developments in cork
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- June 15, 2006 at 12:54 am #759633
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ParticipantI just want to express serious doubt that there is space on horgans quay for a 5000 seat arena. I just cant see on fitting into that long sliver of land. Has there been and plans drawn up for now one might fit in?
Secondly: Pairc ui Chaoimh. Is there enough space there either for a large stadium? Might it require some slight change in the orientation of the pitch? And would there be scope for a second tier because that would look pretty cool?
I remember the time when ireland was bidding for the Euro 2008 championships with scotland. I rember that there were three stadiums proposed for ireland and they were all in dublin. Anyone from abroad would see how Dublin-centric this government was not to have made an effort to have provided a stadium outside of dublin, not even in the second city. It would have left the rest of teh country almost totally out of the thing. Irelands comtribution alone was paltry compared to Scotlands 8 stadiums and none of irelands three suggested stadiums were definite (Bertie Bowl, Croke Park and landstown road(disallowed due to terracing)). To be honest there is only one top-class stadium in Ireland. I would be great if there was a brand new stadium built with good capacity and a striking design that was open for all sports. That however is unlikely. Very unlikely. Cork GAA officials letting soccer and rugby use PuC at their wish? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ah etc.oh and if a staduim was to be built i think it would go through the planning process fairly smoothly due to the lack of residents in close proximity to the stadium
June 15, 2006 at 11:02 am #759634rebel_city
ParticipantThe front page of the http://www.eveningecho.ie today has an article about a €100 redevelopment of PuC. I can’t copy the text on here as it is in a PDF format. It will be interesting to see what comes of this!
June 15, 2006 at 12:31 pm #759635Radioactiveman
ParticipantThe owners of the Millfield service station (Billy and Ciaran O’Riordan), adjacent to Blackpool Retail Park on the old Mallow Road are to apply for permission to replace the filling station with a mixed use development comprising a residential and a office/retail block with a height of 6 storeys. The site is in close proximity to Millfield cottages which are protected structures.
The development will contain 54 apartments with landscaped roof gardens and public and private gardens at ground level. Plans are for 4 commercial units in a seperate block, along with 11 office units.Red arrow (to extreme left of image) indicates approximate site location.
June 15, 2006 at 1:06 pm #759636Micko
Participantrebel_city wrote:The front page of the http://www.eveningecho.ie today has an article about a €]Lets hope it is true. That amount of money would put up a nice stadium. Just think that the work done on Gaelic Grounds in Limerick only cost 9m.
June 15, 2006 at 1:23 pm #759637Radioactiveman
Participant€ 100 !!!! You wouldnt get a bucket seat for that!! 😀
Here’s the piece from the echo.
June 15, 2006 at 4:24 pm #759638ewankennedy
ParticipantI wonder how advanced the GAA are actually on redevelopment plans for Pairc ui chaoimh. If it just suggestive we could be years away yet. And i also have to agree that in principle Horgans qy seems great for an event centre but the site seems to small and any centre there would seem very congested. I still think that the Showgrounds site at the western end could be better used for such a facility and the rest of the place could be a park.
June 16, 2006 at 3:10 pm #759639Anonymous
Inactivejust read in the paper the other day that as part of the docklands strategy there is to be something to be incorporated into the plan to attract more tourism to cork like a interactive science museam or something stupid like that!i think that they should stick to something reliable and something that is proven to work. As long as they think creative when planning the docklands and not as if they were planning some small scale development(which alot of the planners in cork seem to do on most projects) and give us a highly attractive waterfront especially as there is planning for a 27 story tower in drogheda and incorporate a temple bar type development maybe around the station square(as cork is also badly behind when it comes to nightclubs) and these factors together would make cork a very attractive place to market for a short break city getaway!
June 16, 2006 at 3:47 pm #759640Pug
Participantdaniel_7 wrote:just read in the paper the other day that as part of the docklands strategy there is to be something to be incorporated into the plan to attract more tourism to cork like a interactive science museam or something /Quote:an interactive science museum
a nationl design centre and
a national maritime museumJune 16, 2006 at 4:43 pm #759641Radioactiveman
Participant@daniel_7 wrote:
just read in the paper the other day that as part of the docklands strategy there is to be something to be incorporated into the plan to attract more tourism to cork like a interactive science museam or something stupid like that!………..and incorporate a temple bar type development maybe around the station square(as cork is also badly behind when it comes to nightclubs) and these factors together would make cork a very attractive place to market for a short break city getaway!
Whats so wrong with an interactive science museum? Every develped country has at least one, most many more….I guess we can always bring the kids to this ‘new temple bar’! No thanks.
June 16, 2006 at 4:51 pm #759642Bourgeoise
Participant@daniel_7 wrote:
just read in the paper the other day that as part of the docklands strategy there is to be something to be incorporated into the plan to attract more tourism to cork like a interactive science museam or something stupid like that!i think that they should stick to something reliable and something that is proven to work. As long as they think creative when planning the docklands and not as if they were planning some small scale development(which alot of the planners in cork seem to do on most projects) and give us a highly attractive waterfront especially as there is planning for a 27 story tower in drogheda and incorporate a temple bar type development maybe around the station square(as cork is also badly behind when it comes to nightclubs) and these factors together would make cork a very attractive place to market for a short break city getaway!
Certainly has to be some attraction other than the usual retail experience. Certainly a section of the national museum,maritime museum , aquarium or art gallery may help.
Cable car to top of Patricks Hill with a new park might help bring back the trams anything to get interest in the place.
Imagination has to be used with Cork and you can have huge nightclubs anywhere like the Temple Bar nightmare model.June 16, 2006 at 6:16 pm #759643Radioactiveman
ParticipantMarks and Spensers have been given permission for a new shopfront on St. Patricks Street. This is in keeping with recent refurbishment work done on the interior.
I’m off on holidays!! Hope to have lots of exciting news when I get back!
June 16, 2006 at 11:29 pm #759644PTB
ParticipantSorry Bourgeoise, where is there space for a cable car up patricks hill??
Like the idea of a maritime Musuem though
June 18, 2006 at 5:05 pm #759645theblimp
ParticipantJust a little interesting add-on to my earlier comments. This year’s Live at the Marquee has moved, I understand, from the Showgrounds to Howard Holding’s recently acquired ‘Ford Site’ alongside. Now my sources could be incorrect (although I doubt it) but it is ALLEGED that Mr. Gavin was one of the parties involved in convincing Aikens that such a move would be in their interests (It is BELIEVED that JG negotiated the HH site for Aikens at no cost, whereas the Showgrounds would have involved a payment), thus removing a valuable cash injection to a voluntary organisation, and aiding a commercial developer at the same time – all at a VERY interesting time in that part of the city. IF true, then perhaps my earlier comments could be viewed in a more informed light !
June 18, 2006 at 8:05 pm #759646kite
Participant@theblimp wrote:
Just a little interesting add-on to my earlier comments. This year’s Live at the Marquee has moved, I understand, from the Showgrounds to Howard Holding’s recently acquired ‘Ford Site’ alongside. Now my sources could be incorrect (although I doubt it) but it is ALLEGED that Mr. Gavin was one of the parties involved in convincing Aikens that such a move would be in their interests (It is BELIEVED that JG negotiated the HH site for Aikens at no cost, whereas the Showgrounds would have involved a payment), thus removing a valuable cash injection to a voluntary organisation, and aiding a commercial developer at the same time – all at a VERY interesting time in that part of the city. IF true, then perhaps my earlier comments could be viewed in a more informed light !
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The same names seem to crop up in Cork time and time again theblimp.
I share your concerns…enough said!!June 19, 2006 at 9:14 am #759647Bourgeoise
Participant@PTB wrote:
Sorry Bourgeoise, where is there space for a cable car up patricks hill??
Like the idea of a maritime Musuem though
Up in the air boy ! 🙂 Cork needs a few dynamic ideas in art,architecture create interest and excitement in a city with so much potential.
Or a tram system similar to Lisbon and San Francisco………???June 21, 2006 at 3:23 pm #759648Pug
Participantfrinaillas keating site is up for a decision today isnt it?
June 21, 2006 at 7:08 pm #759649kite
ParticipantABP overturned the decision of their Inspector and granted permission to Messrs Crowley and Paul to develop Riverside Farm on the Model Farm Road.
Cumnor Construction saw the overturning of an ABP inspector as well today to allow them develop the old convent site at the Ramparts, Kinsale.
June 21, 2006 at 7:49 pm #759650ISI
ParticipantPassed by jacobs Mill today. It looks like they are putting in really nasty, small white PVC windows.
June 21, 2006 at 8:02 pm #759651who_me
ParticipantGod, between the PVC windows and that awful roof, could they possibly have done a less sympathetic job on the place? I’d have expected a higher standard, especially given it’s location in one of Cork’s “signature views”, with Parliament bridge and the Holy Trinity church in the background.
June 21, 2006 at 8:57 pm #759652kite
Participant@who_me wrote:
God, between the PVC windows and that awful roof, could they possibly have done a less sympathetic job on the place? I’d have expected a higher standard, especially given it’s location in one of Cork’s “signature views”, with Parliament bridge and the Holy Trinity church in the background.
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Good Planning practice
X quality materials = Reasonable profits
Sympathy to existing buildingsAs opposed to…..
Bad Planning practice
X cheap materials = Massive profits +??
Not giving a damm to existing build structure(sorry, the copy and paste above did not come out as i tought it would)
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