Look at de state of Cork, like!
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I saw images in the Indo last week. Considering it will be next to the Fire and Garda stations it would hardly be difficult to stand out as quality – and yet from the images…
I guess it might be one of those projects that MIGHT turn out better it the flesh. But for that price tag – I think something a bit better could have been rustled up.
The Patrick Street renewal was mentioned. The Beth Gaili designed refurbishment of Patrick Street is nice, but there are problems with some of the street furniture, particularly the rubbish bins. They lack the capacity of the older bins and are almost always overflowing with rubbish. They also appear to be porous, so that whenever it rains, a horrible sort of rubbish juice pours onto the pathway. They’ve only been in place for a few weeks but already the area around the bins is covered in a brown sticky residue. The corporation should consider replacing them, as they are completely inadequate.
Its strange that another planning application lodged by lidl has been refused. They also applied for permission for a development in Ballincollig West ( across from the L+N or Super Valu as its now called) Is this a concentrated effort to keep Lidl from gaining a strong foothold in the Cork area or as I believe a testement to the poor quality of design which Lidl employs for its stores.
Hopefully Local authorities are realising the impact these generic, utilitarian stores are having on towns throughout Ireland. Perhaps as a result Lidl will rethink their strategy and develop a higher quality mixed use development to serve as a sustainable neighbourhood centre. With such a strong name as an anchor in a scheme such as this I don’t see how such development would not yield a good investment return.
Aldi have lodged planning permisson for such a development on the former John A. Woods site in Ballincollig. Why can’t Lidl do the same elsewhere?Yea I noticed that digusting sticky brown residue on the ground too. U can also see it on the square stones to sit on? I’m not a geologist but might it be coming from the granite used?
No the residue is coming from the bins, take a look at the bins that have been there the longest, the ones closest to Patrick’s bridge. Wait till we go through a winter. I’m sure you remember the older bins; they were large capacity pebble dashed affairs and inside was a removable metal bin. Why not revert to that, and encase the metal bin with the type of granite used in the street renewal. The bins in use at the moment are completely inadequate and very poorly designed.
Well bins aside – the street looks incalcuably better. I actually feel proud strolling down the street in comparison to a few years ago. Grand Parade and Oliver Plunkett Street should follow suit.
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-> The redevelopment of the notorious Blackpool flats by Murnane & O’Shea is taking on a remarkable shape alongside the Blackpool By-Pass, the development is striking in its scale (with 2 cranes [1 tower] on-site) and style. Across the road, construction of the new Glen Hall Luxury Apt Complex by John Paul Construction is at an advanced stage and already looks of a very high standard.
-> Coleman Bros. Developments have erected crane over their new duplex development on the Commons Road – the project has taken a chunk out of the hillside and the development is flying up fast.
-> Frank Sheehan’s office building between the Blackpool By-Pass and Assumption Road, designed by Jack Coughlan and Assoc. is taking up shape in an eye-catching form. 2 PJ Hegarty tower cranes gape over the circular shaped, red-brick office development.
-> Also, PJ Hegarty Construction have erected another crane over the new 100m-euro Blackpool Retail Park and Multiplex development adjacent to the Blackpool SC (both developed by Blackpool Developments Ltd [Shipton Group owned by Clayton Love]) The developers were just this week granted permission to add an additional level to the multi-storey car-park to the rear of the main Retail Park building – but refused 2 amendments to warehousing units A and B.
-> Still on the PJ Hegarty line – they are the main contractors behind the redevelopment of the AIB at 11 Patrick Street. I was surprised today when I saw the extent of the redevlopment – I had been unaware at how large scale it is. The entire AIB building except the facade has been demolished, along with adjoining buildings and properties bought up by AIB as part of the redevelopment. The branch is one of the banking groups most profitable and is in line to have the entire premises on Patrick Street the whole back to the new Penneys extension and across to Wintrhop Street redeveloped in a project estimated at 7m euros.
_______________________________________________-> Frinailla Developments have erected a huge banner across the facade of the old Grand Parade Hotel announcing the real estate launch of the new Grand Parade Plaza apartment and retail centre. The rear grounds of the hotel and former nightclub have been completely demolished – Rainey Architects of Kinsale are responsible for design of the 30m euro, 7-storey project to include 50 apartments and a higher-order retail centre. John Paul Construction are the main contractors.
-> Corbett Bros. Developments have been GRANTED permission for their office/residential/commercial development at Parnell Place. Originally a 5-storey over basement car-park development – a CCC condition for planning requires a reduction in one floor of apartments, reducing the original # of 18 to 15. The original facades on Parnell Place are to be refurbished and incorporated into the new development.
-> Also, Corbett Bros. project at Copley Street is making rapid headway. Their new office/apartment and leisure building, 2 linked 5-storey blocks, is being constructed by Coffey Construction. Major drilling and excavation has commenced to cater for the 90-car space underground parking facility with lightning speed.
-> Cumnor Construction’s 7-storey apt. building was due to be decided upon yesterday, but CCC has requested Further Info. Personally, I think Cumnor has made rapid growth of late – from small residential projects, the Blarney based company is now taking on huge developments such as that at Knapps Sq. for Hanranka Ltd. – but I think their energies would be better focused in a location more within the city centre than in Sundays Well. A 7-storey apt building there just doesn’t seem right. And I love large scale development – but even my developers conscience (and we do actually have them) is all Jimny Crickett on this one.
a 7 storey development in Sundays Well is criminal. This is one of the nicest areas of Cork City and should be preserved in its present shape. Road access is a nightmare at present, and this will make it worse.
Yep – here is a CG picture of the soon to be refurbished Cork Bus Station. After months and years of negotiation, the build-up, the excitement, the possibilities – sigh…how very CIE.
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As announced today in the Sunday Business Post (11/7/2004) – Hilton Hotels have signed on to operate the new 150-bedroom hotel at Mahon Point. The O’Callaghan Properties/McCarthy Developments project consists of a massive shopping centre (of which Debenhams, Tesco and Next are the main anchor tenants) which includes an 11-screen multiplex, a retail park (anchored by B&Q and Johnson & Perrott), convention centre, offices and publishing centre owned by Thomas Crosbie Holdings (leasing to Webprint Concepts).
The Cork Hilton is the latest in a number of hotels under construction and/or operated by major international hotel chains in Cork city – others incl. Radisson SAS at Eastgate on Little Island, the Clarion on Lapps Quay and (rumour has it) Marriott at Ballincollig Town Centre.
Can someone possibly give me an update on how things are going with the Patrick Street redevelopment.. I am assuming work is near completion at this stage????
Patrick’s Street is almost complete – bar a small section between River Island and 26 Patrick’s Street (AIB Redevelopment). This is scheduled to be complete by late next week.
Meanwhile work on Oliver Plunkett Street is at an advanced stage (despite some whiney traders) – and work has begun on Grand Parade (from Daunt Square to the Capitol Cineplex).
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There was an article in the Sunday Tribune Business section yesterday explaining the financial difficulties that Jarvis are in and they also speculated that this could have a knock-on effect on the Cork School Of Music development which Jarvis are constucting as part of the PPP agreement with the Department of Education/CIT.Anyone heard anymore on this?Do you think this will delay or even worse (shudder to think) put some serious doubts about the project?
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Although preliminnary work on the Cork School of Music has begun – the demolition of the existing building and construction of the new college building (which incorporates space provided by clearance of old building and adjacent car-parking area) has yet to go ahead. Jarvis Plc (who’s 1st PPP project outside the UK is the CSM) have stressed that the Cork project will be unaffected by its recent fiscal problems. CEO, Michael Hyde has pointed out that Jarvis is actively pursuing all its outstanding dues and has begun selling off certain assets it no longer views as core to its operations.
“This is an extremely challenging time for the group and we are taking the necessary decisions and implementing them. We are collecting outstanding payments and have more to do. We are also taking very significant overhead cost out of the business. Considerable progress has been made, and further action is planned to ensure a leaner, sustainable core business for the future,†said Michael Hyde (02/07/2004)
Hopefully these assurances will stand – but as Frinailla Developments learned with their An Caislean development in Ballincollig, despite the strongest assurances of the contractors, sometimes financal circumstances over-rule the strongest of commitments. Though Jarvis is in a seriously tricky corner – I think the CSM should be unaffected. I’ll keep an eye on this one – and let you know if the situation alters. Fingers crossed!
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Yep – here is a CG picture of the soon to be refurbished Cork Bus Station. After months and years of negotiation, the build-up, the excitement, the possibilities – sigh…how very CIE.
This is a disgrace.
A superb large city centre property with river frontage and this is what cie do to it… this is disgusting. No wonder this company are in financial dire straits. Off the cuff how much could they have realised by redeveloping this site with a private developer (for example O’Callaghans who could’ve connected the site to Merchants quay).Why do the local politicians just accept this crap from a semi-state? Why such slow progress on Horgan’s quay, where are the elected representatives???
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