GregF
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@phil wrote:
If you look back the thread a bit there is information provided by a few others as to what happened to the church. An awful pity, but I am not sure it is fair to blame An Taisce for its demise (And perhaps it was not the then Corporation’s fault either).
oh indeed I remember the Church as it stood in a sorry but somewhat intact state before it was vandalized and set alight in the 80’s.
How the Protestant Church, St. Catherines on Thomas Street never suffered a similar fate is incredible as it stood idle, neglected and vandalized for over 30 years before some local religious and community group showed initiative and revitalized it. Pity about that other fine Protestant/Methodist Church on Merrion Square/Fenian Street that suffered a similar fate of neglect and vandalism before it was ruthlessly gutted and transformed into the O’Callaghan Davenport Hotel. The arcitectural merits of such Protestant Church’s in Dublin city centre greatly overlooked.@johnglas wrote:
GregF: sympathetic to some of what you say, but there’s no need to hate yourself, fellow professionals, your city and your country in general quite so much! With friends like you, who needs enemies?
Oi, ye little cheeky bastard!
U don’t know me!
For I have a great love for my city!
BTW, I’m no friend of yours !
What the developers done here is appalling! And the glass block proposal is so fucking awful! Probably think that they are doing what Sam Stephenson appallingly done to the Art Deco former EBS building on Westmoreland Street or Norman Foster done to the Reichstag in Berlin. (At least the Baroque jewel, the Reichstag was firebombed and blitzed) We have seen this type of treatment of merging old with new umpteen times before. If these boys think that this treatment is original, how indifferent they are, for this is just a copy and paste job and rather lazy really! It will look as bad as that Ulster Bank complex on George Dock with the old classical pillars framing the entrance. Developer/Architect idiots like these have no appreciation of classical architecture, as demonstrated here. What do they learn in college at all?
Despite the Celtic Tiger, architectural awareness, etc… a certain Irish thickness still remains!
The neglect and abuse of such a fine old architectural feature on this street is incredible. Ye’d never see this happening abroad today. Imagine this happening in Italy, France, or Spain’s old cities! Britain, definitely yes!
Does the old stigma still remain today that because it was a Presbyterian Church that the half wits at the Corpo neglected it and let it fall into disrepair!
The fine old charming buildings of Dublin are still disappearing right before of our eyes. Where was An Taisce to raise concerns about the fate of this particular building. Too busy meddling with the high profile proposals down the docks or Ballsbridge. There will be hardly any old buildings left in Dublin city that will remain untouched and intact, everthing will have the mark of being botched or abused! Dublin City will eventually look like a suburb with it’s historical core of fine stone and brick buildings gone, replaced with concrete, PVC, suburban type shite!
Anyone see the appalling one/two storey surburban school building that they built on Sean McDermot Street just around the corner from the Gresham Hotel and O’Connell Street. Yer man O’Rourke who was responsible for the rebuilding of O’Connell Street after the 1916 Rising is no doubt rolling in his grave when he sees the likes of this shite and some of the half-wits that class themselves as urban architects, planners and developers.
@Pilear wrote:
my only major problem with this scheme now is its treatment of henry street. if they want facadism on oconnell street its not causing much harm but wiping out yet more of the Henry streets historic character is uneneccesary and harmful to the streetscape of one of our main shopping (tourist?)routes.
I agree. Henry Street will be gutted. It is totally unneccessary to bluntly break the uniformity of the street.
BTW, the way things are going there will be hardly anything left in Dublin city that remains in an authentic architectural state, unlike other cities throughout the world. The botchers have their way here in Ireland!
@jimg wrote:
I’m uncomfortable with the destruction of a complete victorian terrace on Henry Street. Replacing such buildings with more modern ones has never resulted in an improvement to this street in my opinion and I don’t expect this to be any different.
I agree. This will definitly be the end of the old Moore St, for the new proposal will wipe away the old street format. Those slab facades of the new proposal look absolutely horrible, and will look even worse within the enclosed little street and as they age and weather with time. The removal of this whole terrace is kinda a bit like the demolishment of the terrace on Fitzwilliam Street. The architects have got it wrong here and it’s rather incredible how they could do it too. I’m sure they thought it was a marvellous improvement as well when developers first built the ILAC Centre and look how that ended up. It’s similar bland and blank appearance looked equally as horrible.
But still it’s a huge devlopment and must be welcomed as well as the Arnotts proposals to breathe life into this part of the Street/City. I was in the Oval pub one day and heared tourists asking where were the shopping precincts. These new developments will help answer such queries in future!
Ah the tree looks cool, it blends in with the contemporary look of the street,…. ie the new paving and accessories.
Any one see the jazzy new Xmas tree that they are constructing on the GPO plaza. Looks contemporary, made outta lights on a steel frame. No pine needles!
I wonder will they put the rustic crib there again. It will be a clash of styles if they do!
I bet the public folk will give out about the new tree, as they do!
Those rendered images look well and the scheme looks ok overall, given the existing look of the docks and DDDA style!
Folk shouldn’t be expecting too much!
The Tower will be a welcome change (if built) and addition to the uniform drab skyline.
Something to locate the docks and new O2 theatre, a good landmark !
Maybe the way to go is to burrow into the earth with people living underground. Just 2 storeys or bungalow style above ground and 20, 30, 40 or more below. That way, the very sensitive folk and the very elderly won’t be so offended by tall buildings!
Our towns and cities would look so much better, and rather unique too! All that low level uniformity, pure bliss……. ahem!
Check this out , the rendered stadium looks superb in the footage. I hope it will look as good when finished.
Great photos…….didn’t the uniformity of the street look so much better too when compared to now. The park that’s there today with the overgrown wild plants looks a bit shit as well as the piecemeal developments across the dual carriageway road. The charm and character that surrounded Christchurch has been long lost. It’s a great pity Dublin became so poor, even a greater pity we had an appaling history and everything suffered!
I saw this on the news tonight and I thought that it didn’t really look that attractive. Kinda looks similar to the ‘tower’ that they are going to build at the Point in Dublin.
Both look like rudimentary towers really, nothing great. A first for Ireland, but old hat for the rest of the world!
