site of the former Dillons Garage.
April 6, 2008 at 3:37 pm #754869Tuborg
ParticipantBus Station appeal is on schedule
An Bord Pleanala have confirmed to the Limerick Chronicle that they do not anticipate any delay in deciding whether to grant planning for the proposed €1 miliion redevelopment of Colbert station.
Last week the planning authority said the decision to build over 200 apartments on the South Circular Road would be delayed until April 29th due to “the sheer number of cases” before the authority. However a spokesperson told this newwspaper that the case regarding the bus and train station “is still up for decision” and said they did not forsee any delay. The authority is due to announce this Wednesday, April 2nd, whether Bus Eireann’s plans will get the green light.
Originally Limerick City Council refused Bus Eireann permission to construct a modern building which would connect with the 19th century station. Bus Eireann then appealed the decision to An Bord Pleanala and said in their submission that the proposed new station is neccessary for passenger safety and improved efficiency.
However the local planning office said the application failed to supply further information in relation to the orbital route which it is proposed will cross the front of the site. As Bus Eireann had allegedly failed to demonstrate that the proposed development would not adversely impact on the orbital route, the council deemed that the development could “endanger public safety.”
However, in the appeal to An Bord Pleanala, Pascall & Watson architects said this refusal was “wholly unreasonable.” The planning authority also said some of the works outlined in the planning application “would detract from the setting of the protected structure”, which was again rejected by the applicants. They stated that contrasting historic buildings with contemporary design is widely acceptable.
Under the plans, the bus station would move from the right to the left hand side of the current station and the existing bus station would be converted into a car park. A new two storey bus station, plans to remove redundant rail tracks, while a new public car park to the north and west of the site are also indicated.
A landscaped garden is planned for the front of the station, where a car park is currently situated. An internal walkway would also connect the rail and bus station, providing greater ease of mobility for customers. If the development is given the go-ahead, it is believed it would take two years to complete the regeneration of the station.
Demolition of existing single storey ancillary structures, removal of redundant rail tracks and public car parking to the north of the site, removal of public parking to the west of the site, removal of bus stands, parking and staff parking to the south of the site and the provision of a new 2 storey Bus Station comprising ticket offices, waiting areas, staff accommodation and public toilets, a direct step free link to the rail station concourse, covered access to 16 no. bus stands, staff parking and new bus entrance at Roxboro Road all to the north site a reconfigured and landscaped forecourt with revised vehicular access/egress, 4 no. bus stops/shelters to the west of the site and 329 no public car parking spaces to the south of the site together with ancillary site works. This is a protected structure.
Colbert Station, Parnell Street, Limerick.
Strangely the above article mentions April 2nd as the due date for a decision, while the ABP website says May 28th!:confused:
At least we now have some idea of the reasons behind the refusal, the City Council have concerns about the impact on the orbital route which is supposed to take in Parnell Street, although is it not Bus Eireanns intention to reduce pressure on the Parnell Street side of the station by using the Roxboro road as a new entrance to the site with the Parnell Street gate to be used primarily for departing services?
There still seems to be little if any movement on the orbital route itself, the City Council talked about an 18 month implementation period at its launch last year. With more remodelling works to get underway on William Street during the Summer/Autumn, we could badly do with it!
Im also curious about these “redundant rail tracks!”,are they part of the old freight line? I would hate to think Iarnrod Eireann are being short sighted in removing capacity at the station that might be required again in the future!
Below; Colbert Station Limerick
April 6, 2008 at 4:13 pm #754870vkid
Participant@Tuborg wrote:
Former Central Cinema Bedford Row
Work is continuing at an impressive rate on the site of the former cinema on Bedford Row, the new facade is virtually complete with the cladding and glazing now in place. The facade of the old methodist chapel dating from the 1840s has been retained behind the new frontage, although its difficult to tell from the picture just how visible it will be. The new building will house retail space on the ground floor with offices overhead.
Image from tippryan at the Limerick Blogger
Passed this today for the first time in ages and it looks great now that you can see the facade all cleaned up inside the glass. Will indeed look good at night if lit correctly. Bedford row looks and feels great now that shops are opening up along there. Same for Thomas Street. Nice little café buzz growing along there on a Sunday afternoon. Pedestrianisation has made a good impact on these streets imho!
Building / renovation work seems to go hand in hand with it though!April 7, 2008 at 10:41 am #754871KeepAnEyeOnBob
ParticipantI still don’t see why they had to entomb the nice recovered original facade in that boring old glass and cream stone nonsense. Like all the rest of it, the cream stone will just go a disgusting hue of green and black once the Shannon estuary climate and the local pollution gets its teeth in.
A lot of the buildings on Henry St. are already looking depressing and oppressive due to this; e.g. the Dunnes Stores building – lovely black streaks under the features. Even the rather smart BoSI building has nasty marks developing from the ledges near the top.
Sure building owners or occupiers could spend a fortune on cleaning from time to time, though no doubt that would wear down the buildings. However, surely the designers could take local conditions into account. It’s not like it’s a new problem, just look at the “red” brick Georgian buildings. I’m sure any building style will be affected, but cream and white are just asking for trouble, as are ledges with no run-off arrangements for rain.
April 7, 2008 at 9:52 pm #754872Anonymous
InactiveHave an idea this evening with all the work being done around the general dublin road parkway area and the number of right turns that are being required on what is the main road into the city if we should make a big leap and make the entire island area of what was Dillons garage and so on down to the new Hotel a one way area. the southern area by the retail park would be the western corridor and the old Dublin road the eastern corridor. You could still allow for turning right at the current parkway roundabout coming from the city on Childers.
April 8, 2008 at 2:04 am #754873dave123
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April 8, 2008 at 2:09 am #754875dave123
Participant@KeepAnEyeOnBob wrote:
I still don’t see why they had to entomb the nice recovered original facade in that boring old glass and cream stone nonsense. Like all the rest of it, the cream stone will just go a disgusting hue of green and black once the Shannon estuary climate and the local pollution gets its teeth in.
A lot of the buildings on Henry St. are already looking depressing and oppressive due to this; e.g. the Dunnes Stores building – lovely black streaks under the features. Even the rather smart BoSI building has nasty marks developing from the ledges near the top.
Sure building owners or occupiers could spend a fortune on cleaning from time to time, though no doubt that would wear down the buildings. However, surely the designers could take local conditions into account. It’s not like it’s a new problem, just look at the “red” brick Georgian buildings. I’m sure any building style will be affected, but cream and white are just asking for trouble, as are ledges with no run-off arrangements for rain.
God you must had an awful day! lol.. Would ever stop whinging… I can’t stand negative people moaning all the time, in a tell all sitting in front of a computer!
If it’s so bothersome to you?!Why don’t you do something about the image of Limerick?, Instead of you complaining and nagging everyone else to improve this city’s image 🙂
Get out a do something about it, instead of nit picking here with nonsense on dirty brick work etc
Anyway I think Henry street is looking great IMO…
You know a city “is what you make of it” give the city a break.
April 8, 2008 at 2:45 am #754876dave123
Participant@Dan Sullivan wrote:
Have an idea this evening with all the work being done around the general dublin road parkway area and the number of right turns that are being required on what is the main road into the city if we should make a big leap and make the entire island area of what was Dillons garage and so on down to the new Hotel a one way area. the southern area by the retail park would be the western corridor and the old Dublin road the eastern corridor. You could still allow for turning right at the current parkway roundabout coming from the city on Childers.
You know the irony of this mess!
There is two of them RIGHT beside each other.
Limerick city slot – Parkway SC/ Retail, Childer’s SC, Dillions, aldi and smaller shops
Limerick county slot – Parkway valley SC, castletroy lodges, singland dev, Olympic sized ice rinkNo Infastructure in place at all.. Kids are running this city I’m telling you:mad::mad:…
Dan your idea is great, but in my opinion the traffic is still going to be a disaster.Just look at irregularity and scale of development thats taking place adjacent to both routes..
There is to many private acceses on the old road, which will mean major upgrading. There are two many lights on the new road now. We are talking at least another 2 sets of lights that they will add, one for the Parkway RO, and the Parkway valley two entrances possibly. Not the proper salution IMO Look at the amount of traffic lights haven been installed since these developments have gone in. Look what the council have done to Childer’s road, they have actually created traffic gridlock here.Then we here, yet a another huge retail planning application galore for *Dillions garage* which will be in the middle of the island idea you proposed, how will that fit in to the one way plan?? How are pedestrian meant to get around this concrete garbage..
Here is wat needs to be done.
1. site on the existing Parkway S.C dedicated for allowing P+R traffic to use train into city centre.
2. Childers road Dualled from Roxboro to Parkway
3. Slips going under the roundabout to allow free movement from childers to Dublin road.
4. Pedestrian movement put undergrownd or overhead walkways (this was brushed under the rug)
5. Bus lanes added along the Childer’s and Dublin road to Uni.
6. Clare street junctioned needs o be widened at the new corbally link road entrance onto parkway RO.
7. Maybe a one way system could be put in..This is not wishful thinking, this is pre urgent thinking….. The current upgrade of replacing the roundabout with traffic lights is laughable, considering we now have another mega complex given the the thumbs up recently, the olympic sized ice rink..
Will the road upgrade have any positive affect at all, im starting to think how would it ever? The road upgrade from the private developers behind this concrete jungle are nothing but a farce!I’m actually not surprised that the ice rink got through planning now, who is’nt anyway:rolleyes:
April 8, 2008 at 9:39 am #754877bonzer1again
ParticipantDave123, I couldn’t agree with you more, the whole Dublin Rd is going to get swamped with traffic from these developments….I would also suggest that since the University is probably one of the largest contributors of traffic in this area, that time is now well overdue to open access to the University from the Clare side of the campus. This would help alleviate the traffic being forced out onto the Dublin Road. What makes it even more farcical is that the bridge and the road (laneway if I’m honest) is already there, and blocked by a gate!!!!!, but it wouldn’t take much to put something in to help handle the traffic levels that I would expect it to take.
When it comes to traffic lights being put in by the council, I can’t wait to see how they make a mess of it…and then 4/5 months later go back and sort it all out….It’s about time that the councils invested in a Traffic management system that would be manned so that in times of need, the light timing intervals could be changed. So basically what I am looking for is a traffic mangement centre for the city and it’s major suburbs. (Wishful thinking)…..what’s amazing about this is that the CCTV cameras are already in place in the city (Garda camera’s), maybe they could use those.
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