O’ Connell Street, Dublin
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- September 18, 2008 at 2:43 pm #731147
onegallant
ParticipantIs it possible to get pre-1916 plans of the internal layout the Freeman’s Journal, Evening Telegraph and Weekly Sport complex in Princes Street / Abbey Street?
Eamonn.September 18, 2008 at 2:54 pm #731148notjim
Participant@onegallant wrote:
Is it possible to get pre-1916 plan of the internal layout the Freeman’s Journal, Evening Telegraph and Weekly Sport complex in Princes Street / Abbey Street?
Eamonn.as a tattoo?
September 18, 2008 at 6:38 pm #731149fergalr
ParticipantLike in Prison Break?
September 20, 2008 at 1:59 am #731150onegallant
ParticipantIs it possible to get pre-1916 plan of the internal layout the Freeman’s Journal, Evening Telegraph and Weekly Sport complex in Princes Street / Abbey Street?
October 1, 2008 at 12:39 pm #731151Anonymous
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The scaffold is down on the upper facade of the ulster bank & it looks great, (screen grab does nothing for it but had no camera with me when i passed)
anyway looking forward to seeing the finihsed job.
October 1, 2008 at 1:06 pm #731152GrahamH
ParticipantYep the Portland looks especially well in real life. Very creamy. Concerns about the level of soiling still evident on the pediment. The Custom House had industrial activity swarming around it for 200 years and they got every scrap of dirt off.
The concealed lighting thus far is also, well concealed – hurrah! I had reservations about all these LED strips scattered about the facade drawings.Alas the windows have not been returned to their 1920s appearance. This is a growing issue on O’Connell Street: in spite of all its designations and various plans, there are no design guidelines, recommended palettes of materials or specified decorative finishes drawn up for the thoroughfare other than shopfront guidelines. Whereas the white windows in this instance are perfectly pleasant, it would have given the building an extra touch of elegance to have charcoal or grey painted fenestration as was originally the case. There seems to be little appreciation for the 1920s ensemble of Lower O’Connell Street and part of the Upper street – not least as as evidenced in the recent Penneys decision – that while derivative, makes for a coherent and attractive streetscape that exudes a sense of civic pride and importance beyond that of pretty much every other street in the city.
October 3, 2008 at 1:16 pm #731153ctesiphon
ParticipantPhoto taken 01.x.08, 1:10 pm:

My suspicion is that pedestrians crossing from OCBridge to OCStreet align themselves with the OCS footpath (I was standing on the kerb edge).
If this doesn’t demonstrate a case for widening the footpaths on the bridge, I don’t know what else might.
(Maybe if I could produce evidence of the Aircoach drivers who drive up the hatched area [taxi ‘rank’] and bully their way into the adjacent lane? Leave it with me.)October 3, 2008 at 1:18 pm #731154markpb
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
If this doesn’t demonstrate a case for widening the footpaths on the bridge, I don’t know what else might.
It might have been an option if the council hadn’t put the taxi rank there. I suspect any attempt to remove the rank (without replacing it) will result in more taxi drivers blocking bus stops and bus lanes like outside Connolly.
October 3, 2008 at 1:55 pm #731155igy
ParticipantWhy not do it anyway?
We need a good scandal, it’s been a while 🙂October 3, 2008 at 2:04 pm #731156missarchi
Participantwhat they are proposing for metro north here is half baked for the footpath
October 3, 2008 at 6:00 pm #731157ctesiphon
Participantmarkpb- the space was there long before the taxi rank. The depressing thing is that it was thought by someone – presumably in DCC, maybe the Guards too – that this space could best be used as a taxi rank. That just demonstrates a complete lack of vision, as far as I’m concerned, and illustrates the… – is contempt too strong a word? – for pedestrians in this city.
I see no reason not to remove the rank. The matter of taxis parking illegally elsewhere is an enforcement issue. The current state of affairs on O’Connell Bridge is hardly the appropriate solution to that problem.
October 3, 2008 at 10:51 pm #731158GrahamH
ParticipantSimply another example of Luas holding up matters. But now that Metro is also in the works, there”s no way anything is going to be done with the bridge in the short term. It’s a shame that the simple moving out of the kerbstones and the pouring of a coloured asphalt isn’t even on the cards as an interim measure. It could have been done years ago.
Incidentally the taxi brigade are clearly not satisfied with occupying both the bridge and the median of the Upper street. I have now been solicited for trade – alas of the transport variety – along here no less than four times in as many weeks. The fact that I may look utterly bewildered on my travels through the city is entirely irrelevant – it’s bad enough having the median commandeered by taxis without being hailed by chaps lying against their car doors as an additional statement of their presence here.
October 4, 2008 at 9:16 am #731159missarchi
Participantwe are swapping a taxi rank for a bus stop…
I find it strange they can show tactile tiles in minute detail but no bike lanes…
integrated transport under the NDP… makes you wonder about the future
this bridge needs a special treatment of some sortOctober 7, 2008 at 3:32 pm #731160Alek Smart
ParticipantIt would be quite easy and affordable to extend the current footpath line outwards on the bridge as shown in ctesiphon`s photo.
If you look closely at the Taxi Rank markings u can see how it is only a small stretch of the carriageway actually marked as a Rank,the remainder is useless ( In the Irish context) cross-hatching.Therefore extending the Kerbline would make it a safer environment for pedestrians whilst also physically preventing Taxidrivers from shooting-up the inside to gain advantage at the traffic signals.
As for the Aircoach Northbound trajectory,this is a recurring and worsening problem which is afflicting all traffic crossing the bridge.
However when performing this in a Bus or Coach the effects and resultant dangers are magnified greatly.I am currently embroiled in a crusade (of sorts) to spread the word to Bus and Coach drivers that BOTH straight-ahead marked lanes on Westmoreland St Can be utilised by them to align with the relevant lanes on O Connell Bridge itself and thence O Connell St.
There is a tendency,amongst Aircoach staff particularly,to insist on using the left hand straight ahead lane only when leaving Westmoreland St then making a severe right hand lane correction ON THE BRIDGE to gain access to the outer lane on O Connell St (This OCS outer lane positioning is perfectly acceptable as Aircoach and many Bus Atha Cliath routes do not stop again on OCS until well beyond the Spire crossing.)
The problem appears to stem from a difference of opinion at Instruction level whereby Drivers are recommended to stay in the left straight ahead lane until clear of Westmoreland St.
The key to successfully negotiating the Bridge for a Bus or Coach driver is to get out early from the Westmoreland St stops and then make full use of ALL straight-ahead marked lanes of which the outer is usually clear as traffic turning Right off OCB moves quite rapidly over to the right-turn lanes as marked on the bridge.The other simple solution to the “shoot up the inside” problem is to erect floppy poles OR extend the footpath on OCB at the Aston Quay junction also !!
This debate may well however by totally academic as Mr Dempsey`s remarks as reported in todays meejia don`t exactly amount to a ringing endorsement of Metro North or indeed of Transport21 itself………”It`ll be a great project in 2 to 3 years”……. Nurse !! The screens please….Noel is having a moment !! 😮
October 17, 2008 at 8:57 am #731161urbanisto
ParticipantGet yer camera out Graham….all the scafolding is down. What a difference to the drab facade of a few weeks ago/
October 17, 2008 at 11:11 am #731162Anonymous
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Certainly stands out, though on a street where no other facade has been cleaned in the last 15+? years with the exception of the GPO, that wouldn’t be hard.
October 17, 2008 at 11:49 am #731163urbanisto
ParticipantMy main issue with the new Ulster Bank is the central window which I think looks a little fussy. The detailing of the reliefs over the side entrances also looks weak. Generally however I really like the finsihed result, It lifts the building so effectively. It will probably look much better when it weather a bit as well.
October 30, 2008 at 2:36 pm #731164icyicy
ParticipantI have a query regarding the potential of creating a modern extension to a church on Upper o’ connell street dublin. Does anyone know if the Church of st. thomas and st. george is listed and what is the potential of such an extension ? ( 1 storey glazed porch extension).
October 30, 2008 at 4:29 pm #731165ctesiphon
ParticipantRPS: Item No. 5112 – Marlborough Street, Dublin 1 – St Thomas’s Church (It’s the brick one on Cathal Brugha Street / Findlater Place – not on Marlborough Street or Upper OCS.)
So that’s a Yes- it is a Protected Structure (no longer called ‘listed buildings’).
See here for the RPS reference in the Dublin City Development Plan: http://www.dublincity.ie/Planning/HeritageConservation/Conservation/Documents/VOLUME%203.pdf
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By ‘potential’ I presume you mean ‘likelihood of getting planning permission’ rather than ‘potential to keep the rain off’?
There are specific guidelines for places of worship, produced by the DEHLG. See here: http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/Planning/FileDownLoad,1600,en.pdf
I couldn’t give you a professional opinion; my personal opinion is that such an addition would be a big mistake.
November 4, 2008 at 11:15 pm #731166GregF
ParticipantAny one see the jazzy new Xmas tree that they are constructing on the GPO plaza. Looks contemporary, made outta lights on a steel frame. No pine needles!
I wonder will they put the rustic crib there again. It will be a clash of styles if they do!
I bet the public folk will give out about the new tree, as they do!
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