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    • #707267
      Sean Carney
      Participant

      As you drive on the main single carraigeway routes around Ireland one thing strikes me, people taking walks along the hard shoulder?
      Are they suicidal, lack common sense or just plain stupid.
      You have traffic of all kinds from motorbikes to artics going at 60, 70, even 80 mph.
      They are walking along side crash barriers which are there to prevent a vehicle from going off the road, thus there is obiviously a high chance that a car may leave the road cross the hard shoulder and enter the ditch or hit one of these crash barriers.
      I have seen so many times, mothers with buggies, taking there child for a walk along the hard shoulder, what????
      Also young children cycling and people stood there thumbing.
      Anyone who uses these roads and anyone with an ounce of common sense would know how extremely dangerous this is, all it takes is for a car to swerve or skid and these people would be killed otright.
      To me they are taking a very, very dangerous risk, but they don’t seem to realise it, I can’t understand it.
      I believe it should be made illegal to walk along the hard shoulder of any national route, would you do it on a motorway/dual carraigeway, no, but these stupid people probably would.
      Since coming back to Ireland the one thing I notice in Castlebar is peoples total disregard to cars etc. They just walk out in front of you and expect you to stop, they seem to think that cars won’t hurt them. It is terrible for that here.
      Would I be allowed to drive on a pavement and expect people to step out onto the road to let me pass, no off course not.
      Streets and roads are for cars, pavements are for people, look when you go to cross a road and wait if there is a car coming and cross when it is clear.
      Also if a car does come have the courtesy to move your legs a bit, not just stroll casually along while I have to wait five minutes for you too cross.

      FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR IRELAND NOW

    • #745295
      d_d_dallas
      Participant

      That in practice would make sense if people did not actually live along our National Routes… but due to our penchant for ribbon development…
      You can hardly make it illegal for someone to walk outside their house.

    • #745296
      davematt
      Participant

      Call Liveline / Joe Duffy!

      ” Talk to Joe “

    • #745297
      JL
      Participant

      Sean, you appear to have a serious dose of returnee rage (not to mention any virtual doses picked up from the homepage listed on your profile).

      What would a federal government in Ireland be anyway? And what has any of it particularly to do with architecture?

    • #745298
      Sean Carney
      Participant

      Well Jil my friend, I could also say what has the luas got to do with architecture, mmm!
      Also Fedralism would benefit everywhere in Ireland including Dublin.

      FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR IRELAND NOW

    • #745299
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Originally posted by JL
      (not to mention any virtual doses picked up from the homepage listed on your profile).

      Well spotted

    • #745300
      mickeydocs
      Participant

      Sean, are you quite aware of what federalism means?
      Are you aware that a fenderal state is a combination of states that have previously been independent. Which states should join this federation.

      Do you mean increasing the power of local government. If so would you be looking to aggregate counties or use the provincial system.

      Federal government equates to extended bureaucracy, and the last thing we should be doing is to increase the number of bureaucrats. Abolishing the Seanad would be a good start imo.

      Originally posted by Sean Carney
      Well Jil my friend, I could also say what has the luas got to do with architecture, mmm!
      Also Fedralism would benefit everywhere in Ireland including Dublin.

      FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR IRELAND NOW

    • #745301
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      absolutely… look at canada… there is around seven levels of government… from local level to federal government… unwieldy imo

    • #745302
      Mob79
      Participant

      How very corbusian, have the people banished from the street, i like to see people out walking, and why do people thinks it’s so eccentric to walk a mile or two, it especially confounds me when the elderly gasp at walking this distance,… they grew up without cars!
      With regards to walking infront of cars, why should 20-30 people wait on,..oh lets say the corner of stephens green, as 1 person passes by in a metal box. All hail the metal box.

    • #745303
      mickeydocs
      Participant

      Class. The real problem is too many cars tearing through rural areas reducing the quality (and longevity) of people’s lives. The car like the economy are meant to serve man, in Ireland it seems we exist to serve cars and the economy.

      Originally posted by Mob79
      How very corbusian, have the people banished from the street, i like to see people out walking, and why do people thinks it’s so eccentric to walk a mile or two, it especially confounds me when the elderly gasp at walking this distance,… they grew up without cars!
      With regards to walking infront of cars, why should 20-30 people wait on,..oh lets say the corner of stephens green, as 1 person passes by in a metal box. All hail the metal box.

    • #745304
      dowlingm
      Participant

      Paul C – Canada governance: fed, prov, reg (sometimes), municipal – they’re the only 4 I can think of. It makes funding a nightmare but it does bridge certain projects which are too small for national and too big for municipal. Plus there’s the Quebec issue. Perhaps Ireland will get regional govt if it’s ever united to keep our own version of Quebec (NI) happy.

      Better that then Ireland’s 1 real level of govt – national – and the joke that is local govt in terms of powers (and use of little they have by jackeens)

    • #745305
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Interesting piece by David McWilliams in the Sunday BP a couple of weeks back on applying the rules of the property market to that of road users – that people should pay for consuming what is a limited resource at peak times, i.e roadspace – also higlighting that the taxes of people who use public transport are ploughed into roads for private transport etc.

    • #745306
      FIN
      Participant

      i want to see if anyone can explain to me the reasoning behind this.
      in galway county, specifically the town of loughrea. they have proposed a by-pass which they cpo’d last year or so…it’s starting on site soon seemingly. now normally this would make perfect sense cos it is a bottleneck. but now(well last week really) the have cpo’d the national primary route from ballinasloe to galway with a nice shiny dual carriageway which completely misses out loughrea. i don’t see the sense in wasting the money on the by-pass as really only locals will be using the old route now anyway so it won’t be a bottleneck anymore.
      how can we waste millions like this? do the decision makers not talk to each other? how can such governmental department make such a fuck up in the distribution of donations from our eu partners.

    • #745307
      Sean Carney
      Participant

      FIN, in reply to your comment on the Loughrea bypass, I have been thinking just the same thing for quite a while and I totally agree with you, but I have come to my own conclusion as to why it is being built.
      First of all the proposed dual carraigeway/motorway can only be built once the proposed Galway City outer bypass is completed as the new motorway will not join onto the Oranmore dual carraigeway, it will be attached to the outer bypass futher north of the city.
      Secondly the motorway is being built from Dublin outwords thus they are just reaching Kinnegad. They will then build from Kinnegad to Athlone, Athlone to Ballinsloe and then Ballinasloe to Galway City.
      As it takes a ridiculous 4 years to build a stretch of motorway, (which could be build in half the time if they pulled there finger out), the time it reaches Galway could be 10 years from now!
      So in one way it makes sense for the Loughrea bypass to be built as the motorway is a long way from being finished.
      Also to be realistic if it was to be done properly the Galway City to Tuam dual carraigeway, (proposed), would also have to be built as it also will join onto the Galway city outer bypass.
      It would of made more sense to have put the money towards the City outer bypass but eh people in authority seem to have to be thick to get the job in the first place.
      Also to me, this just again shows the utter contempt so called Irish governments have towards the West of Ireland, Galway, Roscommon and Mayo definately.
      When is the last time you heard of a national road being built in Galway County/City?, it is one of the fastest growing cities in Europe, strange mmmm.
      Cork, Limerick, Waterford, Dublin, Sligo etc all have bypasses, or are constructing bypasses but one is only just proposed for Galway City.
      Also dual carraigeways are proposed for Tuam, (bypass), Tuam to Galway City and Galway City to Gort but they have never been built and don,t look like there going to be built for a long, long time.
      I could be totally wrong about this but from studying this is the conclusion I personnaly have come up with.
      I have either added 1 and 1 and come up with two or added one and one and come up with seven, we will have to wait and see, a long wait I think 🙂

    • #745308
      FIN
      Participant

      check out the galway county council’s website. they have the proposed route for the two roads. the gal-dub will feed into the outer by-pass but goes in further to the existing one. it joins the existing one beside the new galway clinic that’s is just built. between that and the roundabout to the racecourse. so it doesn’t need the outer by pass but would be a help. they have started the cpo’s so it should only be a year or so before it starts.the loughrea one is supposed to be starting this september. this however i have come to the conclusion is a throwback from other days. it was first proposed more than 20 years ago and the town rejected it. since then of course traffic has gotten worse and those small minded gobshites have since changed their minds and have been shouting about one for ages. when a lot of people shout politicians tend to listen so action was started and they are now getting one which will completely crap on their town once the dual carrigeway is built. fate is cruel…ha,ha… i think the tuam one will be waiting until the outer by-pass is built. there is of course a lot of upset people regarding the proposed route of the o.bypass. as there will always be. i guess the road system is like cie…we are getting there.

    • #745309
      Sean Carney
      Participant

      FIN, maybe you can explain something to me. On the NRA website under “Major National Road Schemes in Planning”, it lists the roads planned to be constructed. On the left heading it shows “Route” and underneath it has “(N/M)” followed by numbers from 2 upwards, what does this mean. Also it states two road types, Standard two lane and Wide two lane. I thought there was just one type of two lane, you know, one lane each way with a hard shoulder each side?
      Can you explain.
      Also they seem to have down graded the Tuam bypass from dual carraigeway to two lane only.

    • #745310
      FIN
      Participant

      i can only presume but the n/m and the associated numbers i think mean which raod they are on…ie the n6..gal-dub road.
      as regards the road width’s..i don’t rightly know. seems a bit strange to me. we have a roads engineer here so will ask 4 u. will get back to u after lunch on that.
      it should be a dual to sligo from gal so i think downgrading it is a waste. but if only i made the desicions. things would be a lot better.
      vote me for dictator….

    • #745311
      Sean Carney
      Participant

      Well Fin if you want to be dictator you’re going to have to fight me for the right. That’s what this country could really do with, a “Good” dictator. I think we will have to meet for a dual to the right, let’s say noon in Eyre Square, if it’s finished:)
      Or we could possibly get together and start a new party, would be the more logical approach.

    • #745312
      FIN
      Participant

      ha,ha.. a culchie revolt…i like it… will have to wait 18 months for eyre square to finish.

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