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  • #755398
    Tuborg
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    @CologneMike wrote:

    I would have loved to have seen Joe Malone’s contribution.

    How did the programme fare out?

    Damn, could not access it because of some stupid copyright reasons! 😡

    Can anybody upload it to youtube?

    Only got around to watching this last night.

    Overall it was pretty good and gave a decent insight into the Limerick of yesteryear, although as is usually the case with RTE, they could’ve made a bit more out of it and expanded on a couple of topics!

    I particularly enjoyed Joe Malone’s contribution, especially the story about when he was a member of Ranks auxillary fire brigade who were on the way to assist in fighting the Todds fire. Apparently the truck carrying them to the scene braked suddenly at Bedford Row, resulting in the firemen being unceremoniously dumped onto the pavement in front of the watching crowds!:D

    The Limerick Film Archive supplied some dramatic footage of Todds facade collapsing onto O Connell Street and also of the helicopter that was brought in to finally demolish the remains of the structure.

    The rest of the archive material featured, was from the 1960s and probably the mid 1970s. One thing that struck me was how much busier O Connell Street was in those days. I suppose this was down to the fact that the city centre was the main shopping destination back then as none of the suburban shopping centres existed at that stage.

    There was also a small piece on Cruises Hotel and an extract from an RTE News report from 1990 on the Cruises Street development.

    Unfortunately though, there was no sign of the old Cannocks building in any of the old footage!

    #755399
    foinse
    Participant

    Some news on Colbert station

    Action stations as Bus Eireann gets approval

    Date: 09 February 2009

    A MODERN two-storey bus station is to built at Parnell Street within two years which will bring the terminus “up to the 21st century”.
    An Bord Pleanala granted planning permission for the €5.5million redevelopment of Colbert Station last week, after it was originally refused by Limerick City Council.

    However, at an oral hearing in City Hall last October city planning officers did not voice as much opposition to the designs as originally expressed.

    An Bord Pleanala have now overturned their ruling, while outlining a number of conditions before the development can proceed.

    Overall, the board found that the plan would benefit the city, in spite of concerns in relation to the impact of works on Colbert Station, a protected structure.

    It stated the development “would represent an enhanced transport hub which would be highly desirable in terms of expanding public transport facilities in Limerick city and surrounding areas”.

    The board also found that it would not adversely affect the proposals for an orbital route along Parnell Street – which was initially the case put forward by refusal by Limerick City Council.

    The application by Bus Eireann to rejuvenate the station was partly in response to the Department of Transport’s sectoral plan 2006.

    And is understood that Bus Eireann may be reliant on the Department of Transport for a portion of the cost of the development, which could determine when construction could begin.

    The plans will see a new bus station built at the current car parking area to the side of the existing station building. New car parking facilities will be developed where the bus bays are currently.

    A landscape garden is planned for the carpark at the front of the station. An internal walkway will also connect the rail and bus station, providing greater ease of access for passengers.

    Built in 1849 and designed by Sancton Wood, also architect of Heuston Station, the station was renamed after Con Colbert, the Limerick man executed following the 1916 Rising.

    But the station was not originally intended to be located on Parnell Street. The National Inventory of Architectural Heritage notes that “aristocratic and middle class interests prevented it from being constructed in the more fashionable parts of the city and it was thus built at the edge of the Victorian part of the Limerick city”.

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Ac…ann.4959413.jp

    #755400
    Anonymous
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    Thomond Office Interiors

    19 Henry Street (Corner Glenthworth Street)

    08210

    Demolish the existing premises and build a five storey premises consisting of a retail unit on the ground floor and four floors of offices overhead and associated site works.

    Decision due next week.

    Neighbouring buildings ~ Hanging Gardens ~ Limerick Youth Service

    Below a “blue sky free” artist sketch and if somebody still feels that it’s a cheap mock up, then just print it and apply as much grey colour as appropriate! :rolleyes:

    #755401
    dave123
    Participant

    @CologneMike wrote:

    Thomond Office Interiors

    19 Henry Street (Corner Glenthworth Street)

    08210

    Demolish the existing premises and build a five storey premises consisting of a retail unit on the ground floor and four floors of offices overhead and associated site works.

    Decision due next week.

    Neighbouring buildings ~ Hanging Gardens ~ Limerick Youth Service

    Below a “blue sky free” artist sketch and if somebody still feels that it’s a cheap mock up, then just print it and apply as much grey colour as appropriate! :rolleyes:

    Been a corner prime site, it should of been at least 6/7 storys The ESB site a high rise potential which is accross the road along with the Estuary house which is 8 stories and the River point is behind with 16stories.

    I’m very surprised they didn’t go higher, it will make the corner look boring and boxish to me, but the front elevation plan does look good to me.

    #755402
    dave123
    Participant

    @foinse wrote:

    Some news on Colbert station

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Ac…ann.4959413.jp

    This is great news. Much need life back into this area.

    #755403
    dave123
    Participant

    @vitruvius wrote:

    you’d swear that land in Limerick was €100m an acre! – there’s plenty of space in Limerick for (oh dear!) iconic structures without plonking one into the poor old Shannon. What about the nearby Dunnes site on Sarsfield St and that creepy park in Arthur’s quay:)

    They want an iconic struture on the River

    Duh….

    #755404
    dave123
    Participant

    So is there anything ambitious in the pipeline other than the Opera centre?

    Any other plans to continue the Pedestrianisation and the city centre improvements.
    Any word on the new street proposal on the corner of Bedford Row?
    How is the Hanging Gardens project is that up to full speed in contruction?
    How is the Parkvalley S.C going. I hear rumours things are getting back to normal there?
    Any news on The Sarsfield site

    Anything I haven’t mentioned that is under construction.
    Any early opening for the Shunnel?
    Sorry for all the question’s. I haven’t been in Limerick in almost 6months:eek:

    #755405
    PoxyShamrock
    Participant

    @dave123 wrote:

    How is the Hanging Gardens project is that up to full speed in contruction?

    Work’s stopping there in three weeks. 🙁

    #755406
    Tuborg
    Participant

    Retirement village and nursing home plans for Kilmoyle (Limerick Leader)

    LIMERICK city received a huge boost with confirmation that developer Aidan Brooks is to build a new multi million euro nursing home, dementia unit and retirement homes at Kilmoyle, North Circular Road.
    Plans are to be lodged before the weekend with City Hall for the massive project on the 6.5 acre site, which includes the home of former Catholic bishops of Limerick.

    The developer paid around £27 million for the site at the height of the economic boom and their were fears that with the recession that the site would not be developed.

    The project includes a 60 bedroom nursing home; 10 bedroom dementia unit and 52 retirement homes with a communal pavilion and security lodge.

    It is understood that the pavilion will include facilities including a hairdressers and cinema.

    Seamus Carr, architect and design team leader, has promised a low density scheme with 46 per cent of the area remaining green. The old Kilmoyle house will be part of the integrated campus, but its purpose has not yet been decided by Mr Brooks.

    “We would like to be breaking ground on the site by September, that is if all goes well and we get planning in the next three months,” said Mr Carr. If there are objections the project could be put back another three months, if not longer.”

    “It is low density with a lot of open space, considerably more than other similar projects with 46 per cent open space,” said the Henry Street-based architect.

    If the proposal is given permission it is expected that hundreds of construction workers would work on the site, which would be a huge boost to the local economy.

    Meanwhile, Tony Sadlier, finance manager with the Limerick diocese, which sold the property to Mr Brooks revealed that they considered going ahead with a similar type development on the property.

    “At the end of the day, we are not developers and decided to sell it on. It is something we considered doing as many parishioners had suggested it as we have an aging population in the parish. So we very much support what is happening,” he added.

    Local councillor Kathleen Leddin, who lives nearby, said that she had spoken briefly to Mr Brooks, but had not seen the full plans.
    “I would be in favour of a retirement village once it is not over developed and not over built,” she stated.

    “I think it could be a very useful addition to the area and welcomed,” she added.

    It is not yet clear what will happen to the actual house, Kilmoyle, which is a detached three-bay two-storey over basement sandstone ashlar house, built in 1845, with Doric portico, and four-bay two-storey over basement side elevations.

    Unusually built of sandstone, this building was extensively renovated during the twentieth century and housed a magnificent library. The current Bishop of Limerick, Dr Donal Murray, felt the home was too big for him, when he was appointed Bishop of Limerick and moved to a more modest accommodation at Hawthorns, Annacotty.

    Kilmoyle House

    #755407
    Tuborg
    Participant

    It also looks as if there may finally be some movement on a possible boundary extension. I really hope the Minister makes a strong decision on this and pays no heed to those neanderthal’s out there who seem hell-bent on holding the city back!

    Minister Gormley moves on Limerick city boundary

    By Petula Martyn

    THE Minister for the Environment, John Gormley, has said he will not be “steered in any particular direction by vested interests” when deciding whether or not to extend the boundary of Limerick city.
    A white paper on the matter is due to be published in early March, and the minister has said he will be objective in coming to a decision.

    “Let me say to you, that as far as I’m concerned, I’m going to do what is best for Limerick and what is best for the region,” he told the Limerick Leader.

    Minister Gormley said a series of suggestions, including the idea of a single planning authority, have been put forward, and he admitted that some people will not be happy with his “optimal solution”.

    “I’m in a position where I can act more objectively than previous ministers. Previous ministers were under political pressure. I am not going to allow that interfere with my judgement of things.”

    Minister Gormley was the first Minister for the Environment in over fifty years to grant a limited extension of the boundary in March last year, to include Caherdavin, Coonagh and Moyross in the city.

    “Eaten bread is quickly forgotten, you know,” the Minister said. “I did, unlike other previous ministers, give a boundary extension. It might have been limited but it had never been done. It was asked for, it was given and on that particular date county councillors said ‘this is it and no more’.”

    There have, however, been further calls from city councillors across all parties, and the local business community to further extend the boundary to include the city environs.

    A draft copy of the Limerick City Development Plan 2010-2016 describes the challenges that lie ahead in terms of developing the city centre.
    “The demotion of the city centre in such a way is contrary to national, regional and local policy. It is evident that the role of the city centre in the national hierarchy is under serious threat and such a demotion of the importance of the city centre will impact negatively on the region’s competitiveness,” it states.

    Minister Gormley advised all interested parties not to get “hung up” on any one particular option as a way to address the boundary issue.

    “I’m into solving problems, I’m not into rigidities and that’s the only way it can be done,” he said, “because people need to be flexible in the way that they think.

    “No matter what you do, you can’t please everybody and I’m expecting that some people will not be happy with what I’m suggesting, but never the less I do think that the proposal that is put forward will be in the best interest of the city.”

    Limerick Leader

    #755408
    vkid
    Participant

    Hopefully the right decisions are made and they dont make the situation worse…but at least there is some movement on the boundary.

    #755409
    KeepAnEyeOnBob
    Participant

    If the decisions are genuinely going to be an improvement, lets hope they are made while there is still time to attend to such matters before everyone is engrossed in more substantial political issues.

    #755410
    massamann
    Participant

    Have to say, that even when this thread moves onto a different topic, the issue of What Are We To Build on the Boatshed? still gets stuck in my craw.

    I just can’t get away from the fact that we are handing over the highest profile site in the city to a private office development. Call me a pinko lefty socialist if you like, but to me an ugly public building is still better than an identically ugly private building.

    The addition of a cafe or meeting room on the ground floor of an office block just doesn’t cut it for me. It was mentioned in the thread before that wouldn’t this be a fantastic location for the city library, if it has to leave the Granary. This has the added bonus of not requiring an overly large, overly dominant structure in the middle of the river.

    Much as I try to look dispassionately at what is being proposed, I don’t feel any excitement about it. And even if the designs were top drawer, Pritzker winning standard, well, short of getting a job for the tenant, I’m never going to get to see the inside of them. And I’m not sure that’s what an “iconic structure” should aspire to be…

    #755411
    SuperCool
    Participant

    Massamann.

    You’re entitled to you oppionion obviously, but to claim it’s the “highest profile site” in the city is a joke.

    Be honest here.

    #755412
    massamann
    Participant

    I’d like to believe that my opinion isn’t dishonest, it’s just DIFFERENT FROM YOURS.

    It’s a site in the middle of the bridge that is the main crossing point of the Shannon into the city. From this bridge you can see the castle, the cathedral, curraghower falls, and along Sarsfield St into the commercial centre of town. There’s a picture in my parents house of this very view. Short of knocking down the castle, I can’t think of anywhere in the city that’s undeniably higher profile. Although I’m happy to hear which are the alternatives that you think are more visible.

    Having said all that, I’d still be in favour of building something here. It’s just that my first choice wouldn’t be privately owned offices. And it would have to be of a higher standard than this proposal. After all, it’s not like we’re stuck for either office space or development land. There is no imperative to building here.

    And if this site isn’t high profile, maybe you should mention that to the developer: it’d save him alot of money and hassle if his development relocated away from the river. But even though we may disagree on his proposal, both he and I seem to think that this site is worth having and therefore worth debating.

    So what do you think? Do you think private offices on this site are a good idea?

    #755413
    Griff
    Participant

    I think its fair to say the boat club site is the highest profile site in the city – certainly its location means that it can be seen from many different vantage points – along the quays/strands and from many offices and hotels. If the building is an eyesore – and that depends on individual opinion – then its going to be the most visible eyesore in Limerick. From my point of view Sarsfield bridge is possibly the best structure we have in the city and Im very unsure if what is being proposed will be a valuable addition…

    #755414
    Tuborg
    Participant

    An Bord Pleanala have upheld the City Councils decision to grant permission for a tensile roof and other associated works at the Milk Market.

    Inspector’s Report

    Milk Market okay by Bord Pleanala (Limerick Leader)

    By Anne Sheridan

    THE Milk Market is to open six days a week from early next year and will include a 120-sear restaurant and a translucent, tensile roof.
    Permission was granted for the development by Limerick City Council last June, but it was appealed to An Bord Pleanala by one market trader and a local body, who opposed the plans.

    Mayor of Limerick John Gilligan, a former chairperson of the Market Trustees and supporter of the plans, and said some objections were “politically motivated.”

    “All of these were dismissed by An Bord Pleanala, but some submissions were made by very genuine people,” added the Mayor.

    “I’m absolutely delighted it has received planning. This is going to be very big for the city and I look forward to the revamped market. It will give it an entire lease of life and the litmus test will be to see it running up at 6pm at night,” said the Mayor.

    David O’Mahony, chairman of Limerick Market Trustees, said it has been a long process from concept to design and planning.

    “The time in the planning process has actually worked in our favour. The economic environment now is more conducive to realistic tendering,” said Mr O’Mahony.

    He said the market will establish itself as the “must visit location” and will provide a boost to the local economy.

    Under the plans the market is to be partially covered, but a petition submitted to An Bord Pleanala maintained that the market should be kept as an open and saved from “becoming a shopping mall.”
    However, the board found that the “translucent structure” of the tensile roofing should ensure that the open market atmosphere is not lost.

    An Bord Pleanala granted planning permission with 10 conditions attached, and have ordered that a proposed structure on Mungret Court shall be omitted.

    Trader Marie Hussey, who operates the Green Acres Cheese Shop at the Milk Market, said she felt the application would “have major implications for the quality of the market environment and the economic viability of current traders.”

    The Thomond Archaeological and Historical Society stated the “whole proposal is unwanted by traders..and is totally unnecessary.” The society also stated that they believe the proposed tensile roof is an “intrusive new structure” and would change the character of the market.

    The board found that “the development would not seriously injure the amenities of the area or of property in the vicinity, would not conflict with the provisions of the Limerick City Development Plan, would be acceptable in terms of traffic safety and convenience and would be in accordance with the proper planning and sustainable development of the area.”

    #755415
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    €2m facelift for Limerick Milk Market (Irish Times)

    KATHRYN HAYES (26.02.2009)


    A computer simulation of the proposed development at Limerick Milk Market

    A MAJOR development for one of the country’s oldest market places is set to commence within weeks.

    The transformation of Limerick Milk Market, which dates back to 1852, is an extensive project due to be completed by early next year.

    This follows the decision by Limerick City Council, and An Bord Pleanála to grant permission for the project to the Limerick Market Trustees, a non-profit group responsible for running markets throughout the city and environs.

    David O’Mahony, the chairman of Limerick Market Trustees, said the project will cost in excess of €2 million and would “move quickly to implementation, once the tendering process is complete”.

    “Our plan is to build upon the phenomenal success of our open air Saturday Milk Market, transforming it into an even more vibrant, enlarged, week-long market venue, which will be weather-proofed and will attract more shoppers and visitors into the heart of Limerick city,” he said.

    “In advancing our plans, we are conscious that we are the guardians of a unique and historic market which dates back to 1852. Our plan will fully protect the integrity of the market and will make it a landmark city attraction.”

    The redeveloped market will provide opportunities for more small traders to showcase diverse and local produce, from fresh and fine foods through to horticultural produce, crafts and fashions, continued Mr O’Mahoney.

    The transformation plan incorporates a structure covering the Milk Market courtyard, protecting visitors from the elements. A mezzanine floor, to extend from the existing Market House will accommodate a restaurant overlooking the market.

    Beneath this will be a number of permanent trading outlets that will typically sell speciality foods and beverages, in keeping with the market’s ethos.

    “The dynamic of a market, where the stallholders sell what they produce direct to shoppers, is very special. It creates a buzz, an energy and a business stimulant that is just brilliant, particularly within a city centre. Our plans are to facilitate this ‘buzz’ by providing a more perfect environment for both the stallholders and the shoppers. We will also be promoting the market as a venue for a range of special events, complementary to the market, to add to its overall appeal and to the contribution the market will make to the city,” said Mr O’Mahony.

    In the coming weeks the market trustees will be detailing the opportunities the market presents for specialist retailers, producers and event organisers.

    The development will form part of the Limerick Market Trustees overall strategy for increasing markets in the city. It is hoped it will complement the Riverside market, which runs on Sundays from April to October on Bedford Row in Limerick city centre.

    #755416
    lostexpectation
    Participant

    canyou not split this thread up into parts, boathouse, university etc, its v.hard to follow

    those visualisation make the building look tiny.

    #755417
    Tuborg
    Participant

    The oral hearing into the proposed extension of the Crescent Shopping Centre got underway this week.

    ‘City will decline if Crescent expands’ (Limerick Leader)

    John Hogan

    LIMERICK City is “leaking” business and trade in the city centre could drop by up to 20 per cent if approval is granted for a major extension to the Crescent Shopping Centre, an oral hearing of An Bord Pleanala was told yesterday.
    The hearing – which began yesterday morning – is being held to allow a number of different bodies to voice their opinions on the extension which would host a Marks & Spencer unit as its anchor tenant.

    Limerick County Council refused planning permission for the development but the decision was appealed by the applicants, Stapleyside Company Limited, leading to the hearing.

    Experts, speaking on behalf of Limerick City Council which has objected to the development, claimed yesterday that the extension would lead to the overall decline of the city centre. However, supporters of the plans said that their proposal satisfies the guidelines set down in the Mid-West Retail Strategy and could easily work in tandem with the development of business in the city.

    Acting senior planner with Limerick City Council Kieran Reeves said due to retail decline, 25 per cent of dwellings in the city centre are now vacant, with 50 per cent of the Georgian buildings unoccupied.

    “Limerick city centre should be the hub of economic activity in the region but suburban retail development has been growing twice as fast as that of the city,” said Mr Reeves. “We have failed to retain the city’s place among the retail hierarchy and there is a need to protect that as enshrined in the Mid-West Retail Strategy.”

    Mr Reeves added that no agreements have yet been signed for the proposed Opera Centre but that potential tenants would be “watching keenly” as proceedings got under way at the hearing in County Hall this week.

    Planning consultant John Spain said that, if granted permission, the proposed development – combined with those in Coonagh Cross and Parkway Valley – would have a cumulative impact of at least 20 per cent on the comparison retail trade of the City Centre.

    Commercial property specialist Patrick Seymour, speaking on behalf of the City Council, said that Limerick was the only city in the country where retail rents were more expensive in the suburbs – referring specifically to the Crescent Shopping Centre – than the city centre.

    Consultant engineer Seamus McGearailt, speaking for the City Council, said there were “serious shortcomings” in the Transport Impact Assessment carried out for Stapleyside. He claimed that the development would compromise the Southern Green Bus Route and undermine the overall transport strategy for the city.

    David O’Mahony, of O’Mahony’s bookstore, spoke yesterday on behalf of the Limerick City Business Association, saying he had come to “plead for the city”.

    “I ask you. Walk the main streets of the city, walk the side streets and listen to the silence. Look at the vacant units, some of which haven’t even seen tenants,” said Mr O’Mahony.

    “Nobody in their right minds could say the city is thriving. Customers are telling us that the city is leaking business. There’s plenty of evidence of available sites in the city but the level of floor space being granted in the suburbs has demoted the city.”

    Each of the speakers against the development claimed that it contravened the Mid-West Retail Strategy, but Planning and Environmental consultant Chris McGarry, speaking on behalf of Stapleyside, argued otherwise. Mr McGarry claimed that, due to the large number of amenities in the area, Dooradoyle, had become a town centre and therefore was entitled to prioritise retail development in the area, as dictated in the Regional Strategy.

    Jenny Mulholland, speaking on behalf of Marks & Spencer, reiterated that the retail giant gave its full support to the Stapleyside application, saying that the Crescent would best serve the store’s needs. She did, however, also state that M&S still desires a second store in the city to complement the proposed one in Dooradoyle.

    Mr McGarry added that Stapleyside representatives would continue to give presentations today addressing objectors’ concerns, including those regarding the contentious issue of traffic management in the area.

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