well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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@Dreamstate wrote:
I hear that O’Connor and Shanahan architects have put a submission to Limerick City Council looking to save Arthurs Quay Park. Anyone know anything about it?
No, but I would be also curious to hear what Murray and O’Laoire (architects of the Tourist Office / Arthur’s Quay Park) and Thompson’s (architects of the Arthur’s Quay Shopping Centre) have to say on the proposed plans for the Arthur’s Quay re-development.
The images (.pdf) in the “Draft City Centre Strategy†were poor in quality. It would great if the Limerick City Council would post the original images on their site. Maybe an international architectural competition for the Arthur’s Quay could produce the best result for the city.
Limerick City Matters Magazine
See article: Michael O’Malley’s Thomas Street Development
Below An artist’s impression of Thomas St. Centre
Limerick City Matters Magazine
See article: Dynamic Milk Market development to become six-day city attraction
Below An artist’s impression of Milk Market
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@CologneMike wrote:
No, but I would be also curious to hear what Murray and O’Laoire (architects of the Tourist Office / Arthur’s Quay Park) and Thompson’s (architects of the Arthur’s Quay Shopping Centre) have to say on the proposed plans for the Arthur’s Quay re-development.
The images (.pdf) in the “Draft City Centre Strategy” were poor in quality. It would great if the Limerick City Council would post the original images on their site. Maybe an international architectural competition for the Arthur’s Quay could produce the best result for the city.
Apparently Limerick City Council commissioned Nicholas de Jong & Associates to do the Draft City Centre Strategy. Having reviewed it , I would note that a huge amount of the Strategy is commendable .
The scary thing is that Mr. de Jongs meanderings on a page could become the foundation of future development plans!@Limerick Leader wrote:
Marks and Sparks to open in Limerick
AFTER years of speculation is was confirmed this Thursday afternoon that Marks & Spencer has agreed legal terms to open its first store in Limerick.
But the sad news is that they won’t be coming until autumn 2009.
The brand-new 110,000 sq ft flagship store is subject to planning permission and will be located in the Crescent Shopping Centre.
For the past 10 years there has been speculation as to whether or not the store, famous for its food hall, would come to Limerick, with the site of the George Hotel in the city centre, one of the sites previously mentioned.
“The store will open under Marks & Spencer’s signature style with contemporary interior design, bright lighting, easy to navigate walkways and spacious fitting rooms,” a spokesman for the company told the Limerick Leader.
It will include a wide range of fashion across womenswear, menswear and childrenswear, as well as home and furniture products.
The store will also boast a food hall offering a comprehensive range of M&S food and wine, which will be complemented by an M&S Café and a Deli Bar.
Jenny Mulholland, Head of Property Planning for Ireland at Marks & Spencer said, “We’re delighted to be opening our first store in Limerick. We’ve been searching for a suitable location for some time and are really pleased to have secured such a prime spot at The Crescent.
“We know that we already have many loyal customers in the Limerick area and we can’t wait to get started on their brand-new flagship store.”
http://www.limerickleader.ie/3419/Marks-and-Sparks-to-open.3516453.jp
They mention that it is subject to planning permission. I presume this means that they are going to extend the cresent shopping centre to accomodate it.
It could also mean a conglomeration of smaller units into a large anchor unit which would require planning or addition of an extra storey over existing units of half the size. There are many options.Too bad that people will need transport and parking to benefit from it though
@Bock the Robber wrote:
Just take one look at the standard of construction there.
@CologneMike wrote:
The state of the footpath at the entrance of the building-site was littered with burst bags of plaster-gypsum was an absolute disgrace. Residents of the Watergate Flats had to walk through this slippy white muck.
Oh dear, our old friend Ger Madden seems to be in the firing line again! He does seem to have quite an interest in this area, this is his third attempt at a development in the vicinity. Althought the first got crucified in the planning office and it appears he just lost interest in the other one (the derelict shell), hopefully the city council will pursue the developer for the costs of clearing that site.
A delve into the planning archives shows that Mr Madden is somewhat of a featherhead, there are 2 incompleted applications for his latest development and a further two for the abandoned shell. 4 incompleted applications in just 2 developments is a bit on the careless side I would say!:o I presume the building has been completed by now, or has it? Anyone got any up to date images of it?
CologneMike mentioned the poor construction practices in place and the general state of the footpaths in and around the site. I note then that the developer was clearly warned in advance about this in a condition as part of the grant of permission.
Prior to the commencement of development the applicant shall submit proposals to prevent the soiling of the public road during the construction phase of the proposed development.
With his previous record, its a wonder he got planning permission at all, he’s surely lost what little credibility he had left at this stage?
Full planning report here
What I find quite annoying about this part of the city is its piecemeal development, which has led to an incoherent planning mess. Many of the buildings here such as mungret court, tara cort and the watergate flats are all relatively new, yet they are ageing terribly and the whole area exudes an air of gloom and depression. I believe the draft city develpment plan or one of the recent reports has earmarked the area as suitable for the development of an urban village, with a mix of residential, retail, commercial and cultural developments. As it stands the city council have made a real balls of the regeneration attempt, the ideal solution would be to start over again.
Actually I passed through that way yesterday on my way to Georges Quay and the building in the post above looks pretty good now.
@Dreamstate wrote:
I hear that O’Connor and Shanahan architects have put a submission to Limerick City Council looking to save Arthurs Quay Park. Anyone know anything about it?
Dear Dreamstate,
Like most of all that happens around Limerick City you and me, Mr and Mrs public, are continuously being fed the proverbial mushroom treatment, (feed them bullshit and keep them in the dark)!!!. Look to the Opera Centre, anyone know of a commencement date? more importantly anyone seen any of the ‘New Plans’ ?. Guess not!, how strange!, this project is being hailed as the turning point in the retail development and consumer mecca of the City, yet, where are the plans to salivate over? Forgive me but, HARK,!!!!! Mr and Mrs Public know nothing! Best we can hope for is, droplets from the ‘Limk Post’ to keep us informed. Shame on you Limk Council, this is a an utter disgrace.
As for A.Quay, Dear Dreamstate, (so aptley named) if my theory is correct, 20 years from now, we will have another glass clad monstrosity or other buildings defacing Patrick St which wtll once again have to be [I]’pulled down’. [/I]Look around, there is not one building going up in and around Limerick that will stand the test of time. Who cares?, we live and admire the throw-away society, and this my firend is the chant of our Councils. Slap it up and see how it works, why should they care they are playing with ‘play dough’ what concerns me is, we have no say in the matter, You will never see plans for A.Quay (other than an artist impression which is given out with such seramony, that’s all we have for the Opera Centre, a 250mil euro developement that is going to transform our city , but guess what? ‘its a secret’
Fairy::rolleyes:
Article in the Limerick Leader about the new M+S at the Crescent shopping centre.
M&S to anchor new extension at the Crescent
LIMERICK’S first Marks and Spencer outlet will create a staggering 400 new jobs, it has been confirmed.
Last week the company announced plans to open a mammoth 110,000 square feet store as part of a proposed extension to the Crescent Shopping Centre in Dooradoyle.The store is due to open in the autumn of 2009, subject to planning permission.For the past 20 years speculation has been rife as to whether or not the UK retail giant, famous for its food hall, would come to Limerick.
A host of potential development sites in the city centre and elsewhere had previously been suggested, but the company have now agreed legal terms to anchor the planned new section of the Crescent.
Jenny Mulholland, Head of Property Planning for Ireland at Marks & Spencer, spoke of her delight at the prospect of finally opening a store in the city: “We’re thrilled to be opening our first store in Limerick. I have been searching for a suitable location for four years now, and we’ve seen countless presentations for various sites. But we’re delighted at the prospect of opening this store, which will be our biggest in the west of Ireland, at a location as successful as the Crescent.”
The flagship store will include a wide range of fashion across womenswear, menswear and childrenswear, as well as home and furniture products. It will also boast a large food hall offering a comprehensive range of M&S food and wine, which will be complemented by a café and a deli bar.
“The store will open under Marks & Spencer’s signature style with contemporary interior design, bright lighting, easy to navigate walkways and spacious fitting rooms,” Ms Mulholland added. “We know that we already have many loyal customers in the Limerick area and we can’t wait to get started on their brand-new flagship store.”
– By Gerard Fitzgibbon
Some more recent pictures of that Hannan development
Check out Page 2 of Limerick Leader City Edition this week ( Thursday 29th November )
It seems that some serious decisions are being made in the city
Also , Mr.Maddens building is what it is but its not the worst new building I’ve seen around the town.
@Dreamstate wrote:
I found this while surfin
some interesting issues raised
Georgian Heritage (O ’ C O N N O R + S H A N A H A N A R C H I T E C T S)
The adoption of a strategy to manage the change of this conservation area to adapt to the needs of the modern city.
THE GEORGIAN HOUSE
We made a quick analysis of the Georgian House and its evolution within the city.
The Georgian House was originally built as a residence with the service quarter of the building at the lower levels.
By the early 1900’s many of these buildings had been adapted to form flats on different levels.
The next adaptation of the building was the use of the lower levels for office space with flats still remaining overhead.
Today the offices remain in the lower levels of many of the buildings with empty space on the upper levels.
As more attractive office space is developed within the city the danger is that many of the current tenants or owners will relocate due to the restrictions in place in adapting the protected structures for modern day office needs.
We are basically asking the question what is the future for these buildings and have some suggestions as to what this might be.
GEORGIAN CHARACTER
Presently there are 59 buildings on O’Connell St. between Barrington St. and Glentworth St. Only 21 of these buildings currently have timber sash windows whether original or replacement.
If it were possible by tax incentive or through other means to encourage the owners of the remaining buildings with upvc or aluminium windows to replace them with timber sash windows it would make an instant, noticeable and attractive difference to the city’s streetscape. It would also reinstate the historic character of these buildings which has been lost at present.
Each Georgian building in turn has between 8 and 11 windows to the street façade. The conservative
estimate for replacing these windows would be between €16k and €22k per building.GEORGIAN SIGNAGE
A decision on signage within the Georgian area should also be reached given the number of unauthorised signs. We cannot get away from the fact that our Georgian core has ceased to be a residential area and its continued existence is dependent on businesses continuing to trade from here.
At present the matter of signage is extremely haphazard due to the difficulty in enforcement. We feel that stricter controls are necessary. The conservation ethos would be to prevent signage if at all possible or to restrict same to small plates of uniform size and style.
A balance needs to be reached as this part of the city adapts to its not so new role.
I like their idea that the rear yards of 4 Georgian blocks on O’Connell Street (i.e. “Belltable†block to “Clancy’s electrical shop†block) contain 4 floors of underground car parking. Would definitely facilitate the pedestrianisation of the city centre. Of course each surface on top of the underground car parks would be landscaped into gardens. Apart from the windows and the rear yards they don’t go into detail as to how the interior of these buildings could be restored.
The expected planning application for the further development of the Milk Market was submitted by the Limerick market trustees in the past week!
07450
Description; The erection of a tensile structure in the central courtyard, development of a mezzanine floor within the courtyard incorporating a restaurant at upper level and permanent stall units at ground level, the construction of restaurant kitchen and associated service areas within the market house and adjacent units, the conversion of existing office unit in the market building into a permanent stall unit and the development of two stall units and bin store area on the public footpath Mungret Court adjacent to the Market Buildings. The Milk Market is a protected structure (RPS 049)
Address; Milk Market Mungret Street Limerick
Bus station timetable faces delay
Limerick Chronicle By Anne Sheridan
PLANS to bring Colbert Station into the 21st century will be held up until April of next year, as Limerick City Council have refused planning permission :confused:for a massive redevelopment of the bus and train station.
Bus Eireann have now appealed the decision to An Bord Pleanala, who are expected to reach a decision on the development by April 2 of next year.In their submission to the planning authority, Bus Eireann state that the proposed new station, which would connect with the 19th century station, is necessary for passenger safety and improved efficiency.
Under the ambitious €1m plans, the bus station would move from the right to the left hand side of the current station and the existing bus station would be converted into a car park. A new two storey bus station, plans to remove redundant rail tracks, a public car park to the north and west of the site, are also indicated.
A landscaped garden is planned for the front of the station, where a car park is currently situated. An internal walkway would also connect the rail and bus station, providing greater easy of mobility for customers.
At the time the planning application was lodged with the city council, Erica Roseingrave, a spokesperson for Bus Eireann, said the company were “looking at a truly 21st century facility.”
Two years of construction work are anticipated if the plans are given the green light by An Bord Pleanala next year.
Healy & Partners Architects
This Limerick City Centre office over commercial infill development necessitated demolition and partial retention of the original structures at 103 / 104 O’Connell Street. A new contemporary facade contrasts the strong Georgian context while continuing the rhythm and proportion of the surrounding streetscape through the defined geometries and alignments of the polished sandstone cladding.
This urban infill redevelopment of the former GPO Site on Henry Street, Limerick involves the restoration and integration of 2 protected structures (1903 Mercantile Building and remains of the 1808 Hanging Gardens building) into a new multi-storey, mixed use, development. The retained structures and lower commercial levels frame an enclosed public courtyard while the over sailing office blocks form a backdrop to the listed buildings on the street edge.
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From the current CIS report….
CO. LIMERICK – GRANTED
SHOPPING CENTRE, ‘THE OPERA CENTRE’, (BOGUES YARD) ELLEN STREET/PATRICK STREET, BANK PLACE, MICHAEL STREET, LIMERICKWork is expected to commence in spring/summer 2008 on the €250 million ‘The Opera Centre’ shopping centre complex in Co. Limerick.
Planning permission was granted for the construction of a four-storey development with a gross floor area of 27,870 sq.m. and will be located on a 3.24 ha. site at (Bogues Yard) Ellen Street/Patrick Street, Bank Place and Michael Street in Limerick. Upon completion, the development will be one of the largest city-centre shopping complexes in the country.
Work is expected to take in the region of 18 months to complete. It has yet to be decided how a Main Contractor will be appointed.
According to recent newspaper reports the new consortium may be likely to go back to the planning department for a further expansion of the proposed development. The newspaper also reports that the project will create 1,200 jobs on completion. Mr. Jerry O’Reilly, the owner of The Granary and Cahill May Roberts in Limerick is understood to be one of the developers in the new consortium.
According to recent newspaper reports this development is attracting attention from Brown Thomas and House of Fraser to take space at the development when completed as Anchor Tenant.
Site area: 3.24 ha.
Floor area: 27870 sq.m. Storeys: 4
Contract: 18 Months Value: €250 Million
Start
Spring/Summer 2008 End
Late 2009/Early 2010
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