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    • #708687
      magicbastarder
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      does anyone know much about this place?
      i was there on monday last, and managed to get in – all i really garnered from local knowledge is that it was occupied till the seventies, and featured impressive gardens. the house is as intact as you might expect – some fire damage inside, which has gone through some floors, and the roof has come in in one section, with the expected damage beneath. but it’s still in relatively good nick, considering.
      it’s a photographer’s wet dream, though – all i had was one roll of 120 left, however.


      should give an idea of the scale of the place – the worker’s living quarters out the back are like a small village.

      i have found these links, not a huge amount of help:

      http://homepage.eircom.net/~williamfinnerty/wh/index.html
      http://www.grantonline.com/grant-family-genealogy/Records/woodlawn.htm

    • #778099
      Praxiteles
      Participant

      At Kilconnell, Co. Galway, a refaced three story house enlarged in the 1860/70 by J.F. Kempster of Ballinasloe. Originally built for Lord Ashdown and sold to the Le Poer Trenches c. 1950. The house was re sold in 1974.

    • #778100
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Lovely staircase!

    • #778101
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      I cannot help feeling that there was a mention of that place before on here, but I cannot find it.

    • #778102
      magicbastarder
      Participant

      i was raging that i didn’t have more film, and a tripod.

    • #778103
      Anonymous
      Participant

      There was nearly a deal done on Woodlawn 5 years ago; it is still available at a reduced price should anyone wish to restore it and the accompanying parkland. Country Club uses will not be considered.

    • #778104
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      They are very nice images. They really convey a feeling of the present condition of the house.

    • #778105
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Agreed, phil. I don’t know what you’re complaining about, magicbastarder.:)
      And I particularly like those cast iron cornucopia features on the bases of the bannisters, affixed to the stair ends- most unusual.

      For more info, there was a survey done of Co Galway by the NIAH in 1999 or so, but I just checked the website (http://www.buildingsofireland.ie) and it seems not to have been published yet, at least online. There might be a paper version of it lying around in the NIAH offices, but they might be reluctant to admit this to the public owing to the time elapsed since the survey was done.

    • #778106
      magicbastarder
      Participant

      @Thomond Park wrote:

      it is still available at a reduced price

      how much is a ‘reduced price’?

    • #778107
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Send me a PM and I will forward you the relevant contact details of the person who put the aborted deal together the last time

    • #778108
      magicbastarder
      Participant

      cheers, but it was only idle curiosity.

    • #778109
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Now I’d love that house.

    • #778110
      GrahamH
      Participant

      What a fantastic place – lovely pictures mb.

      It is indeed available at a reduced price. I remember this being advertised in property supplements five years ago, astonished at the knock-down price it was going for. I still have the cuttings somewhere if I can find them…

      Of course were it to be restored it’d just be another pile of Victoriana – much better to leave it as a crumbling romantic pile 😉
      Not at all, but one can never help feeling that with any restoration, the mystique and faded grandeur that makes a place so worthy of restoration in the first place is paradoxically often completely wiped out upon the work getting underway.
      The inherent potential of a decrepit building can be more satisfying than its realisation.

      What a stunning staircase.

    • #778111
      magicbastarder
      Participant

      i’d just be curious at what sort of use you could put the restored house to – at a rough guess, it’s well over 30,000 square foot. it’s about twelve miles northwest of ballinasloe, and if the conditions exclude a country club, what’s left?

    • #778112
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      a house of debauchery… upmarket whorehouse for international jetsetting whitetrash

    • #778113
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I saw a file from last year for a nine bed new build half way up the side of Nephin with 21 car spaces and my first reaction was Paul’s intended use for east end lowlife.

      Should really be held in trust given its quality but in the absence of a properly funded national trust one can only hope that a philanthropic minded individual with deep pockets may be seeking a country home.

    • #778114
      magicbastarder
      Participant

      anyone got martin naughton’s phone number?

    • #778115
      GrahamH
      Participant

      *checks little black book*

      I’ve Dermot Desmond….Sir Anthony O’Reilly….Denis O’Brien is here too – just not Naughton I’m afraid 🙁
      Bah – so close.

      The ad. Not generally in the habit of hoarding things, but I still have this from The Irish Times, Thursday September 13th
      2001:

      What a bargain.

    • #778116
      magicbastarder
      Participant

      that was about 8k an acre for the land alone.

    • #778117
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @magicbastarder wrote:

      anyone got martin naughton’s phone number?

      Yes. But he’s not shopping at the moment.

      @Paul Clerkin wrote:

      a house of debauchery… upmarket whorehouse for international jetsetting whitetrash

      Well it has 26 bedrooms- one for every ****** in the Republic?

    • #778118
      alexaia
      Participant
    • #778119
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Great stuff alexaia – thanks for posting. What a place! What’s interesting about Victorian piles like this is the sheer scale of the places. Whereas Georgian mansions accommodated a small amount of large rooms, Victorian houses featured a large amount of small rooms! – in many ways the precurser of the modern-day detached house with its myriad ill-proportioned boxy rooms. Woodlawn is just unbeliveably large – as if built just for the sake of holding as many rooms as possible! It seems even the ancillary buildings far outstrip the grandeur of the house.

      The extent to which the house is mass-produced is wonderful – a monument to the pattern books and off-the-shelf products of the Victorian age. This extraordinary image says it all 🙂

      Interesting that Georgian sashes were used to the rear as late as 1885 – nice little cost-cutting measure. Plate glass may still have been quite expensive in rural/western areas. The plate sashes to the front are also quite small. I love this little addition to the rear 🙂

      What bizarre proportions to the portico columns too!

      The interior in many ways is reminiscent of the great neoclassical mansions of America from the late 19th and early 20th centuries. This hallway could be taken straight out of the house in Jumanji 🙂

      Some very strange design concepts going on there…

      Surely this would cost at least €3 million to restore?

    • #778120
      Anonymous
      Participant

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      A local grass roots project could deliver on similar scales

    • #778121
      worms
      Participant

      Hi All,

      About 3 years ago, I was involved with a venture capalist whom was in the process of purchasing Woodlawn. We where engaged to do a complete survey of the building in both photographic terms and also drawing format.
      The deal did go not go ahead for some strange reason which I wasnt privy to and the last known owner (Michael Lally – I believe) has since passed on.
      An Taisce and Galway County Council and ourselves had site visits with a view to renovating the property and grounds. I have plenty of information, drawings & photographs of the property should anyone like to have a look.

    • #778122
      tomredwest
      Participant

      can you post them up worms.

    • #778123
      jdivision
      Participant

      Doesn’t Michael Lally’s son John of Lalco fame own it now?

    • #778124
      vkid
      Participant

      edit

    • #778125
      worms
      Participant

      I will do my best. here are a few pieces for you.

    • #778126
      worms
      Participant

      Here are a few more.

    • #778127
      glazerboy
      Participant

      nice house why did it get so bad?

      is john lally michael lallys son?

    • #778128
      -Donnacha-
      Participant

      would make a fab hotel

    • #778129
      glazerboy
      Participant

      **SOLD** anyone know anything?

    • #778130
      theponylady
      Participant

      About a year ago I was in contact with Michael Lally jr, as well as Michael Lally Sr.s widow.

      They apparently had someone interested in the place, and were in negotiations, and were not willing to jeapordize those negotiations by speaking to anyone else. The sales price was NOT “bargain basement”, it was in fact 2 million more than I had been quoted several months earlier.

      I have heard the place is sold, but have not spoken directly to the Lallys to confirm that. I have been keeping an eye out for planning permission posters, but haven’t seen any yet.

      The place was lived in until the early 70s. It was sold basically as farmland, and the house was closed up, and the outbuildings, with the exceptions of the second stable block(which was used to house cattle and sheep) were left to deteriorate.

      What makes the place fabulous is not the house itself. there are loads of really nice manor houses in Ireland. Although, the house seems to be fairly unique. What makes it special is that all the outbuildings are still there. Both courtyards are there, the interiors of the stables, although completely derilect, are still there. The laundry room is still in one of the outbuildings, and all the boilers, drying racks, everything is still there. There is a large extremely modern even for these days greenhouse in the back garden. There is a beautiful brick house on the property as well. There are a huge number of original bits and pieces in all the buildings. The place had a large mill, which is still there but in worse shape than the rest of the buildings. It has an aquaduct to carry water around the property, and original gates are still on the property. It is within walking distance of the Woodlawn Train station.

      This place is desperately calling out to be restored. It was apparently one of the first buildings of it’s time to be built using steel beams. There were quite a lot of farm buildings that were not only state of the art for the times but would be considered modern now, but those were torn down, and there is a Coillte forest where they were now.

      I have a number of photos of the place, which I can email people if they are interested. I don’t have them online, so can’t post them here.

    • #778131
      AI
      Participant

      I have just thoroughly documented the interior of Woodlawn, you can find the photographs on my website:-

      http://www.AbandonedIreland.com

      Unfortunately I wasn’t able to complete photographing the grounds.

      Apparently the new Galwegian owner intends developing the site:- hotel and retirement complex?

      If anybody wants to correct or add to any of the historical information then I will update the webpage.
      There is an email address on my web site if anybody wants to get in contact.

    • #778132
      mchammer
      Participant

      Amazing photos on your website abandonedireland….
      Just to let ye know the County Council have a Google Earth file which can be downloaded from the website which contains the locations, descriptions and images of all “protected” structures in the County – you can really get a feel for how big the Trench estate was from this..

      http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/GeographicalInformation/GoogleEarth/

      It is also possible to view some photos from their records by following these links
      Woodlawn House
      http://www.galway.ie/gis/ais/photos/161/
      Trench Monument
      http://www.galway.ie/gis/ais/photos/124/

    • #778133
      Pot Noodle
      Participant

      Its a Crime

    • #778134
      Bronagh Murray
      Participant

      Any progress with renovations of Woodlawn house?

    • #778135
      Moleskine
      Participant

      Hi Worms, I’m wondering if I may get my hands on that information you have on Woodlawn House??

    • #778136
      mt_burke
      Participant

      Does anyone have a contact for anyone over Woodlawn House? Im trying to get permission to take photos for my finals at college! Its really important to me and would mean alot. Any help or suggestions would be gratefully appriciated! Mark.

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