well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

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  • #754738
    Maskhadov
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    are they going to fill that lake in ?

    #754739
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Tuborg wrote:

    I must say the progress on this project has been highly impressive so far.

    The planned tunnel opening date is for September 2010, maybe they could open the stretch between the Rossbrien and Dock road interchanges beforehand, thus giving the city centre an opportunity to complete it’s pedestrianisation work in advance?

    @Maskhadov wrote:

    are they going to fill that lake in ?

    It looks odd alright to see the dual carriageway enter the tunnel and then disappear in the middle of a lake. I don’t know anything about the lake itself, if it’s origins is natural or man made through quarrying (cement works?). The lake could be an interesting solution / compromise for relocating the Limerick floating docks?

    #754740
    Bock the Robber
    Participant

    No. The lagoon stays. It will be held back by earthworks.

    #754741
    Tuborg
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    It looks odd alright to see the dual carriageway enter the tunnel and then disappear in the middle of a lake. I don’t know anything about the lake itself, if it’s origins is natural or man made through quarrying (cement works?). The lake could be an interesting solution / compromise for relocating the Limerick floating docks?

    Bunlicky lake as its known is located on lands owned by Irish cement, material was quarried from here to be used at the factory nearby. I remember reading somewhere that it is listed as a national heritage area and is home to some rare species of flora and fauna. I think Irish Cement also operate (or used to operate) a tailings pond here.

    It was obviously a much cheaper solution to construct a causeway over the lake, the only other option would have been to construct a much longer tunnel under both Bunlicky lake and the Shannon itself, a distance of over a mile! In fairness that was never going to happen! Anyway I look forward to driving across Bunlicky lake in the next couple of years, even if we will have to pay for that pleasure!:(

    #754742
    Tuborg
    Participant

    Report of the Limerick City Council Boundary Committee

    The Limerick Leader is reporting that the minister for the environment has given the go-ahead for the Limerick County Council lands on the northside of the city to be transferred into the administrative area of Limerick City Council. I was under the impression that this had already gone ahead as of January 1st this year?

    I only hope that this is the start of a proper re-evaluation of the entire City boundary, its only right that a similar study is carried out on the southside!

    Gormley’s green light for Limerick city boundary

    ENVIRONMENT Minister John Gormley has ended a 58-year stalemate and cleared the way for extending Limerick city’s boundaries.
    Mr Gormley – who has strong links with the city – has strongly backed the long-sought boundary extension which will see large parts of Moyross and Caherdavin integrated into the city at long last.

    The Minister told the Limerick Leader this Wednesday that he had received the Limerick Boundary Committee report of Boundary Committee which he had set up in October 2007.

    This followed the Fitzgerald Report which recommended, among other things, that the borough boundary be extended to include thousands of homes in Moyross and Caherdavin in the city.

    “I have a strong personal connection with Limerick City and I will give my full support to the regeneration and development work underway
    in Limerick, which will benefit the entire region,” the Minister told the Leader earlier today.

    Mr Gormley, who grew up in Corbally and went to school to St Munchin’s College, added: “In view of the launch of the Vision Statements for the Moyross and Southill Regeneration Plans by the President recently, I particularly welcome the local political support and agreement, as voiced by Limerick City Council and Limerick County Council.”

    The Minister now intends to sign an order which will make the boundary extension legally binding. This will require TDs’ and Senators’ approval but that is seen as a formality at this stage.

    Recommendation to the Minister

    In the interests of convenient and effective local government, in order to address the geographical divorcement of the area concerned from Limerick County Council, and to assist the implementation of the Fitzgerald report, the Boundary Committee recommends that the Minister proceeds with a boundary alteration, to include the townlands of Ballygrennan, Caherdavin, Clonconane, Clondrinagh, Clonmacken, Coonagh East,Coonagh West, Knock and Shannabooly within Limerick City Council’s boundary.

    #754743
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Dreamstate wrote:

    I would love to know how the re-generation board members were selected . Can anyone advise us on this ?
    In particular who selected the developers ? …. Was it the Elected Members ? I think that everyone should check it out and keep an eye on what the re-generation board members get back in time to come…….

    Trust is good, control is better!

    Still though, it’s a great sign of confidence if developers are willing to risk € 40 million on acquiring Moyross Castlepark House and its 80 acre estate. A year ago it was valued at just a mere € 1 million!

    A new northern relief road connecting to the Coonagh roundabout would open up the whole area for the better.

    Photo Limerick Museum

    #754744
    johnglas
    Participant

    This looks like an imposing pile, but I am unclear from the picture and the article what is left and what is likely to happen to it. The core of the house looks like a medieval tower-house, not an 18th century neo-gothic confection. Is none of it saveable?

    #754745
    Dreamstate
    Participant

    Limerick City heights and densities seem to be currently decided by one individual and based on the political power and monetary capabilities of individual personalities involved rather than a clear and transparent framework for the city .

    In Aukland , each zoned area of land has a height restriction , density allowance and a pallette of materials proposed to be drawn upon. Similarly , development regulations state clearly allowable heights and ‘set backs’ from street edges for proposed buildings in Manhattan .

    Clear policy in terms of scale , height and density are required urgently by Limerick City Council for the existing city area before they claim to be ‘under resourced ‘ and get sidetracked by the extended area ……..

    #754746
    Tuborg
    Participant

    Residents to meet over Crescent plan Concern over traffic caused by Marks & Spencer outlet

    Limerick Leader

    RESIDENTS in the Dooradoyle/Raheen area are to hold a meeting within the next two weeks to formally decide whether they will lodge an objection to the proposed multi-million euro expansion at the Crescent shopping Centre.
    Separate planning applications have been lodged with Limerick County Council for the expansion of the Dooradoyle-based shopping centre to include a Marks & Spencer retail unit, and to revise the traffic layout in the area to accommodate for an anticipated rise in visitors to the centre.

    According to members of the Residents’ Alliance Committee, based in Raheen, the proposal to extend the shopping centre is at the expense of basic infrastructure which the area lacks.

    “There is no infrastructure out here — what is here at the moment simply sucks. The builder always seems to be ahead and the council is just lagging behind,” said committee member Mike Cussen.

    An application has been lodged by the Dublin-based company Stapleyside Company Ltd & Derenburg Ltd, for the replacement of the existing roundabout at the junction of St Nessan’s Road and Dooradoyle Road. This would allow for a new cross road junction and additional access to the Crescent Shopping Centre.

    The new junction layout and all proposed works are said to tie into the ongoing road improvements to the St Nessan’s Road overbridge and the Limerick Southern Ring Road Phase A new bus stop would also be provided on the Dooradoyle Road, near existing Dooradoyle Mall entrance.
    Internal vehicular routes within the Crescent Shopping Centre would also have to be realigned, and 165 car parking spaces would be removed.

    Under the plans to expand the shopping centre, nine new retail units have also been proposed. These units would be located along a new retail street between the proposed Marks & Spencer building and the existing Crescent Shopping Centre.

    If the planning application is approved, Marks & Spencer would occupy more than 10,000 square metres and would be located to the southeast of the site, opposite the Garryowen entrance.

    Its hard to disagree about the lack of infrastructure in this area, the last 10 years have seen huge levels of commercial and residential development which has meant more and more cars on already clogged roads, this policy cant go on for ever! As for the proposed extension to the shopping centre, its looks like the existing Garryowen? entrance will remain untouched with the new retail units being constructed adjacent to it, the new wing also appears to be completely independant from the existing centre. The new multi storey carpark is to be located on an existing surface carpark between this new wing and the omniplex cinema.

    The plans for a new signalised junction (see image 3) to replace the existing roundabout appear to show dedicated lanes to partially separate traffic heading to the shopping centre and traffic heading elsewhere.

    #754747
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Dreamstate wrote:

    Limerick City heights and densities seem to be currently decided by one individual and based on the political power and monetary capabilities of individual personalities involved rather than a clear and transparent framework for the city .

    In Aukland , each zoned area of land has a height restriction , density allowance and a pallette of materials proposed to be drawn upon. Similarly , development regulations state clearly allowable heights and ‘set backs’ from street edges for proposed buildings in Manhattan .

    Clear policy in terms of scale , height and density are required urgently by Limerick City Council for the existing city area before they claim to be ‘under resourced ‘ and get sidetracked by the extended area ……..

    I agree dreamstate, an incoherent skyline could spoil the city especially along the waterfront. The image below is pretty much the present view as seen from the town hall. It’s right in the planners face and hope sincerely the future projects for the Arthur’s quay, ESB and Garda sites will harmonise the skyline! In my opinion the Riverpoint looks very well from it’s western side but it’s eastern side looks somewhat clumsy.

    #754748
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Tuborg wrote:

    The plans for a new signalised junction (see image 3) to replace the existing roundabout appear to show dedicated lanes to partially separate traffic heading to the shopping centre and traffic heading elsewhere.

    Quite some changes in store for the vicinity of this junction. The future St. Nessan’s road in direction of the city will have to climb in order to cross over (flyover) the railway line, the Ballynaclough river and the N7 dual carriageway.

    The T-shaped junction has a few improvements, but also it seems to have created a few more snags.

    Firstly the way into town has a slipway to avoid the junction traffic lights.

    Similarly coming from town, a slipway turning off left into the shopping thus avoiding the junction.

    Coming from the regional and entering the shopping centre at the junction is the first flaw as there appears to be two lanes to be merged into one at the entrance. Or is one of the lanes designated for a right turn onto the Dooradoyle link road?

    The second flaw in my opinion is to include an exit from the Shopping centre at the junction. Imagine city bound traffic coming out here and wanting to turn right against on coming traffic from the regional. Further McDrive’s entrance looks problematic.

    #754749
    Tuborg
    Participant

    No surprises here!

    Case Number 227368: Clancy Strand, Limerick

    Twenty-three appeals on Clancy Strand plan

    By ANNE SHERIDAN

    THE controversial proposal to build 41 apartments on Clancy Strand has been appealed to An Bord Pleanala by Thomond Archaeological and Historical Society.

    The group was one of some 23 individuals and societies that lodged objections with Limerick City Council’s planning department last year regarding the development, which surrounds the protected structure of Jackson’s Turret.

    In its appeal to the planning body, which was lodged on January 17, it states: “The society feels that the development is out of scale and character with the area in question.

    “While the original application to demolish Jackson’s Turret (now a protected structure) has been modified, the construction of such a large apartment block in such close proximity to this important 18th century house is undesirable.”

    Thomond Archaeological and Historical Society went on to state that the loss of two other historic buildings near Jackson’s Turret–Strandville and Curragour House–which are due to be demolished, was “regrettable”.

    The one-page appeal also states that“issues such as parking and traffic from the proposed building in that particular area also seem to use to have been given insufficient consideration”.

    Gerard Wall, the developer behind the €10m residential development, previously said: “I would fully expect it go to An Bord Pleanala, but the majority of the people on Clancy Strand are in favour of the development. We’ve done exactly what the planners have asked of us and they have endorsed the designs.”

    Mr Wall owns Jackson’s Turret and lives there with his family. He said the building will be fully restored–at a cost of €500,000–should the development proceed.

    Despite objections from numerous residents, the Irish Georgian Society and An Taisce, the development was given the go-ahead by city council earlier this month, with 23 conditions attached.

    An Bord Pleanala is expected to make a decision on the application by May 21.

    #754750
    Angus Scrimm
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    I agree dreamstate, an incoherent skyline could spoil the city especially along the waterfront. The image below is pretty much the present view as seen from the town hall. It’s right in the planners face and hope sincerely the future projects for the Arthur’s quay, ESB and Garda sites will harmonise the skyline! In my opinion the Riverpoint looks very well from it’s western side but it’s eastern side looks somewhat clumsy.

    That’s a lovely picture of Limerick – did you take it yourself? What’s planned for the ESB, Garda, Arthur’s Quay sites? Any links?

    #754751
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Lord Edward Street

    GVA Donal O Buachallaon the instructions of Limerick City Council are offering an excellent development site in a readily accessible location on the east side of Lord Edward Street, a short walk from O’Connell Street and train station, close to the People’s Park, ‘City Campus’; and all amenities.

    The property extends to approx. 1.3 ha. (3.2 acres) with approx. 55m frontage to Lord Edward Street in the heart of Limerick City.

    Strange that the City Council is already off loading this site in advance of the regeneration plan for Ballinacurra Weston. Would it not be wise to develop a new (Tait’s) street here linking Wolfe Tone Street to Hyde road?

    Angus Scrimm 😮 No I nicked the photo from flickr unfortunately I forgot to note the photographer:o. As for the waterfront sites it’s very much a waiting game.

    #754752
    Griff
    Participant

    Can anyone direct me to where I can see how the new Motorway to Dublin ties in with the existing roundabout beyond Finnegans restaurant – its impossible to work out where traffic coming down the Newport road will meet the roundabout .

    #754753
    Dreamstate
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    I agree dreamstate, an incoherent skyline could spoil the city especially along the waterfront. The image below is pretty much the present view as seen from the town hall. It’s right in the planners face and hope sincerely the future projects for the Arthur’s quay, ESB and Garda sites will harmonise the skyline! In my opinion the Riverpoint looks very well from it’s western side but it’s eastern side looks somewhat clumsy.

    Looks like the damage already appears to have been done!

    #754754
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Griff wrote:

    Can anyone direct me to where I can see how the new Motorway to Dublin ties in with the existing roundabout beyond Finnegans restaurant – its impossible to work out where traffic coming down the Newport road will meet the roundabout .

    This link does not reveal much detail as to the layout of the junction at Annacotty when it is finished next year. Why not give them a ring for more detailed information? By the way what is the difference between a motorway and a high quality dual carriageway (apart from speed limit and blue / green signage)?

    #754755
    Griff
    Participant

    this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Quality_Dual_Carriageway has a surprising amount of detail – in summary I think basically its an easier planning process for HQDC than motorway and you can travel on it after its built on a pony and trap…well thats my cynical take on it anyway.

    #754756
    Tuborg
    Participant

    Essentially a high quality dual carriageway is a motorway in all but name, ie. its built to motorway standards! The major reason why so many roads were initially planned or opened as HQDC’s was to appease local interests who might have been fearful of the dreaded M word. Now that the dust has settled a bit on the roads programme, the Dept of Transport are belatedly proposing a re-classification of a number of road schemes from HQDC to Motorway!:)

    This means that the Limerick to Nenagh road currently under construction should now open as a motorway, along with the Catletown to Nenagh Project, guaranteeing motorway standard road from Limerick to Naas (with HQDC from Naas to the M50) I have no doubt that when completed the Limerick Southern Ring will also be re-classified as a motorway!

    Dept of Transport Link

    #754757
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    New Pery gate is very, very stylish (Limerick Post)

    by Marie Hobbins

    Fifth park entrance built at cost of 100,000 euro.

    TWO notable occasions for Limerick Civic Trust to celebrate this Saturday and Sunday, mark milestone events in the diary of Limerick Civic Trust.

    A colourful celebration of the opening of an impressive new entrance to the People’s Park by Mayor Ger Fahy at 2pm on Sunday, will be attended by Sylvia, Countess of Limerick, and her son, Edmond, the seventh Earl of Limerick.

    The Pery Gate, located at the junction of Upper Mallow Street (Reeves Path) and the Boherbuoy access from Limerick Railway Station, has been completed in a record two months. The imposing and decorative corner entrance, estimated at a cost of 100,000 euro, is set to become another eyecatching city landmark.

    Recommended to Limerick City Council by Civic Trust director, Denis Leonard. last year, the project was in line with other upgrading works to the pavements outside the City Gallery, refurbishment of the main park entrance, the installation of 20 new benches (suitable for people with disabilities and the elderly), an upgrading of the park’s pavilion and band stand and a complete refurbishment of the old park kiosk.

    Mr Leonard’s reason for a new park entrance was that many visitors entering the park at Pery Square and heading for the rail and bus station were unaware that there was no nearby exit.

    He further contended that for people alighting from trains and buses at Colbert Station, a convenient entrance within viewing distance from the station, would encourage them to visit the park and the museum and enjoy all they have to offer.

    Designed by Seamus Carr Architects, from an outline sketch by the Limerick portrait artist and director of the National Gallery, Tom Ryan and constructed by McCarthy and Woulfe Builders, the new entrance is a forerunner to a 30 feet high obelisk that will detail 1,000 years of Limerick history.

    On Sunday, the Boherbuoy Brass and Reed Band will lead a distinguished gathering from the Pery entrance to the Bandstand, where they will entertain the gathering with a recital.

    On the evening before, to commemorate the 25th anniversary of Limerick Civic Trust, Minister O’Dea will launch a history of the Trust documented by its founder, Denis Leonard.

    Looks well, just hope this gem of a park does not get “overrun” as a short-cut between the railway station and Barrington Street? The junction of Parnell Street and Mallow Street where this new gate situated can be a hassle to crossover at times.

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