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high rise can’t work without proper transport infrastructure. Dublin has the demands for high rise – everything wants to be in the centre, but no transport infrastructure to support actual use of high rise. Ifrastructure is the first priority for Dublin before it becomes unlivable and turns into a classic American edge city surounding a small urban core. The historical context will always fight high rise. By the way Americans usually (varies by where you are) consider 10-15 stories mid-rise.
hear the consortia are making presentations this week – mostly about money; anyone know anything else?
beautiful images of unbuilt work are art-i-tecture, alluring as it may be for the artist it is dangerous to fall in love with because it can lead to the kind of architecture that early built Mick Graves produced where the art-i-tecture is much better than the buildings that occupants had to suffer with; in retrospect it perhaps also shows that such abilities in art-i-tecture demonstrate a talent for designing objects for the table top rather than buildings; also some of the art-i-tecture was good for visual jokes on paper, but not in the real world
that’s right, if you can’t touch it but must spend a great deal of time explaining it it is TALKITECTURE
there has always been a good deal of talkitecture, now we have blobitecture – some of which is quite good sculpture – and virtutecture which seems just a varient of talkitecture to me
personally i still like good real buildings which can be made only by people that care and use whatever tool – their hand or their mouse – they wish…real buildings also deal with weather, wear and tear, and the good ones do not fade with time
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earth to Rita…check out Bertie’s Bowl in this discussion database, also csid.ie, and visit Croke Park currenly under construction
clients like both kinds of visuals
the advantage to the freehand sketch is what it doesn’t show that the client supplies themselves – it suggests, it offers feel rather than tremendous detail
the 3D computer model can be problematic in static stills, especially early in the process where it appears that all is worked out when it is not; many computer still look dead because a lot of detail is supplied by software rather than thought
animations and fly throughs are good at defining space and experience, always impress (the way a physical 3D model is like Christmas morning), and don’t allow too much focus on detail when it is not appropriate to do so
wonders…a little information
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2001/0627/hom9.htmthe consortia bid presentations set for this week have been cancelled – one assumes that the new project manager needs to get up to speed on the project. whether presentations will happen at all is unclear, but if so not until late july
wouldn’t it be nice to get real information from csid about all of this? since public funds are involved…time to share the excitement
architectural input to the CSID DLE led project management team will be provided by KSS a london based practice with some sports background – though not really major projects – who happened to have beaten both HOK and ellerbe becket for a small stadium complex in haifa, israel earlier this year
Teahon and Magahy are in charge just like they are for all of Bertie’s big projects – although this one is getting smaller so as to not threaten Stadium Ireland
heard DLE were named yesterday as CSID’s project managers, consortia turn in submissions tomorrow 21 June and make presentations late next week
Careers have already been staked on the project for both politicians (Bertie)and others (Teahon & Magahy)- Bertie has aready damaged himself by doing things alone and in secret rather than by managing information; Teahon and Magahy seem to get plum assignments without competition which should make them more sensitive to the need for information management rather than operating completely outside the public eye. The chance to have the press as an ally has passed, the mistakes that have been made – the lack of competence shown in the initial tender package to the consortia – show the real danger of going it alone and not taking proper advice. The more secret it is the more Bertie should worry because it hasn’t been accomplished in a manner that can build support. Bertie has already been involved in this project in some respects since 1988 so he obviously won’t give up, but as one of the most astute politicians anywhere he has made mistake on mistake this time around.
for such a major project there is almost no information published – and with the public purse involved, one has to wonder if this is acceptable
no word on project managment shortlist or final selection
no word on the audit tenders
no official response to architect panel debacle
no complete listing of consortia bidding for all or part of the project, no listing of those who have dropped out
no information at all – the web site is never updated and the public is not informed
doesn’t this lack of information cause politicians more problems? open communication suggests a logical process and looks like there is nothing to hide; conversely no communication looks like secrets or incompetence
so with the statement to Europe and our own concerns about prosperity am I the only one that cares about this crazy project? which is only perhaps the best project in the world at the moment for architects – or do you disagree? heard BKD were with Bovis Lend Lease – is this true? who else? heard de blacam, bucholz, and mcgarry are with Multiplex – is this true? help me here arch friends, we need fax, or perhaps even opinion, well at least from 37 pc of you
