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don’t understand why anything outside of merry olde would have royal attached to it, except perhaps as in royal pain in the ass
this is 2001? am i in the right century?
Laura Magahy take cover, now the Irish Times is after you
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2001/0604/hom20.htmFrom the London Sunday Times Irish edition some insight on activities at CSID:
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/06/03/stiireire01006.html?
so where does one go for a martini rather than a pint?
a nomination for the worst bar in Dublin is the NASDAQ bar on Wexford Street, wandered in with some American guests while waiting for a table at Il Primo, tis a truly dreadful place
the irish pub has become the equivalent export of the chinese restaurant – or cultural cartoon…there must be a factory in China that makes this crap for fitting out oirish pubs and chinese restaurants – but it is authentic shit, not fake shit
as we all know the chinese restaurant is not chinese and the oirish pub isn’t irish, it’s themed (cartoon) design…and by the way the entire world is going to be themed eventually
what the heck is authentic anyway? of its period, of its time? my favorite is the Crown in Belfast – nice scale, interesting stalls, not too big, looks to be late vicky, wait a minute it really is
oh yes, black and white are so yesterday in buildings everywhere and Ireland must keep up
black is still the right thing for serious desingers to wear, grey hair of course is an excellent accessory, silly old male designers must have slicked back gray hair in a pony tail unless they are too bald in which case they have to be very close cropped or shaved
so who won the PM job for the B-Bowl?
hear there are two serious bidders: Multiplex and Bovis Lend Lease with Ellerbe Becket and HOK Sport respectively as the main players with Dublin architects in support – anyone know who is teamed with the giants?
now then…who landed the project management assignment for Campus Ireland? Interviews were last week.
How many bidders will there be? Bouygue has dropped out (MOLA on their team). Two serious bidders? Only one? Trouble?
Belfast also has 4,000 acres of Harland and Wolf property as a potential development zone at the heart of the city. They still have some years to go on their lease, but don’t need the land.
That’s right it won’t fit around a GAA field, but it will fit in the stadium and could replace the GAA field on a temporary basis for an Olympic Games (3 weeks actual events, 2 for Olympics, 1 for Paralympics plus set up and take down)or world championships. Obviously this has to work within the GAA event schedule. Other than such major events you will never need a very large capacity athletics stadium and others around the country (including Santry)would do on a normal basis. The good thing about Croke is that the sight lines will work for athletics and not be compromised the way they were for the Foster/HOK Wembley scheme. The end result is messier than Stade de France where you can do a change over in about a week by moving the lower tier seating in or out, but it is also significantly cheaper.
Croke was designed with removeable seating in one end so a running track can be accomodated. Would Gilroy McMahon care to clarify?
The consortia have had their bid documents for a week. Now we will see if anyone wants to play with these rules.
Is is clear to everyone now that the CSID are either experiencially or logically challenged? Same old favorites running the show – and will in the Liberties too. Is Templebar such a huge success? Will it be in 10 years? Knowing what you’re doing is different than doing what Bertie tells ya.
One thing you can be certain of: the Irish politicians will do what they want. What goes on behind the scenes is the bigger part of the action – and much more interesting than what hits the papers.
During the early part of the peace process successes a few years back there was talk of an Irish Olympic training centre spanning the border. Now there is the national coaching & training centre in Cork. Why does Bertie want all of the other goodies in Dublin?
National stadium is a strange concept that exists only in a few places. Most countries don’t have national stadia, they have important stadia in population centers (markets). You have to be a fairly socialist society (the way Ireland was just a few years ago?) to think of a national stadium in the first place – like France. Centralized control and all of that. It would be reasonable to see market based stadia in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Belfast.
Besides, the Irish are such good Europeans that someday Ireland will be a state and not a State anyway right? What happens to the national stadium then? The US doesn’t have a national stadium and neither do any of the states. Markets have stadia.
Croke is designed to accommodate a running track with removeable seating in one end. The problem with Croke is planning permission limits the number of events. Also transport access is awful. It could handle all of the major events which will ever happen in Ireland…if the GAA want to change.
Then all that is needed is a good 40,000 seat football stadium for that Premier League team that the FAI won’t let into the country. This is what the Dublin market wants. This has to be in the biggest city.
The big stadium must be in Dublin, the capitol city if the IRFU will host 6 nations matches in it. Rome is not the center of rugby in Italy, but when Italian rugby wanted to build a national rugby stadium in Bologna, they were told such matches must be played in the capitol. For the stadium to be viable it should have as many events as possible – FAI, IRFU, and others. Of course it will work best for very big events and not very well for smaller crowds just like Stade de France.
The entire process of Sports Campus Ireland has not been a straightforward and logical procedure. Government want a design competition (amongst famous design stars and local design stars none of whom know the building types involved), but wants international consortia to compete to design, build, finance and operate. Word is leaked that 7 consortia are competing, but this is not really true. Since this is under EU procurement as a negotiated procedure anything goes as long as it is plausibly construable as fair. In other words, in the best Irish tradition of doing it our way, but explaining it to them as their way. No different than the architect panels – which were advertised as two panels, big and small, but named as five panels (2 big, 3 small) later changed to 3 panels (2 big, 1 small) when it was pointed out that some of the people listed for certain projects had never done anything at all that big and couldn’t now. In a small hilly country don’t go looking for a level playing field. Leave a comma or period out of your qualifications and you can be eliminated if need be. The consortia still don’t have their brief and terms of tender. No one involved seems to understand the magnitude of the projects they are putting forward.
