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It’s lonely in here without Lexington 🙂
I hope he’s back for the Water Street planning announcement, and the Eglinton Road announcement (although he already seems to know what’s gonna be built).
Anyone seen yesterday’s echo in relation to the county council’s draft plan for the growth of the Cork metropolitan region? Is it all pie in the sky for now or is there any meat to it?
“this important and popular area is a valued historical record of economic deprivation, crime and recession and the unremarkable, therefore it demands preservation”. [/B][/QUOTE]
Which really translates as “how dare this little village have the tenacity to try to create a commercial core to rival anything in our fine pale”. CCC seem to really be behind this, so let’s hope our local politicians put the foot down on this one.
Strange to see that construction still hasn’t commenced on the School of Music, which seems to have gone all quiet now that there aren’t any elections looming… when is the by-election for Coveney’s seat due?
I’m really looking forward to the Eglinton Road announcement, O’Flynns track record is quite good in terms of quality.
Why do we always compare our towns with England… aren’t there any other countries we’d like to compare/model ourselves? Shall we always be in the shadow of the ‘mainland’?
Let’s start to compare ourselves with other emerging nations such as Spain/Portugal/Hungary…
Originally posted by kefu
You have to be retarded not to get a pint in Dublin at one in the morning. I thought opening hours in London were more limited. No???These appear very similar to Harty’s Quay in design.
Has there been any developments in relation to the Cornmarket Street Planning application.
Originally posted by lexington
One of the most overlooked but largest development projects currently at construction phase is Jacob’s Island – part of the Mahon Point lands (jointly bought from Cork Corp. by O’Callaghan Properties & McCarthy Developments. Whereas O’Callaghan Properties have developed the commercial element of the Mahon Point lands (44875sq m shopping centre, adjoining 11 screen multiplex, retail park, hotel and planned convention centre), McCarthy Developments have focused on the waterfront lands across the N25 for residential purposes, Jacob’s Island. Directly across the Douglas River and Atlantic Pond, on the Rochestown waterfront, McCarthy Developments are also developing the 160-unit, lavish Harty’s Quay.Ridge Developments (contractors to both Jacob’s Island and Harty’s Quay) today erected their first tower crane on site at Jacob’s Island as part of their commencement on the taller waterfront residential buildings. In total, the Jacob’s Island project consists of the construction of 431 residential units made up of; 160 houses and duplex units consisting of 15 no. five bedroom two and three storey detached houses; 7 no. four bedroom two storey detached houses; 16 no. four bedroom three storey semi/terraced houses; 26 no. three or four bedroom two storey semi detached houses; 18 no. two and three bedroom two storey terraced courtyard houses. Also the proposed residential development includes the construction of 78 no. duplex units in 6 no. blocks of three and four storey with; 46 no. two bedroom apartments; 32 no. three bedroom duplex town houses with surface carparking for 87 no. cars; and 271 residential apartments on 8 no. blocks in 4 four storey; 1 five storey and 3 six storey buildings comprising of; 50 no. one bedroom; 212 no. two bedroom; and 9 no. three bedroom apartments with basement car parking for 408 cars with ancillary bicycle/refuse storage facilities, boardwalks and extensive public amenity areas.
Architects for Jacob’s Island are Project Architects, The Priory, John’s Street, Dublin 8. (the same architects responsible for Mahon Point Shopping Centre).
Harty’s Quay imagesThanks Satanta for the info, but I’m looking for actual developments taking place or in planning, rather than what the ccc would like to see happen. I’m looking for info really on projects that are close to realisation, projects such as the Howard Holdings/O’Flynns for Albert Quay/Eglinton Street.
Centre Parks Road and the Marina have the advantage of a genuinely beautiful setting (if you ignore the actual architecture and concentrate on the leafy riverside setting). I really hope that the regeneration of this area will be realised, ’cause it needs redevelopment as much as Horgan quay.
It seems that the majority of the Docklands activity to date is centred around Horgan’s quay and areas either north or west of the docklands. Has anyone heard of any activity on the South side of the docks, for example centre parks road?
The highlighting of the litter issue will be a catalyst for improving on the litter problem. Patrick street needs to be cleaned during the day, and not just in the mornings and evenings.
Originally posted by Leesider
corkdood as far as know it is more student apartments, heard it is supposed to be starting soon enough. I am sure Lexington will have more info for you!On the subject of litter, I was home a few weeks ago and thought the place was beginning to look alot better, suppose with the amount of wrok going on in streets as Oliver Plunkett St, it is bound to create a bad initial impression!
Why don’t we start a petition
a. to see the removal of the bus shelter from pana
b. to encourage the ccc to powerhouse the renovated city centre at least once a month
c. to remove the parking spaces from panaanyone got the technical skill to launch an on-line petition?
Originally posted by Pana01
With all the recent press about the wonderful new look Patrick Street, I couldn’t believe the headlines on todays news saying that Cork was the dirtiest city in Ireland, and that Pana was ‘filthy’.Bishop Lucey Park and Oliver Plunkett Street were also singled out for criticism. One good point was that the city council were told to get their act together – and not before time. They seem to have no pride in Cork at all.
The level of chewing gum spat upon our streets is a disgrace, some people have total disregard for the area. Sorry to rant on again, but another reason Pana looks filthy is overflowing litter bins (Hello City Council – do you think you can EVER address this situation, it’s going on as long as I can remember – do you ever have meetings and put plans in place to address issues???)
Also the 4 or 5 new taxi ranks clogging up the street, and allowing 20-30 car park spaces there is another joke. Oh, and while I’m at it, why are loading bays allowed to operate until 6pm on Saturdays, our busiest shopping days?? Crazy – and on Saturdays, 90% of the time they are occupied by abandoned vehicles anyway. Who really delivers on Saturday afternoons, clogging up the main street?
Finally, as I walked along Maylor St on Saturday afternoon, I was bullied out of the way by a ‘people carrier’. I said to the driver ‘this is pedestrian only until 5pm’. I can’t repeat his reply here, but why is there never any Gardai stopping these people?
A person on the know has told me that O’Callaghan’s have been guaranteed the new city centre event centre. Has anyone else heard anything in relation to this?
Originally posted by lexington
Here are just some interesting images of Howard Holdings City Quarter development on Lapps Quay. Unfortunately, these images don’t include the surrounding recent developments at No.5 and No.6 Lapps Quay, nor the redeveloped Bus Station and plan for Custom House Quay. They also pre-date the addition of a 6th floor to the office element of the project, but they provide a good idea of what the completed project will look like.
Totally agreed Sean about the need for investment in sport in the provinces, and I don’t just mean Cork, Galway and Limerick.
If we want to win at the olympics we’re going have to spend the money on youth, and make sure that the facilities are also there for teens. In fact we are an outstanding nation for underage athletes/sportspeople, but that success hasn’t been see at senior level, and we all know that this has as much to do with lack of infrastructure (coaching systems more so than physical infrastructure) as well as the good old Irish curse (cure).Thank Christ we have the comedy of you’re a star to protect us from hosting the eurovision ever again 🙂
Millstreet… what a tragic location for anything, but the guy has shown there is a market outside of Dublin for a whole variety of productions from sport to theatre.
Originally posted by GregF
Well done Mickeydocs & Co….well how about the Eurovision then….for Millstreet of course again?I managed to have a discussion with a certain director within the company. The site has a sign located on it which indicates clearly the intention of a ‘MAJOR RETAIL/RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT’ – but O’Flynn Construction are remaining more tight-lipped on this project than any other.
*UPDATES*😉 Speculation within development circles continues to mount – though cautiously I might add – about a large-scale redevelopment, renovation and extention of an existing Cork cultural institution.
Is this for everyman 😉
[/B][/QUOTE]I’d be surprised if there is any retail element to this… surely office and appartments are more in keeping with this area…
Quote:Originally posted by GregF
I don’t think it would be possible at the moment to stage anything of major sporting importance here, realistically speaking. We are too lethargic and lack optimistic vision. Our facilities are Zilch! If money were to be spent on such projects the bleeding heart brigade would be complaining about lack of hospital beds, the homeless, the buses, the weather etc….I do not agree with you that complaining about the cost of staging a major sporting event does not make me a bleeding heart, nor does it say that I lack ‘optimistic’ vision.
Ireland will only develop into a true first world nation with considerable expenditure in all areas of our infrastructure. The most notable areas of need include transport (public and private), health and education. All of these areas require investment long before we can even contemplate the massive expenditure required to host the olympics.
In the next few years we will have two major stadia in our country of four million people. There are also a number of other well established venues. Sport is very important to the people of Ireland. The major sports in this country are football, gaelic football, hurling and rugby. We hold our own in both rugby and football, and the gaa is a shining example of amateur sport to the whole world. There is plenty of vision in all of these organizations, and the general level of professionalism is improving.
With the correct investment in our country we will lay the foundation for a nation to be proud of, and a nation which has risen from a very deep rooted recession which lasted throughout a generation. Our school/health/transport system will all be top notch if we continue the investment already underway in the NDP.
To waste 9 billion on an event, with very little follow on benefits would not be an act of optimism, it would be an act of the very highest ostenation, we would waste all of our tax money just to show the world that we are capable of hosting an event that will be remembered for 12 months at best, and what then.
I am not a bleeding heart… I am a believer in the potential of this nation. My optimism is well founded, and I believe that we can become leaders in technology & bio-technology as well as financial services. We are slowly starting to build cities that reflect our new found optimism. We are not stupid enough to throw all our resources at a corporate marketing event.
Maybe in 25 years time when all our investment has reaped a better state, but until then I certainly do not want my tax money squandered on a frivolous event such as the Olympics.
So you’d be willing to waste 8-9 billion euros on a sporting event. Does the Olympics deserve priority over our health system and road and rail infrastructure. Is it more important than building schools and improving our college system.
More importantly is it a more pressing need than developing a sports infrastructure that will allow our children to safely participate in sport at a local level in every community in the state.
As a regular visitor to Greece I am absolutely appalled at the Greek Government’s decision to waste so much money on such an event at a time when they are beginning to feel the economic reality of european expansion (central and eastern european countries winning all of the fdi that they had become accustomed to).
Put it this way, do you believe Greece, with a population of 11 million people and an average industrial wage of €11,000 can afford to spend €9,000,000,000.00 on a sporting event.
I hope that the EU takes a good look at this and significantly reduces the infrastructural funds they have been pouring into Greece.
The Olympics is only good for sponsors. The Australian government has publicly admitted that the Sydney Olympics had very little net benefit for their country.
And please don’t give me the argument that the legacy will be world class stadia and sporting facilities… 9 billion on such facilities seems an awful lot of money in a country that is in a far graver economic reality to Ireland.
Originally posted by rgalvin
What does everyone think about the possibility of a Dublin&Belfast Olympics in 2016/2020?? Just for the laugh wonder what the possibilities could be given that between both cities we may have/be able to build enough venues and accommodate enough spectators. Also bring the dual funding of Irish and British Governments?Just a thought if London doesn’t get it in 2012!
😀Has the O’Flynn project got you excited?
Originally posted by lexington
*UPDATES*-> The Citi-West Statoil Service Station at Victoria Cross is being dismantled as we speak, this is to make way for Paul Montgomery and Edmund Kenneally’s Phase 2 of the Victoria Mills Student Accomodation development. The 1st Phase is nearing completion. The Phase 2 element will cater for 132 more bedspaces, underground parking and a 3000sq ft ground floor commercial unit. Planning was granted by ABP after Third Party appeal.
-> John F. Supple Contractors have erected a crane over the old city Waterworks on the Lee Road. The builders were awarded the 5m euro contact for CCC as part of their plan to develop the site as a Sustainable City Campus Project.
-> The final PJ Walls tower crane at CUH’s new 62m euro Maternity Wing has been dismantled. The new wing, designed by O’Riordan Staehli Architects, will open next year. Those in Bishopstown who were growing fond of the tower cranes which became almost a recognised element of the suburbs sky-line won’t have long to wait to see another 2 at least be erected over the new 85m Renal/Cardiac unit at CUH which was just given the financial and planning go-ahead. Construction starts next year and will take 2 years to complete with an opening date scheduled for early 2008.
-> Meanwhile, closer to the city centre, The Mercy University Hospital, which recently purchased the Distillery Lee Fields adjacent to its main hospital building for 20m euro with UCC, has had plans drawn up for a new 6-level multi-storey car-park on their new land across the river. The drawings were provided by Reddy O’Riordan Staehli Architects. However, developer Sean Meehan has recently applied for planning to construct a 3-level underground/under-river car-park at Grenville Place, designed by John Paul Lennon, right outside the door of the Mercy. Neither finance nor permission has yet been sought by the Mercy Hospital for their project, which will include a new footbridge, consultation rooms and urology unit. Sean Meehan’s project intends to incorporate a new vehicular access bridge off the quay side which then loops back into the quay wall and underground. The development will also provide commercial units and consultation rooms. Currently, the planning application is labelled incomplete, a re-issued application is expected soon.
And to mickeydocs, can’t say who it was, but trust me – it’s very reliable as the director I was talking with is overseeing the Eglinton Street project.Thanks as always for the info… is there any chance of information being sent to individual e-mails. Confidentiality will be guaranteed.
Were you speaking to Michael then?
Originally posted by lexington
Cork Airport is to receive 4 additional European routes with Aer Lingus, who will now base 3 Airbus A320s to serve Munich, Rome, Faro and Nice. In addition, Aer Lingus have announced they intend to increase frequencies and capacities on their existing European routes to Barcelona and Milan, as well as Amsterdam and London Heathrow. This is good news for Cork Airport who continues to see exceptional growth on all its continental European routes. Some people, remain a little disappointed about a failure to announce transatlantic intentions – but I believe this is partially due to the hype spurred up by the local media before the announcement was officially made.
*UPDATES*Southlinch Theatres Ltd have received planning on appeal to re-open The Savoy Theatre as a nightclub. This is good news for Cork’s nightlife – as it has been a sorely missed venue among locals and will provide huge capacity for major entertainment events once again. 40 jobs are to be created as a result of this development.
-> Also, development group Lyonshall Ltd have announced the imminent construction of their 200m residential, educational and commercial development at the Ursuline Convent in Blackrock.
at least it’s increasing the number or routes… still hard to understand why they got rid of the cork-dublin flight (supposedly their second most profitable route).
Originally posted by Pana01
No major transatlantic news from the Cork Airport press conference today……
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Aer Lingus has announced plans to establish four new routes between Cork Airport and contintental Europe from next summer.The airline said it was planning to operate direct flights from Cork to Munich, Rome, Nice and Faro.
Aer Lingus already flies from Cork to seven other destinations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Our chamber of commerce seems to be excellent at lobbying the government for investment into the city. Why doesn’t it apply the same pressure to IAWS and other property owners sitting on vast tracts of prime development land.
And why hasn’t it spoken out against CIE’s inactivity in relation to Horgan’s Quay. Is anyone actively demanding activity in relation to this site? Are CIE holding out for a property down-turn? My impression was that this badly managed, appallingly run semi-state is in need of all the financial aid it can get its hands on. Surely the sale/redevelopment of Horgan’s quay will bring in mega-bucks… oh I forgot, the government will back them up financially regardless of their performance.
Heuston Station has had two overhauls in the last ten years, while the CIE continue to drag their heels in relation to Cork. Where is our political will to make things happen? I admire the new City manager a great deal and would love to see him take on CIE in relation to this matter.
BTW, here’s hoping that Aer Lingus will finally announce Transatlantic flights from Cork today 🙂
Originally posted by satanta99
The portacabin on patricks st. is supposed to be only a temporary measure. I heard that the old bus conductors cabin is being restored and will be repositioned on the street in the future.I’d make the same assumption about that swedish retailer locating in either of these sites but I am also interested in the properties which have become vacant on Patricks st. The lease is for sale in the old pound city store and the lease has been sold in the carphone warehouse outlet. Also the newsagents across from merchants quay “the Favourite” appears to undergoing extensive reconstruction. These units may not have a large enought floor plate for the retailer mentioned above but might we see more international chains getting onto Patricks st. I know footlocker anounced a major expansion into the Irish market and so too did Starbucks.
It also coincides nicely with the redevelopment of Camden Quay and Lavitts Quay.
Any news on the examiner offices proposed site? Is it still for sale?
Originally posted by Irishtown
Cork – Coal Quay is closed until 6pm Wed 18th August
Updated: 18/08/2004 15:51:48This will be from it’s junction with Lavitt’s Quay and Kyrl’s Quay to facilitate the erection of the new pedestrian bridge. Limerick traffic coming from the west will be diverted onto Sheares St, Washington St and into St. Patrick’s St which will be two way for the duration of the work’s. Sign posting will be in place.
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Lex- you got any info?
