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I seriously think that the Glanmire – Watergrasshill section of road should be upgraded to motorway aswell as Cork to Carrigtohill. Ballincollig Bypass could easily be upgraded too.
Nice to see that the Kinsale Roundabout Flyover opened up yesterday.
Most annoying though is that you can’t access the flyover from the Pouladuff road exit.
Anyone know if the Motorway designation will be extended from Watergrasshill to the top of Glanmire.
The road is of equal quality as the stretch of Motorway presently being built, a centre divider has recently been put up and there is an optional route for L drivers and tractors to take.
Both options for the Cork Northern Ring Road had a tunnel on the Glanmire end to preserve the “natural look of the area”.
Anyways, I’m fairly interested as to what sort of a junction will be used where the North Ring Road meets the N8 north of Glanmire. To my mind, it has to be a similar slip road system as being used where the Ringaskiddy road meets the South Ring Road in Rochestown.
Sadly such foresight doesn’t form part of the NRA mindset and I wouldn’t be suprised if they went for some ludicrous roundabout laden mash of a thing being integrated with the Glanmire flyover junction.
If you ask me, the gridlcok in certain areas of cork is due to bad interchanges.
None is worse than the Dunkettle Interchange.
Instead of having a roundabout, why not have a complete set of sliproads ala the American system.
rebel_city wrote:The front page of the http://www.eveningecho.ie today has an article about a €]Lets hope it is true. That amount of money would put up a nice stadium. Just think that the work done on Gaelic Grounds in Limerick only cost 9m.
Does anyone really expect the GAA to knock Pairc Ui Caoimh and start a fresh with a top class stadium. I for one don’t.
browser. Agree with you there. The whole thing needs to be knocked to the ground.
As it stands, all the bench seats you talk of are actually gone and have all be replaced with bucket seats. They fucked up big time though. Its now almost impossible to sit in them due to a lack of leg room and I’m only 5 foot 9. Worse than that, to increase leg room, they cut the top off of each individual seat. What a joke it is.
IMO, the whole thing should be razed to the ground and start again.
I would actually go down the German route on all of this. Dortmund have a very good stadium setup. As it stands, they have terracing behind each goal which can easily be turned into seats for all seater events such as the world cup. All you have to do if flip up all the seats which disappear under the terracing when terracing is wanted.
This would be ideal for a rebuilt Pairc Ui Chaoimh. Say, 55,000 capacity when terracing and 40,000 when all seater. Nice setup as we GAA fans like a lively terrace on match days and obviously UEFA and the likes don’t like terraces on match days.
Blazin accross the Examiner this morning about the GAA purchase of some of the show grounds behind Pairc Ui Caoimh. Anyone know exactly what the GAA have in for Pairc Caoimh,
I’ve heard of a 2nd tier being built where the covered stand it now and for the entire stadium to be roofed.
@lexington wrote:
Cork Metropolitan Rail Service
Interestingly in the EIS for the Midelton-Glounthane line is Cork County Council’s proposed network of commuter and suburban rail services for the Metropolitan Cork area by 2020. It will be interesting to see if these materialise in such dynamic form. I, personally, remain a firm believer in strategy which reduces dependcies on vehicular traffic and in the provision of an efficient, clean and accessible public transport system within major urban areas. With Cork county population, under M1F2 scenario CSO projections (April 2005) for 2020/1 estimated to be well over 600,000 (where this figured is derived from the subtraction of Kerry population figure inclusion and represents a loose estimate) – surely such a system is warranted. The ability to deliver is questionable.
The first image is Cork County Council’s own proposal for such a system:
The 2nd is a possible alternative option I have simply messed about with:
The primary variations here are related to the West Cork line – where the Macroom line originates at a city centre/south docklands station and proceeds along the South City Link to Black Ash P&R before skewing west toward Bishopstown/Wilton (where it goes underground) until it reaches the proposed Bandon Roundabout P&R – here, the line is divided heading west (blue) along the Ballincollig By-Pass to Ballincollig and Macroom, and south toward Bandon (grey).
Lex, what’s the liklihood of all these line extnesions and reopenig ever happening.
I’d imagine that there would be big problems with a Fermoy line as no previous line has ever existed. IIRC the Fermoy line came from Mallow.
@POM wrote:
The Jacob’s roof looks totally out of sync with the rest of the quay and looks cheap with a tin-sheeting type material. This is destined to be a luxury boutique hotel, I’ll wait to the see the finished product before commenting further. It is interesting the this and the Kingsley extensions were both designed by Murray O’Loaire Associates, both built by the same construction company and both owned by the same individual. I pass the Kingsley everyday on the way home and I still can’t get over how the aparthotel was approved without some sort of enchanced treatment. Are they planning on matching the paintwork at the Kingsley?
Dallas you also raise an interesting point, how is it that schemes like the one proposed for Water Street are knocked and hassled the whole way through planning, then brought to appeal which its been in or rather will be in for over a year and will probably come out a lesser proposal at the end of it all, while other schemes like those mentioned whizz through without the same degree of grief.
There’s far too much focus on building height and not enough focus on the materials and looks of the building. The roof on that is a complete disgrace. And let I add that it took them at least 12 months just to get to the stage where they are at now.
Lex, it will be interesting to see what they will do with the 2 lanes leading down the sides of Paul Street Shopping centre, especially the one down the side of Bully’s Restaurant.
I really can’t see how the lane can possibley be improved as one side is the entire side wall of the shopping centre.
@corcaighboy wrote:
The Terminus for the Youghal Line was originall on Summerhill North but changed to Kent when that station opened.
.I’m guessing this is why there is an extension to the Youghal line which passes over the tunnel with the Dublin line ?
@kite wrote:
🙂 Forgive me if im wrong on this, i think that Albert Quay House / Howard Holdings Webworks building was the station for the Bandon line.
Oh, so the line didn’t go all the way into Kent. Prob makes more sense. So the line ran down the South Link Road and then along the South Ring Road ?
Did that train station also serve the Mahon line ?
@Radioactiveman wrote:
I’d rather see the viaduct carrying trains to west cork again but nonetheless, i’m intrigued by this idea. It certainly deserves to be cleaned and floodlit to act as a real gateway.
Tell me one thing though, where is the original rail line that ran from the train station to the start of the viaduct. I’m a bit too young to remember it in action but I can’t work out through which parts of the city it ran and where it crossed the Lee.
If its gone, I hardly think train services to Bandon will ever reappear.
Anyone know whats the story with that Food Emporium development on Fr Mathews Quay ? Work started their more than a year ago now. So far all they’ve managed to do is gut it, put a new roof on and do most of the load bearing internal structures. That’s all. A year to do this. Is there a reason for the huge hold up ?
Also, anyone know anything about the proposed redevelopment of Douglas Village Shopping Centre.
@lexington wrote:
😎 Businessman Ulick McEvaddy (of Omega Air fame) speaking at the National Infastructure Summit in Sandyford last Tuesday/Wednesday (16th and 17th of May 2006) issued his beliefs on the planning of infastructure in Ireland noting that he believes the country should approach the issue with a strategic outlook of 50 years and beyond. Mr. McEvaddy noted his belief that both Dublin and Cork city would require a metropolitan underground system over the next 50 years. The idea of such a system is casually laughed at and dismissed – indeed, under current economic thinking the financial justification for such a system in Cork is often void. However, perhaps this is short-term thinking. My personal view is that the city must and should consider a strategic, integrated public transport system (initiated by both public and private bodies) that will allow bus, rail, light-rail and even water-bus networks interconnect on single ticket sales. The prospect of a whole underground rail system in Cork is indeed excessive – and unrequired – but in providing efficient and utilised services, the prospect of certain areas (like beneath Wilton/Bishopstown/CUH area) being provided with intermittent underground would indeed be suited – before resurfacing at say, Bishopstown Court (which may have a linked Park and Ride for West Cork commuters) and proceeding over-ground out to Ballincollig. The systems could interlink with docklands serving water-buses (which could proceed from Kennedy Quay to Univeristy College Cork main campus – providing a connection between established and a prospective campus at the docklands) and commuter rail services at Horgan’s Quay to Midleton, Cobh, Mallow and Blarney.
Along with the idea of a River Lee Flood Barrier (which will become essential in protecting both Cork city island and prospective developments/investments in the Docklands – which will become increaingly a particularly vulnerable area to flooding) – I believe we need to start thinking in this manner and stop dismissing such thought as unviable or unrealistic.
What ever does become of a future transport system for Cork, I hope that Cork doesn’t take the Dublin route of using a whole mish mash of transport systems.
In my mind, Dublin is a bit of a joke. It has, normal rail to some suburbs, DART to other places, Dublin Bus, LUAS and will soon have some form of Metro.
Cork should either go all LUAS or go all Metro. I would like to see it go all Metro if possible. It by far the cleaner option and keeps Trams etc off of the streets, helping to reduce traffic more than any LUAS system could. Sure, it would cost extra, but the benefits would be massive.
Anyone know anything about the Xchange bar and Compuworld store sites on Georges Quay ?
Compustore have packed up out to Turners Corss while the Xchange bar closed up last week.
Lex, I was actually hoping that UCC were going to completely renovate the Boole library considering the addition to the side which they are making.
They could at least do something to the outside which to me is just so ugly. New panelling wouldn’t be too expensive and would make the building look so much better, especially considering that its beside Aras Ui Rahilly which looks so much better.
