Eglinton Street Tower, Cork
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Ha! I know what you mean Leesider, thought it was cooool. (I know the lighting was probably a bit kitsch, but I still like it).
The roof colour changes over time, and the spire lighting is animated. Guess it was a “dry” run for the official launch?
I saw this on the news tonight and I thought that it didn’t really look that attractive. Kinda looks similar to the ‘tower’ that they are going to build at the Point in Dublin.
Both look like rudimentary towers really, nothing great. A first for Ireland, but old hat for the rest of the world!
@Hafez wrote:
Might be a good oppurtunity to put a starbucks in there seeing as there are no others in the city.
that about sums up the attitude to architecture on this forum
Why do people have to put the Elysian down all the time?To me,while there may be some flaws such as the white cylindrical tower piece and the dank panelling on the west side, is still a welcome addition to the city’s skyline.
Considering the bland tripe being built in the dublin docklands and being proposed in kennedy quay we should be appreciating this development and be encouraging new developments to show similar uniqueness. I don’t know how some people get off on critiscising the Elysian when there is nothing else bettering it in terms of design (that is on a similar scale) in the city or even in the entire country.
@demolition man wrote:
Why do people have to put the Elysian down all the time?To me,while there may be some flaws such as the white cylindrical tower piece and the dank panelling on the west side, is still a welcome addition to the city’s skyline.
Considering the bland tripe being built in the dublin docklands and being proposed in kennedy quay we should be appreciating this development and be encouraging new developments to show similar uniqueness. I don’t know how some people get off on critiscising the Elysian when there is nothing else bettering it in terms of design (that is on a similar scale) in the city or even in the entire country.
It’s the best of a bad lot eh?
I accept the Elysian as an everyday, run of the mill buildind design. It should never have been put out there as the “best of Irish”.
It is a nice block of apartments with shops underneath, nothing more, nothing less.I wonder will they get the footfall on those street fronts? the link is fairly offputting to pedestrians… i guess its a good measure for future cork-spansion towards the docklands, but hardly a social street…
If the Docklands is to be integrated into the city centre, there will be a lot of work needed on making the streets in between more pedestrian friendly. Clontarf St and Eglinton St don’t need to be 3 lane, so 2 lane with better footpaths will do. Lapp’s Quay (the bit outside Connolly Hall, not outside the Clarion) needs upgrading with most of the parking removed. Albert Quay also needs a good bit of work done; possibly a lane could bre removed, but more important would be cleaning up the quayside area. I’m not sure much could be done about Albert St (which accounts for most of the retail space in the Elysian); it’s a very important traffic artery and there isn’t much spare space going around.
i agree with you, its just that given current government fear of spending (although they still seem to be going ahead with a 3.7 billion metro in Dublin0, we will be doing well to get the docklands up and running at all – arent the government trying to get funds from the EU and be allowed break the restrictions on borrowing rule?
No sign yet of a decision on the bridge to go from over by Pairc Ui Chaoimh to the skew bridge, was due months ago
The Dublin Metro is actually PPP, so it doesn’t cost the DoF any money in the short term. The whole PPP scheme is a bit of a scam though, because it’s a way of borrowing without it appearing on the balance sheet. And we’re all seeing what keeping liabilities of your balance sheet can do at the moment.
Reducing road space for traffic is a retrograde step IMHO. It’s very difficult to increase that space once you’ve done it and we have no idea how bad traffic will be once the Docklands is under construction and when it’s finished. Need all the roadspace we can get to be honest.
That said, you’re dead right about upgrading the pedestrian links in those (and other areas). Just think a way needs to be found without creating traffic problems. e.g. On Blackrock Rd outside Tellengana House, the Council have just put in a bus shelter. Good move, obviously. However, they also doubled the size of the footpath at the same time (to no obvious benefit) which means buses can’t actually pull in anymore and will block the road every time they stop.
You can’t improve the pedestrian links without taking up some space from the road. Lapp’s Quay should be fairly uncontroversial as nobody uses it as a through road anyway.
If you look at Clontarf St, nobody uses the right hand lane. It would end up with you doing circuits of Parnell Place and Lower Oliver Plunkett St – great for kerb crawlers, but not that useful for the vast majority of citizens. Having two lanes on Clontarf St, one for turning left at the end and one for turning right would suffice. You’ve also got to take into account that there are only two lanes leading into it from Clontarf Bridge (the rightmost lane is for Merchant’s Quay traffic only), so it will never require the volume provided by three lanes. Finally, if you think where traffic is coming from and going to,
Eglinton St may be a different issue with the City Hall car park and the entrance to the Elysian car park in addition to standard traffic flows. But, it’s not as critical as the others anyway.
To be honest, we need to get away from the amount of parking space and road space given over to cars in Cork city centre. After the building of the South Ring, it should have become more about a space for people to live, work and socialise in and less about getting cars through. The only cars that need to drive through the city centre are ones that have it as their destination or that are travelling from the Northside to the Southside of the city and vice versa.
i was just in the elysian for a look, the 1 beds are a bit cramped but the others are fabulous – prob still a little pricey but the show apartments are seriously good especially the dual aspect for 545k and ones in the tower for 1.35m – if you have that kind of money why not
@Pug wrote:
i was just in the elysian for a look, the 1 beds are a bit cramped but the others are fabulous – prob still a little pricey but the show apartments are seriously good especially the dual aspect for 545k and ones in the tower for 1.35m – if you have that kind of money why not
Which of the two are you shelling out for Pugmeister me old china? Or are you buying one of each.
obviously i bought one of each – it was when i heard that there was good storage space in the basement as well if you wanted it for your apartment, but the storage would also cost 10,000, i was a bit miffed
they are finished really really well, surround sound speakers wired in the ceiling, mood lighting and all that stuff
The kitchen designed by Porsche is unbelievable, in both looks and cost (€149k – for a kitchen!)
the 545k ones are really fab to be fair
:eek:noticed the building along with county hall was lit up all over the jazz weekend. As a friend who was visiting cork for the first time pointed out it looks like a brothel lit up. What a monstosity we have created glass all one side and plastic the other 3. Shame on you Michael O flynn you had the oppertunity to build something wonderful and you built a joke. And before you criticise my opinion I recently had the pleasure of visiting a real city, Miami, and what wonderful buildings they have. Pity our developers are so incompetant and anal. In the words of a great man ‘I pity the fool’ who is dumb enough to waste money on moving into an over priced sticklebrick compound that will no doubt be ripped down in 20 years when we all come to our senses. And before people have a go I was very excited about this project considering I love high rises and as far as I’m concerned the more highrises the better but for goodness sake at least build them right and make them look good. The atlantic quarter has alot of potential but should we be so lucky that it gets built????? Not in our lifetime I expect. All I’ll say is Mr. O Flynn you f**ked up.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but if you’re going to be so vitriolic it least get your most basic of facts right. Owen O’Callaghan has nothing to do with the Elysian, it was Michael O’Flynn.
Atlantic Quarter is scheduled to break ground next year. Sorry to hear your life expectancy is so short.
@Angry Rebel wrote:
You’re entitled to your opinion, but if you’re going to be so vitriolic it least get your most basic of facts right. Owen O’Callaghan has nothing to do with the Elysian, it was Michael O’Flynn.
Atlantic Quarter is scheduled to break ground next year. Sorry to hear your life expectancy is so short.
Hear here !
If you are going to have a rant at least get some fact correct.
Jeez the quality of posters in here has gone down like the stock market.
yeah, come on, get your facts right. I think the Elysian is great for Cork, its a massive punt taken by Michael O’ Flynn, sets a whole new market. The insides are absolutely stunning, even if I will never afford it (and if I had that money, I would have the villa in Italy or France first I think). Silly prices but a great idea, certainly beats having a giant sorting office there.
As for Docklands, all it would have taken was €60m for that bridge and a kick up the rear to CIE to get the Masterplan for Horgans Quay. Imagine, if someone had managed Cork Airports building properly, there would have been €60m for that bridge. What a waste.
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