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October 1, 2006 at 2:43 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768686FeargParticipant
Interesting – I think at first the old high altar and tablernacle remained in place, under the baldichino, with the cathedra against a pillar to the left. I will see if I can find a picture of that.
October 1, 2006 at 1:51 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768681FeargParticipantand the architect responsible for Cahal Daly’s intervention was a Laurence McConville (I guess from Rooney and McConville) under the direction of Ray Carroll.
October 1, 2006 at 1:30 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768679FeargParticipantAs always, for the purposes of comparison – here is St Peter’s as it was in the early 1900’s
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October 1, 2006 at 1:14 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768677FeargParticipantI think the architect for St Peter’s cathedral was Richard Pierce of Enniskillen. The floor tiles are by Armatile (who also did Armagh). The 2 small chairs on either side of the cathedra are apparently “thrones for the Auxilliary bishops”, somehow, I don’t think they are normally provided.
September 29, 2006 at 8:57 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768657FeargParticipantTabernacle in Armagh ended up in the south transept. I think I posted a photo of it earlier in the thread.
September 28, 2006 at 7:38 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768650FeargParticipantAnd a similar hypothetical question for Brian Quinn – if the 1904 sanctuary had still been intact in 2002, how would you have proceeded? (Assuming the client gave you complete freedom!).
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Fearg.September 13, 2006 at 12:54 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768555FeargParticipantOn the subject of Monaghan, has anyone been able to dig out images of the interior prior to the current arrangements? Thanks!
September 13, 2006 at 12:36 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768553FeargParticipantAnd here is a (poor) shot of the magnificent organ – which was being played when the photo was taken (don’t worry, the protrusion from the gallery was temporary and has since been removed)
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September 13, 2006 at 12:31 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768552FeargParticipantDETAILS OF THE CEILINGS
Moving from the sanctuary towards the organ gallery on the South side:
1 The apparition of the Angel to St Patrick.
2 St Martin of Tours gives St Patrick the religious habit.
3 St Patrick receives the mission from Pope Celestine.
4 His dispute with the Druids.
5 The vocation of St Benignus.
6 St Benignus recalling to life the daughter of King Daire.
7 St Brigid blessing her monastery at Kildare.
8 St Brigid giving sight to sister Dara.
9 St Columcille receiving the cranes from Ireland.
10 Prophecy of St Columcille to Eman.
11 St Columbanus founding his monastery at Bobbio.
12 St Ita and her companions guided by an angel.On the North side, beginning at the organ gallery:
1 Death of St Dympna.
2 St Brendan sails on his voyage
3 St Aidan blessing the hands of Gobban.
4 St Colman teaching at Lismore.
5 St Adamnan writing the life of St Columcille.
6 The Pope blessing St Alban and his brothers.
7 St Virgil founding the cathedral at Salzburg.
8 St Celsus dying, sends his crozier to St ~Malachy.
9 St Malachy chosen as Primate of Armagh.
10 St Malachy helping the plague victims at Armagh.
11 Gelasius consecrates St Laurence O’Toole.
12 St Laurence O’Toole before Henry II of England.September 13, 2006 at 12:00 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768550FeargParticipantAhem, here is some more photography, some of it not the best, but a few images not seen on the net before..
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September 12, 2006 at 12:37 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768544FeargParticipantArmagh Ceiling:
Here is a close up – I think the repetitive patterns are stencil work – all executed in oils – but does anyone know if these were painted directly onto the plaster, or are they canvas?
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September 10, 2006 at 7:09 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768535FeargParticipantSeems that it went in 1904, also, the mural/mosaic at the east end of the nave must also have been replaced at that time:
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September 10, 2006 at 6:54 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768532FeargParticipantThe second link looks to be even earlier, notice that the stained glass is not yet installed in the east window and the niches in the reredos are empty.
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September 10, 2006 at 3:50 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768529FeargParticipantArmagh Cathedral Prior to 1904: Strangely similar to what someone suggested could have been achieved in the most recent reordering!
http://www.geh.org/ar/strip62/m198715950018.jpg
http://www.geh.org/ar/strip60/m198705340472.jpgKillarney:
http://www.geh.org/ar/strip62/m198715950137.jpgKilkenny:
http://www.geh.org/ar/strip62/m198715950169.jpg
http://www.geh.org/ar/strip62/m198715950170.jpgSeptember 10, 2006 at 3:14 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768528FeargParticipantSeptember 7, 2006 at 7:38 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768510FeargParticipantWhere is the first one?
September 6, 2006 at 1:10 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768506FeargParticipantHe did indeed – the architect was none other than Liam McCormack
Ironically, the slate roof is now in need of replacement 😉
September 5, 2006 at 11:28 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768504FeargParticipant@brianq wrote:
hi Prax,
Pietro de Gasparri is so pre vatican 2.
BQ
Brian,
I’d be interested to know what was the thinking behind such a radical reorganisation in Drumaroad? (I’m assuming the altar was originally located at the gable end). For example, Steelstown church in Derry is very much post Vatican II, but still hints at the division into Nave and Sanctuary, respecting tradition in a modern context possibly..[ATTACH]2868[/ATTACH]
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Fearg.September 5, 2006 at 11:13 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768502FeargParticipantI think the original sanctuary in Armagh was located in the chancel. If you look very carefully at the central niche, you can still see where the tabernacle once was. The scale of the reredos also suggests that it was designed to dominate the cathedral, not just the 1904 lady chapel.
September 4, 2006 at 8:16 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #768491FeargParticipantSome (not very good pictures) taken yesterday in Derry
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