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    notjim
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    so according to todays times there is going to be a leibskind designed auditorium on the docks, by the hyatt on grand canal square, it is described as wedge shaped, but there was no picture. it did have a picture of the hyatt.

    #743138
    Anonymous
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    I am alien here, and I don’t know much about leibskind. Who can give me some information of him and his work?
    pretty thanks! :>

    #743139
    notjim
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    he designed the holocaust museum in berlin and, most famously, won the competition to design the replacement for the twin towers in nyc. he is now active all over, in particular he has a dramaric new extension being built for the ROM in toronto.

    he previously designed a building for ireland, a ship-like mixed-use building for carlise peir in dun laoighre, but lost the competition for this commission. this time he was more successful. the developer each time is the same.

    #743140
    Paul Clerkin
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    I quite like the Manuel Aires Mateus hotel….
    http://www.irish-architecture.com/news/2004/000114.html

    #743141
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Originally posted by valentina wong
    I am alien here, and I don’t know much about leibskind. Who can give me some information of him and his work?
    pretty thanks! :>

    You’ll get a fair amount here
    https://archiseek.com/search/search.php?template_demo=&site=&path=&result_page=search.php&query_string=libeskind

    #743142
    Irishtown
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    Originally posted by Paul Clerkin
    I quite like the Manuel Aires Mateus hotel….
    http://www.irish-architecture.com/news/2004/000109.html

    I like it too. It’s hard to imagine seeing that in reality cos its like something I’ve only seen in renderings. But I think it will look great though.

    #743143
    ro_G
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    whats the idea behind the cave-like entrances. They really upset the form for me.

    #743144
    Anonymous
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    Oh, ic! Thanks for a brief introduction. I suppose I’ve seen the layout of the ship-like building here. It had been discussed early this year, right?

    #743145
    CM00
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    It looks to me like one of those Eileen Gray Lacquer screens, blown out of all proportion. I can’t decide whether I like it or not.
    Is that a stone facade? as long as it’s not pre cast concrete…
    That could end up looking very old very soon.

    Let’s hope its not being different just for the sake of it.

    #743146
    GregF
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    …….it kinda looks ugly, does n’t it.

    #743147
    Anonymous
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    For some reason it reminds me of some of those models of buildings in the Architectural Archive on Merrion Square (the ones that were often never built). That is not to say I don’t like it though. It has that sort of ‘futurist’ appearance or something to that effect. I think I would like to see more pictures in order to make up my mind fully.

    #743148
    Andrew Duffy
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    #743149
    adhoc
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    Bigger renderings available here..

    http://www.grandcanalsquare.net

    #743150
    Anonymous
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    Thanks for those. The image in the Irish Times was one of the other buildings on the Square then was it?

    #743151
    Andrew Duffy
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    The image in the Irish Times was of the Park Hyatt Hotel.

    #743152
    MG
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    This Libeskind style is starting to look tired and empty of any meaning.

    In Berlin’s Jewish Museum, I could see the violence of the building as a reflection of the violence inflincted by the Nazi regime on the Jewish people.

    http://germany.archiseek.com/brandenburg/berlin/jewish_museum.html

    In Toronto, its just a design to catch the eye and make a bold statement – “Danny, will we put a slash here or here…”

    http://canada.archiseek.com/unbuilt/ontario/toronto/rom_extension/index.html

    Now in Dublin, he has proposed a ship version for Dun Laoghaire, and this which looks like something from the Borg in Star Trek.

    http://www.irish-architecture.com/news/2004/000114.html

    So whats the meaning Danny? Mr Libeskind said his futuristic wedge-shaped building would show how architecture could act as a magnet for the public. It would not be a stand-alone building, but would be integrated into an urban space with as much going on outside as within.

    So it has no meaning – just your signature style now so…..

    Danny boy, you have completely debased the Berlin Jewish Museum for me. The exterior of the Dublin concert hall looks like one of the corners of the Berlin Jewish Museum turned 90 degrees.

    #743153
    asdasd
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    Does it? I don’t see it myself, and in anycase turning a building which doesn’t exist in Dublin yet 90 degrees seems fairly spectacular to me.

    Is this local sour grapes? I don’t know, but I know what I like and I like this – as an non-architect and a non-expert, of course. Seems marvelous to me.

    Best new building suggested for Dublin in my lifetime ( 30 years).

    #743154
    Anonymous
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    I can’t see either design doing any harm, while they may not be to everyones personal taste they are sufficiently different to anything built before on a largescale.

    Maybe when a few of these buildings are errected people will complain at some of the dross labelled ‘exciting and progressive’

    #743155
    redeoin
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    remember the U2 tower will be on the corner only a hundred yards away – so that area should be architecturally interesting to say the least…

    #743156
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I think that these projects will be finished long before the U2 Tower. Sexy photoshop aside, it will be impossible to judge these buildings with out seeing plans and internals….

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