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Class. The real problem is too many cars tearing through rural areas reducing the quality (and longevity) of people’s lives. The car like the economy are meant to serve man, in Ireland it seems we exist to serve cars and the economy.
Originally posted by Mob79
How very corbusian, have the people banished from the street, i like to see people out walking, and why do people thinks it’s so eccentric to walk a mile or two, it especially confounds me when the elderly gasp at walking this distance,… they grew up without cars!
With regards to walking infront of cars, why should 20-30 people wait on,..oh lets say the corner of stephens green, as 1 person passes by in a metal box. All hail the metal box.Sean, are you quite aware of what federalism means?
Are you aware that a fenderal state is a combination of states that have previously been independent. Which states should join this federation.Do you mean increasing the power of local government. If so would you be looking to aggregate counties or use the provincial system.
Federal government equates to extended bureaucracy, and the last thing we should be doing is to increase the number of bureaucrats. Abolishing the Seanad would be a good start imo.
Originally posted by Sean Carney
Well Jil my friend, I could also say what has the luas got to do with architecture, mmm!
Also Fedralism would benefit everywhere in Ireland including Dublin.FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR IRELAND NOW
Agreed. All parking on Pana should be banned, with the exception of buses and delivery vehicles.
Taxi drivers should be moved to Academy street
Originally posted by Pana01
Hmmm – looking forward to that BIG announcement, Lexington.Regarding that vile Portakabin, I have a bad feeling that it will be there forever. Why can’t these guys just have a ‘base’ at the bus station and be done with it? They’ve had it cushy for far too long.
I read on the Echo last night that the Taxi drivers were having a big meeting to discuss their problems, including the explosion in the numbers of Taxis in Cork – and – this is the best bit – their dissatisfaction at the way people were parking in the ‘new taxi ranks’ in Patrick Street, taking up their valuable rank space.
They are cluttering up Pana – please oust them to another location.
Thanks as always Lexington.
The parade is my favourite street in Cork, and I believe it has incredible potential. This street could become our first boulevard if developed correctly (and the traffic redirected of course. The national monument, the english market, the peace park and the width of the street all add to the streets wonderful feel. Unfortunately it has been a wip for far too long.
Singers Corner brings the whole street down and most would be glad to see this deconstructed and replaced (the georgian society will probably be up in arms again). Tobins Lane has also got great potential and I’m glad the Triskel are pumping some money into this site.
On another topic, can we petition anyone to have that hideous portacabin removed from Patrick street.
Originally posted by lexington
😉 A number of projects are taking place in and around Grand Parade at present and are planned for the future. Grand Parade has always been a traditionally important and vibrant Cork main street and has been earmarked as an important natural progression of the existing Patrick’s Street commerical core – along with Cornmarket Street.-> First, is the Grand Parade redevelopment, which has already begun its first phase, between Daunt Sqaure and Finns Corner, which is scheduled for a late September completion. The redevelopment has been designed by Beth Gali, who also designed the Patrick’s Street and Oliver Plunkett Street refurbishments and whom has been hired to begin design on the entire length of Grand Parade (schedule for initiation is as yet unknown).
-> A number of commercial developments are embracing the Grand Parade area. Most notably the Grand Parade Plaza retail and residential development (see post above for images) on the site of the old Grand Parade Hotel linked to South Main Street. The project consists of a 7-storey over basement building designed by Richard Rainey – holding 50 apartments, incl. 3 roof-top penthouses, communal ‘sky-gardens’ throughout, a retail mall and underground car-parking. Almost ALL apartments (starting at 369,000 up) and ALL parking spaces (80,000 each) have been sold at this point.
-> J.D. Hotels Ltd, have applied to demolish the buildings at Singers Corner (except number 77 which will be refurbished) and along 1 – 9 Tobin’s Lane with a view to constructing a 4-storey late-night bar and restaurant w/ ancillary offices (see prev. post for more details).
-> The English Market is due for a renewal in the near future.
-> Not far from Grand Parade, John Mannix is awaiting a decision on a 7-storey over basement residential, retail and office development at 40-42 Washington Street.
-> At 50 Grand Parade, the Kenny Group is planning a mixed use, 7-storey development of 22-bedroom hotel, 35 duplexes, 141 multi-storey car-parking, retail centre, office development, cantiviliered boardwalk, 2 superpubs, restaurants and cafes – designed by RKD McCarthy and on the site of the former Citi Car Park (oddly re-opened for use not so long ago after a planning amendment to the project was withdrawn). I will update you on this when I can.
-> On Tobin Lane, the Triskel Arts Centre is currently undergoing a renovation and expansion. Cumnor Construction are on site.
-> But the ‘big-one’, is that which is in the pipeline for the 30,000 sq ft Capitol Cineplex site at the Grand Parade/Washington Street junction. (see previous post on this topic for more details). An announcement is expected on this site when Ward Anderson announce their relocation to the new 11-screen multiplex at the Mahon Point SC, late this September.
*UPDATES*:rolleyes: CCC have today received the Further Information they requested from Rockfell Investments regarding the major Cornmarket Street department store/residential development. A decision is now expected within 1 month.
Can anyone list the proposed list of developments for Grand Parade and provide a little info into each.
What’s happening with the redevelopment of the Parade?
Jury’s used to be great for free parking in the city.
QUOTE]Originally posted by corkdood
Not to mention their antiquated leisure centre with its swimming pool which was half indoor and half outdoor [/QUOTE]This is a superb development site, and I hope the new building doesn’t obscure the view of St. Finbarr’s as much as the existing building.
Are the plans tasteful in design?
Any indication as to Fleming’s plans with the Tramore Road site (adjacent to Turner’s Cross)?
Originally posted by lexington
Yeah, this is an accurate report – but it wasn’t supposed to be officially made until Wednesday. Nonetheless, as it is out now, you may as well know, Jury’s Hotel site was sold to O’Callaghan Properties for 3m euros almost 2 months ago. It is the company’s intention over the next 2 years (planning pending) to redevelop the site with a 185 bed hotel and conference centre, 300 apartments, 450 underground car parking spaces, and various ancillary services. Jury’s will lease back the new 4-star hotel over a 35 year lease agreement with an expected rent of over 2.1m a year. Though I was aware of that this deal and development had taken in place over the original plan (see previous posts), the loss of 250 jobs over the developments 2 year period is news to me. It had been my understanding that Jury’s intended to offer temporary posts to staff at other locations throughout the country or offer extended paid leave over successive periods. However, this understanding would seem is inaccurate. I have to say that I am very disappointed with Jury’s strategy. This development could easily have continued without such substantial losses of employment. However, the construction of the project will create 400 temporary jobs and the new 6-storey hotel will facilitate a further 320 jobs in the long-run. A mixed day for Cork development.
Further to corkdood’s questions, O’Flynn Constrution have secured a tenant for their new hotel. The name will be released soon.respect chap 🙂
The replacement is a mixed development which combines retail, leisure/gym, and appartment. No rave/live venue unfortunately.
With the ccc recent treatment of the Savoy theatre it is a mystery as to how Henrys was allowed to continue for so long, not that I’m complaining.Originally posted by d_d_dallas
No – boring apartments!Long live Henry’s!!!
Thanks Lexingotn. So will we finally see the end of those hideous warehouses on Albert Quay?
Any plans yet for the main docklands area next to the Grain Silos?
It’s great that the stench is finally gone from the lee in this area of town. I read somewhere that the docklands area will be suitable for bathers in the next few years. This is hard to believe but fantastic news for this area of Cork.
Has anyone heard anything about a proposed barge commuter service between city hall and Blackrock/Mahon?
I must say that I was very impressed with the rejuvenated Hugeneot district.
I’m also glad to hear that the former Methodist Church facing Waterstones is to get a new lease of life. This is a beautiful period building with immense potential.
Originally posted by lexington
Howard Holdings have proposed to develop a 15m – 20m euro IT/Office building, 5-stories over basement on Albert Quay. They’ve no project planned for Alfred Street (by the Railway Station) that I am aware of. The Albert Quay office building is being constructed on a site, directly across the river from their City Quarter development, and will incorporate Albert House (the Parking Fines building).UCC have hired Cumnor Construction to refurbish their buildings at the Lee Maltings (a process in mid-swing). Work on their new 20m euro School of Pharmacy on College Road has begun, with initial clearing taking place currently. Pierse Construction begin primary work at the end of August, early September.
On the Lee Road, UCC have hired Sisk Construction to build the new Environmental Research Institute. Designed by Bucholz McAvoy Architects. The 3-storey, “environmentally friendly” building is at an advance stage, as anyone passing the extensive construction site and tower crane will tell you. The site was donated by CCC.
Work on a 62m euro UCC IT and Computer Centre at the former Greyhound Track on the Western Road is scheduled to begin at a preparitive stage come late 2005, depending on planning.
The houses across the way from the Greyhound Track on the Western Road are mostly in private ownership, there is no real story with them. However the 6 terraced houses at Carmelite Place, which are currently boardered up, were scheduled to be demolished as part of a 4-storey over basement car-park development for 20 student apartments, however planning for this project was refused on grounds of scale and inappropriate use.
No.6 Lapps Quay, along with No.5, City Quarter, the dismal but nonetheless refurbishment Bus Station, the Albert Quay office development, O’Flynn Construction’s major retail/residential development at Eglinton Street, 32m euro City Hall Extension, 60m Cork School of Music, Corbett Bros. Office Development at Copley Street, Howard Holdings’ Copley Hall, the South Infirmary’s new Breast Check Clinic at South Terrace and a number of other major development and rejuvenation projects are really gonna make this area of the city exceptionally attractive now and in the near future. Especially considering, all the above projects lay at the mouth of the new docklands development.
Lexingon, do you have any further info on Howard Holdings latest proposed development on Alfred Street… this should be a good indication as to what to expect in terms of the regeneration in the area?
I was in the city at the weekend and I must say I am very impressed by the new art gallery in UCC, but very disappointed that this took priority over the greyhound track development. This site is now derelict for over six years. If I recall correctly this site sold for a huge sum. It’s typical of UCC. Their buildings on the Western Road and the Maltings are in very bad shape and at least in need of a lick of paint.
What’s the story with the row of houses across the street from the greyhound track?
Does anyone know what is being built on the Lee Road opposite the Lee Towers?
Number 6 Lapps Quay looks great, and it seems as if it will also revive Clontarf street which is quickly becoming one of the most impressive streets in the city.
On the subject of Taxi drivers in Cork, my impression is that in general (exceptions to every rule of course) they are a disgrace in the city. Their cabs are filthy and they can never seem to queue in any kind of order. They also believe that they can launch into conversations without invitation. CCC should have conditions attached to licensing.
On another topic, Parking should be banned from Pana 24/7 asap.
And I agree, taxis and buses are acting unfairly and aggressively toward pedestrians, who have priority, on both Patrick’s Street and Maylor Street. It is a shame on the authorities for not pursuing the offenders for dangerous driving more vigourously. [/B][/QUOTE]
Hey Lexington have you seen the evening echo’s front page?
http://www.eveningecho.ie/pdf/front.pdf
This is going to be extremely important in the continued rise of Cork. Let’s hope they get the accoustics right.
weren’t debenhams interested before they chose mahon point?
Originally posted by d_d_dallas
Oh oh – Heatons and Shaws are “department stores”… if they moved in to Guy’s that would cement Cornmarket St/North Main St area’s reputation as decidedly low rent.
CCC need to be careful what kind of retail operator get’s in. High quality international tenants are required at that end of Pat St if the area is to stand a fighting chance. Insisting on “department store” might be unwise, as it’s Cork we’re talking about. Selfridges are hardly banging on the door!Anybody got a link to this story? I couldn’t find it in the archives.
-> No news on the German bank for the docklands. There are many multimillion euro deals currently being organised within City Hall at the moment with relation to the docklands in Cork, one report (by Tommy Barker of Irish Examiner, Thurs 8th July 2004) is rumoured to be in excess of 200m euro. The German bank residency could depend on the outcome of any one of these deals.
Transatlantic flights are crucial to our attempts to attract software and financial operations to the city, which is imperative if we are to seriously launch our city as a true business city.
In a previous post Lexington mentioned German banks being interested in relocating Leeside, have you heard anything since?
Did Frinilla get planning permission for their proposed development for Watercourse Road?
Have Howard Holdings released any info of their proposed Albert Quay development?
Originally posted by lexington
Yep – here is a CG picture of the soon to be refurbished Cork Bus Station. After months and years of negotiation, the build-up, the excitement, the possibilities – sigh…how very CIE.
This is a disgrace.
A superb large city centre property with river frontage and this is what cie do to it… this is disgusting. No wonder this company are in financial dire straits. Off the cuff how much could they have realised by redeveloping this site with a private developer (for example O’Callaghans who could’ve connected the site to Merchants quay).Why do the local politicians just accept this crap from a semi-state? Why such slow progress on Horgan’s quay, where are the elected representatives???
a 7 storey development in Sundays Well is criminal. This is one of the nicest areas of Cork City and should be preserved in its present shape. Road access is a nightmare at present, and this will make it worse.
Thanks as always for the insights Lexington.
Also exciting -> O’Flynn Construction’s Retail/Residential development on Eglinton Street.
— Don’t you think that this would also be a great site for an event centre.
there are rumours that one of Cork’s major pharma giants w/ a plant at Cork Harbour, is looking into the possibility of constructing it’s European and Middle-Eastern HQ at a brand new, purpose built 90,000 sq ft office building in the Kennedy Quay region.
— Haven’t Novartis had planning applications rejected – Johnson & Johnson have three separate sites in Ireland (Depuy, Alza & Janssen) and are looking at consolidation of their current activities, so I’m guessing it’s one of these.
while we’re on the topic, the 1 new project that sparks zero excitement with me is the Cork City Hall Extension. The words ‘utterly’ and ‘dire’ spring to mind. Architects = ABK.
— Do you have any images of this?
