well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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- February 14, 2008 at 9:12 pm #754758
Griff
ParticipantI assume also that HQDC are in place say in the example of the N18 Limerick to (eventually) Galway. There is no alternative route for slow vehicles , L drivers etc to take so this route will stay as a HQDC with the 100kph restriction. In saying that – I use the Fermoy bypass quite regularly travelling from Limerick to the east side of Cork city… and to my knowledge there are no big signs like you had on the motorway near Naas saying who can and who cant use the route. On a totally differenet point – was in Thomond park today..things seem to have really slowed down there since Christmas… I suppose they have plenty of time before the Heineken cup for next year..but you’d think theyd like to be finished sooner rather than later..
February 15, 2008 at 9:20 am #754759Dreamstate
Participant@CologneMike wrote:
Looks well, just hope this gem of a park does not get “overrun†as a short-cut between the railway station and Barrington Street? The junction of Parnell Street and Mallow Street where this new gate situated can be a hassle to crossover at times.
WOW, It looks like its been there for 100 years!!
February 15, 2008 at 11:06 am #754760scitilop
Participant@CologneMike wrote:
Looks well, just hope this gem of a park does not get “overrun†as a short-cut between the railway station and Barrington Street? The junction of Parnell Street and Mallow Street where this new gate situated can be a hassle to crossover at times.
Wasn’t there an elaborate sculpture planned originally for this site, when it was being referred to as the Pery Portal?
Also, I’d be delighted to see it being used as a short cut between Barrington Street an the Railway Station – it is such a beautiful way to walk through the city and more people should enjoy it.
February 15, 2008 at 9:54 pm #754761Anonymous
Inactive@politics wrote:
Wasn’t there an elaborate sculpture planned originally for this site, when it was being referred to as the Pery Portal?
Also, I’d be delighted to see it being used as a short cut between Barrington Street an the Railway Station – it is such a beautiful way to walk through the city and more people should enjoy it.
That’s my point, if you see this new entrance as the shortest distance between two points, then it could just become a pedestrianised way for people like you dashing daily criss-cross through the park on their way to shop, work etc. It would spoil this beautiful small relaxed green oasis for everybody else. More access here could mean less urban quality.
February 15, 2008 at 10:04 pm #754762Anonymous
InactiveKing’s Island / Thomondgate
A trawl through Rooney’s und GVA Donal O Buachalla Auctioneers show 3 interesting sites for development.
(Rooney’s) Development site with planning permission in place for commercial unit on ground floor with 13 apartments on first/second/third/fourth floors. Magnificent location overlooking River Shannon/Thomond Bridge. Site comprises of the former “Treaty Bar“(Kielys) and 27 and 28 Old Thomondgate.
Amazing that this site above is now nearly two years in limbo.

(Rooney’s) Development site comprising of vacant site & adjacent 2 storey house and adjacent former licensed premises known as “The Bridge Barâ€. The property comprises of a vacant site at the junction of Bridge Street with Georges Quay, Limerick and two adjacent buildings – i.e. the former “Bridge Bar†and the adjoining two storey red brick house between this site and “The Locke Barâ€. Total site area is circa 0.177 ha. (0.043 acres) – approx. 1,900 sq.ft.
Would be good to see above more public houses / restaurants return here.
(GVA Donal O Buachalla) Mary Street, high profile city centre location suited to a highdensity commercial / residential development scheme, subject to planning permission.
Image below.
February 15, 2008 at 11:28 pm #754763Tuborg
Participant@CologneMike wrote:
King’s Island / Thomondgate
Amazing that this site above is now nearly two years in limbo.
Another one that slipped through the net! This is the site of what is currently the treaty bar, the plan is to replace it with apartments and ground floor commercial, the two adjacent houses are also to be demolished. I really dont see the logic behind this planning decision, that building is poorly designed and totally out of character with the area, personally I think it has the potential to do more damage than the nearby Jacksons turret proposal. This is a very sensitive location on Thomond bridge and opposite the treaty stone and Saint Munchins church and its going to be severely compromised just so some developer can line his pockets, what a load of rubbish!:mad:
Belew is the current state of play, photo from irishlaporte
February 16, 2008 at 11:48 am #754764johnglas
ParticipantCologneMike: As a non-resident, I’m loathe to intervene, but you cannot preserve parks as an ‘oasis’ if by that you mean used by you and three other people and the usual raft of ‘undesirables’ who have made many parks no-go areas. Urban parks are not natural! They are intended to be used by the general public. What better than contemplating the park when rushing for the train and even lingering of a summer’s evening or a winter’s day, or if you’re too early/late for the train. It could even have a cafe (shock, horror!) and encourage people to use it as a rendezvous. The glass is always half-full.
February 16, 2008 at 5:37 pm #754765Anonymous
Inactive@johnglas wrote:
CologneMike: As a non-resident, I’m loathe to intervene, but you cannot preserve parks as an ‘oasis’ if by that you mean used by you and three other people and the usual raft of ‘undesirables’ who have made many parks no-go areas. Urban parks are not natural! They are intended to be used by the general public. What better than contemplating the park when rushing for the train and even lingering of a summer’s evening or a winter’s day, or if you’re too early/late for the train. It could even have a cafe (shock, horror!) and encourage people to use it as a rendezvous. The glass is always half-full.
The glass is always half-full.:confused: Then…………… Sláinte! Cheers! Prost! or whatever you’re drinking!
February 16, 2008 at 5:37 pm #754766Tuborg
ParticipantHeres another perspective on the treaty bar development, I must say it looks even better in colour! Curiously there are very few renders floating around, hmmmm I wonder why!:rolleyes:
February 16, 2008 at 5:44 pm #754767Anonymous
Inactive@Tuborg wrote:
Another one that slipped through the net! This is the site of what is currently the treaty bar, the plan is to replace it with apartments and ground floor commercial, the two adjacent houses are also to be demolished. I really dont see the logic behind this planning decision, that building is poorly designed and totally out of character with the area, personally I think it has the potential to do more damage than the nearby Jacksons turret proposal. This is a very sensitive location on Thomond bridge and opposite the treaty stone and Saint Munchins church and its going to be severely compromised just so some developer can line his pockets, what a load of rubbish!:mad:
Looks like the owner had never serious intentions of re-developing the pub himself and just went through the motions of the planning process to get the maximum price for his property. The whole row of houses, with their ‘arses’ to the river are quite a sight!:eek: Maybe the Limerick City Council should acquire the whole row, demolish them and extend the river promenade over them? Pity that they blew € 83 million on a € 10 million sewerage pipe, can’t be too much left in the kitty.
Any ideas yourself?
February 16, 2008 at 6:11 pm #754768Tuborg
Participant@CologneMike wrote:
Looks like the owner had never serious intentions of re-developing the pub himself and just went through the motions of the planning process to get the maximum price for his property. The whole row of houses, with their ‘arses’ to the river are quite a sight!:eek: Maybe the Limerick City Council should acquire the whole row, demolish them and extend the river promenade over them? Pity that they blew € 83 million on a € 10 million sewerage pipe, can’t be too much left in the kitty.
Any ideas yourself?
Fair enough, the houses backing onto the river do look a bit haphazard, I see one resident has his/her clothes hung out to dry aswell! Not a bad place to live though in fairness, the views of the castle must be nice! The thing is though, given a choice between maintaining the status quo or letting that hideous apartment block destroy the area, I think I could live with the houses, arses and all!
Your suggestion of a riverside promenade would be a much better option but sadly I think the quayside from Thomond bridge to Shannon bridge marks the limit of Limerick City Councils ambition, at least for now !
February 16, 2008 at 6:17 pm #754769Anonymous
InactiveCoonagh Court Ennis Road

http://www.chesser.ie/Brochure.asp?prop_id=1178&AgID=103&searchoption=1
(Chesser) A five-storey state of the art mixed development comprising of ground floor retail, units from c.152.6m2 – 554m2 and office space from 208.8m2. The development will boast high quality frontage and ample car parking.
Anyone know where exactly this office development is?
Any actual images from the Park Point development on the Dublin Road about?
February 16, 2008 at 9:18 pm #754770johnglas
ParticipantCologneMike: ‘The glass is always half-full.’ It was irony – being translated: don’t always look on the dark side of life.
February 17, 2008 at 4:31 pm #754771Griff
ParticipantHeres a few Park Point pics from today- sorry about quality – camera phone job!!!
February 17, 2008 at 6:20 pm #754772Anonymous
Inactive@Griff wrote:
Heres a few Park Point pics from today- sorry about quality – camera phone job!!!



Griff, thanks!!! Well the scaffolding is coming down. I wonder what the general reaction around to it so far?
February 17, 2008 at 8:38 pm #754773Griff
Participantthanks for sorting out my tech difficulties putting up those photos – you might explain how its down – I just yhought I had to put in the flickr url !! I think Park point looks better from the west – as you go down the hill towards the college. From Castletroy it looms up large and cuts the horizon – a little bit like the surrealist’s door in the sky – Montparnasse tower– but on the much smaller scale.
February 17, 2008 at 10:56 pm #754774Anonymous
Inactive@Griff wrote:
thanks for sorting out my tech difficulties putting up those photos – you might explain how its down – I just yhought I had to put in the flickr url !! I think Park point looks better from the west – as you go down the hill towards the college. From Castletroy it looms up large and cuts the horizon – a little bit like the surrealist’s door in the sky – Montparnasse tower– but on the much smaller scale.
You inserted the url of the flickr page. To get the url of the image just click the magnify button “all sizes†on the flickr page first, then select any size and position your cursor on the image, click right side of the mouse and open the characteristics and you will see the url that ends with.jpg
February 18, 2008 at 10:55 am #754775Irishjon25
ParticipantRight you are folks.
Here is a picture of the city taken during the 50’s. Only by looking at this can one appreciate the amount of devolopment which has occured since.
February 18, 2008 at 1:27 pm #754776Griff
ParticipantExcellent photograph! can just see Limerick’s first roundabout at Landsdowne park at the top of the picture.
February 18, 2008 at 4:05 pm #754777Anonymous
InactiveIt also shows that Arthur’s Quay park isn’t land, and the problems associated in terms of developing it.
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