well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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@Tuborg wrote:
Yeah its the floodlights alright, work started on site last week. I think they’re planning to stage 1 of this years County Finals under the lights as a test run before the International Rules.
Have you seen the plans though. Plans Two of the flood light masts will be in front of the terrace! In the north east and north west corners. The terracing in the corners will now be useless as you wont be able to see the whole pitch. Crazy!
@Goofy wrote:
Have you seen the plans though. Plans Two of the flood light masts will be in front of the terrace! In the north east and north west corners. The terracing in the corners will now be useless as you wont be able to see the whole pitch. Crazy!
When I first read your post, I thought, surely this couldn’t be true! Astonishingly though, the planning files seem to confirm that pylons are to be placed at the bottom corners of the uncovered stand/terracing!
I honestly cant think of any other ground where this ridiculous arrangement occurs! This is only an assumption but I wonder did the previous refusal have a bearing on the positioning of these masts?
It would be easy to blame Limerick GAA for this monumental cock-up but what the hell were the engineers (Punch & Partners) thinking?:rolleyes:
It has to be due to planning restrictions – it looks totally unnatural !.. seemingly the ground has never been full since its redevelopment – so that empty spaces will in future be 3 wedges behind the floodlights – the 4th at the city end of the Mackey stand seems ok.
There is a bit of previous for this layout though – Pairc ui Rinn – the first GAA stadium to have floodlights I believe ( naturally – sure its in Cork like) – although the impact is a lot less as the stadium is smaller and the terraces have square ends,
is that development on henry st stopped completely? what exactly are they building there? and is there any truth in the roumers of the eircom building behind riverpoint getting re developed?
@D-A-V-E wrote:
is that development on henry st stopped completely? what exactly are they building there? and is there any truth in the roumers of the eircom building behind riverpoint getting re developed?
yeah work across the road from that development on Henry St, haven’t seen anybody working in there for months, haven’t heard anything about the eircom building.
@Griff wrote:
It has to be due to planning restrictions – it looks totally unnatural !.. seemingly the ground has never been full since its redevelopment – so that empty spaces will in future be 3 wedges behind the floodlights – the 4th at the city end of the Mackey stand seems ok.
There is a bit of previous for this layout though – Pairc ui Rinn – the first GAA stadium to have floodlights I believe ( naturally – sure its in Cork like) – although the impact is a lot less as the stadium is smaller and the terraces have square ends.Well it was full for last years Munster Final and it should be full again for the International Rules in October. There’s going to be quite a few spectators with restricted views of that game!:rolleyes:
I wouldn’t pay too much attention to Pairc ui Rinn, its only really used as a secondary venue to Pairc ui Chaoimh. I noticed at the weekend that the new lights in Thurles have been installed behind the terracing so as not to obstruct views of the pitch, just as you would expect.
It just makes this decision all the more annoying. It must be some kind of concession to the residents on that side of the ground. Maybe they felt that locating the masts within the stadium would help allay the concerns of locals. Despite the fact that light spillage from modern floods is pretty low.
I think I might fire off an e-mail to Limerick GAA to try and get the definitive reason for this unfortunate decision.
Below: Proposed locations of floodlighting masts.
The limerick stadium should be the main stadium of munster since its bigger and more central in Munster. it would fill for a munster final or semi final, Cant see what the problem is,
Politics? I doubt the rebels in the peoples republic would be happy for a start. They weren’t exactly impressed with the decision to redevelop Thomond Park but they’d go looney over that suggestion altogether
😀@vkid wrote:
Politics? I doubt the rebels in the peoples republic would be happy for a start. They weren’t exactly impressed with the decision to redevelop Thomond Park but they’d go looney over that suggestion altogether
😀Pairc ui Chaoimh in its current decrepit state, shouldn’t be allowed to host a major game again after the fiasco at the Cork v Tipp game last year.
I’ve always felt that the GAA should prioritise 1 stadium in each province for investment to bring it up to an accepatable standard. In Munster, Pairc na nGael is the most modern and therefore would require less investment than the others. A new main stand and potentially a roof over the open stand would transform it into a very tidy ground. Its also got geography on its side.
However the GAA is far too parochial to make common sense decisions. Semple Stadium in Thurles has the “tradition” which is so highly valued by the association, so it will always be considered the No.2 stadium behind Croke Park and thus the undisputed No.1 in Munster.
theres at least one tower crane down by the gaelic grounds as i speak, obviously the erection of the floodlights in underway!
So back onto developments,
Has the city council invested on a development plan for Caherdavin now that Caherdavin is within the boundary. The city boundary has been extended just incase no one knows… … It seems like the city council aren’t doing anything with it. There is land available to allow for population to increase rather than decreaase…
Any developments on putting Castletroy and Ul into the city.. yet..
If they could do this they can still fight over Raheen for another few years. But this is just getting redicoulous at this rate.:mad:@vkid wrote:
Politics? I doubt the rebels in the peoples republic would be happy for a start. They weren’t exactly impressed with the decision to redevelop Thomond Park but they’d go looney over that suggestion altogether
😀Fup em.. Limerick is the sports capital of Ireland, since Limerick is better located and more central in Munster and closer to Connacht, I dont see why Not… Once the ring road is completed, the stadium will be very easily accessilbe. The cork stadium can be a nightmare at times in getting to and from it and not to mention parking..
Written by John O’Shaughnessy
Thursday, 18 June 2009 08:04
LIMERICK POSTTHE second hand property market is showing definite signs of recovery…but new house sales remain static.
There has also been a marked improvement in the commercial sector, with several important shop sales recorded in the city inside the last month.
That is the word from a prominent local auctioneer who has detected a sharp, if unexpected rise, in the sale of second-hand houses.
And he is hopeful that the upturn will continue, and that Ireland is coming out of the recession.
He pointed to world oil markets. “Much to the annoyance of motorists, petrol prices have risen steeply in recent weeks, but the upside to that is that it signals a world-wide demand for oil again. The wheels are moving in the United States and that is good news”.
Though the property market had taken a nosedive over the last 12 months, there were, added the auctioneer, no bargains to be found in city estates.
“Estates such as Caherdavin, Dooradoyle, Raheen, Corbally and Castletroy have held their values, with prices much the same as they were before the recession hit. The reason is that they are all close to the city with amenities on their doorsteps”.
However, it is a different story on the outskirts with big price drops in areas like Clonlara, Crecora, Patrickswell, Meelick, etc.
A spokesperson for one of Limerick’s biggest developers told the Limerick Post that while there was noticeable movement in the market place generally, it had yet to happen in new house sales.
“There is a lot of stock around just now with some builders having in excess of 20 already built units just sitting there. That is a lot of money to have tied up.
“Consequently, there is precious little in the way of new builds, with some sites having closed down.
“While second-hand houses might be in demand, the situation there is that people are trading-up and are not too heavily committed loan wise.
“Buying new is different, though, and the lending institutions have more or less shut shop when it comes to giving out substantial loans. Investors are also thin on the ground”.
[align=center:15szv6ul]This is good news for the city[/align:15szv6ul]while it is great news the Gaelic Grounds are having floodlights installed it makes no sense to install them at the front of the spectators. The great thing about the newly developed parts of the GG is that there are great sightlines from everywhere. A redeveloped Mackey Stand with a single line of corporate boxes at the top and a low cantilevered roof for the rest of the ground would have made this the best stadium in Munster by a long way and surely the second best GAA stadium.
The engineers have made a bad mistake on this and surely should have provided a better solution. They could have taken a look at what was done at the Hill 16 end of Croke Park where a collapsable floodlight mast was installed. This would have surely delighted the residents while it may have been taller when in use it would not be visible the majority of the time as it could be taken down. Take a look at this photo
De-mountable floodlighting masts would have been an excellent option for the uncovered stand side, although it would be asking far too much for Limerick GAA to come up with such an innovative solution!:rolleyes: The corners of both terrace’s offer some of the best views of the pitch, now they are going to be obscured by these large poles, it’s an absolutely terrible decision.
I would love to know if the opposition from local residents really did have an impact on the positioning of the mast’s. If it did, then I think questions need to be asked of Limerick City Council! I had a look back over the recent planning history of the Gaelic Grounds and its pretty obvious that the local GAA have found it strangely difficult to get planning permission for a variety of applications.
We already know that the initial floodlighting application was shot down last year. Oddly, there were also issues with the re-location of an electronic scoreboard from one end of the ground to the other!:confused: Back in 2002 when the re-development of the GGs was finally given the green light, a key condition stated that non-sporting events would not be permitted at the venue!
Maybe I’m reading too much into this but it seems that while LCC have bent over backwards to facilitate Munster Rugby and Thomond Park, they have been extremely un-accomodating towards Limerick GAA and the Gaelic Grounds. Perhaps its got something to do with the revenue Munster Rugby brings to the city.;)
@D-A-V-E wrote:
whats the story with the proposed cinema over in ballysimon? has that started to be built yet?
Cinema in Ballysimon?
That’s the first I’ve heard about one.
Whereabouts D-A-V-E?@D-A-V-E wrote:
whats the story with the proposed cinema over in ballysimon? has that started to be built yet?
It’s been appealed to An Bord Pleanala.
ya it was mentioned in the post and the forums a while ago, somewhere on the ballysimon road..one of those retail parks like delta or city east retail or eastway..i think it was to have a 10 screen cinema with a restaurant and some arcades or something like that..the blueprints were floating around awhile ago, cant remember when the place is to be build, i heard it was to start straight away..kind of a stupid location in my openion. castletroy and raheen have cinemas, northside and town should be the next place
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