well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?
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@massamann wrote:
I’d like to believe that my opinion isn’t dishonest, it’s just DIFFERENT FROM YOURS.
It’s a site in the middle of the bridge that is the main crossing point of the Shannon into the city. From this bridge you can see the castle, the cathedral, curraghower falls, and along Sarsfield St into the commercial centre of town. There’s a picture in my parents house of this very view. Short of knocking down the castle, I can’t think of anywhere in the city that’s undeniably higher profile. Although I’m happy to hear which are the alternatives that you think are more visible.
Having said all that, I’d still be in favour of building something here. It’s just that my first choice wouldn’t be privately owned offices. And it would have to be of a higher standard than this proposal. After all, it’s not like we’re stuck for either office space or development land. There is no imperative to building here.
And if this site isn’t high profile, maybe you should mention that to the developer: it’d save him alot of money and hassle if his development relocated away from the river. But even though we may disagree on his proposal, both he and I seem to think that this site is worth having and therefore worth debating.
So what do you think? Do you think private offices on this site are a good idea?
No massamann, you STATED YOUR OPPINION AS FACT!!!!! (see I can post in capital letters too, aren’t I special:rolleyes:).
I think, hmmmmmm St Johns Cathederal, The Court House, Peoples Park, St Mary’s Cathederal, the whole of the Crescent with the Georgian buildings, not to mention the small matter of the Castle you just mentioned.
By your logic the old Dunnes building is “the highest profile site” in the city, as it has everything you just mentioned and more, seeing as it’s four times the size!
Also, I’ll think you’ll find that Shannon Bridge has a much larger traffic flow that Sarsfields bridge.
Heya supercool,
Not only can you post in capitals, you can also use multiple exclamation marks – that makes you extra special in my book.
I admit that the buildings that you list – King Johns Castle, the Cathedral, the Crescent – are undeniably important, containing a sizable proportion of Limericks landmark buildings. But as sites (as potential practical locations for proposed new buildings), I don’t believe that any of them rank higher than a site in the centre of the river in the centre of town. After all, I’m not aware of any proposals to knock the castle in order to build a block of apartments. And I’m not sure what you were expecting, but I agree that the old Dunnes site comes very close to being as high a profile, except that it is set back from the riverbank by a road rather than being in the centre of the river.
Surprisingly I also agree with your statement that Shannon bridge carries more traffic than Sarsfield bridge, but (to use your phrase) be honest here: is it really more important? Unless you’re suggesting that Shannon bridge is more high profile than Sarsfield bridge simply because it gets more traffic? And if we follow that logic, then Shannon Bridge is more important than the castle, the courthouse, the crescent etc that you mentioned.
The site of the boat club can be seen from both Shannon Bridge AND the castle, the courthouse, the treaty stone, etc. which makes it pretty high profile to me. But enough of our petty squabble, I think we can both agree that as a site it is both (a) fairly high profile, and (b) subject to a live planning application. And therefore worth debating.
Seemingly the courthouse is going to be moved to a ‘site on Mulgrave St.’… and will be complete by 2011… so says Monday’s L Leader. I assume this is the site on Costelloe’s yard ?. This would be such a good move IMO – right next to the jail. Also frees up the existing courthouse for use as an Opera house/theater. Obvious really – just like bringing Limerick senior soccer back to the Markets field and ,,ahem..constructing the ‘iconic’ building planned for the Limerick boat club site on the Dunnes Sarsfield site instead…
ive been drinking too much coffee…A new budget hotel is to open in the vacant block of the parkpoint development off the Dublin road.
Seems a bit of a strange decision in the current climate and also the fact that the hotel market in Limerick is already pretty saturated!
New hotel to open in Limerick (Limerick Leader)
By Nick Rabbitts
LIMERICK city is to get yet another hotel- in another indication that one big chain believes the recession could be coming to an end.
It was confirmed this Thursday afternoon that budget hotel chain Travelodge is to open its second outlet in Limerick on the Dublin Road.Travelodge Castletroy will open on June 1 as the anchor tenant in the multi-million euro Parkpoint building, opposite the Parkway Shopping Centre.
The hotel will employ 50 people, with many more jobs created in the fit out of the property.
Speaking to the Limerick Leader, Joe Hanrahan of Cracken Properties also revealed that two further tenants have been confirmed, which will bring the total workforce in the complex to beyond the 100 mark.
While Travelodge will open 100 rooms across four floors of the Parkpoint, a restaurant will open on the ground floor, while the National Cancer Screening Services of Ireland will open offices on the top two floors. It is estimated the Parkpoint will be 85 per cent occupied.
This week’s announcement represents the second hotel the Travelodge will operate in the city – and apart from Dublin, Limerick will be the only city to have more than one branch of the budget chain.
The first Travelodge opened at the Coonagh roundabout in 2002 – it has 11 branches across Ireland.
There is still some life in the commercial market despite the savage mauling of jobs in the city over the last few months! 🙂
@CologneMike wrote:
I hear that there appears to be very little or no activity across the road from the proposed Travel Lodge Hotel where the Parkway Valley Shopping Center is to be built. Is it been mothballed? Any body got up to date information?
There hasnt been a stir on that site for the last 6 months. The money has run out, and the banks arent lending so this development is going nowhere fast.
You really would have to question the future of this project. It was conceived in a time when we simply couldnt stop building shopping complexes irrespective it seemed of whether the demand actually existed in the first place. Of course it should also be mentioned that this is another development that was waved through by Limerick County Council.:rolleyes:
A whole host of potential anchor tenants were supposedly being linked with Parkway Valley but in reality it seems that they are having serious difficulty in getting retailers to sign up.
It looks like we could have a serious white elephant on our hands here!
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Addition of an office block to the previously approved Coonagh Cross Shopping Centre, Ennis Road (An Bord Pleanala reference PL13. 210562 Limerick County Council Ref 03/2050) as follows: Addition of a basement car park for 85 spaces, ground floor office plus 5 floor office building overhead to give a total gross floor area of circa 10,250m2. Plus a surface car parking for 55 spaces with associated lighting, access roads, underground services and landscaping. Total site area of the overall Coonagh Cross development is 16.45ha (40.64 acres).
Coonagh Cross Shopping Centre, Clondrinagh Clonconare, Ennis Road, Limerick.
Im guessing the developers are probably fairly pissed that they can get permission for this but not their retail extension!
I like that Coonagh Cross office proposal – it hides the ugly Tesco SC behind it – it also reminds me a little of the office building at the front of the Raheen ind est – still mostly unoccupied after how many years ?
@Griff wrote:
I like that Coonagh Cross office proposal – it hides the ugly Tesco SC behind it – it also reminds me a little of the office building at the front of the Raheen ind est – still mostly unoccupied after how many years ?
Have to disagree Griff. I think its very poor
iv noticed over the past few weeks that there are a few more cranes up by the parkway valley, are things moving on again? i counted around ten at peak construction then it was reduced to about 4 now theres about 7..
@D-A-V-E wrote:
iv noticed over the past few weeks that there are a few more cranes up by the parkway valley, are things moving on again? i counted around ten at peak construction then it was reduced to about 4 now theres about 7..
I don’t ever remember 4?
has that development off henry st stopped alltogether? it looks like nothing has been done for the past few weeks now! any pics of the refurbishment of the bank on the corner of bedford row and o’connell st?
@D-A-V-E wrote:
has that development off henry st stopped alltogether? it looks like nothing has been done for the past few weeks now! any pics of the refurbishment of the bank on the corner of bedford row and o’connell st?
Yeah the work at the GPO has stopped.
Real shame.http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055427399&page=2
Traders livelihoods “not threatened†by new market
Anne Sheridan
The livelihood of traders at the Milk Market will not be under threat when the new 6 day market opens in mid 2010. However the costs of having a stall is likely to rise, according to the market trustees.
Some traders had expressed concern that they would not be in a position to produce goods and man stalls over a six-day market. But David O’Mahony, chairman of the market trustees said every current trader will be facilitated each Saturday – their traditional day of trading – in the new market.
“This is an opportunity for them. Their livelihoods will be enhanced, not threatened. Traders ability to attend a six – day market was never in the frame,†Mr O’Mahony told the Limerick Leader.
Responding to claims that the market would be “a sophisticated machine, taking away its rough and ready characterâ€, he said the new design is also about facilitating the wishes of customers as well as traders.
A seasonal calendar of events and stalls for the Mil Market is being prepared, which will see a diversity of new and old traders attend on different days of the week, excluding Monday when the market will be closed. “But it wont take away from the Saturday market†said Mr O’Mahony.
However he confirmed that the cost of having a stall at the market on Saturday – which is currently €20 – is likely to increase. “Prices haven’t been changed at the market since 2003, so it would be fair to assume that there would be change, but nothing outrageous,†He said.
He added that he would be interested to hear traders expectations of what the price should be. Chris O’Connor, development co-ordinator with the project, also said they have no intention of charging €100, or “anything near that†for a stall, which is the amount paid by traders in other markers in the country.
Mr O’Connor said the opening of the market would be “a national eventâ€, and those in the food industry, including Darina Allen and Minister for Food Trevor Sargent have supported the ideals behind the new market.
It has been confirmed that the size of the new units will be in the region of 3 metres by 2.5 metres, which would increase the size of the stall, especially as vehicles would no longer be permitted in the new market.
A number of traders have opposed aspects of the €2 million redevelopment plan, which will see the market covered with a tensile roofing, designed by a specialist company in Munich, Germany.
However plans to launch a judicial review – to overturn An Bord Pleanala’s decision to grant planning – are still afoot.
@Tuborg wrote:
A number of traders have opposed aspects of the €2 million redevelopment plan, which will see the market covered with a tensile roofing, designed by a specialist company in Munich, Germany.
I wonder instead of using PVC sheets, could they nick some of that glass tensile roof from the Olympic Park and bring it with them to the Milk Market. :rolleyes:
Bedford Row ~ Cinema Complex ~ Fordmount / Burke Kennedy Doyle Architects
In City Central Phase Two Fordmount are planning to attract leisure and food operators to Bedford Row in order to create a shopping synergy with the primarily fashion based tenant mix evident in City Central Phase One. Plans are currently in design phase for a state of the art cinema complex with a number of complimentary retail & food units at street level.
The development will be designed by Burke Kennedy Doyle Architects who are responsible for delivering several of Limerick City’s showcase developments such as Riverpoint, The Marriott Hotel and Lansdowne Hall on O’Callaghan Strand. Plans will be launched in early 2009.
I found this on Fordmount’s new web site. Long, long overdue for the city centre and recession proof on top of that. Anybody got anything new on this?
Image of site figr0ll
The corner point should be high profile and tapering up to at least 7/8 storey’s at. the corner stil needs to have a gateway view onto Bedford row. I hope it aims for the same height and density as the Marriot also. I’m confident the arcitect will come up with perfect design for this project. Limerick city centre woulfd be great if they could new developments within 5 to 11 stories, like Paris.
This scheme is very exciting Ihave to say. Limerick is crying out for a real shopping experience in the city. The cinmema would give a much needed bu to the city footfall.
P.S how finished is the hanging gardens, is there any signs to finish it? There another building going ahead on a corner site. Its meant to be of over 5 stories? Could they not aim higher since Henry street ranges from 4 eo 11 stories. Corer sits should always be higher.
Can anyone give me an update on developments in the city centre? Any applications going for planning permission.
@CologneMike wrote:
I wonder instead of using PVC sheets, could they nick some of that glass tensile roof from the Olympic Park and bring it with them to the Milk Market. :rolleyes:
This structure really is breathtaking isn’t it? I hope they get it right in the milk market – it could be a really amazing addition to the city.
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