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So back onto developments,
Has the city council invested on a development plan for Caherdavin now that Caherdavin is within the boundary. The city boundary has been extended just incase no one knows… … It seems like the city council aren’t doing anything with it. There is land available to allow for population to increase rather than decreaase…
Any developments on putting Castletroy and Ul into the city.. yet..
If they could do this they can still fight over Raheen for another few years. But this is just getting redicoulous at this rate.:mad:The limerick stadium should be the main stadium of munster since its bigger and more central in Munster. it would fill for a munster final or semi final, Cant see what the problem is,
@D-A-V-E wrote:
i dunno man, a lot of people have heard a lot of different things..personally i think the greater limerick area is bigger than 100,000 a lot of people are saying that..the 32000 includes the greater area like anacotty, newtown, monaleen, plassey etc also with this new cinema going into ballysimon (which i only recently learned was just outside castletroy!) i found that its population on cso says its around 12-15k so it might be included in the whole ‘greater castletroy area’ but thats an argunemt for another day!
on another note, has anyone any renders of the facade of the bank on o connell st thay are doing up?
also when that building on the dock road is going ahead?
As far as I know its going ahead! Castletroy and Caherdavin could both have 40,000 each easily if they filled the gaps! They need to start the northern orbital to connect the Northside with the city.
So anyone tell ME what is going ahead. The Opera centre has not been officially stopped, once they get the finances and high court shenagians sorted it will go ahead. The investors know this is a worth done deal. It’s what Limerick city needs right now. To bring shoppers back to the city. The retail parks already pull people from Cork and Galway. We really don’t need the city centre to suffer at this stage onwards.
Think positive guys, ffs. Recession is in the head:rolleyes:
@D-A-V-E wrote:
i dunno if your talking about just castletroy alone but i heard it was over 32,000, thats not including the raheen/dooradoyle area which is supposed to be around the 25,000 mark 😮
Well Castletroy is a very large plush suburb. The c.s.o figures says its only around 15,000:confused:. Maybe the exodus of Limerick during the munster rugby weekend meant the census figures were mislead.
I think Limerick city council should now focus on building up Caherdavin now that it has much greenfield and suburban land on its doorstep since the boundary has been extended.
The whole population of Limerick is 95,000. So I can’t see Castletroy been 32,000.
@Tuborg wrote:
An update on the stalled Parkway Valley project.
‘Major jobs blow’ at Parkway Valley development (Limerick Leader)
By Nick Rabbitts
ALMOST 300 skilled construction workers look likely to remain out of work after a petition was lodged in the High Court to recover money from the developers behind the multi-million-euro Parkway Valley project.
The huge Dublin Road development began slowing to a halt last August, following the builders’ holiday. Now, Dublin firm Deepdrill Developments has applied to the High Court for the liquidation of Danningers, the main operating company of Ireland’s biggest developer, Liam Carroll. The case is expected to be heard next Monday.SIPTU believe that the Parkway Valley development, on which work ceased in November after a skeleton staff had operated for some months, will be a casualty of the court action and is expected to impact on up to 300 builders promised work – as well many more potential retail jobs.
Assistant SIPTU organiser Mark Quinn told the Limerick Leader: “It’s a major blow to the construction industry within the region. There are 300 jobs affected by the shut down of this site, and there has been basically no response from Danningers confirming the same – even though we have contacted them on several occasions.
“It’s a massive blow to employees who have been left in limbo for so long as to what’s happened. But there is very little you can do in relation to the project as its a private entity.
“We would like some clarification from Danningers in relation to who the clients are and why the project could not be continued. The region needs to have an answer to what is potentially going to be an eyesore.”
A part of the neighbouring Childers’ Road was to be widened to facilitate the shopping centre. This is also now unlikely to happen, something which has led city councillor Kieran O’Hanlon to call for developers to put money forward to facilitate planning gain.
“Some of this money should have been paid up front when planning permission was given.
“This is our city and we just cannot have derelict sites,” he said, adding: “It’s the tail end of the Celtic Tiger when you see this. It would have been great for the local building sector. I really don’t know what’s going to happen with these buildings, as we have sites which are half-abandoned in Rhebogue as well. Its an issue I will be taking up with the City Council.”
The development, originally given the go-ahead in 2005, promised “iconic surroundings” and “dynamic shopping” with more than 47,000 square meters in retail space. It was expected to welcome its first customers this year.
Earlier this week, the Construction Industry Federation warned that as many as 12,500 jobs could be lost in this region alone as the global recession takes hold.
Danningers declined to comment.
They can’t just leave a half finished shopping centre there like that, can there be a solution to this crisis. Its still very valuable and attractive to be one of the best provincial centres in the country. The current suburban population already holds 20,000 and thats not including the city.
Lisnagry, Annacotty and Castlertroy. This is not mentioning Like Newport and Castleconnel and surrounding North Tipp region
There is a huge market
How is the residential market in Limerick in comparison to the other regions? Any recent planning permissions by developers? Seems like Caherdavin is a potential area to expand now that is in the city! The distrubutor road will allow hundreds of unused land to open up to residential development. If the city council act on this, they maybe be able to turn around red tape and increase the residential population of the dwindling city council boundary actual population
@rumpelstiltskin wrote:
Actually, recent research suggests there’s a black hole at the centre of the galaxy.
But that blackhole has the density of billions of stars around it. Blackholes also create the actual spin and cycles of the galaxy. So my point is, you need a core for matter to start expanding. This is the nature of every city on this planet. Limerick obviously isn’t when you have the county council, creating a incoherent sprawl of retail rwarehousing/commericial centres all over the edges of the city sucking the life of the core retail within the city centre.
@Tuborg wrote:
This is exactly what was needed. More sprawling, out of town retail/leisure development, to the further detriment of the city centre. Planning in Limerick really has become a sick joke at this stage!:rolleyes:
lol… the county councilors are so corrupt its not even a secret at this stage or was it ever.,This is absaloutely sickening. The idea of just swarming incoherent development of a seriously lopsided doughnut city will turn the city ffrom a black hole inside out and will eventually take the whole city with it.
You need to have a functioning core of a city in order to expand in a universal manner. Look at the cosmos, nothing is in existence without a core. No star, planet, galaxy, country or cooporation cannot function without a core.
Extend the boundary now. And stop this competition between the city centre and county for christ sakes. This is the reason why the Opera centre is in a mess, its the reason why the city is sprawling of retail warehousing because the city cant attract them in because of the high rates that the budget restricted city council survives on since the city is been strained by its underrbounded boundary. The public transport system is a shambles for both councils. for one city they cant even cooporate on that.
I am cursing the limerick country council. You have 3 months to end your corruption, or face the consquences. Your greed is choking the cities heart. 3 months and boy i
I’m not kidding:mad:;) Each member o the county vouncil who continues to support this division and monopooly will have their luck numbered. You sure will be reading this soon. wink wink.You either lose all you have as ministers or you join as one city. End of story.
Well its the people of Limericks fault, for leaving it in the balance. The second reapplication was the second chance. It was improved drastically. Your not going to get a colluseam. But I know you all have high standards. But you have to remember Limerick needs a central shopping hub. Right now its just leff the way it is. I dont know why kind of a shopping mall that would retain every single old building that is just not realistic. Ive said this before and now I’m saying it again.
May you all learn.
If you werent happy with the design, I didnt see any of you put up your money to improve this run down part of town.
The corner point should be high profile and tapering up to at least 7/8 storey’s at. the corner stil needs to have a gateway view onto Bedford row. I hope it aims for the same height and density as the Marriot also. I’m confident the arcitect will come up with perfect design for this project. Limerick city centre woulfd be great if they could new developments within 5 to 11 stories, like Paris.
This scheme is very exciting Ihave to say. Limerick is crying out for a real shopping experience in the city. The cinmema would give a much needed bu to the city footfall.
P.S how finished is the hanging gardens, is there any signs to finish it? There another building going ahead on a corner site. Its meant to be of over 5 stories? Could they not aim higher since Henry street ranges from 4 eo 11 stories. Corer sits should always be higher.
Can anyone give me an update on developments in the city centre? Any applications going for planning permission.
@galwayrush wrote:
It’s approx 102,000 within a 15 KM radius of the city.
Still a small place though.The city and metropolitican region is 72,000 under CSO. Stop “but it’s”……… it’s 72,000 the city and suburbs. I’m not including county Galway and nor should you start including other regions. We are talking about Galway city not surrounding countryside 10/15miles outside it.
So is there anything ambitious in the pipeline other than the Opera centre?
Any other plans to continue the Pedestrianisation and the city centre improvements.
Any word on the new street proposal on the corner of Bedford Row?
How is the Hanging Gardens project is that up to full speed in contruction?
How is the Parkvalley S.C going. I hear rumours things are getting back to normal there?
Any news on The Sarsfield siteAnything I haven’t mentioned that is under construction.
Any early opening for the Shunnel?
Sorry for all the question’s. I haven’t been in Limerick in almost 6months:eek:@Tuborg wrote:
Cruse’s Hotel
There is nothing spectacular about that building for the love of god.
The Cannoks building was impressive. There is little arctectural merit in that building other than its wihite. There are no striking features or anything authenitc about it.
If crusie’s street was enhanced and turned into an all day market street with Cafes, hanging baskets and a few distinctive shops. I think Cruis’es street would work.
I think they need to focus on retailing on Williams streetBedford Row/O’Connells street/Henry street/Opera centrea areas
Guys we need to come to a decision with this soon, it’s holding the city back for either side
The boarded up georgain buildings been left there for another two years isn’t going to help. The city does need a shopping mall. I’m not saying bulldose everything in it’s path. But this project is restoring some of the georgion. You can’t expect everything to be restored considering whats been built and also you have to take into consideration some of the buildings are beyond repair and it’s getting more depressing to look at this stage. Its not logical to save everything, there has to be some compromise, as the old will not match the design and layout of a modern shopping mall of this scale. Let’s be a little realistic.
Can I ask is there any postive changes since the new re submitted plan. The Entrance onto Patricks does look alot better than the first application. The shoppping mall layout is impressive and massive I have to say. Something I find hard to imagine Limerick city acutally having.
Every other city in Ireland has city centre shopping malls. And In fairness this one is by far more striking than the other’s.
@vitruvius wrote:
you’d swear that land in Limerick was €100m an acre! – there’s plenty of space in Limerick for (oh dear!) iconic structures without plonking one into the poor old Shannon. What about the nearby Dunnes site on Sarsfield St and that creepy park in Arthur’s quay:)
They want an iconic struture on the River
Duh….
@CologneMike wrote:
Thomond Office Interiors
19 Henry Street (Corner Glenthworth Street)
08210
Demolish the existing premises and build a five storey premises consisting of a retail unit on the ground floor and four floors of offices overhead and associated site works.
Decision due next week.
Neighbouring buildings ~ Hanging Gardens ~ Limerick Youth Service
Below a “blue sky free” artist sketch and if somebody still feels that it’s a cheap mock up, then just print it and apply as much grey colour as appropriate! :rolleyes:
Been a corner prime site, it should of been at least 6/7 storys The ESB site a high rise potential which is accross the road along with the Estuary house which is 8 stories and the River point is behind with 16stories.
I’m very surprised they didn’t go higher, it will make the corner look boring and boxish to me, but the front elevation plan does look good to me.
I like the sky view pic, I think it looks fantastic. It doesn’t look cheapish at all. I do like how they incoparated the Georgian into the whole front of the complex.
Guy’s would you f**** lay off the pognance for a while. Seroously. Like what are you looking for instead.
Irish people really have no innovation or radical minds. Really none of you have, none of you can come up with something bettter. But whinge all day long. Bottom line none of you will be happy. It’s all so easy to be so negative. Every deveolopement will have its positive and negatives. Irish people prefare to sit all day and moan about how it’s not up to the job. If you don’t like it, come up with something better. If you don’t have anything and you don’t have your money out on the table. I suggest you shut up. Life goes on.
Will you all bloody smile for once.:rolleyes:
@Fairy wrote:
Read this week, The Opera Centre will NOT commence until 2011 – 3 more years of waiting and having to look at the boarded up buildings on Patrick St, Ruthland St. What a total shambles.
Where is your source?!
