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@Rory W wrote:
Ok well you could run it up the central margin of the M1 all the way to the airport, but you are talking about reducing the port tunnel down to one lane each way which is a daft idea
It becomes a lot less daft if the port’s moved elsewhere as the HGV traffic would be eliminated. Moving the port up the coast has been on the cards for some time.
@PTB wrote:
Do you have any Idea how long it would take to get to the city centre from Swords? The journey would turn most people off public transport for good.
I’d reckon it would only take about 20 to 30 minutes.
The tram would run from Connolly through the IFSC/Docklands, onwards to the tunnel and would be at the end of the M1 in about 5 to 6 minutes. It wouldn’t be that difficult to find surface routes for the Luas along the M1 as far as the airport and then cut cross country to Swords.
It’s a pity they couldn’t have planned Luas lanes into a slightly wider Dublin Port Tunnel.
It’d have been possible to run Luas trams from the docklands to the Airport and Swords via the tunnelI wonder, if it would be possible to do something to get public transport into the tunnel at this stage?
Even a rapid dedicated bus fleet that fed the airport + Swords could operate via the tunnel and dedicated lanes on the M1 hard shoulders. Drumcondra and the inner northern suburbs have a pretty decent bus network as it is.
If Dublin port is ultimately moved, it’s possible that the tunnel could be re-configured internally to take a luas line.
E.g. you could have a Luas tram running on what is now the fast lane, leaving a single lane + hardshoulder for traffic.
Obviously, strict speed limits for traffic would have to be applied and there’d be no overtaking, but it would be a small price to pay if it meant high capacity trams were running through it.Even in its current state, I think this could be done. The tunnel’s not exactly over-run with traffic other than heavy goods, which could move in an orderly fashion along a single lane, with the safety of the hard shoulder in the event of emergencies.
With good design and proper traffic management, i’m sure it could be achieved.
Although, on second thoughts, Irish Local Authorities and traffic management are an oxymoron.
@CologneMike wrote:
doc08, what will become of the building on George’s Quay?
I see Thompson’s Architects are behind the work in Clare Street.
It appears the college had tentative plans to redevelop Georges Quay as retail village with residential and exhibition spaces for artists but I havent seen or heard of any concrete plans for this in recent times, I imagine its more likely that they’ll sell the site.
@NevilleNeville wrote:
Some short term active use in front of the buildings may be an alternative or a s someone suggested previously letting out some of the builidngs to start up businesses at least while the Planning Permission and An Bord Pleanala processes are being waited on.
This idea has been ruled out because it would have raised security and planning issues for the project. Having tenants installed in the premises could effect start-dates etc.
Speaking of Limerick School of Art & Design, Here are some photos of the work going on there at the moment. The Sculpture and Fashion Departments will be vacating Georges Quay in September and moving to the Clare St, meaning all LSAD’s departments will be located on one campus.
Did the Health and Safety Authority submission point to a contaminated
The Seveso issue has nothing to do with contamination. And you is going off half cocked – many people on this board will know that there are a number of issues in play that have to be addressed before major developments can commence in the Docklands – and that these are mainly outside the gift of the City Council. And if I’m aware of this, as a complete outsider with no professional involvement in the sector, then might I humbly suggest that you should too, before blaming the City Council?
If you’re going to complain about the CC on anything, I’d focus on the dirty big swath of asphalt laid on Patricks Street.
A yellow notice simply means that there has been a valid application submitted for that site within tha last six months if I recall correctly. Could be something as small as a shop sign.
@Peter FitzPatrick wrote:
Just on that point, I think O’Connell Street could cope with an opening, once its not on the scale of a crater, but between this proposal & the arnotts effort, the integrity & form of Henry Street really would be at risk. Feed in to Moore St. if you want to but no more messing around with Henry ! and none of your half assed set backs either.
I think the cartier foundation in Paris is a very good example of how this new artery leading off O Connell street should be addressed in this development.
Kudos for the pics.
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Honestly, why do developers bother spending all this money on something that clearly has little chance of getting planning in its current form? Are they being ill advised by their architects, or are they simply ignoring the architects advise and ordering that the application goes ahead anyway, Mugabe style.
IMO, there should not be a new street slashed from O Connell Street at all. They should at least have proposed a sheer glass facade to maintain O Connel Streets integrity and form.
The plans as outlined on the news programe appear to portray a tacky development that would ruin the facade of O’Connell st and replace a ruin with a wreck more suited towards a shopping centre in Lucan or Portlaoise, not as the main thoroughfare of the capital.
Like anyone, I find it quite vexing that there are so many empty and often ugly 1970s monstrosities on the street when there could be tasteful powerscourt type shopping centres or boutique hotels but I would certainly hope that the planning authorities would refuse such an poor quality proposal.
I think this square will age badly. A shame really, because the three most prominent elements of it (the hotel, the theatre and the squares landscaping) could work really well as individual projects but here they are like the Irish rugby team – a load of individually good bits that dont work very well when brought together.
It reminds me of an argos christmas tree – a pile of glittery bling.
I can see the liebeskind theatre being botched aswell. The facade of the holel looks like its made of plastic from the photos.
ha ha yiz are like a bunch of old paddy’s slagging anything new.
He’s mostly right – the whole sandymount area is a tedious tawdry shrine to dull 2nd rate curtain twitching suburbia.Cathal Dunne wrote::confused: Is there an extra-long month ahead that we haven’t been informed about?Maybe there are fewer hours in a Cork day. That would balance thungs out…
The bulk of the surrounding buildings also means the tower barely manages to poke its head out in many of the images shown
God, this is hideous. Simultaneously too tall for its surroundings and not tall enough for its girth; drab and bland from a distance, yet horribly cluttered-looking up close. Now I know why those people in the posters were holding their hands to their mouths…
Sorry, that’s what I meant. Are the kiosks being removed, or is it a guess because they’ve been railed off?
